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yoda57us
04-25-2005, 06:12 PM
^^ Whew, thanks P, for a while there I thought it was gonna be another sleepless night....;)
evan_essence
04-29-2005, 12:29 AM
1. How about girls who have done that a couple of times but its not a regular selling point for her?Choosy extras girl. ;)
2. How about clubs where extras in the dance are the norm, and almost every girl does them? Its an extras club and the girls need to give high mileage to compete, are they then still "extras girls"?Under your definition, I don't see how they could perform the defined acts and not be labeled that. If, on the other hand, you were to define extras as being practices beyond the standard operating procedure of the club, which is relative and varies from club to club, then no, they would not be extras girls. The club might be an extras club compared to the norm across clubs, but the girls wouldn't be performing extras if they're within SOP.
3. What if those same girls would not provide the extras if and when they work in clubs where they can make good money without the extras?I wouldn't consider them extras girls in an environment where they're not performing extras, as defined. Like someone else said, former extras girls.
I understand the definition for the sake of parsimony. Locking down terms is cool for discussion's sake. But to me, extra carries with it the meaning of something extra beyond the SOP. I don't have a semantics problem using extras in a relative way any more than I would object to using mileage relatively. So, yeah, touching at a club where air is SOP is an extra in my normal vocabulary, but I probably better make that clear before engaging in a discussion about it since there doesn't seem to be universal agreement about this.
4. How about girls who were duped by customers the first few times around into giving very high mileage because the rules were not explained to her? -This happened to me the very first time at my very first club.I would define that as being an undeserved victim of opportunistic assholes.
I just think that throwing around the term "extras girl" without really delving into the meaning it like ironing a scarlett letter upon any stripper who doesn't fit into this mold created by other strippers as to how other girls should be making money in the club.Now that we have it defined, can we break out the letter jackets for the girls who meet the definition? To be fair, I think we also need to come up with equivalent terms and definitions on the consumer side. Extras addict? Extras fiend? Extras madness?
People who think they need to make themselves feel better by drawing standards "south" of themselves, do it to displace anger they feel from others drawing standards "north" of them. Plain and simple. It's nothing unique to the gals upstairs. We even do it over here sometimes whether or not we realize it.There's no emotional displacement in expecting employees and customers to abide by the standards set, either actively or passively, by the club. It's simply a business model.
-Ev
Katrine
04-29-2005, 11:23 AM
The dancer needs to know the rules and be firm with her own boundaries.
Ok, go ahead and be firm when you are out on the floor for the first time ever, no one told you the rules, and you wearing nothing but a thong, shaking like a chihuaha, being held down by 5 Messicans. I'm sure its something you would enjoy. >:(
Katrine
04-29-2005, 05:18 PM
Being physically restrained against your will and not knowing the rules are two separate issues. If somebody is forcing you to do something, I don't see how it matters what the rules are or what you're boundaries are, because the customer is just being completely abusive. I was thinking more like a customer was touching you in a certain way, and you didn't know if it was the norm or not, so you just let him.
Ok, I'm getting really pissed off here because of something personal that no one here really knows or cares about, I'm just not going to respond further......
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Jenny
04-29-2005, 05:38 PM
My first night back at work I always go home and cry and wonder why I ever thought dancing was a good idea. The next day I'm tough again and am perfectly capable of armwrestling any of the guys into submission. Your first night, especially in a new club, where you don't know the rules and you don't know what everyone else is doing etc., and you don't know how much money you're going to make, and you don't know if you've gained 5 pounds from not dancing over the past five months, and you remember that you are 1.5 years older than last time you started dancing, you are really, really vulnerable and can be pressured. And that's not even your first night dancing, period. Now, I'm not calling sexual assault, and I realize perfectly well that one cannot expect customers to look out for you, but it still isn't nice.
merely_lurking
04-29-2005, 08:26 PM
Ok, I'm getting really pissed off here because of something personal that no one here really knows or cares about, I'm just not going to respond further......
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I probably shouldn't have said anything after you clarified exactly what you were talking about. My bad, Kat... :-X
GiselleQ
08-17-2005, 11:37 AM
I guess I am always a stripper. Got sidelined into the escort buisiness, sometime back, but came back to being a stripper again.
As I remember, I gave extras, but only when the customr asked for it. And only in the VIP room. Guys could feel me, and I gave HJ's but only when I used gloves and cleaned the guys genital area first. I only gave one feel me session per night. I don't like the idea of too many fingers from different people one followed by another.
I don't do BJ's or intercourse in the VIP room. I may be a whore, but damn it, this is where I draw the line. You pull that kind of krap in the club, and you could catch something and wind up dead. Moneys nice but you got to look after your health.
GiselleQ
08-17-2005, 03:58 PM
Giselle:
With all due respect, if you were a troll you wouldn't have written a more befitting post.
Thank you, if I offended you, I aplogize.
GiselleQ
08-17-2005, 04:17 PM
Well, now getting back on topic, if a guys got to have a BJ, you can use a condom.
BTW, if the guy is giving you a hassle about having to use a condom for a blowjob, there's a way you can put it on his dick without him knowing. It takes some practice, but you start with it in your mouth and then kind of roll it on his penis as your head goes down. When you're done you can just leave it on him so he can see what an asshole he is
xdamage
08-17-2005, 10:30 PM
I don't do BJ's or intercourse in the VIP room. I may be a whore, but damn it, this is where I draw the line. You pull that kind of krap in the club, and you could catch something and wind up dead. Moneys nice but you got to look after your health.
Everyone draws their line at a different point. I have my line that limits what I do in the club for two very selfish reasons.
1. I have an SO and would feel like crap (read as 'guilt') if I violated my line.
2. I like being free of STDs.
Thats it, it's entirely selfish. I wish I could say it was because I love my SO and I had higher aspirations, but I think its just because really I don't want to feel guility or be sick.
Wherever others feel like drawing their lines, thats cool. I think the only real issue issues are what goes on in the clubs that affect others negatively against their will. For example, if I brought home some disease to my SO without her knowing it, that would violate my sense of principles because I wouldnt want to be treated like that. Or if an extras girl ends up getting her co-workers arrested, not right. Beyond that though Id prefer that the goverment just drop the fricking laws, and leave it up to the clubs and girls to decide what their limits are. It goes on anyway, the law is mostly useless.
amylynnej
08-18-2005, 05:27 PM
actually the extras girls need to be run out of the business, and if that means using law enforcement or the courts so be it. we dont need whores i our business. they have street corners.
actually the extras girls need to be run out of the business, and if that means using law enforcement or the courts so be it. we dont need whores i our business. they have street corners.
Amy glad to see you back in your usual form ;)
FBR
Katrine
08-19-2005, 01:40 AM
Can we ban Amy from the blue side please?
SportsWriter2
08-19-2005, 05:35 AM
Can we ban Amy from the blue side please?
At least until Derek comes back... :-\
But hey, at least she doesn't want them tortured and killed by vigilante dancers.
cpeters1
08-19-2005, 10:43 AM
DATY? Means Dine at the Y? That's fucking disgusting. I like eating pussy as much as any other guy, but I also like it hygenically clean not to mention germ clean. You'd actually eat a strippers pussy in the club, ew, say it ain't so.
Mastridonicus
08-19-2005, 04:50 PM
wait....what?!
Wait she's a dancer, so she's not hygenically clean?
Just curious about the the thought process :D
::Mast::
cpeters1
08-19-2005, 08:08 PM
It has nothing to do with being a dancer. Any woman, after working for a few hours, going to the bathroom, in my opinion is not as clean as I would like. I also don't come home from work and expect my wife to blow me before I shower. I guess I just like things clean and fresh and not sweaty and used. Now, factor in the fact that you are quite possibly not the first person to DATY that night, for all you know the last guy she just got done with was sticking his infected fingers in her. I doubt she runs to the bathroom to freshen up between custies.
Moneywise
08-19-2005, 08:59 PM
also don't come home from work and expect my wife to blow me before I shower. I guess I just like things clean and fresh and not sweaty and used.
hmm... So after you've fucked her until her legs go numb do you still smell fresh & clean as a whistle?
http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/25953/200.jpg
Last I knew most people smelled sweaty & used after good sex. Key word good.
cpeters1
08-19-2005, 09:10 PM
I never thought wanting to have sex with a clean pussy would get such a negative reaction.
So after you've fucked her until her legs go numb do you still smell fresh & clean as a whistle?
Uh no, but we also do not typically clean each other up with our tounges after sex either. Completely different. Lick, suck, fuck, it works for us.
Moneywise
08-19-2005, 09:17 PM
Uh no, but we also do not typically clean each other up with our tounges after sex either. Completely different. Lick, suck, fuck, it works for us.
I'm glad that works for you. lick, fuck, suck, lick, fuck, lick, fuck works pretty good too. They're just bodily fluids shared between two monogamous people in love that only have one life to live which is very short. You might as well enjoy it to the fullest. Different strokes though so don't take me wrong. I only give advice at my RL job. (where it serves a purpose) In this circle I prefer to sit back and observe with a big bowl of popcorn.
MinahSky
08-19-2005, 10:04 PM
You can tell the guys that are truly embarased by shooting a load and the ones that are (pardon the pun) gunning for it. I personally respect a man more if he has the respect for himself (which "covers" me as well) to put a condom on before we start dancing. That way he doesn't have to penguin to the bathroom and spend half an hour in there cleaning himself up before going home. Also, I dont' have to take a shower (taking me out of commission for a while) and quarantine that outfit...
merely_lurking
08-19-2005, 10:19 PM
Back when I was experimenting with extras, if I came all over the place I would just wipe up what I could with a cocktail napkin and just sort of sit there for awhile in the air conditioning to let my pants dry out. It was really dark and I don't remember anyone ever noticing. I guess from a germ perspective that was kind of reckless and irresponsible, but that's where I was "coming" from back then. I've moved on to other hobbies, and just have sex with real people now.
Mastridonicus
08-19-2005, 11:09 PM
It has nothing to do with being a dancer. Any woman, after working for a few hours, going to the bathroom, in my opinion is not as clean as I would like. I also don't come home from work and expect my wife to blow me before I shower. I guess I just like things clean and fresh and not sweaty and used. Now, factor in the fact that you are quite possibly not the first person to DATY that night, for all you know the last guy she just got done with was sticking his infected fingers in her. I doubt she runs to the bathroom to freshen up between custies.
Well I guess I understand that. IMO tho, I don't bother worrying, only because detailed thoughts on this are purely speculation and opinion.
If I eat a girl out, I have already decided she's worth it.
MinahSky
08-20-2005, 01:07 AM
I think its funny that people automatically think that because a female is a dancer that she's any more promiscuous than anyone else.
I lost my virginity years later than all of my friends, they have more one night stands and my partner count is also much lower than theirs. I've never had an STD, something I can't say for them. I'm the ONLY one that's a dancer.
yoda57us
08-20-2005, 06:47 AM
Now, factor in the fact that you are quite possibly not the first person to DATY that night, for all you know the last guy she just got done with was sticking his infected fingers in her. I doubt she runs to the bathroom to freshen up between custies.
Well, now your simply not giving a smart extras girl enough credit. If a girl's MO is to offer DATY, either as a value added extra or for cold hard cash, she is going to keep the merchandise clean betwee customers. It's not that difficult to do. Hell, most strip clubs today actually have hot and cold running water....;)
SportsWriter2
08-20-2005, 07:53 AM
If a girl's MO is to offer DATY, either as a value added extra or for cold hard cash, she is going to keep the merchandise clean betwee customers. It's not that difficult to do. Hell, most strip clubs today actually have hot and cold running water....;)
No kidding. In two of your favorite clubs, I've seen girls getting licked down the line on the nude stage. More like warm running saliva. :P
kassyS
08-20-2005, 05:11 PM
An older lady that I once knew told me always to keep what is know as "ho" bag hidden someplace in the VIP room.
A Ho Bag is a wee sports purse.
Inside it you have: condoms, baby powder (helps putting on condoms), a price list for all the extras, Band-Aids, Listerine (if you dare give a BJ unwrapped), Saran Wrap (so you don't get herpes when he eats you out), and the most important thing in the world: a pack of Wet Ones.
The Wet Ones, they help rid you of the "grossies" after a bad session, and they get jizz off your face in a way that makes it feel like it was never there.
mr_punk
08-20-2005, 09:50 PM
Now, factor in the fact that you are quite possibly not the first person to DATY that night, for all you know the last guy she just got done with was sticking his infected fingers in her. I doubt she runs to the bathroom to freshen up between custies.au contraire..i find strippers to be almost obsessive about hygiene. unlike customers who have no problem walking into a sc smelling like unwashed ass. strippers often freshen up between laps.
A Ho Bag is a wee sports purse. Inside it you have: condoms, baby powder (helps putting on condoms), a price list for all the extras, Band-Aids, Listerine (if you dare give a BJ unwrapped), Saran Wrap (so you don't get herpes when he eats you out), and the most important thing in the world: a pack of Wet Ones. The Wet Ones, they help rid you of the "grossies" after a bad session, and they get jizz off your face in a way that makes it feel like it was never there.don't forget about the purell gel they squirt into a customer's hand before a lap. anyway, you're correct. i suppose that's why PLs look for strippers who walk around with those little purses in the sc.
yoda57us
08-21-2005, 06:00 AM
No kidding. In two of your favorite clubs, I've seen girls getting licked down the line on the nude stage. More like warm running saliva. :P
Sporty: Oh yeah, I've seen it too. This is what happens when the dayshift has 20 girls and only ten customers for most of the afternoon. The crack-heads still need their crack and the 150lb WalMart rejects are more than happy to bank $300 a day letting guys lick them. But, being the selective sort that you are, you know as well as I do how to be a smart shopper.
cpeters1
08-21-2005, 06:44 AM
jizz off your face
Jizz off your face? Are we talking about SCs or Brothels here? I guess I have lead a very sheltered life and need to get out more.
yoda57us
08-21-2005, 07:50 PM
Jizz off your face? Are we talking about SCs or Brothels here? I guess I have lead a very sheltered life and need to get out more.
Lol, it's all good CP. I spend most of my club time latey in a minimal contact club in the company of decidedly non-extras girls. It's just nice to know that I can drive 35 miles and take a walk on the wild side when I'm in the mood.
Moneywise
08-21-2005, 07:56 PM
oh man... The ho bag. What a title. :D
Remember that trip I made to Vegas? Well, the girl that I got cozy on the VIP of the CH2 with carried a little white purse. The wet wipes & lotion came in very handy. }:D
Susan Wayward
08-21-2005, 08:39 PM
and the 150lb WalMart rejects are more than happy to bank $300 a day letting guys lick them.
:finger: from me and my 150 lbs :finger:
SportsWriter2
08-22-2005, 03:37 AM
Wet Ones... get jizz off your face in a way that makes it feel like it was never there.
Beautiful writing. If you've ever taken a pretty girl out to eat after an encounter, you know exactly how good that is. :)
kassyS
08-22-2005, 03:54 PM
Another advice another old gal gave me was to never steal.
You can always cuddle a customer to an ATM machine, watch him use it, memorize his pin, and when he passed out drunk, or in the bath room, steal his card.
Oh, yeah, it certainly is tempting.
But yield not to temptation, because yielding can get you a jail term, not to mention getting your faced bashed in by the bouncer. Only if you get caught.
Exotic Gals.
Clubs love anyone that looks remotely exotic because they can advertise you as the latest fetishized gals (Asians, East Europeans), which changes about every four months.
Especially, asians and native americans. If you have even a hint of Native in you, you're totally set because you can be advertised as anything from half-Asian to Fijian royalty.
My ancestors came from East Europe near Scandanavia, so that didn't hurt me at all.
My weird looks set me apart from the other girls. Which helped sometimes and sometimes not.
yoda57us
08-22-2005, 08:42 PM
:finger: from me and my 150 lbs :finger:
My appologies if I offended you SW. I probably should have picked a higher number but the post was more about a TYPE of dancer not a number on a scale. Nice smileys but I think you over-reacted a bit.
VetteKilla
08-22-2005, 09:38 PM
I don't really think of them as extras girls. I just think of them as girls I know give a good lap dance. It's a mix between a HJ and I guess stick shifting.
There was one time I got a dace from a stripper who asked me she could do what she wanted. She took it out and gave me head. It was the end of the night, and after the 2nd song she quit and well I walked out with a tent. I only paid her 40.00 which is the price for a lap dance.
I had a girl take me to the VIP ( Lap dance area with couches) and tell me her menu. When I told her I was just there for a beer after school (had a rough exam) she got all huffy and walked off.
Susan Wayward
08-22-2005, 09:39 PM
If you think what I did was overreacting, you obviously haven't made many cracks about weight to women, so I'll let it slide.
If you want to say "unattractive dancer" just say it. Hell, say far worse.
Moneywise
08-22-2005, 09:43 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I prefer a shapely woman with most of the weight distributed to her ass. I'm a sucker for a beautiful ass plain and simple. If your avatar is any indication of what you look like from behind I just need to know where I should slip the twenties.
Susan Wayward
08-22-2005, 09:49 PM
MW, you could fold them into little tents lengthwise and I would pick them up. Without using my hands.
Moneywise
08-22-2005, 09:57 PM
That's hot. :hot:
Susan Wayward
08-22-2005, 10:11 PM
You do realize that there is a website, reachable through my signature, where there are other ass photos, right? I swear to god you won't have to read much even though the link reads "Susan's Stripper Diary."
Back on the topic of extras girls, I saw one giving head today in VIP, apparently unaware that the highbacked chair she pulled cattycorner to her table did not, in fact, become an impenetrable wall of invisibility.
Moneywise
08-22-2005, 10:25 PM
Ouch. The photo in the wading pool with your back to the camera. :eye-poppi
SportsWriter2
08-23-2005, 12:47 AM
Ouch. The photo in the wading pool with your back to the camera. :eye-poppi
I've probably done more stunts with 100-pound dancers than anyone on SCJ, but I think that picture is HOT! Shame on you, Yoda.
yoda57us
08-23-2005, 03:49 AM
Sporty: Last year I took crap from DANCERS on the pink site who said I liked "FAT CHICKS" because an old ATF once gained her way up to 160lbs.:O I'll take a little grief from a dancer who feels insulted by one of my posts-even if it was unintentional-but I won't take grief from a guy who has a 105lb limit on his dancing partners. PLEASE! that bit of dancer ass -kissing was over the top even for you....;)
Susan Wayward
08-23-2005, 07:37 AM
Jesus, guys are easy to stir up. Take it easy; I'm not offended. I was just busting Yoda's balls. I have every respect for personal preference in the world. I just didn't think it was nice to make the assumption that 150 lbs was always unattractive. Maybe if you 5'3".
SportsWriter2
08-23-2005, 07:44 AM
I'll take a little grief from a dancer who feels insulted by one of my posts-even if it was unintentional-but I won't take grief from a guy who has a 105lb limit on his dancing partners. PLEASE! that bit of dancer ass -kissing was over the top even for you....;)
My flyer award category went up to five-three and 108. I'm just used to doing stunts with that size.... I've never had an upper limit for favorites, and I really like SW's pictures. I'm not offended, but sometimes it hurts to be misunderstod. ;)
yoda57us
08-23-2005, 07:18 PM
SW: Sporty and I play this little game often. It's our twisted idea of amusement. You look great in your pictures.
SeppeSai
08-24-2005, 03:57 PM
This is my favorite Susan photo.
http://www.rivercitykitty.com/photos/striptease10.html
There's a dancer at my home club that reminds me of you, Susan. Whenever I see her I think of you.
eta this from Susan:
Back on the topic of extras girls, I saw one giving head today in VIP, apparently unaware that the highbacked chair she pulled cattycorner to her table did not, in fact, become an impenetrable wall of invisibility.
On my last visit to the ATF, we both saw something very similar. The dancer wasn't giving head, but was allowing severe groping and dancing in an extremely dirty/nasty manner. The ATF and I were both put off by such a display. They were in a corner that isn't super visible to those outside the VIP area, but the ATF and I got the full show from the booth diagonally from theirs. Eww.
LemonLime
08-25-2005, 12:12 AM
On my last visit to the ATF, we both saw something very similar. The dancer wasn't giving head, but was allowing severe groping and dancing in an extremely dirty/nasty manner. The ATF and I were both put off by such a display. They were in a corner that isn't super visible to those outside the VIP area, but the ATF and I got the full show from the booth diagonally from theirs. Eww.
Damn, enjoy the show! It's free.