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erotictonic
07-25-2005, 06:27 AM
yea we had pimps come in my home club. i said " i am not DOWN with that" and they left me alone. so be it. if they are smart enough to talk people into that shit, what in the world are we creating? why doesn't anyone care about their daughters?

Mr.B
07-25-2005, 07:56 AM
Allow me to be the devil’s advocate on this one. }:D

The term “pimp” is indeed generalized as a negative figure in the sex industry. I do not discount many of the things that have been said about how some of these men abuse their women, but in an industry that is already painted with a negative brush, there always will be what some people call the “bottom-feeders”. The media has played a large role in what the general public views as pimps and some of the young (and not so young) men who get into pimpin’ have grasped those negative behaviours with both hands and inadvertently make the image a nasty reality.

Now with that said, I personally have seen some guys who have taken a different road with what would be called pimpin’ and have created a positive, drug-free, non-violent environment for some of these women who work with them. This new breed of "manager" does not classify themselves as pimps who control or degrade, but instead makes sure that the women in their business come out better off than they started. I watched one lady who was struggling with bills and an abusive boyfriend join one of these ventures, work her way up the ranks, is now retired from the sex industry and is currently a manager at an offshore bank! She credits her “pimp” as being the one who changed her outlook and helped her to get out of the hole she was in – Apparently all of her credit card bills were paid off when she joined up with him, she was given her own bank account that was managed by an accountant (who also acted as her financial advisor), her “pimp” gave her a nice condo and even "got rid" of her abusive boyfriend. She isn’t the only one in that guy’s organization who made it out of the “system” either. He has built these ladies up so well that he now has a mini-empire. That’s a perfect example of moving up in life. No drugs, no abuse, no exploitation – just a positive business plan that benefits everyone involved. How’s that for a different perspective on pimpin’?

Yes, there are lowlifes in any biz who will take advantage, but it is left to the discretion of each woman who they choose to follow. (Don’t take that as an excuse for some of these fake ass pimps out there, ‘cause shit happens to the best of people sometimes.) Just be careful of making generalizations which paint everyone who claims a certain title with the same brush. I just had to give my personal example, because of all the negative things said so far. While a lot of the bad stuff is true, I believe things are changing for the better, slowly but surely. With all of the negative comments made in this topic, someone who might have a chance to improve themselves may instantly pass off a "pimp's call" as some cheap attempt to exploit them. As with anything, it's a matter of simply being careful and doing your research.

All in all though, couldn’t the manager of an SC be loosely termed as a pimp? He/She is taking a percentage of each ladies earnings…something to think about.

TnT
07-25-2005, 08:30 AM
Years ago I had some punk kid try talking to me about how he could "help me save my $" and I could go shopping, live in a nice place with some other girls he is "helping"
yada, yada,yada....mind you this was all before he had tipped or bought a dance....bleh.

I turned to him and chuckled "I can't believe you are sitting here trying to turn me out ! "

He acted all shocked. It was comical really.

I proceded to tell him " if I wanted to turn tricks I didn't need "managment" but thanks anyway" (heavy sarcasm) then I said "wanna dance"

you can guess what his answer was, lol !

Mr.B
07-25-2005, 08:52 AM
Years ago I had some punk kid try talking to me about how he could "help me save my $" and I could go shopping, live in a nice place with some other girls he is "helping"
yada, yada,yada....mind you this was all before he had tipped or bought a dance....bleh.

I turned to him and chuckled "I can't believe you are sitting here trying to turn me out ! "

He acted all shocked. It was comical really.

I proceded to tell him " if I wanted to turn tricks I didn't need "managment" but thanks anyway" (heavy sarcasm) then I said "wanna dance"

you can guess what his answer was, lol !

You bring up a good point. You will have to separate the men from the boys.

Anyone who tries to actively recruit you on your job without compensating accordingly is not only disrespecting you, but the owner of the SC as well. The recruiters that I know of will often buy out a dancer's nights over the course of a week or more (depending on her perceived potential) just to get her attention for an interview, with no formal expectations. It is totally up to her to show up.

Outside business is discussed exclusively OTC.

TnT
07-25-2005, 09:22 AM
Oh I know, he was a ridiculous little boy. I laughed at him.

After I left the table I told the bouncer about it too.

snowy_chic
09-08-2005, 02:18 AM
When I worked in Tampa I remember this going on back in '96! The guys that drive the "pimped" cars back then weren't just like MTV'S "Pimp My Ride"! They had the newest Vettes, macked out BMW's, etc. They drop the girls off and pick them up. The girls report their earnings on a regular basis and the girls meet them outside to hand over the cash. This one girl from Mons back in the day thought the pimp got her the job there and he ccould get her fired - like she couldn't get the job on her own! I don't understand how girls fall into that. In MI they have "agents" that do get you into clubs w/ benefits but the club pays the agent to bring you there and he gets a % by how many days/wk you work. Anyway, yes.....sad but true there are pimps in clubs especially around Tampa and the clubs do everything they can to stop it. They can't babysit everyone, though!

NinaDaisy
09-08-2005, 02:44 AM
I think a lot of times I was pretty naive for a stripper. I never knew where to get drugs (didn't do them) and I think it's only in retrospect that I knew girls were getting pimped.

There were a few at my first club in Baltimore, at least one in Alaska, a couple in New Orleans and a few even at PEC. I heard from several girls that one of the managers at Hustler in Baltimore would pimp out his girlfriend after-hours.

Mostly these are naive girls with low self-esteem. I'm sure that even a few of the smarter ones might even do it for kicks (I know a girl from a wealthy family who is a high-end escort even though she doesn't need the money) but typically the situation is very sad, with these men using violence, drugs and verbal abuse to keep the girls in line.

They are scum. No doubt in my mind.

Alexis81
09-08-2005, 04:38 AM
I never had any idea of pimps in a SC until I moved to Florida and witnessed it first hand. I rented a house from a girl who a week after we moved in, she let her best friend move in with us (I didn't sign a lease which was a really bad call on my part). The best friend was a raging alcoholic who just got out of an abusive relationship. Within a week of moving in she had a new "boyfriend". He moved in with us and took over her car. She started working all the time and her boyfriend sat around the house all day watching TV. He then took her money that didn't go towards bills or rent and spent it on himself. My fiance and I ended up getting our own place because the situation there was getting out of control. I took a few months off work to have a baby and when I went back in July the boyfriend was back in the club, trying to recruit new dancers to support him. I had girls who worked there awhile actually tell me he used to come in a couple times a week to find girls to pimp out. The funniest thing was he actually tried to recruit me. He asked me if I was really happy with my man and he could take such good care of me and I would never have to worry about money again. Uh hello I witnessed what you do first hand...

I just do not understand how a woman could allow herself to be controlled like that. I was sitting at another club one day (Ponytails in Tampa) and all the girls were talking about how they just hand over their money to their men when they get home from work. I admit I was curious so I asked them why they did that, and the general response was because my man told me so. The DJ then looked at me in shock and said you keep your own money. "Yes, I keep my own money, I have my own bank accounts, and my fiance gives ME his paycheck at the end of the week I take out what we need for bills and savings and give the rest back to him to do what he wishes, I do this because he's bad with money" -- does that make me a pimp ? :)

Bunny
09-08-2005, 05:24 AM
I now am remembering a girl that was a stripper my bf knew who would come home and her "boyfriend" would bitch at her about how she only made so much money that day and "bitch, go back and make more!" I swear that sounds more like a pimp to me than a boyfriend. And he said she'd just be like "okay." It'll be a cold day in hell before I turn my money over to anyone that I work hard for!

LilSweetVixen
09-08-2005, 07:08 PM
What the hell, I am having a major problem understanding how someone can hand someone all their money and keep working unless they're hooked on drugs or scared to leave.

I knew of one girl who was turned out and I met the pimp. He was a scrawny little guy in jeans and I never in a million years would have believed he was a pimp but for the fact that she was sort of a zombie. She would stay after hours and would only go by his rules not the manager or housemom or anyone. She was nice and not that stupid. I seriously don't think she gave him all the money, just a percentage. But then again she was always high. This is such a depressing ass thread. :-\

LionHeart
09-08-2005, 09:14 PM
Any girl who works 9 hour days 7 days a week and then hands that money over to a guy is an idiot.


Amen to that !

Pimps are as Clark put it, scum . There are few lifeforms lower than a pimp.

threlayer
09-08-2005, 10:47 PM
Pimps are lower than crackwhores but not as low as pedophiles. That's pretty low. But there's one class even lower than that.


Politicians.

kitana
09-08-2005, 11:23 PM
^^^ ROLF!


I agree with everyone here though, pimps are sad pathetic little creatures. I think one of the girls I work with is getting "pimped" but I wouldn't know what to say to her to change it, or how to even approach her about it in the first place.