Melonie
06-29-2005, 03:58 PM
Unfortunately I have to corroborate other posters who have stated that this sort of shit is not at all uncommon ... particularly in contact clubs. The only real answer is to have some 'self-defense' moves of your own up your sleeve, because despite your faith in bouncers they may not be immediately present, they may not have actual 'cause' to work over the offending customer (if the bouncer didn't see it happen, legally it's the customer's word against the dancer's word), and they may be under instructions from club management to exercise a large degree of restraint re taking actions which might drive away paying customers by causing a 'scene'.
The last time a guy tried to finger me, I did my Lucy Liu impression in time to stop his hand before his fingers reached the 'target' ... I explained that this was NOT permitted and NOT legal, and told him to sit on his hands for the rest of the dance. Wouldn't you know that as soon as I turned my back towards the customer he did it again ! Well, about one second later, I had the guy in a hammerlock - I marched him straight out of the VIP room, straight through the main club area, and straight past the club owner by the front door cover charge register. I looked at the owner and said 'have you got a problem with this ?', to which the owner responded 'go for it'. So I marched this asshole straight past the line of guys at the front door waiting to pay their cover charges, out the front door, gave him an arm snap and a kick square in the ass with my 5" heel, and yelled, 'don't EVER show your face at this club again, pervert !". After I walked back in the club, the owner reminded me that I could have been busted for being out on the sidewalk wearing nothing except 5" heels, but the cheers and applause from the customers standing in line made it a lot easier to take (plus no other guys were grabby in the least that night, for some reason or another LOL). And that guy never did show his face in that club again.
The legal point is that clubowners and bouncers have to be careful about being sued if they use force against a customer, particularly if they have not seen direct evidence of a need to use force. As I said earlier, legally speaking, if a bouncer has not personally seen a customer commit an offensive act, it is a situation of the bouncer (or a judge or jury if a lawsuit results) balancing the credibility of a dancer against the credibility of a customer. On the other hand, if the dancer herself uses force, then in order to be sued a customer would have to admit to being bested by a 5'3" female for starters, and if a lawsuit did result the dancer would have the opportunity to make a first-hand case regarding what that customer had done which prompted/justified her use of force in response. Unfortunately, this is where America's court system has led us to.
The last time a guy tried to finger me, I did my Lucy Liu impression in time to stop his hand before his fingers reached the 'target' ... I explained that this was NOT permitted and NOT legal, and told him to sit on his hands for the rest of the dance. Wouldn't you know that as soon as I turned my back towards the customer he did it again ! Well, about one second later, I had the guy in a hammerlock - I marched him straight out of the VIP room, straight through the main club area, and straight past the club owner by the front door cover charge register. I looked at the owner and said 'have you got a problem with this ?', to which the owner responded 'go for it'. So I marched this asshole straight past the line of guys at the front door waiting to pay their cover charges, out the front door, gave him an arm snap and a kick square in the ass with my 5" heel, and yelled, 'don't EVER show your face at this club again, pervert !". After I walked back in the club, the owner reminded me that I could have been busted for being out on the sidewalk wearing nothing except 5" heels, but the cheers and applause from the customers standing in line made it a lot easier to take (plus no other guys were grabby in the least that night, for some reason or another LOL). And that guy never did show his face in that club again.
The legal point is that clubowners and bouncers have to be careful about being sued if they use force against a customer, particularly if they have not seen direct evidence of a need to use force. As I said earlier, legally speaking, if a bouncer has not personally seen a customer commit an offensive act, it is a situation of the bouncer (or a judge or jury if a lawsuit results) balancing the credibility of a dancer against the credibility of a customer. On the other hand, if the dancer herself uses force, then in order to be sued a customer would have to admit to being bested by a 5'3" female for starters, and if a lawsuit did result the dancer would have the opportunity to make a first-hand case regarding what that customer had done which prompted/justified her use of force in response. Unfortunately, this is where America's court system has led us to.