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SportsWriter2
07-18-2005, 08:31 AM
LOL, no. Anyone with $100 bucks can get some.
If you turn down a DG (Derek Girl), she comes back with an $80 offer. And if you turn that down, she drops to fifty. It doesn't get any cheaper than that indoors. ::)

Derek
07-18-2005, 01:23 PM
I like the bigger girls in the SC - they spend more quality time with u and a lot of them will meet u outside the club to fuck. They r good pussy too.....I will tip one on stage and say "honey I am soo attractd to you, yer the only I have tipped today so far." She will ask how long have u been here and I will say "about 2 Hr" then she will say "don't go anywhere sweetie I will be right over to your table." At one club I go to they have these sexy leather divans up in the VIP area (costs $25 to get up there) and I got one of these gals up there with me. She was wearing this sexy black nightie and like a kid opening a present on xmas I had quite a time feeling her up in it....I told her "honey just sit here with me in the dark part (and let me feel u) and I will pay u money" She was more than happy and I met her OTC the next day and fucked her all the rest of the week (this was business trip to another city). After I had fucked her at my motel a coupla days at $160 a session she told me she was married and asked if that caused me a prob. I told her "just makes me cum that much more intensely babe." She smiled. Gosh she was good pussy (man it felt good to fuck her), a little bit on the plump side but blonde and sexy with nice big tits. She had nice thick muscular legs too, not bird legs and that really made me horny. Sure she was not the finest gal at that club but those gals just want to hustle u 95% of the time anyhow. Take a look at their conversations over there in hustle hut. It was rough going back to Houston but thats the fun of exploring SC out of town. Concentrate on the average girls that might be hungry and you will score.

Bob_Loblaw
07-19-2005, 06:37 AM
Hmm... she sounds familiar. Did she look like this?

http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/masturbation/inventions/sex-dolls/8603-00-1.JPG

SportsWriter2
07-19-2005, 02:28 PM
Yeah, except she was wearing a blonde wig hat and "sexy black nightie." One night another John tried to give her a belly button and POOF, it was over.

No great loss; she had too many stretch marks and couldn't do doggie.

$160/session for a chubby $19.95 ho? I don't think so. ::)

xdamage
07-19-2005, 04:12 PM
I like the bigger girls in the SC -

removed - [lots of stuff about how good it was... blah $160 {negotiating to the nearest $10 increment??} advice stuff on hitting on "hungry" girls who will do anything for a few bucks] - removed


Hmm, why did this just leave me feeling like, well, like we just watched a really bad porn film. You know the kind where you and the SO have to fast forward through all the parts where you see the peoples faces and bodies and it just makes you want to say "yuck, I don't think I feel like sex anymore"

Could we like not have all the gruesome details next time? It was more fun when we had fantasy images of you using your james bondian powers (or that is tom cruisian "Top Gun" powers?) of persusian to convince hot strippers to bang you for $100.

Jenny
07-19-2005, 04:43 PM
^^^^
HA!
Ha!
I TOLD you! I told you it was only the ugly, desperate girls who did this sort of thing!

Okay. Whoever here thought that Derek would really come out in support of one of my contentions? I mean, I don't expect any of you have given the matter excessive thought beforehand - like I doubt anyone last night was all "I wonder if Derek will ever, inadvertantly support one of Jenny's points?" But still, right? A little unexpected?

Derek
07-19-2005, 04:59 PM
I have had the best looking girls (top 1/3) at SC (to fuck) for $350 - it all depends on high u want to go. This particular gal was slender, blonde, and had been a cheerleader. The top 1/3 will fuck for the rite price. I usually like the gals in the middle third cause I can get them for $200, sometimes $150 per private session. If u have a boat to take them out on subtract $50 - $100. I am not saying all SC gals fuck but many do - in some clubs I estimate as high as 60% will fuck 4 $ OTC. Many of them r looking for a guy to hook up with to support them and their kids so they can quit dancing altogether like this one I am doing.

Derek
07-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Every guy who goes to SC knows these gals who dance many of them had kids with loser guys who had no money or were druggies or both. The gals don't get any child support worth shit and thats why they "need help" OTC, especially when rent is due. Then u can basically name yer price when negotiating no matter how fine they look LOL. I have fucked gals who had BF who needed rent $ for peanuts because BF was a bum with no money. And these gals make fun of guys who pay for sex ROFLMAO.

xdamage
07-19-2005, 05:53 PM
If u have a boat to take them out on subtract $50 - $100.

Are we talking boat, like multi-million dollar yacht, or are you talking boat, like the guy has a canoe or sunfish sailboat? I'm just trying to understand the economics of this. Cause it seems like the guy with the multi-million dollar yacht might be entitled to a little more of a break then the canoe guy, say subtract $65 to oh lets call it $127 per session for owning a Yacht. ???

Derek
07-19-2005, 07:55 PM
Like double declining balance depreciation.

SportsWriter2
07-19-2005, 08:10 PM
Where I came from, a red Mustang on a beach road was good for free head. You'd say "I love you"/"I love U2" and it was fun. You didn't need a boat. :)

Bob_Loblaw
07-20-2005, 06:23 AM
No great loss; she had too many stretch marks and couldn't do doggie. ::)

Actually...

http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/masturbation/inventions/sex-dolls/1723-00-1.JPG

Derek
07-20-2005, 08:57 AM
Well I am gonna go to $5 dance day at one of my fav clubs (sort of a warmup for tomorrows OTC session with my main gal). U also get a free meal off the menu. Think I will go over there at lunch. I am working on this one gal, a 30 yr old blonde (seems to have OTC potential) with a great body and another 27 blonde with a great bod. The 27 yr old has indicated she will meet me OTC for fun and games (she wants $350) but I think this is prob a line to get me to come in and date her more ITC. Both of them give really great 2 way contact dances but I think the 30 yr old has more potential. Always looking to add a new girl to my OTC roster. Sometimes u have to work on them, establish positive relationship and then if like I have said before.....they call u needing $ well u know the drill. What u r gonna find in pursuing ones who will go OTC is a lot of BS from ones pretending to be OTC material and sometimes they are really good for ITC fun. I am reg with a gal like this that gave me one helluva of an ITC date New Years Eve. In my opinion, SC gals are cheaper, prettier, and more convienent than reg GF. Sort of like a QB who is good at running the option with a lot of speed for that breakaway threat but no good as a passer. Consequently u play this QB in situations where yer mainly gonna run the ball cause u don't want yer good passer gettin beat up running the option.

Also its free buffet day at Heartbreakers and the idea of getting one of those gals on those sexy leather divans in the upstairs is tempting - boy do those babes give good 2 way full contact! Its only a $25 fee to go up there too and then $20 a dance - tough decision but will go to $5 dance day at the first place and save HB for Friday.

Susan Wayward
07-20-2005, 10:35 AM
Like double declining balance depreciation.

Now I know he's a fake . . . I can't decide whether an actual customer trying to be funny or a 15-yr-old who's read too much of the Houston ASPD club boards . . .

xdamage
07-20-2005, 01:47 PM
Now I know he's a fake . . . I can't decide whether an actual customer trying to be funny or a 15-yr-old who's read too much of the Houston ASPD club boards . . .

I don't think so Susan. I think he's the real thing. But damn-it, now you get to see us guys at our very worst, complete oinkers.

And Derek, just so you know, this is really screwing things up for us around here. Here we are on the blue site, trying to build up images of being suave, intelligent, a cut-above-the-rest kind of guys, and now you've come along proven to the dancers what depths a customer will stoop too for the sake of his pecker. Nice going, team player, NOT, now none of us are going to get any of the good stuff :-X

;D ;D ;D

KC Joe
07-20-2005, 03:57 PM
Now I know he's a fake . . . I can't decide whether an actual customer trying to be funny or a 15-yr-old who's read too much of the Houston ASPD club boards . . .

I think he used to post on ASPD as the wizard, before he got banned.

Mastridonicus
07-20-2005, 04:30 PM
I saw some sex pills at a T/A truck stop for stamina called "TOP GUN"

I laughed my ass off.

Katrine
07-20-2005, 04:35 PM
I think he used to post on ASPD as the wizard, before he got banned.

Hehehehe, I got that mofo banned although it was coming to him for a while!!! Woot!

Katrine
07-20-2005, 04:38 PM
Like double declining balance depreciation.

So your initial deprectiation outlay will be higher initially, then reduced over the life of the stripper's usefuleness? Are you doing this for tax purporses? Why not just use straight-line and make it easy? Now you'll have to look up the MACRS value of like assets, run it through a spreadsheet, etc, etc....

Isn't that a bit too much work? And why would a boat or nice car allow for a discount? Its not like any stripper doesn't know a million guys with boats that will take them and their girls AND pay for their drugs and booze............

Derek
07-20-2005, 07:15 PM
I am a direct kinda guy, I tell like it is. I am a player, no holds barred. I set up this forum for other Topguns like myself to share experiences / views of dating dancers OTC. I enjoy dancers both ITC and OTC, run a balanced offense. I recall a lunch date with one dancer, she was pissed because I would not let her mooch $40 from me - she said "u told me u loved me" I said "yes I did" then like fatal attraction she was real pissed "who r u to just play someone like that" I walked out of the restaurant - this was over a yr ago. Started going to different clubs to move on from that relationship - had been her regular customer and BF. Frankly I think she was on drugs as previously she told me she had told her live in and told me he was jealous - this did not sit well with me. Lesson 1 - stay from the volatile gals who may be on drugs. A month later I met the gal who is my main squeeze at another SC. Still enjoying her.....Lesson 2 - there is always room 4 improvement in the program.

Derek
07-20-2005, 07:20 PM
Sounds like u know some acctg Kat

Derek
07-20-2005, 07:25 PM
Frankly I like DDB which is twice the SL rate. Example - Asset cost $20,000 and life = 5 yr with no residual value. 1st yr depr under DDB (twice the SL rate) = $8000, 2nd yr depr = $4800. Now Kat fill in rest of yrs: ___________ Now Kat if u r really smart give me DDB depr assuming above if $1,000 residual value.

Derek
07-20-2005, 07:29 PM
Yes I do deduct many SC costs for tax purposes - entertainment in my rare coin business - deducted my RCI VIP membership.

aggieed
07-21-2005, 06:43 AM
Hehehehe, I got that mofo banned although it was coming to him for a while!!!

Damn, what an ego. ::)

MF'er got himself banned...managed to make a copy of one of his last posts before it was removed from public view...yup...he screwed himself royally; he didn't need any help.

I'd say more, but I'm better off keeping my mouth shut...or fingers tied...or something.

evan_essence
07-21-2005, 07:06 AM
Now Kat fill in rest of yrs: ___________ Now Kat if u r really smart give me DDB depr assuming above if $1,000 residual value.I'd like you to do some accounting for me, Derek. Make a table of your posting times and dates. Then tell me precisely how you can be doing all the banging, clubbing and free lunching you're claiming to do while still working for a living and having time to post messages in the pattern you have.

Player? On the PS2 maybe.

-Ev

xdamage
07-21-2005, 08:23 AM
Ishe said "u told me u loved me" I said "yes I did" then like fatal attraction she was real pissed "who r u to just play someone like that"

Sorry, but you'll get no pats on the back from this customer for that scene. But then I also wouldn't pat a dancer on the back either for being proud of playing on a customer who was emotionally twisted.

I much prefer to keep the stripper/customer relationship straight-up business, no emotional crap, and no deceptive crap. I guess I have this (?dumbass?) belief that if you treat others fair and straight up maybe, just maybe, you'll attract others of like mind. I guess I just don't get cheap thrills out of taking advantage of people who are emotionally fucked up, and would rather not have others try to play me like that. Let's hope what goes around really does come around (mind fuck!)

Mastridonicus
07-21-2005, 08:28 AM
I much prefer to keep the stripper/customer relationship straight-up business, no emotional crap, and no deceptive crap. I guess I have this (?dumbass?) belief that if you treat others fair and straight up maybe, just maybe, you'll attract others of like mind. I guess I just don't get cheap thrills out of taking advantage of people who are emotionally fucked up, and would rather not have others try to play me like that. Let's hope what goes around really does come around (mind fuck!)

BAM!

I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't try to psych the McDonald's cashier into giving me a free burger. And I don't expect her to try to psych me into paying for a burger she doesn't intend on giving me.

Now. Minus the Burger and replace with Lapdance.

And you have my SC mentality. Pour some milk on it, and a bottle of Orange Juixce, possibly a V8, and you're set to handle the Hurricane Jenny's of the world.

::Mast::

pet_rock
07-21-2005, 08:33 AM
I am a player...

As has been pointed out before, you are NOT a player--players get it for free from girls outside of SCs. You are just a sad, lonely, middle-aged man who regales us with his tales of going to the grocery store to buy bruised fruit. Um, I mean of going to the SCs to make a conquest and get some while being able to say I love you and parading her around in public while pretending she's your GF and you're her BF.

Sadly, I actually don't doubt that you DO purchase pussy from a SC, seeing as how you like the bigger gals who are desperate for cash, but it's hard to see how you avoid the 'volatile gals' while doing this.



I walked out of the restaurant - this was over a yr ago. Started going to different clubs to move on from that relationship - had been her regular customer and BF.

WHAT??? You RAN AWAY??? Surely your VIP status would have had the management bounce HER from the club if she continued to annoy you while you continued going there. Wouldn't that have given you a much greater feeling of power?



Lesson 2 - there is always room 4 improvement in the program.

Here's a new tweak for your program, if you don't mind the desperate, illegal, Mexican gals. Start hiring them as 'maids' to clean your studly condo and take it from there! Just pray she doesn't have a mean big brother, though...

Jenny
07-21-2005, 08:35 AM
And you have my SC mentality. Pour some milk on it, and a bottle of Orange Juixce, possibly a V8, and you're set to handle the Hurricane Jenny's of the world.
::Mast::

Okay, you're using an expression, and not referring to me, right? Because if you are - how the hell did I get dragged into this? I don't even like orange juice and I have never once, ever over-charged someone. Or if I have I was drunk enough not to remember, in which case I probably wasn't overcharging - I was probably just confused.

xdamage
07-21-2005, 09:00 AM
BAM!

I couldn't have said it better myself. I don't try to psych the McDonald's cashier into giving me a free burger. And I don't expect her to try to psych me into paying for a burger she doesn't intend on giving me.



Besides it just stinks of being vengeful, spiteful, "haha, I burned her", which is not a trait I find appealing in the opposite sex either. If you can't keep the stripper/customer relationship humane and friendly, it could at least be kept neutral and business like. Nothing to be proud of when it becomes demeaning (either way).

Derek
07-21-2005, 02:22 PM
Any of u guys had a SC gal over for an allnighter? The gals usually want about $400 for this and the idea is to fuck her all nite long as stamina allows. My advice - get a gal that likes to fuck and one who is not some druggie who will conk out after the first fuck. How about u gals - how many times will u fuck during an all nighter?

xdamage
07-21-2005, 05:49 PM
Any of u guys had a SC gal over for an allnighter? The gals usually want about $400 for this and the idea is to fuck her all nite long as stamina allows. My advice - get a gal that likes to fuck and one who is not some druggie who will conk out after the first fuck.

This surprises me. I mean being such a player I expected you to say "I don't care if the bitch is awake or not " And maybe the all night girls need the drugs, you know, to keep themselves from throwing up all over their customers.

amylynnej
07-21-2005, 05:58 PM
we all know derek is full of shi% as are most guys on the blue site.

GenWar
07-21-2005, 06:18 PM
we all know derek is full of shi% as are most guys on the blue site.

Ouch. I don't know if I am more hurt by the comment or by the forced realization that I have something in common with Derek, however tenuous a connection it may be. :'(

Truth is...I'm on week 11 of the wingman's imposed break with maybe 2-3 falls off the wagon and, after much reading of the saga of Derek, I am starting to lose the faith. Could I be Derek? Does my ATF see me that way? Is it still possible to be a respectable customer? Obviously not on the pink site, but what about in reality?

Ugh. I need to go to a club. Maybe it is time for that long overdue foray to the promised land of Niagara. What weekend you free, Mast?

-gen

xdamage
07-21-2005, 06:28 PM
Ouch. I don't know if I am more hurt by the comment or by the forced realization that I have something in common with Derek, however tenuous a connection it may be. :'(

-gen

It's just words man. The only way to win some games is don't play. Do what you think is right. Don't let anyone's words drag you down into the muck.

FBR
07-21-2005, 06:45 PM
we all know derek is full of shi% as are most guys on the blue site.

IMO, Derek posts here for what he perceives as entertainment value. Not my cup of tea personally but others seem to get a perverse enjoyment out of responding to his comments ::)

As far as the blue guys being (mostly) full of shit, I don't agree with that statement at all. There is tons of mileage that goes on in clubs. Those clubs cater to the customers that want that sort of thing. At the same time there are clubs where nothing much goes on other than having a few drinks and checking out T&A. I've found the guys here to be very honest about what they do (or don't do). You can break out the broad paint brush if you want but it really doesnt apply.

FBR

KC Joe
07-21-2005, 07:36 PM
How bout we put Derek in time out along with Thorn. His comments sound like some 15 year old wanna be.

Silverback
07-21-2005, 09:03 PM
IAs far as the blue guys being (mostly) full of shit, I don't agree with that statement at all. There is tons of mileage that goes on in clubs. Those clubs cater to the customers that want that sort of thing. At the same time there are clubs where nothing much goes on other than having a few drinks and checking out T&A. I've found the guys here to be very honest about what they do (or don't do). You can break out the broad paint brush if you want but it really doesnt apply.

FBR

And, apparently guys on either extreme of that spectrum are "full of shi%":-\

Mastridonicus
07-22-2005, 12:26 AM
UnclePhil:

Ya caught me at a bad time, I'll be in Columbus here soon, then Buffalo, then possibly tampa. If you're serious about a trip to Niagara, PM me tho.

Otherwise, AmyLynne: Knock that forced grouping shit off. 'Most guys on the blue site' are the guys that make the car payment on that mercedes for you before taking their SO's out to dinner.

I know she's probably kidding about lumping us all in there, but the dancer that hates her bread and butter is getting pretty tiresome imho. I don't speak out negativly normally and find a lighter side to all topics, including derek's, I just think some serious 'Let it Go' pills are in order.

Seriously, it doesn't get to me, and she was probably kidding to some degree, but its just been frequent lately :/. What FBR, who wont acknowledge my continual proposal of clubbing, said is 100% true. Its what the GIRLS are allowing in TX that allow Dereks to exist. Its an equal fault situation here.

Seriously, Uncle Phil, lets do this.

:D

::Mast::

evan_essence
07-22-2005, 03:58 AM
Otherwise, AmyLynne: Knock that forced grouping shit off. 'Most guys on the blue site' are the guys that make the car payment on that mercedes for you before taking their SO's out to dinner.I can't speak for her, but odds are against that assumption. How many participants here do you think happen to be customers of hers? ;)


I know she's probably kidding about lumping us all in there, but the dancer that hates her bread and butter is getting pretty tiresome imho.Well, I assume she was going for a zinger, too, but even so, you're jumping to conclusions that were unstated. Just 'cause a dancer thinks most guys on the blue site are full of it, doesn't mean she feels her customers are. Maybe she has a better class of customer, ya know? :P


Its what the GIRLS are allowing in TX that allow Dereks to exist. Its an equal fault situation here.Actually, I think it's a false sense of bravado that allows the Dereks to exist. An overactive imagination may be an element as well. Nevertheless, Derek's narratives have me and women everywhere crying out, "Don't stop! Don't stop!" :-*

-Ev

xdamage
07-22-2005, 04:11 AM
I know she's probably kidding about lumping us all in there
::Mast::

So, Mast, you didn't read the memos did you? You didn't read the SCJ handbook either I see. Did you even pick one up? They are right over there by the door on your way in. Go get one. Open it. Turn to page #1, paragraph #1. See it now? The part where it says blah blah, she probably doesn't really like you, blah blah. That part. Read that again, and memorize that section. You'll thank us all later for it.

Derek
07-22-2005, 06:08 AM
we all know derek is full of shi% as are most guys on the blue site.

We pay your bills and this is what u say about us? ROFLMAO

I have heard the gals in the Dallas clubs are "more reserved" than the Houston SC gals and really resent it when the Houston gals go to Dallas as the Dallas guys really like them as we are a full 2 way contact town. Is this true Amy? Your not unloading a little competetive resentment on me here are u. I understand u know, I do not like it when the Dallas coin dealers come to the Houston shows and compete against me. Our gals here in Houston are real competetive - they are fine ladies and really good dancers. I will be going to lunch today at Heartbreakers (16' free buffet). They have really fine gals and its only $25 to go to their VIP room (luv gettin those gals on the sexy leather divans up there). To say the gals at this club give full 2 way contact dances is an understatement. I hand these gals my business card, the ones who date OTC will call. What about guys do u find gals who date OTC are more aggressive in callin u? Remember, find out what she wants then say "honey, here is what I want......."

Amy, I will be taking a table at a Dallas coin show soon, and may try to find out what the Dallas SC gals are really like. Going to a SC in a different town after a day on the bourse is a great way for me to unwind and relieve stress. While I tell it like it is here, I go out of my way to be a nice guy ITC. My point is, don't blast the customers, try to make the sale.

Mastridonicus
07-22-2005, 07:36 AM
I can't speak for her, but odds are against that assumption. How many participants here do you think happen to be customers of hers? ;)
It doesn't matter. I respect your cantor, and I am sure she's probably joking. But its not different then doctors saying they hate patients, or computer techs saying they hate end users. It happens. Duh. But its never a blanket statement, and people just get tired of hear 'All men are pigs cause I deal with them' <---Thats MY opinion :D Not directed at anyone or asking anyone to stop. Its just, when I see it, its like *sigh* whats next? A thread about how your relationship with that dancer is 'different', or maybe how to bang that stripper for 100.00, or How the DJ is a dick.

Its not invalid points, and I guess I just am hypersensitive to see it. Its just I see a good thread get going, people are really getting interested then the whole train stops with a cliche remark. And it railroads the whole thread. I'm good humored tho so it doesn't really bothering, its just an 'Awww c'monnnn'



Well, I assume she was going for a zinger, too, but even so, you're jumping to conclusions that were unstated. Just 'cause a dancer thinks most guys on the blue site are full of it, doesn't mean she feels her customers are. Maybe she has a better class of customer, ya know? :P

I never jumped to conclusions with that. As a matter of fact I said:



I know she's probably kidding about lumping us all in there, but the dancer that hates her bread and butter is getting pretty tiresome imho.


The intention being to not speak at her, but point out that she reminded me of the posts I've seen lately of dancers hating what pays them. But I know I wasn't clear. I totally understand everyone has their opinions, and I apologize if I made it sound like she was the target of that remark :D My Bad. Look, its not that I MIND being locked in the basement, its just that when the meat is thrown, the rats have the advantage of the numbers and....



Actually, I think it's a false sense of bravado that allows the Dereks to exist. An overactive imagination may be an element as well. Nevertheless, Derek's narratives have me and women everywhere crying out, "Don't stop! Don't stop!" :-*

-Ev

Kinda Right. Its like banging a dancer for 100.00. You can't have a sense of bravado about it unless somewhere there is a stripper spreading her pair of 7" money maker's for your 3" wrapped ina 100.00 bill.

Evan, you're awesome, I'm not trashing you or amylynne, I'm not aggressive at all. Cut and dry, I grow tired of seeing those phrases. Its my unattached opinion, I just feel people like Hurricane Jenny have so much intelligence to give, but when she says that she hates her clients, thats all the readers focus on and so much is lost. I'm pointing out the girls here only because the guys don't care so much. But it happened to Xdamage alot. He writes a page worth of stuff, and everyone replies on the first paragraph only. Regardless of this sounding like bitching, its not. Its incredibly interesting.


So, Mast, you didn't read the memos did you? You didn't read the SCJ handbook either I see. Did you even pick one up? They are right over there by the door on your way in. Go get one. Open it. Turn to page #1, paragraph #1. See it now? The part where it says blah blah, she probably doesn't really like you, blah blah. That part. Read that again, and memorize that section. You'll thank us all later for it.

Wait this is a memo? What is this. It's just a drawing of a....what is this? Did an Elephant draw this?

Now, if you're being serious.
I am a complete toolshed when it comes to SCs. I know this.
If the dancer I choose can make me believe #1 is untrue, by lying or not, The illusion is complete. I know Mr_Punk doesn't give a rats ass if she likes him or not. I guess I am saying that I don't care either, all I care about is she at least pretends she does. I mean you know, I'm done fighting whether or not its genuine, my favorite dancer locally makes me feel no different than my best friend does. Why do I want to make that go away by forever questioning it.

I mean say OTC, if you begin a relationship with someone, and you question it half as much, you'll ruin it, its called doubt. All I am saying is I get what I paid for, a good time with a good friend. If she's faking it, good job on her account. I would never risk insulting SOMEONE by calling them on that without good reason.

::Mast::

Mastridonicus
07-22-2005, 07:43 AM
Point in Case. Here I will highlight the comments that retract from derek's point,


We pay your bills and this is what u say about us? ROFLMAO

I have heard the gals in the Dallas clubs are "more reserved" than the Houston SC gals and really resent it when the Houston gals go to Dallas as the Dallas guys really like them as we are a full 2 way contact town. Is this true Amy? Your not unloading a little competetive resentment on me here are u. I understand u know, I do not like it when the Dallas coin dealers come to the Houston shows and compete against me. Our gals here in Houston are real competetive - they are fine ladies and really good dancers. I will be going to lunch today at Heartbreakers (16' free buffet). They have really fine gals and its only $25 to go to their VIP room (luv gettin those gals on the sexy leather divans up there). To say the gals at this club give full 2 way contact dances is an understatement. I hand these gals my business card, the ones who date OTC will call. What about guys do u find gals who date OTC are more aggressive in callin u? Remember, find out what she wants then say "honey, here is what I want......."

Amy, I will be taking a table at a Dallas coin show soon, and may try to find out what the Dallas SC gals are really like. Going to a SC in a different town after a day on the bourse is a great way for me to unwind and relieve stress. While I tell it like it is here, I go out of my way to be a nice guy ITC. My point is, don't blast the customers, try to make the sale.

I GAVE him a lot. The whole first paragraph didn't need to be there, it took away from something worth reading in the second one.

xdamage
07-22-2005, 07:56 AM
If she's faking it, good job on her account. I would never risk insulting SOMEONE by calling them on that without good reason.
::Mast::

You're a nice guy, or at least seem to be based on your posts.

I'm NOT calling you a tool (if you are, well thats up to you to figure out).

You're probably even the type of guy some women say they want, basically concerned with the feelings of others, generally looking at the positives, treat others well, etc., but unfortunately you're also a customer ;) I am not sure quite what state that leaves you in but what I can say is (this is all covered in the memos and SCJ handbook btw) be what you want to be, as long as you're not oblivious to the fact that some dancers don't like customers, not a little, not at all.

I'm not so sure they are easy to spot either, not while on the job.

But on the positive side they aren't pulling a lot of punches on this site. Overall that's a good thing. At least here we get some truth, OTC, not always pleasant stuff but I'd rather have it that way. There are plenty of smiles and BS to be had ITC.

mr_punk
07-22-2005, 08:37 AM
we all know derek is full of shi% as are most guys on the blue site.sigh...ok, which one of you guys got the cock grinder's panties all in a bunch? derek was it you?

Could I be Derek? Does my ATF see me that way? Is it still possible to be a respectable customer? Obviously not on the pink site, but what about in reality?good grief, why do you even care? strippers still accept your money, right?

I know she's probably kidding about lumping us all in there, but the dancer that hates her bread and butter is getting pretty tiresome imho.and what if she isn't kidding?

Ouch. I don't know if I am more hurt by the comment or by the forced realization that I have something in common with Derek, however tenuous a connection it may be.actually, you should be more concerned that you actually listen to flakey strippers. it amazing to watch some of you guys fall all over yourselves in apology after some stripper goes into a fit of histrionics and crocodile tears.

Not my cup of tea personally but others seem to get a perverse enjoyment out of responding to his commentsthat would be me. he's so unintentionally funny that i can't help it.

I know Mr_Punk doesn't give a rats ass if she likes him or not.frankly, the thought never crossed my mind. it's irrelevant. the money she accepts frees me from that concern and i can get down to business. i like to keep my transactions simple.

I guess I am saying that I don't care either, all I care about is she at least pretends she does.this may come as a shock, but you're really not that much different than i. except, you pay those biatches to be nice to you.

Its my unattached opinion, I just feel people like Hurricane Jenny have so much intelligence to give, but when she says that she hates her clients, thats all the readers focus on and so much is lost.did jenny say she hated her customers? i don't recall her saying that.

Jenny
07-22-2005, 08:44 AM
Evan, you're awesome, I'm not trashing you or amylynne, I'm not aggressive at all. Cut and dry, I grow tired of seeing those phrases. Its my unattached opinion, I just feel people like Hurricane Jenny have so much intelligence to give, but when she says that she hates her clients, thats all the readers focus on and so much is lost. Okay, as much as I would love to respond to this with yet another "How the hell do I get dragged into this? What are you even talking about?" and try to force you to itemize any and all postings in which I have said and/or implied that I hated my customers, I am actually leaving town for a while and I am taking the opportunity to purge myself of all internet related contention. I evidently have a serious problem and I have to learn to not argue with people. (Notice how I snuck in my response anyway - it's because I'm an evil genius. Except not evil. I'm cuddly and man-friendly, I swear to God).

Mastridonicus
07-22-2005, 08:58 AM
You're a nice guy, or at least seem to be based on your posts.

I'm NOT calling you a tool (if you are, well thats up to you to figure out).


I know. I am. :D I get frustrated when I am told that I am not in control of a situation I should be in control of. I.E. SC. But being in control by most people's definitions here means >I< wouldn't have a good time. And not being in control by how I describe it has yet to earn me financial pain or anything else assigned to that of what a dancer could do. And I guess I like not being in control by these definitions.


You're probably even the type of guy some women say they want, basically concerned with the feelings of others, generally looking at the positives, treat others well, etc.,

I used to hear 'I love you like a brother' Daily.



but unfortunately you're also a customer ;) I am not sure quite what state that leaves you in but what I can say is (this is all covered in the memos and SCJ handbook btw) be what you want to be, as long as you're not oblivious to the fact that some dancers don't like customers, not a little, not at all.

Bam! I'm not oblivious to it, I just don't care. I drew a parallel to a bad breakup I had, and I'm still friends with the girl, but when I discovered she cheated on me, she was mad that I didn't really respond. I was 17, like we where going to be together anyways, but she basically said 'You know I lied about our whole relationship, I never liked you' and listed why she did like me, which wasnt my penix size :/ but my reply was 'When I look back on 'Us' I will have 8 months of great memories that I remember feeling pretty good with, and 1 day worth of bad ones. How you felt those 8 months doesnt change how I felt, and I will remember how I felt. You have to deal with the fact that you hated helping me enjoy 'us'. I get to sit here and just enjoy us.'

One line summary: I walk into a SC saying 'I want to have a good time', 100% of the time I leave mission accomplished. Anything else, dancers thoughts, opinions, etc are all things that I don't want to scrutinize and say 'OMG She faked it' I just want to say I had a good time with a Girl I really like. I'll let her handle her side of it unless she decideds to let me in on it.



I'm not so sure they are easy to spot either, not while on the job.

You either spot it or you don't, it doesn't mean when you don't spot it its not there. It just means you found someone who makes you like her and vice versa. To dwell on it anymore is counter-productive to the whole fantasy and theme.



But on the positive side they aren't pulling a lot of punches on this site. Overall that's a good thing. At least here we get some truth, OTC, not always pleasant stuff but I'd rather have it that way. There are plenty of smiles and BS to be had ITC.

Right, I like reading about the truth, I even like looking back on my fav resting assured that she is honest with me. But as so many have said, its not a dating service, its a SC, searching for and getting the truth ultimatly means nothing. Seriously, what are you going to be besides uncomfortable and introverted once your hard work pays off and you find out you would never have a chance with her? Its not worth trying. It NEVER turns out good. Hell, even if she DID like you, beating it to death trying to find the truth is creepy at best. Thats why this board exists :D

I've always said, if things are going to get serious between you and your fav/dancer, YOU will be the first to know. Its pretty simple I am sure. And if you treat her like any other woman in this planet when she lets you know, you'll find out the truth like you're supposed to. Its like, just cause she's a dancer you wont buy her a dinner cause IT MAY MEAN SHE'S TRYING TO GET A FREE MEAL. Give me a break, if I take a Person <male/female> to dinner, regardless of occupation, I'm paying. And if it is a girl, I'm sure the man paying for dinner as it is been practiced forever, is hardly a sign of a money hungry stripper bitch.

Example:
Don't loan her money is so many's advice. I don't loan money. If I can't afford to give it out permanently, it doesn't leave my hands. If I get paid back, wonderful. If not, concider it a gift. Don't worry if you abuse it, it wont keep coming back.

Directed at Xdamage:
With much respect I want to share that my personal creedos regarding people in general allow me to be outgoing and caring for anyone, regardless of anything much less a job. People get treated equally from me because there is nothing anyone can do to me I can't recover from. Overanalyzing X hurts X. If you're in a Strip Club, treat her like a dancer, if you get her out of the club, treat her like a woman. Relative to how you treat dancers and women. Making special treatment for 'DANCERS' to somehow "protect yourself" is just tiresome and does nothing other than to show you've entered into a relationship with someone you hardly trust :D

Note, I know you didn't ask any of those things, but for sake of respecting you're awesome responses to my posts I thought I would be clear.

To onlookers and passerbys:
When I say Overnanalyzing X hurts X, thats what I mean. Overanalyzing that dancer's lapdance hurts the fantasy of future lapdances from that dancer.

*Notes on my post:
You == Person in general. No one person.
Xdamage == Cool person who gives a lot of respect in a board that can be devoid of it :D

xdamage
07-22-2005, 09:02 AM
I am actually leaving town for a while and I am taking the opportunity to purge myself of all internet related contention. I evidently have a serious problem and I have to learn to not argue with people. (Notice how I snuck in my response anyway - it's because I'm an evil genius. Except not evil. I'm cuddly and man-friendly, I swear to God).

I'll keep the fire going in the hearth and the bed warm (just in case there is going to be makeup sex, doubtful I realize, but the thermodynamicsts tell me that according to the law of entropy the fires of hell will freeze over eventually. I can be patient.). ;)

Have fun on your trip. 8)

The Snark
07-22-2005, 09:04 AM
I respect your cantor, and I am sure she's probably joking.
And how did Evan's cantor get dragged into all this? I mean, I'm sure she recites a good kaddish, but I don't see her relevance to the discussion.