View Full Version : Boobs and Sales
Emily
03-02-2005, 01:18 PM
god, this is the stuff that makes me want to get them
casper_larose
03-02-2005, 06:30 PM
when you say big natural ones...what size are you talking about here?
wildlands1
03-05-2005, 10:47 AM
ok, heres my two rupees worth. i got my boobs 29 days ago and just this week returned to strippin. i was a 5'3" 95lb A cup, now im a 97lb strong B cup (240mm implants). i can already tell its gonna really help. last nite was my best nite ever and it wasnt crazy busy. ive always had that petite foreign/non american girl, innocent "new at this" attitude but now my self esteem/shyness and posture are WAY better. nobody can tell theyre fake too much and they havent even settled yet. i say if your flat like i was then go for it, just let your doc decide which size will look proportional/natural. and doesnt my hubby look proud when we go shopping and i dress minimally and guys gawk! tho, i will say itll take years to pay off the $5k plus 3weeks no profits he invested.
Melonie
03-05-2005, 11:17 AM
i will say itll take years to pay off the $5k plus 3weeks no profits he invested.
At even $100 a night additional income, you'll have them paid off in less than a year. Of course if you had gotten 'professional sized' implants (i.e. over 1000cc) then you would also have been able to write off 100% of the cost of your implants against your increased earnings too !
Violet11
03-05-2005, 08:43 PM
I personally believe it's about the whole package. Yes, women without large breasts can still make great money. Before I got my implants, I was a 34B and I always did really well. It's definitely not only about breast size. Making good money depends on how you are with the client...your attitude, confidence, and how well you know how to play the game. That being said...beauty is still a huge part of it. And yes, beauty does not depend on what size your breasts are. But, if you have all of these things, and you also have beautiful large breasts...it completes the whole package. The man has everything he could possibly want. After all, this is a visual environment, and men are visual creatures...it does matter to them. Like I said before, I always did well. But after I went from a 34B to a 34D, it has increased my earning potential. But that's also because I don't solely depend on my breasts to make me money. I have seen so many women who have actually stopped making as much money after they got implants because they no longer put forth the effort they use to. They just started depending on the fact that they have large breasts to do all their work for them. They forgot that they need to have everything. Yes, of course they will always make money...because there will always be men who will buy dances from them purely because of their breasts...but one dance, maybe two. In order for a client to stay in the back with you for extended time periods (which is where the real money lies), you will need more that just big boobs. I would say to anyone who is trying to decide whether or not to get implants that yes, they will help you make money, but don't look at it as the solution to all of your problems.
Miss Violet
SportsWriter2
03-06-2005, 05:07 AM
I am a natural 34 B. I get compliments not only on my perky natural set, but it is my NIPPLES that get them going.
If you LIKE what you've got, you can connect with confidence. I prefer a slender body type that looks best with A/B. Perky nipples turn me on more than anything else.
A good customer can help a dancer gain more confidence. I LOVE spending money on an A/B favorite during a slow shift.
One of my favorite A/B hustles is, "Do you think I should get my boobs done?" A dancer get get into my head sooo fast doing that. :)
amylynnej
03-06-2005, 11:22 AM
I think guys want a girl with a tight body. One who is in shape. They dont usually seem to care about whether boobs are real or not from what Ive seen. Ive always made more than the girls who were enhanced.
I think personality has a lot to do with it. Having a great ass, tight abs and being animated in your expressions and smile adds alot. Having natural 34B's has never been a hinderence for me. Ill put them up against any of the girls with bigger natural boobs and Ill find alot of them have them because of other issues. The ones that are enhanced tend to be a little uppity when they shouldnt be.
I prefer to remain the way god intended me to be despite what Ive done in the gym, the only id enhance myself.
trinity2005
03-06-2005, 08:45 PM
I think my breast are perfect and I would never think about getting fake breast just to make more money as a stripper. But I do understand if you want to make it a career or it will boost your self esteem.I work during the day shift and only two girls have fake breast or large ones and they dont make anymore $ than the natural girls.
I have natural firm 34c breasts and on a daily basis I get numerous compliments on how nice and natural I look, personally if I was a man fake breast or extremly large breast would be a turn off for me. But I think women who have the whold package make good money. I have nice breats , a nice firm ass and a tight stomach and I can move by body, men love it!
Trinity
exotica17
03-06-2005, 11:32 PM
when we go shopping and i dress minimally and guys gawk!
If ANY girl dresses minimally, guys will gawk. Hell, if I wear a T-shirt and jeans, guys will gawk. That's just guys.:)
Congrats on your new ones, though. I'll bet they fit you perfectly. But I think that since you are feeling more confident in your body, that's what will sell more than your newbies. Good luck!;)
Nina77
03-07-2005, 09:00 AM
I JUST got implants a week ago. I'm not sure how this is going to affect me when I go back to work cause like ALL my customers were like "NO! Don't get implants!" But it's what I've wanted for so long- this is for me! I had done well before the implants- for the type of club I work in I made pretty good money(in the top 3 almost everynight). I am hoping to make more when I go back- not cause of the tits, but just cause it'll be a better time of year and hopefully I'll feel better about myself and be more confident.
Guys like natural tits that look like implants- round perky and big. They ALL say they dont like implants, but whatever- I think it's more about the person the tits are attached to. If I have a guy say he doesn't want a dance from me cause I have fake tits- whatever.. I'll find another that likes my BIG titties!
Lurker
03-07-2005, 09:54 AM
Guys like natural tits that look like implants- round perky and big.
First time with the quote function so I hope it works...I would have said this just the opposite way--we like implants that look natural! It usually works either way, of course...
Emily
03-07-2005, 10:09 AM
I think great tits are either implants that look real or real ones that look like implants.
if people are constantly asking if your tits are real (whether they are or aren't), then you know you have nice tits!
onlythebest
03-07-2005, 11:58 AM
My BA looks natural,but everyone knows they are not because Chinese women don't come with natural DD's,LOL!!!
britneyireland
03-07-2005, 03:08 PM
I find it interesting to see how this thread has changed from "Boobs and Sales" to "what strippers think guys want"
Lets get back the original question, "Do fake boobs make a difference in sales?"
Well, isn't this question aimed towards the girls who have danced both with and without implants? With all due respect to AmyLynn, Trinity, and the other anti-implant girls who posted thoughtful comments on the subject; I must say that your comments are purely speculation rather than experience. Bottom line is, how can you say if your income would be more or less unless you've gone through the process??
Nina, DON'T WORRY! The same thing happened to me the week before my surgery. It seemed like every guy told me "I picked you because you were natural" My one regular even tried to "buy me out" of the surgery by offering me double the cost of the operation to not do it! When I went back the same guys who said "they preferred natural" still bought dances from me (just more) and that regular told me that he still liked me and I turned him into a boob guy now!
Guys know enough to not insult someone to their face (well....most of the time we hope) So they pick out a quality feature on one girl and complement her on it. When I was dancing with my natural breasts I would hear "nice legs, great ass, gorgeous hair, I don't like fake boobs....and my favorite.....wow, even your face is pretty!" But if you watch, that same guy who complemented you on your nice feature is saying something different to another girl who has a different attribute. I've heard one guy tell me he didn't like fake boobs and then 2 songs later bury himself in another girls massive implants.
Just because a customer walks into the club thinking he likes one thing, just because he tell you he likes one thing....it means NOTHING! Guys change their mind about what they like about women as often as we women change our mind about fashion trends.
AS A SALESPERSON IT'S YOUR JOB CHANGE THEIR MIND!!!!
Will implants help you do this? Maybe, maybe not.
If you feel sucessful with your sales without implants then no, maybe you don't "need" them. I was very happy with my sales in my early years of dancing from the age of 22-28. I was very anti-implant for many years and swore up and down I'd never get them. I had pretty natural breasts and the sales skills that Dancerwealth armed me with. I became very good at changing the minds of customers who thought they wanted something else, but it WAS time consuming.
Last summer, I decided to upgrade and I'm glad I did.
I've found that the implants make me more marketable to the general public. Thanks to Pammy, Jenna, Carmen and Anna, the majority (notice I did not say ALL) men walk into a topless bar thinking they want dances from the stereotype of the trim, but busty Playboy centerfold look, regardless of fake or real. The implants help me not only look bustier, but also make my waist and hips look smaller. Now I don't have to spend as much time trying to "change their mind" to make a dance sale, which makes closing a VIP sale much quicker.
Back to my bottom line.
Boobs MAY increase your dance sales on the floor by making you more marketable to a larger audience IF you are not already sucessful in this area.
However, the boobs alone don't close a VIP sale, the sales process does.
DancerWealth
03-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Back to my bottom line.
Boobs MAY increase your dance sales on the floor by making you more marketable to a larger audience IF you are not already sucessful in this area.
However, the boobs alone don't close a VIP sale, the sales process does.
Welcome to my world. :)
JadeBrooklyn
03-11-2005, 10:38 AM
um, if it makes a difference in your confidence then it makes a difference in your cash. am I trying to get them? you bet your ass. I know men like natural better, so do i, but if they look natural then thats all i can ask for. im tired of the crap. I may get them and stop dancing there after, I want it for reasons beyond finances but I think financially it will blow my mind.
junel13
03-25-2005, 10:46 PM
i dont believe size matters to most i went from a 36d to a 36dd and i cant say sales have increased . I see girls with tats totally flat banking always busy! I have a great attitude considered very attractive by most. My feeling is bigger is not always better. I had a customer that actuallly told me i was to big for him what a jerk!~ Its kinda like saying blondes make more money then brunettes not true! Oh well just my opinion ;)
tootsie
03-25-2005, 11:11 PM
NO! you really don't need big boobs to make money! trust me on this. personality conquers all.
LunaATX
04-06-2005, 03:24 PM
Although DW is correct in attitude, I've found that proportion makes a huge difference - most guys who hate fake breasts either mean that they prefer NATURAL large breasts, or that they don't like the giant, ripply, fake breasts.
I'm pretty sure that if I were to get implants to a decent size (large C or small D), on my 5'7 1/2" 130lb frame (with current measurements of 34A-30-40) and long legs, I'd make more cash because more guys would flag down my now sexy "womanly" figure, and once I sit down and use my conversation skills that would seal the deal.
The club where I work, getting to sit down is the biggest problem - after that, I can sell dances like hot cakes.
Then again, we have a club where on the weekends 75-120 women work, which is the most out of any club in Austin.
xoxo,
-Luna
ReleaseTheBats
04-06-2005, 03:54 PM
I can see both points of view working in my club. A girlfriend of mine that dances with me has doubled her money with her new ba (which is effing beautiful by the way) but our top earner is a girl who is a full a cup, small b cup at most. It really has more to do with personality, but following socially popular beauty standards might catch an eye faster.
amalia
05-18-2005, 01:29 PM
I have 34 A sized boobs.....and i mean really small ..but I am usually one of the top earners.Im a dirty hussler and good sales person...Im sure I have lost a bit because some guys wanted bigger breasts,but I have never seemed to have done bad at all at any club.I guess it depends on the guy and of course your attitude.
prairie
05-18-2005, 02:56 PM
i've got sort of retro 70's porn tits. teardrop shaped 34 d's on a smallish frame (5'9 130). some people love them, some people hate them. i don't really think there's any one particular thing that sells. in georgia (at least the club i worked at) you could have some scary tits and as long as your ass was big everything was ok.
i only worked with one girl who was augmented and she did well, but i mostly contribute it to her being a "pro" who used to feature in atlanta but then moved because of her husband's business. she didn't just stand out because of her breasts. it was her doing splits in a handstand, i think.
then again i'm not typical SC clientele. i like women, but seeing as i am a woman i probably don't share the same opinion as most guys.
buffie06
05-18-2005, 03:09 PM
I started dancing in April last year in a club where the money maxed out at like 500.00 no matter what you looked like or how your personality was, because of the lack of customers. I traveled to several other big clubs, and made more than at home, but the difference wasn't worth the travelling expenses.
I've always had nice 34c-d size breasts and I had a miscarriage that made them B cups. I got implants in December and am now a 34DD. Im 5'5 and 137lbs, curvy so they are perfect for my body.
At my regular club the money didn't go up and I thought they didn't make a difference. I started traveling more, and oh my gosh, it was crazy! My money doubled easy. I do have to have a great hustle and personlaity to get the big money customers to keep spending, and i have no problem. However, I can go all night without asking anyone if they want the dance, everyone asks me. I just go have a seat at the bar, order a wine, and 9/10 times can count on the fact that some guy will come pay for it and ask for a dance. Its my sales pitch that keeps them after the one dance, but my boobs get the first one for me, I love them!!!
Nikki300
09-04-2005, 12:57 AM
I do notice that when I'm on stage some guys don't tip until I let the girls out. Kind of funny. But, since I got my boobs for me and not the customers, I still rely on my entire body and my hustle to get the money. The boobies help sometimes but some men are a$$ men, leg men, feet men, or just like the entire female form as a whole. So I don't rely on my boobs to make me money.
chloekitten
09-04-2005, 09:10 PM
I've found that everywhere, as in OTC, ITC, on the street, anywhere, that men will go for a pretty face over a hot body. The strippers I know that make the most money have the nicest faces.
Emily
03-14-2006, 08:18 AM
So now that I have a boob job, I had to report the expected.
I've worked 2 nights since I got my BA and the first night was hard to tell. One guy exclaimed, "nice tits" in front of his friend and the friend bought him a dance. Not the effect I was hoping for, but something. I did well..walked with $550 on Friday.
Then last night a floor host came up to me while I was on stage, and said a guy wanted to go into the VIP with me. So we go back (after not that much talking) and I asked him why he picked me and if my boobs had anything to do with it. He said, "it doesn't hurt!" So I told him I just got them and he adds, "if you were wondering if they were a good investment, yes"....and we did an hour! And he was a nice guy. it was slow too, so I was happy. left with $700 on a dead Monday.
Proof what I kinda knew! :)
exotic0690
03-14-2006, 10:31 AM
All the girls with implants make the most $$$ at my club.
Emily:
When I got mine done the last time my money went up threefold. Even on dead nights I make good money. This is of course not a bragging statement, I work with other girls that make more than I do. It happens, but still, usually I walk away satisfied and with the feeling that my time at work was not wasted.
By the way your new boobies look wonderful. Congrats!
pipermarau
03-15-2006, 03:56 AM
i agree with you. girls that ungergo implants have an insecurity problem. i was blessed to have a perfect set of 34C breasts. though it seems to make an impression some days i still don't make as much money because i have other insecurities. my body is text book perfect but i still think i should get braces *which they don't even notice because i am told i have a beautiful smile* and that is just something i need to take care of myself, rather than obsess over it. i dance with one girl in particular who has a very bad boob job. they are lopsided and hard as rocks. she's overweight and even wears a girdle into work...doen't take care of her hair...but the fact that she got implants seem to make it worth her while to take her clothes off. she is rather unattractive but she makes ooodles of money every night because of what she says to the men. they all complain about her breasts yet they shell out money night after night. i believe the breasts effect the women who have them more than the men who see them.
Emily
03-15-2006, 08:39 AM
i agree with you. girls that ungergo implants have an insecurity problem. i was blessed to have a perfect set of 34C breasts. though it seems to make an impression some days i still don't make as much money because i have other insecurities. my body is text book perfect but i still think i should get braces *which they don't even notice because i am told i have a beautiful smile* and that is just something i need to take care of myself, rather than obsess over it. i dance with one girl in particular who has a very bad boob job. they are lopsided and hard as rocks. she's overweight and even wears a girdle into work...doen't take care of her hair...but the fact that she got implants seem to make it worth her while to take her clothes off. she is rather unattractive but she makes ooodles of money every night because of what she says to the men. they all complain about her breasts yet they shell out money night after night. i believe the breasts effect the women who have them more than the men who see them.
Would you say a farmer that gets a tractor so he can make more money has an insecurity problem? Also, it's great that you have perfect breasts, but I have a feeling you won't think that in 10 years.
The reality I'm finding is that they will make you money. Last night again I had a one hour VIP with a self-proclaimed breast man. It took me about ten minutes to sell it. Granted, I do have some sales skills, but I think what Britneyireland saying about it being a double-whammy is true. I feel like a book with a good story and a nice cover. :)
britneyireland
03-15-2006, 02:03 PM
Way to go Emily!!! I'm so happy for you!
Piper, who are you agreeing with?? I scrolled up and could not find any recent comment that supported your point of view. Your generalization about women who undergo cosmetic surgery is completely unfounded and based on limited personal experience. It sounds like something I would have said when I was in my late teens/early 20s. Personally, I had complete and utter self confidence in both my looks and ability prior to the augmentation. At the ripe age of 28, it was just time to undergo some "equipment maintenance" to keep the career moving onward and upward.
Again, I will re-iterate: more often than not, boobs don't close the sale for you...but they can open the door to a client that otherwise would slam it shut in your face.
Pretty_Penny
03-15-2006, 03:08 PM
I have small breasts (34 B) and I don't think it effects my money at all. Some guys like bigger boobs, some guys like smaller boobs. It's the same way some guys prefer one hair color to another, or one age to another. Not every guy is going to find you attractive, we all know that well. That's why it's a good thing that there's a variety of us. No offense to the larger breasted blonde girls in here, but I've found that when I'm working with mostly girls of the same type (like blonde with larger boobs) I tend to make more money. Don't get me wrong though, my small breasted red haired self has been passed up many times for blondes. It all evens out.
I also wanted to add (and I hope this doesn't offend anyone) that MOST men prefer a woman to be porportionate. In other words, if you do decide to get implants, don't go to far from your natural size. Skinny girls with giant fake double ds tend to look a little ridiculous IMO. It's all about what fits your body type. My smaller breasts look fine on me. I think if they were larger than a C, I would fall over.
Emily
03-15-2006, 04:03 PM
Way to go Emily!!! I'm so happy for you!
Piper, who are you agreeing with?? I scrolled up and could not find any recent comment that supported your point of view. Your generalization about women who undergo cosmetic surgery is completely unfounded and based on limited personal experience. It sounds like something I would have said when I was in my late teens/early 20s. Personally, I had complete and utter self confidence in both my looks and ability prior to the augmentation. At the ripe age of 28, it was just time to undergo some "equipment maintenance" to keep the career moving onward and upward.
Again, I will re-iterate: more often than not, boobs don't close the sale for you...but they can open the door to a client that otherwise would slam it shut in your face.
Thank you! I'm happy too. I am 28 too, so the girls were showing their age. I felt it was anti-climatic when I took off my top. I guess that is a self-esteem issue of some sort, but I don't think I would have wanted the BA if not for work. So I guess it could be better described as wanting to offer the custmers more.
And yes, I made lots of money with my other boobs....but I saw the relative ease that girls with great big boobs had, and I knew I was missing opportunities.
shakti
03-15-2006, 10:43 PM
I would think getting implants would be like the ultimate costume change. You know that feeling when you get an awesome new outfit and you actually can't wait to get to work to wear it? The feeling wears off after a month or so but at first it works really well because you feel so hot and sexy and WANT to be there showing it off. I would think the excitement of having new boobs to show off would last a few years.
The excitement that comes from that does seem to wear off because most of the dancers that first got boob jobs at my club have had them redone even bigger over time. I think their money evens out over time and they want that new boob money rush again.
New girl=$
New outfit=$
New boobs=$
New attitude=$
New even bigger boobs=$
And so on.
While I definitely appreciate the job I've never loved stripping enough to totally alter my body for it. I'm a top earner at my club with 34b's. I've never heard a negative comment from any guy about that. From dancers though, every now and again. Usually the ones pouting that they're not making any money but I am, as if it's some great injustice since they, after all, have big boobs.
I think some boob jobs look great, some don't, some real ones look great, some don't. Unless a guy has a particular fetish or distaste for a body part they can probably go either way. When he gets a dance from a girl with a boob job after he says he doesn't like fakes it's probably because he sees many more things about that dancer that he likes and isn't going to dismiss her because of one not completely ideal part. It's like when you're attracted to a guy but he has a big stomach or whatever, there's so many other things you like so who cares?
If I absolutely loved stripping, and still did so over some time, maybe I would have made that investment. I would think having a boob job would be a bit of a buffer between yourself and the guys, giving you more of a persona. I don't think most guys care about boob size, but I do think when some guys go to a strip club they are expecting to see something larger than life. The problem comes now that 75% of the dancers have BAs. They'll have to keep getting bigger to stand out. What I hate is seeing dancers that have been at it only a year getting swept up in thinking that's the whole key to their making money and go out and finance them.
Emily
03-16-2006, 12:44 AM
Shatki...the problem with your analogy of new boobs being like a new outfit is yes, you do feel great, but no guy is going to be think, "oooh, I like her new outfit....I think I want to spend more time with her." But a guy will say "wow, she has a great body and nice tits....I'd like to spend more time with her." Not all guys, but some. And really, one or two guys are not a lot, but how many times do you make all your money off one or two guys.....probably a lot. It's not really about what you think as it is what he thinks.
I don't really have a vested interest in trying to convince anyone to get a BA that doesn't want one. But it's true that boobs=money. Not when you first get them. Always. I see it over and over. It doesn't matter if all the dancers in the room have them. It's what guys like. It's why all the most popular porn stars have them. You're their fantasy girl, and fantasy girl is everything, including perfect tits.
Granted, I've been doing this a short time with my new boobs, but I've come across a few guys that like me because of my boobs and have not met a single one that didn't. Those few are paying off!
exotica17
03-16-2006, 01:34 AM
Congratulations, Emily! Thanks for reporting to us. It's great news to hear because I'm thinking of implants. My breasts are 34D in bras, pretty nice, but I want to go up maybe 1/2 cup. Keep it up!
Emily
03-16-2006, 08:01 AM
Congratulations, Emily! Thanks for reporting to us. It's great news to hear because I'm thinking of implants. My breasts are 34D in bras, pretty nice, but I want to go up maybe 1/2 cup. Keep it up!
Sure, my pleasure to report. If it were me though....I wouldn't go through all that for a half cup, but maybe wait until you start to sag....you'll probably want then then anyway to make yourself perky.
shakti
03-16-2006, 09:00 AM
Emily, I understand just what your saying. I do think the fact that making that investment means you're really into it and are more likely to WANT to be there. I've seen that newness wear off over time for many dancers that get their boobs done and I've seen them get frustrated because they believed their boob size was the be all end all ticket to making money.
Yes, boobs definitely=money, I don't dispute that. I do think that look is what many customers expect in a stripper these days, and by all means they are eye catching. I would be shocked and disappointed if I got a BA and it didn't increase sales.
But unless a guy has ONLY that specific fetish there are so many other things that men like to look at on a woman. Big boobs are not the only thing that make money, I know because I've seen the tip out sheet. I think dancers get way more caught up in worrying about boob size than many of the guys do. Too many dancers get caught up in the black and white perception that small natural breasts=flat,undesirable, fake boobs=huge, desirable. There are so many gorgeous and not so good looking variations on boob size, real or fake. And legs and ass and hair and eyes make tons of money too.
Emily
03-16-2006, 09:08 AM
Big boobs are not the only thing that make money, I know because I've seen the tip out sheet. I think dancers get way more caught up in worrying about boob size than many of the guys do. Too many dancers get caught up in the black and white perception that small natural breasts=flat,undesirable, fake boobs=huge, desirable. There are so many gorgeous and not so good looking variations on boob size, real or fake. And legs and ass and hair and eyes make tons of money too.
I know this all too well. I had no trouble making money with my flappy boobs.
This is my short list of what I think is important to make money in this business:
1. good attitude
2. sales skills
3. pretty face (this includes makeup and hair)
4. nice body (this includes tits)
5. luck/timing
I don't think any of the girls that reported making more with implants thought that all they had to do is sit there and the money would come to them...but you can't deny the power of big tits! So I agree with you that lazy dancers aren't going to see much difference, but come on...since when do lazy dancers come to Hustle Hut?
shakti
03-16-2006, 07:45 PM
So I agree with you that lazy dancers aren't going to see much difference, but come on...since when do lazy dancers come to Hustle Hut?
So true! I was indeed picturing the lazies at my club that think that boob size is the ONLY thing that matters.
Reznor
10-31-2006, 09:03 AM
In my experiences, guys will overlook dancing skill, body type, looks, and even how well the implants were done, and STILL go for the girl with the implants.
My experience is also that guys say they hate implants. Like 90% of guys I tell about my upcoming surgery beg me not to do it.
...
Then they all get dances from the implanted girls because they can't tell what implants even look like. lol
Lola Rose
10-31-2006, 09:53 AM
my attitude didn't change at all, but the new girls made a big difference, esp on slow nights. I'm a little too top heavy for my size, but t and a match. I just naturally have a tiny tiny waistline (like I tightlaced)
I went from a 32b to a 34d/32dd, and I make more everynight. I alredy ha sales skills and took dw's home course, personality and self maintenence. But now Ihave to approach less guys. My sales skills bump us up to vip or more dances, but the girls break the ice and get attention. They look fairly rea, and guys can't even tell by feel. They didn't really change my confidence, but now if I work as hard as I used to (pre ba) I can make 1 and a half to twice as much. I can also slack off a little and still make what I used to. We're over 4 month old, and the novelty hasn't worn off, and I don't think it will!
cherry_sin
10-31-2006, 10:25 AM
I don't know much about the other side of the spectrum, but I'm a FF naturally - and I've made bank since day one, before I knew how to hustle the floor. Sales training and reading here boosted my income even more - and evem of I sit around at the bar, I get approached for dances - As long as I am wearing a low cut top.
Pretty_Penny
10-31-2006, 10:58 AM
i have full B cup breasts. they fit my body well and are a good shape. i never had a problem with them till i started working topless. at least 75% of the girls at my club have implants (they favor hiring bit breasted girls at my club). i'd say another 15% have natural very large breasts. the remaining 10% are the girls with B cups or less. i make good money, and in the long run i don't think it's as important as a ton of other things. it all boils down to the "total package". HOWEVER, when we do 2-4-1s where we just get naked and walk around asking for dances, i have noticed losing sales to girls with bigger tits. i've had guys flat out ask me why i don't get implants or talk to their friend about how i'm hot but they like bigger tits. of course, i've also had plenty of guys tell me they love my breasts, so whatever. the point is, you're always going to lose sales to SOMEONE. if it's not because the guy likes their breasts better it might be their hair, their personality, their ass, whatever. rejection is part of the job. on a whole... i haven't noticed that girls with bigger tits make more money (on average) than girls that don't. plenty of hot girls with big boobs who don't know how to sell don't do very well. i do wonder though, if i got implants, would i make more? i'll never find out. surgery scares the fuck out of me. i just wish i still liked my breasts as much as i used to. they look so small compared to everyones massive implants.
at least i have the best ass. lol
the "ass men" have definately made me some killer money.
vidadiva
10-31-2006, 12:13 PM
I used to think implants made a big boost in a dancer's income, but after reading this thread, I now know that it's not that big of a deal. More confidence and better sales skills are way better assets to add. Of course, I would still feel awkward walking into a dressing room full of silicone with my little 34A mouthfulls lol but I'm not going to rush off to get a few hundred cc's added to my chest so I can blend in at work. I would quicker run to sales seminar to learn and trade selling tips. Plus, I appreciate my gymnast chest just as much as the tasteful implants:)
Also, I look on the brightside that I won't ever have to worry about popping my boob doing pole work. I came across too many dancers who popped their implants from the pressure induced by intermediate to advance pole work.
Picaresque
10-31-2006, 02:17 PM
I totally agree with the theme of a few pages back, that there has to be SOMETHING about you that's particularly eye-catching and stands out in the crowd. If you've got something immediately noticeable and unique, you don't have to do QUITE as much hustling, because your special feature--whatever that happens to be--does some of the "talking" for you and gets you started.
This is just my $0.02, but it seems like, for a lot of girls, that "eye-catching something" is a new, bigger set of tits. I'm not knocking that at all--whatever works, and whatever feels right to you, is all good! :) I just propose that your eye-catching something doesn't HAVE to be your boobs. I will absolutely never have a BA, that's just my personal choice...so to stand out, I rely on attention-getting stage sets and notoriously outlandish costumes. It works--I always have guys lined up for dances when i get off the main stage. :)
Your eye-catching feature might be your flaming-red hair, or being of a certain ethnic mix that looks exotic and unique, or a foreign accent (in my experience most guys eat that right up and drool all over the foreign girls and their "sexy accents"), or your boots that glow in the blacklight and flash blue and red when you walk, or the fact that you dance to swing music amidst a sea of girls shaking it to R&B...or a new set of big boobs! :) whatever! i just observe that having SOMETHING that sets you apart from the crowd leads to an easier hustle.
SC_dude
10-31-2006, 04:26 PM
Then they all get dances from the implanted girls because they can't tell what implants even look like. lol
the new implants are so good you really can't even tell the difference in looks and feel. there's maybe a negligible difference in feel that is totally outwieghed by the vavavoom
Melonie
10-31-2006, 04:53 PM
all I can say is that I wouldn't be comfortably 'retired' today if I hadn't gotten breast implants ... and bigger breast implants ... and even bigger breast implants LOL.
It is undeniably true that there are some areas and some clubs where big breasts don't do well at all. There are some other areas and clubs where big breasts versus small breasts don't seem to make much of a difference. However, there are a whole bunch of areas and clubs where big breasts draw private dance customers like moths to a flame !!
cinammonkisses
10-31-2006, 05:43 PM
However, there are a whole bunch of areas and clubs where big breasts draw private dance customers like moths to a flame !!
And where would this place be...I'll be packing my suitcases and on the next flight out :P
GoldCoastGirl
10-31-2006, 06:13 PM
Based upon Emily's list (and I don't have a BA plus an A cup bust) from my personal experience within strip clubs:
This is my short list of what I think is important to make money in this business:
1. personality (good attiude is part of it: being friendly, down to earth, sense of humour etc)
2. sales skills
3. presentation (this includes make-up and hair plus what you are wearing as it must compliment/enhance your best features as whilst guys may not outwardly say "wow great outfit".. having a quality outfit subconsiously does say something instead of something you found in the bargain bin or has stains on it etc)
4. proportionate healthy body (don't be too skinny and have tits that are too large for your frame as overall having a proportionate body is your best money maker so investing in a BA can help if you feel it will make you look more proportionate and/or if your boobs aren't as perky and full)
5. luck/timing
with private parties it is much different. Presentation takes the top spot as when the client books for the first time all they have to go off is photos (usually found on a website so make sure the photos are good!). Personality only comes into the equation once you are at the booking so as to get future (repeat) business/work.