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Nicolina
03-10-2005, 11:19 AM
Furthermore, the health hazards, physical and mental discomfort experienced by those dancers--who prefer not to have some asshole they just met five minutes ago gleefully attempting to thrust his digits in them, and who could well have just done the same to another dancer with God knows what diseases--might be much worse than the slightly increased risk of a rare problem occuring from wearing a tampon a few extra hours on those nights they might decide to work.

I cannot take credit for this clever little trick for discouraging guys hell bent on digital penetration. I heard about it being recommended by the house mom in the biggest and 'best' stripclub in Detroit.

Djoser, I don't get it. How is a tampon going to prevent disease transmission once fingering has occurred? The guy won't be discouraged by the tampon until he's gotten far enough to know it's there, right? And once he's gotten that far, any bacteria or other pathogens on his digits have already been in contact with the girl's mucous membranes. It seems to me that a tampon, at this point, would only serve to trap said pathogens and perhaps give them increased surface area on which to proliferate.
I just don't think this is a very good solution to the problem.

Seems to me that the best way for a dancer to protect her physical (and emotional) health in this case is to prevent things from ever going this far in the first place.

Djoser
03-10-2005, 11:46 AM
Djoser, I don't get it. How is a tampon going to prevent disease transmission once fingering has occurred? The guy won't be discouraged by the tampon until he's gotten far enough to know it's there, right?

...Seems to me that the best way for a dancer to protect her physical (and emotional) health in this case is to prevent things from ever going this far in the first place.

Most guys are gonna stop trying to get their finger in real fast if they feel a tampon on the way in, and give up all thought of further attempts. Guys tend to be squeamish about periods, something I have never understood, but seems to be nearly universal.

So the finger, containing whatever nasty passengers picked up from various sources--including other dancers who aren't so discriminating about this--is thwarted in its owner's goal of full and prolonged penetration, without the dancer in question having to say a word, slap his hand away, or scream for a bouncer who doesn't give a shit anyway.

Perhaps the order of the dancers' concerns was misplaced in my post, and the "physical and mental discomfort" which I mentioned, felt by the majority of dancers who aren't fond of having total strangers finger them--should have been put first.

But you did hit the nail on the head in your last statement.

A friend of mine didn't wear tampons, as the housemom recommended, and only once did a very large and physically strong customer succeed in penetrating her vagina with his finger against her will. Ironically enough, this happened at the same time that another SW member experienced the exact same thing in another city and posted about it. They were both fairly new to dancing.

The resulting trauma--though intense--was short-lived, she recovered quickly after leaving work early, and from that point on was even more careful about letting guys get anywhere near this area.

Maybe wearing a tampon isn't the best method for preventing unwanted fingering. I was just passing on this method, recommended by the housemom at the most lucrative stripclub in this city, where many of the dancers allow fingering--and thus the rest must expect the customers to rudely attempt it on a frequent basis. It was apparently advice directed primarily at newbies, and not needed by someone as experienced as yourself at warding off assholes.

tearstearstears
03-10-2005, 12:37 PM
Also, after a girl gets a nasty finger to/in her crotch i doubt she's going to leave the tampon in there. If it were me i'd be going to the bathroom, taking it out and wiping the area with vaginal wipes (that have the right PH balance).

charlygirl
03-11-2005, 04:51 AM
the shorter guys are from (if I remember correctly) the more southern part of Mexico, closer to south america. THe taller guys are from the northern part, and are more americanized. The northern contingent believes the southernes are idiots, and the southerners think the northerners snobs!


Thats exactly what this Mexican guy told me when I asked with my 'South America ignoramus' self why he didnt look like the other short Mexicans I met.

charlygirl
03-11-2005, 04:59 AM
Djoser, sorry man, I never knew you were a D.J.
You are definitely going far and beyond then for your job. You shouldnt even have to do that as thats what bouncers are supposed to be for.

Guess what, my freind encountered this same Arab guy at my old club last night and mailed me that he was there. He reportedly said to her that girls in the club are selfish because all they think about is being respected and not anything about the guys who enter the club really horny who need to ejaculate. He said that it was our jobs to give men a good service in the club.
I was mad as hell that I wasnt with her when he said it because I would have sent his ass for a special service-at out patients. If this is how some guys feel about us its terrible.

colleen
03-11-2005, 10:56 AM
Guess what, my freind encountered this same Arab guy at my old club last night and mailed me that he was there. He reportedly said to her that girls in the club are selfish because all they think about is being respected and not anything about the guys who enter the club really horny who need to ejaculate. He said that it was our jobs to give men a good service in the club.
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I wouldn't take it too personally; I think it's a cultural thing. IF they had strip clubs in the mid east (which I bet they don't, except maybe for benefit of tourists in the big cities) they would be a front for a brothel.

I think it is disgusting tht there is a whole CULTURE where littel boys grow into men believing that that women should be treated as badly as they are are in some middle east countries, but it is not surprising that somebody from that area should act the way you describe . I knew a female soldier who was stationed in Saudi Arabia during Operatiopn Desert Storm, and while she was walking down the street in Uniform with her male partner, one of the local men actaully SPIT on her. Unfortunatley, beating up the locals is a Court Marshall Offense, so her partner held her back.

OTOH, when in Rome . . . As long as this guy is in the USA, he needs to get with the program and learn the culture. This is what I tell my customers from MExico who honestly believe tha lingerie models are actaully prostitutes. In some areas of Mexico, I am told, the hookers walk around bars in lingerie. So of course, that is what they think I am doing. SOmetimes it is hard to convince them otherwise.

AmericanDreams
03-11-2005, 11:10 AM
Dancers who allow this sort of thing should be working out of an escort agency and not in the clubs. Such an activity is prostitution, IMHO.

dgtlfnk
03-11-2005, 09:07 PM
He reportedly said to her that girls in the club are selfish because all they think about is being respected and not anything about the guys who enter the club really horny who need to ejaculate. He said that it was our jobs to give men a good service in the club.

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If this is how some guys feel about us its terrible.

This line of thinking absolutely disgusts me. And yes... there are a significant percentage of men who actually believe this nonsense... domestic OR foreign. Many men... but NOT all, mind you... are pigs. Plain and simple. And frankly, this is just another example of disgraceful philosophy that truly embarrasses me towards my fellow gender mates.

Don't lose faith, though. There are even more of us out there that adore, cherish and respect everything that a woman embodies... good OR bad. And many, like me, are doing their best to re-educate our pig brothers. Gives a new meaning to the line... "so many men, so little time."


I wouldn't take it too personally; I think it's a cultural thing. IF they had strip clubs in the mid east (which I bet they don't, except maybe for benefit of tourists in the big cities) they would be a front for a brothel.

I think it is disgusting tht there is a whole CULTURE where littel boys grow into men believing that that women should be treated as badly as they are are in some middle east countries, but it is not surprising that somebody from that area should act the way you describe . I knew a female soldier who was stationed in Saudi Arabia during Operatiopn Desert Storm, and while she was walking down the street in Uniform with her male partner, one of the local men actaully SPIT on her. Unfortunatley, beating up the locals is a Court Marshall Offense, so her partner held her back.

OTOH, when in Rome . . . As long as this guy is in the USA, he needs to get with the program and learn the culture. This is what I tell my customers from MExico who honestly believe tha lingerie models are actaully prostitutes. In some areas of Mexico, I am told, the hookers walk around bars in lingerie. So of course, that is what they think I am doing. SOmetimes it is hard to convince them otherwise.

And there in lies the problem. People from other cultures and/or countries DO know that it's different here. They simply choose to ignore it and continue to live life the way THEY see fit. After all.. this is "the land of the free", right?? http://img217.exs.cx/img217/4250/rolleyes0ev.gif This is ESPECIALLY true for men from certain countries that tend to be a little more arrogant and chauvinistic.... with most arab countries being notorious for this. Wasn't it posted earlier about the arab man that told the dancer she'd be stoned in the streets if she was in his country?? WTF is that???

Don't be fooled into thinking that this is a case of men not knowing. It's almost assuredly ALWAYS a case of wishful thinking... and weak excuses, in an attempt to get what they really want.

Bottom line is... stay strong and stick to yer guns. ALL custys are in YOUR country, YOUR city, YOUR club, and must follow YOUR personal rules. Period.

Take advantage of the power that YOU have during each and every dance you work. You're the queen of that stage, bench or table at that moment. All should kneel before your word. ;)








Non-believers should be unceremoniously punched in the throat. ;D

Katrine
03-11-2005, 09:10 PM
...........yeah, and each and every American in a foreign country immediately assimilated and becomes respectful of foreign laws and customs. It works both ways.........

dgtlfnk
03-11-2005, 09:16 PM
...........yeah, and each and every American in a foreign country immediately assimilated and becomes respectful of foreign laws and customs. It works both ways.........

Exactly. Lack of respect knows no national boundaries.

I hope you didn't think I was pointing a finger at only non-Americans. :-[