View Full Version : Gals that Date Outside Club (moved from Pink)
Derek
08-01-2005, 02:13 PM
Yes strippers have husbands or boyfriends, sometimes exes they tell u there is nothing physical and u find out the guy is living there with her. It all gets back to one of my original comments here "your either in the program or not." I am in the program which means there are certain risks. Risks can be reduced but not eliminated to zero. I would say the major risks associated with dating SC gals OTC are: STD's, the gal could get PG, and Jealous SO's.
The business card I give gals at clubs including strippers has my first name, phone (cell), rare coin business info (mainly that I specialize in investment grade rare coins and currency and that I am a registered dealer with National Gold Exchange (large numismatic gold wholesaler - $20 Double Eagles, $10 Indians, $5 Indians, World Gold, etc), but no address. Because I am in the rare coin business I go to certain lengths to keep my street address off peoples radar. While this is a card I primarily give people at coin shows it serves well in another capacity - I give it to SC gals.
Although I am armed like a militia (and would have no qualms about killing someone invading my home or trying to mess with me on the street), I do not want strange visitors in the night looking to rob me. If you give out your real first name and last name on a business card in Houston they can look up where you live and on the internet find your real age. I would not recommend giving SC gals a business card with your real name on it - you just don't know whos hands it could get into and you may not want them knowing your real age. Of course, if I have a gal over to my condo she knows where I live. Married guys have to deal with the hassle of a motels or a special condo set up for project purposes. The gal I had over this last thursday, Sally - she said her BF had been convicted of a felony but that the apartment place they are moving to does not mind - I sorta wonder what it was.....since she told me that after I did her - what does it really matter? My main gal Deb, her x served some time for a felony conviction also. I ran into him when I went to pick her up at her dads (her dad is a yr younger than me) one time - we were both very cordial. Was I scared - yea of going to jail (not of him) as I was packing a piece and certainly would not to explain a dead body to the police. These guys mainly just care about the money the gal is bringing in either to relieve some of the child support pressure or buy drugs. If u meet someone like this when meeting your SC gal otc be cordial, but be prepared if things get ugly LOL.
Madcap
08-01-2005, 02:15 PM
Wednesday I was waiting for my main gal (a dancer at one of the 5 SC near me (Deb) to come over. We were going to have a "session" that afternoon - she was prob 10 min away. The phone rang - it was a stripper from another club (Sally). She said she need $60 to pay for her room at a nearby extended stay hotel and that she needed it by 10 pm. Background: I had about 2-3 dates with her ITC for drinks / lap dances (close contact) and she sure gave good dances. Sally is blonde very nice bod - an A team girl (top 1/3). I told her I was really tied up at work meeting (lie - had to fuck Deb first) and would like to help her out and would call her a little later (do I want to do 2 in one day I wondered?). I had a great sessionwith my main girl and after I had something to eat later that afternoon I called Sally. I told her point blank "honey I want to help u out but I want some pussy." She said "I understand, call me back about 5pm." At 5 pm I called her and she first of all said she needed it by 10 pm - why could I just not come over and give it to her and we could have the session the next day as her BF (surprise - did not know she had one) would be home soon. At this point guys you do not want to be pressured by their prob - so I made an excuse someone was at the door and hung up (thinking this just a scam). At 10 pm I could see she tried to call but called back next morning (thur) - she said she did not do private sessions but preferred making money at the club. I was polite about it and indicated I enjoyed dating her ITC (afterall she gave good lap dances). About 11am thur she called me saying (very urgent - u would think she was calling the fire dept LOL) she had changed her mind that it was an emergency but wanted $100 for the private session (but don't tell her BF). The $100 is a bargain and I went to pick her up (he was at work), and she was wearing a really sexy micro dress w purple thong underneath (I sorta felt up in her dress in car <girn>) w bikini top. I got her on the bed and gave her a sexy backrub to soothe her and then she was ready to go (saying that she only did it if the guy used a condom). She said she liked it on top and doggie - we did both and I got off really good in her (I always use condomns). She is blonde and tan with really fine legs and really nice ass / boobs (mid size - natural). It was so much fun fucking her (I got off like crazy with her) and this just for $100. She told me how she wanted to go back to her admin asst medical ctr job and hoped to quit dancing soon saying she loved her BF and they would be moving to Clear Lake once he got his paycheck. She is 31 and really fine looking. Told me she wants to get together again later this week (at $100) - well thats perfectly allright as my main one is coming over today around 2pm after I wrap up some coin deals. On the hilarious side as I was taking her back down I 45 to the Extended stay hotel she said "oh there's Papacitas (mex restaurant) I can tell him we went there and I did the crying fit and u being a nice guy u gave me $100 as he would go ballistic if he knew we fucked (she said she told him we were just going to lunch) ." I could not help but wonder (1) if this guy really existed (most likely so) (2) if he would believe it (3) what kinda loser sombitx would send his gal out to scam guys anyhow? (4) disgust he's getting it for free (5) feeling of intense satisfaction that I got to fuck her behind his stupid ass. Observation: she says she loves him but he's ok with her going out to try and scam strange men for chump change / beer money. Does this guy really respect her or what LOL. I would never send a woman of mine on con missions - I am a real man who can support a woman, get my drift?
Jesus Christ, dude. Hit enter every now and then.
WiseGuy_TX
08-01-2005, 03:07 PM
Observation: she says she loves him but he's ok with her going out to try and scam strange men for chump change / beer money. Does this guy really respect her or what LOL. I would never send a woman of mine on con missions - I am a real man who can support a woman, get my drift?Some of the most ironic hypocrisy i've read in a long time. Keep the stories coming "Top Gun".
Katrine
08-01-2005, 04:25 PM
Actually I'm in the market for some French angels (20 franc?) for investment purposes Derek. Do you deal in those? PM me if you want to do business, REAL business, not the business of sexiness.
amylynnej
08-01-2005, 04:56 PM
This will take me some time to respond to. reading derek's posts make me want to commit hari-kari. I'm reminded of that scene in the "airplane" movies when the main character is talking about his life and everyone around his is commiting suicide while listening to his exploits.
Im sure Derek used his 7 day vacation wisely and came up with some good bs to spew here.
Casual Observer
08-01-2005, 05:58 PM
Ah, just when we thought it was safe to surf Blue again...Derek happened.
former_LV_dancer
08-01-2005, 08:38 PM
(saying that she only did it if the guy used a condom). She said she liked it on top and doggie - we did both and I got off really good in her (I always use condomns).
I would say the major risks associated with dating SC gals OTC are: STD's, the gal could get PG, and Jealous SO's.
All those days off then 2 posts that are wishy washy:eyebrow: ......keep it straight "Top Gun". If ya ALWAYS use a condom, what's with the STD's and PG??? A hard core playa' as yourself should know how to protect yourself from those things. You are "in the program" and all........trained like a Navy Seal I assume.....
Katrine
08-01-2005, 08:49 PM
You are "in the program" and all........trained like a Navy Seal I assume.....
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Thanks for laugh, brilliant!
KC Joe
08-01-2005, 09:49 PM
Welcome back Derek. How's Thorn?
You might try typing your stories in Word, then cut and paste. Might make them more readable.
SportsWriter2
08-02-2005, 01:28 AM
If ya ALWAYS use a condom, what's with the STD's and PG???
Condoms offer little protection from genital contact STD's, most notably HPV (genital warts) and HSV-2 (herpes). If she uses an oil-based lube, it can weaken a latex condom to the point where it tears easily.
Maybe Derek learned the hard way. :O
stant
08-02-2005, 03:53 AM
Wednesday I....[lengthy blathering]
An excerpt from James Joyce's unpublished manuscript "Portrait of the Raincoater as a Middle Aged Man"?
yoda57us
08-02-2005, 06:20 AM
Condoms offer little protection from genital contact STD's, most notably HPV (genital warts) and HSV-2 (herpes). If she uses an oil-based lube, it can weaken a latex condom to the point where it tears easily.
Maybe Derek learned the hard way. :O
Good point Sporty but why would any woman possibly need lube when she's in the same bed as "Top Gun" Derek? :moped:
xdamage
08-02-2005, 06:59 AM
It all gets back to one of my original comments here "your either in the program or not."
And I was just saying how much I enjoyed your tale of debauchery without the top-gun slogans and propoganda crappola.
So just to be clear then, those who are "in the program" are the ones that are having to pay to get layed?
Derek
08-02-2005, 07:48 AM
As far as my "Navy Seal Training" for the program. A description not too far off base as my training was a tad "slippery" with lots of slides LOL. But don't leave out the thrusts because I don't only have "Navy" training (down there) but I am also a rocket man. When it comes time to blast off I want all the control panel lights on green. A babe that can give me a "green board" is gonna take me to orbit.
The closest club to me (just 7 min away) is Sugars Plaza (used to be Ricks South). A really super club where gals have done well with the older business crowd and lots of NASA engineers coming in at happy hour. Rumor has it a lot of the gals landed posh NASA admin jobs via guys they met at the club. I go there a lot for lunch to visit an ATF (known her for 2yr). So being so close to NASA the VIP guys at the club like me sorta have a cocky "top gun" outlook.
Next door to the club is Suburban Suites, a super extended stay hotel (super place to get a room to meet a girl too). A great place for a player to meet dancers for OTC activities ewg. Many of the gals live there as they are newly divorced / moved to Houston trying to get their bearings in the Clear Lake Area. A friend of mine "Mick" stayed there during his divorce separation and says "hell the gals I met at the pool or laundry room kept me so busy I did not have time to go to Ricks."
A gal I had last Thur lives there and after coming over to see me for a session (a fine looking blond (shes told me that guys shes done have come in their pants before they made it to the bed LOL), really nice lady, and does she give me a "green board" - she dances at another club 10 min further down I 45), said "I am going back and will buy a six pack and lay out." I had fucked hell outta her for about 25 - 30 min and she seemed like she had enough (it rally rang her bell though) - I got the impression she is more used to quick comers. So don't hit on her at the pool guys - I've already worn her out! Plus she has a BF - don't think the worthless bum got any that nite though - LOL.
One question to u gals: I am not going to ask u if u do OTC but (1) if doing it how long do u expect to fuck the guy and (2) do a lot of them not last long at all? (3) How long would u like a guy to go - 5min, 15 min, 30 min, 45min? A number of the gals I do wanna fuck after my sexy backrub (along with sexy story) and then sometimes they need some TLC on the front (boob, clit stimulation). What would u think the reason(s) for divergence? Ladies I am interested in your thoughts.
evan_essence
08-02-2005, 08:02 AM
Background: I had about 2-3 dates with her ITC for drinks / lap dances (close contact) and she sure gave good dances."Date" - It's not just a euphemism for OTC prostitution anymore!
Sally is blonde very nice bod - an A team girl (top 1/3).Man, this grade inflation (A = top 1/3) has got to stop. I remember the days when you had to be in the top 10 percent.
Perhaps he means this A Team (http://www.great-tv-shows.com/ateam/main.html)?
-Ev
evan_essence
08-02-2005, 08:16 AM
How long would u like a guy to go - 5min, 15 min, 30 min, 45min?The following sounds good to me.
shes told me that guys shes done have come in their pants before they made it to the bed LOL
-Ev
Derek
08-02-2005, 10:39 AM
Condoms offer little protection from genital contact STD's, most notably HPV (genital warts) and HSV-2 (herpes). If she uses an oil-based lube, it can weaken a latex condom to the point where it tears easily.
Maybe Derek learned the hard way. :O
Thats a scary thought. Frankly I think Strippers are cleaner than some horny ol gal u would meet in a singles bar who will go home with the first guy that buys her drinks. A lot of those babes do unprotected sex devil may care. Any opinions on this? What do u SC ladies think - I think you are safer - don't u agree? Do u make yer guys use condoms? I always use condoms.
Clark
08-02-2005, 02:21 PM
Your average stripper, probably yes. One that does customers for $100, much less likely.
Katrine
08-02-2005, 03:15 PM
Thats a scary thought. Frankly I think Strippers are cleaner than some horny ol gal u would meet in a singles bar who will go home with the first guy that buys her drinks.
I dunno man, wouldn't make those kind of assumptions.
One question to u gals: I am not going to ask u if u do OTC but (1) if doing it how long do u expect to fuck the guy and (2) do a lot of them not last long at all? (3) How long would u like a guy to go - 5min, 15 min, 30 min, 45min?
(1) Until he comes
(2) They usually spurt quickly unless they popped a viagra (I'm still mad at the bastard for that one!)
(3)I want it to be over pretty quickly, unless I'm hammered, in which case I don't care so much.
A number of the gals I do wanna fuck after my sexy backrub (along with sexy story) and then sometimes they need some TLC on the front (boob, clit stimulation). What would u think the reason(s) for divergence? Ladies I am interested in your thoughts.
Ummmm, because women aren't automatons, and all like different things. Its like guys, some like blow jobs better, some like the sex better. Is that concept really beyond your grasp?
Do your sexy stories involve double-anal gangbangs?}:D
Derek
08-02-2005, 05:35 PM
Katrine thanks for the info. I did my main gal this afternoon- Deb and she says we usually go about 30 min. She gets me off good and loves where she does it on top facing me (love the view too plus playing with her boobs while she fucks me is fun) which I think is a great way to fuck. This other one I do, Sally likes me on top or doggie style.
My sexy stories involve swinger situations, romance at the lake, or stuff about the Oneida community - and this during backrubs. My gals like the backrubs and can hardly wait to get in bed for a backrub - like an excited kid on xmas day I strip off my clothes to get next to them so I can rub their back, tell them a sexy story, and really feel them - and these gals r strippers - wow! Then when it looks like I will be doing the front or fucking, I slip on a trojan saying to them "gotta put on my fun thing."
Derek
08-02-2005, 05:40 PM
BTW I asked Deb what % of gals at her club date guys OTC like for fucking. She said 85-90% was her estimation based on what the girls told her. This is one of the 5 clubs near me, a really nice upscale place. The gals can leave at anytime as long as there are at least 6 available to dance. Like if there are 10 gals checked in then a gal could leave to go with a guy to a motel. Disbelieve me if u want, but this what a real stripper has told me. I am not saying this is true at all clubs but here in Houston it gets hot......
amylynnej
08-02-2005, 07:22 PM
coughbscough
100% fabrication.
"welcome to fantasy island" - mr. rourke
SportsWriter2
08-02-2005, 08:33 PM
The gals can leave at anytime as long as there are at least 6 available to dance. Like if there are 10 gals checked in then a gal could leave to go with a guy to a motel. Disbelieve me if u want, but this what a real stripper has told me.
I know two metro Providence clubs with this policy, but you have to pay the tipout first. I once took a dancer out of a club to the beach. She had a bikini on, so she just grabbed her sports bag. :)
Derek
08-03-2005, 05:57 AM
I know two metro Providence clubs with this policy, but you have to pay the tipout first. I once took a dancer out of a club to the beach. She had a bikini on, so she just grabbed her sports bag. :)
Heck I would Skip the beach (other guys mite try to hit on her there) - I would take her directly to a motel and do a photo shoot first and then fuck her. I have several CD's of photo shoots like this I have done with dancers prior to doing them. The gals loves this as I add $50 to the price of the session for the photo shoot (they love to model). Its a great two way synergy as u get some neat photos, increased excitement, etc.
evan_essence
08-03-2005, 06:53 AM
I have several CD's of photo shoots like this I have done with dancers prior to doing them. The gals loves this as I add $50 to the price of the session for the photo shoot (they love to model).Gawd, please tell me they're keeping their clothes on during this alleged photo shoot. If not, we're talking $50 in exchange for the potential of their nude photos being distributed a billion times on the Internet. That's a real smart deal on their part. I really need to have a talk with your girls about intellectual property management. $100 to f*ck one time in private I can stomach as a recoverable error in business judgment, but $50 to lose control over your image for the rest of your life, Just Say No.
-Ev
SportsWriter2
08-03-2005, 07:26 AM
I really need to have a talk with your girls about intellectual property management. $100 to f*ck one time in private I can stomach as a recoverable error in business judgment, but $50 to lose control over your image for the rest of your life, Just Say No.
You're right, Ev. When I created SportsWriter, one of my rules was never to take pictures and to WARN dancers about nude pictures. But they GIVE them to you. I had a cute dancer ask me to drip hot candle wax on her and videotape it ("cuz I trust you"). She gave me a picture of herself in a little G spread eagled on a BMW hood.
I have no doubt that a Derekoid can do this. It's not always about money; sometimes it's about satisfying her inner freak. ::)
SportsWriter2
08-03-2005, 07:58 AM
Frankly I think Strippers are cleaner than some horny ol gal u would meet in a singles bar who will go home with the first guy that buys her drinks. A lot of those babes do unprotected sex devil may care. Any opinions on this?
I have no opinion. Yesterday a dancer told me she gave a guy head OTC for $500 "and he wore a condom. Why would he want to do THAT?" ::)
miabella
08-03-2005, 10:01 AM
i'm just floored at the budget a rare coin dealer has for 100-250$ sex apparently several times a day. i can't see how it's cheaper than a GF, or a harem. although it is impressive in a weird way. i mean, a guy can spend what he likes buying sex, but for all derek's talk about cheapness, it rings a bit hollow considering how often he whips out those 100s. i am truly surprised he finds the time to earn all this money dealing in rare coins between having sex, doing photo shoots, and going to clubs most of the day. although golly, if the rare coin field is that lucrative, i rather want to get into it.
Derek
08-03-2005, 11:22 AM
The dancers love to do the photo shoots - its an extra $50. I take photos of them in bikinis or sexy lingerie so I won't get flack from Walgreens developing dept but some of the gals say nudes ok but no sex scenes. Makes me wonder what they were trying to get developed LOL. Anyhow I have a new digital camera and will be taking nude photos along with the other. Luke (another VIP Topgun player at the same club I have my VIP status) tells me I am too generous on the photo shoots as he makes them do it for free if they want to keep coming to his beach house for more sessions. We usually meet once a week (Top Gun Academy LOL) for coffee with some of the other Top Guns and compare notes on the girls, etc. He has done about 15 SC gals in the last 18 mo and is currently working on an 18 yr old dancer "that pussy is gonna be tight - I am gonna really fuck her, she won't be able to walk when I get thru with her (4 or 5 guys at our table laughing)". What about some of u guys - is $50 too much to pay for a photo shoot at a private session? I don't mind giving them extra money and find when I am getting pussy for $100 from one of these gals they love that $50 bonus.
Another item - When it is mother nature time I do not want to fuck them - some of my friends like Luke don't mind "hell whats a little menstrual blood." What do u folks think - should a guy make clear to the gal early on his policy? I find most women don't wanna do it during this time anyhow so it probably is a moot issue.
I keep my frig stocked with all kinds of beer, wine, juices, and drinks a gal mite like so when they hang with me a little before sex thay have something refreshing. Not too long ago I watched a video of love story with one while she drank a coupla of beers. After the movie we fucked like crazy. I even keep feminine napkins in the bathroom. My main gal Deb keeps some of her clothes at my condo hanging up in the closet - marking her territory? Another time I got to watch her shave her pussy (I keep a bag of the walgreens plastic razors on hand) and then fuck her. My main point - make them feel comfy and at home. Luke has become an expert on keeping foam on hand (there are 2 major types he says) as many of the ones he has over at his beach condo he does without condoms.
Well gotta go - its $5 dance day at DRX and I am starving for that free lunch.
yoda57us
08-03-2005, 04:33 PM
Any girl dumb enough to screw "Luke" without a condom would be dumb enough to let him take her pictures for free. On the other hand, Maybe "Luke" gets the girls to pose for free because he has a bigger Light Saber than Derek does......
amylynnej
08-03-2005, 05:05 PM
I will refrain from commenting at this time. But trust me derek isnt getting what he says he is.
It may be getting close
FBR
SportsWriter2
08-03-2005, 05:52 PM
I take photos of them in bikinis or sexy lingerie so I won't get flack from Walgreens developing dept but some of the gals say nudes ok but no sex scenes.... Anyhow I have a new digital camera and will be taking nude photos along with the other. Luke (another VIP Topgun player at the same club I have my VIP status) tells me I am too generous on the photo shoots as he makes them do it for free if they want to keep coming to his beach house for more sessions.
Derek, you're not exactly Top Gun riding the digital camera wave. Luke is right: the only payment you give them is a set of JPG files via e-mail. If they want money, tell them to send their files to the Hustler Beaver Hunt. ::)
Derek
08-03-2005, 06:06 PM
I will refrain from commenting at this time. But trust me derek isnt getting what he says he is.
Go ahead and trust her guys - in another forum she refers to all SC customers as losers. Check it out for yourselves. Go read her posts - I have found it interesting reading in what a lot of them think. It has made even more determined not to give dancers handouts or loans. Even Luke has been shocked with some of my attitudes on this. But the reality is their problems and needs for money are their responsibility not mine. All I care about is when do we meet for the upcoming session and how much. Make them perform on your terms - you guys have the money so be the boss!
Loser or not and based on my above posts I have been having a real good time with my OTC activities and believe me my reports are true and objective! I am surprised in starting this forum there has been so much hostility sort of like offense players don't hang with defense players huh? The personal attacks made on me are made by people who are losing here.
amylynnej
08-03-2005, 06:12 PM
Keep dreamimg Derek. Thats all you have are dreams.
I dont consider all custys to be losers but certainly the ones that your friends are. You have no clue what people really think about you. You may be a big hero to the guys on blue but in the grand scheme of things, youre not.
Im done with you. Be gone.
amylynnej
08-03-2005, 06:21 PM
They dont do it here. LOL
And if girls are having sex with you for money than they need to be charged, jailed, fined and have their pics posted on the front page of the houston chronicle with their real names, where they go to school, their home and cell numbers and home address so people will know who they are.
They make the classy sexy girls like myself look bad.
But then this is your fantasy right Derek. Or Luke. Or Thorn. LOL
WiseGuy_TX
08-03-2005, 06:50 PM
Derek, as much time as you have spent on the strip club scene. Prior to posting on SCJ or SW, tell us about your forum postings elsewhere. Did you get the same response? Surely there are other strip club forums you have posted to over the years.
yoda57us
08-03-2005, 07:03 PM
Would you please explain this comment to me - I thought this was blue not pink.
And btw if folks have a right to come in here and trash me I should have a right to have at em.
And when it becomes a mutual trashing thread (aka: a waste of bandwidth) the padlock comes out....I can almost hear FBR jingling his jailers key ring....