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Lubellle
07-16-2005, 08:36 AM
Hello! Just wondering if anyone's ever danced by webcam over the internet for paying customers? If so, how does it work? How do you find clients out there or how do they find you? Do you need to go buy an expensive website from a company that makes them? Which is the preference, live or by webcam?

Thanks very much!

cinammonkisses
07-16-2005, 08:39 AM
I heard that the webcam business hype is longgggg over doll. Think about how many women have webcams now-a-days! It's not profitable. IMO

Pretty_Penny
07-16-2005, 08:48 AM
i know a few girls who used to do it, but there are too many free or nearly free "camwhores" sites to make any money off of it. i think in order to make money off of it now you'd at least have to do soft core porn or masturbation type stuff.

Melonie
07-16-2005, 10:05 AM
Besides the 'camwhores' issue affecting income potential, there is now also the huge issue of the US Section 2257 law to consider. Under the provisions of this law which is due to take effect 100% in September, any producers of 'live' material i.e. a Webcam video stream, will be required by law to post their real name, real address and real age on their opening webcam page as proof that they are over the age of 18.

I used to do a lot of webcam, as my 'attributes' allowed me to appeal to big boob fetish fans such that the 'camwhores' didn't affect my income potential all that much. Even so, I have quit doing webcam altogether plus I have taken down my pay website to avoid having to disclose personal information to comply with the Section 2257 law. There is NO WAY that I am going to advertise my real name and real address on the internet so that I can be 'easy prey' for stalkers and perverts.

dlabtot
07-16-2005, 10:19 AM
Besides the 'camwhores' issue affecting income potential, there is now also the huge issue of the US Section 2257 law to consider. Under the provisions of this law which is due to take effect 100% in September, any producers of 'live' material i.e. a Webcam video stream, will be required by law to post their real name, real address and real age on their opening webcam page as proof that they are over the age of 18.


That isn't true.

Here is the relevant section of 2257:


(e)(1) Any person to whom subsection (a) applies shall cause to
be affixed to every copy of any matter described in paragraph (1)
of subsection (a) of this section, in such manner and in such form
as the Attorney General shall by regulations prescribe, a statement
describing where the records required by this section with respect
to all performers depicted in that copy of the matter may be
located.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/ts_search.pl?title=18&sec=2257


As you can see, the law does not require posting "their real name, real address and real age on their opening webcam page as proof that they are over the age of 18"

rather, you must post a notice of where there compliance records are kept. Just like the 'Custodian of Record' notice you see on any porn.

hotSeraphina69
07-16-2005, 11:35 AM
I worked as a web cam hostess for a year.I made alot of $$$$. You start off in a free chat session where people can see what you look like ,than you describe what you'd like them to watch you do in a live sesssion . You will have to masturbate though and use a remote for close-ups if you want to get and keep regular customers .I had 3 keyboards for three seperate men and each was being charged for live(which I got 70%) plus I got paid 13$ an hour . You get to be in your own private room ,play whatever music you choose and some of the men(mostly regulars ) evan give you money gifts through pay-pal ,but it is true that now there are many girls doing it for free . Myself,I got sick of doing it.

Melonie
07-17-2005, 06:39 AM
dlabtot, you are WRONG about Webcam, because unlike posted pictures on websites Webcam content is a LIVE production, meaning that the webcam girl herself is considered to be the 'producer' of the live material (i.e. no photographer involved).


"Special Cases: Streaming Live Feeds and Foreign Content

Explicit streaming video and live feeds are almost certainly among the kinds of material generically described as "other matter" in the Statute. Therefore, the producer of explicit feeds must in every respect comply with the provisions of Section 2257. Special practical difficulties arise that are distinctive to live feeds with respect to a location for the mandated disclosure statement and for the name or number of the work. The information acquisition and record keeping must go on continuously. Because an approved method of compliance is described neither in the Statute nor in either the existing nor proposed Regulations, the scheme of compliance for those who produce such feeds should be designed in close consultation with a lawyer and a technical expert, and provide for notice all the way through to the destination subscriber. "

Destination subscriber where webcams are concerned of course refers to webcam customers. Notice of course refers to the girl's real name, real address and real age.

from

With a Section 2257 charge being a felony sex crime, and with legal fees for federal court running into the tens of thousands of dollars even if eventually acquitted, please make absolutely certain that you aren't providing incorrect information on this subject.
~

Lubellle
07-17-2005, 10:33 AM
Thanks very much ladies for your responses. I really only was considering stripping on the net, nothing else extra. I will stick with stripping in clubs. Besides, why would men pay to see naked women on the net when they could see them live?!

Pamela
07-17-2005, 11:51 AM
18 U.S.C. Section 2257 Compliance Notice

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All chat hosts, models, actors, actresses and other persons that appear in any visual depiction of actual sexually explicit conduct appearing or otherwise contained in this Website were over the age of eighteen years at the time of the creation of such depictions.

All other visual depictions displayed on this Website are exempt from the provision of 18 U.S.C. section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. 75 because said visual depictions do not consist of depictions of conduct as specifically listed in 18 U.S.C section 2256 (2) (A) through (D), but are merely depictions of non-sexually explicit nudity, or are depictions of simulated sexual conduct, or are otherwise exempt because the visual depictions were created prior to July 3, 1995.

With respect to all visual depictions displayed on this website, whether of actual sexually explicit conduct, simulated sexual content or otherwise, all persons in said visual depictions were at least 18 years of age when said visual depictions were created.

This site merely provides a platform for adults to communicate and does not control or dictate the conduct of chat host. For those static images placed on the site by chat hosts as well as for general age verification, the owners of this site maintain model releases complying with applicable federal regulations. The custodian of records for all such releases is:

D. M. Bergant
18914 Muskoka Ave.
Cleveland, Ohio 44119

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The original records required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. section 2257 and 28 C.F.R. 75 for additional licensed materials contained in the website are kept by the following Custodian of Records:

Mike Jones
L&M Enterprises
5010 Greenwood Rd.
Woodstock, IL. 60098


You could easily request ALL info. needed from these ladies!

Pamela