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xdamage
11-02-2005, 10:00 PM
of course he's never seen the bells and whistles it takes to perform onstage, including the whorishly heavy makeup required for the bright lights.

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I don't want to have children......ever.

Without meaning to be disrespectful of your parents, I don't approve of how he reacted towards you. I can understand it and relate to the feelings behind it, but going as far as disowning you (which I think you said in another thread) is cruel. I don't honestly know how I'd react, I'd hope better, but I just don't know, so I am not implying I'm better than your dad. I didn't expect to feel as protective as I do about my own daughter. It's instinct and runs deep. Despite any shit I may talk on line, when it comes down to it face to face I treat women with respect, but I'm also a guy and I know what fuckers we have the potential to be towards women. The thought of some john or asshole in a club mistreating her, well it doesn't sit well with me and brings up a lot of strong emotions.

However when it comes to your own kids... it's far more good than bad and it was all surreal to me until I saw my daughter (and later my son) for the first times. After that there was no question I can't imagine my life without them.

Katrine
11-03-2005, 04:35 PM
Without meaning to be disrespectful of your parents, I don't approve of how he reacted towards you.

8) Haha, me neither. But its all good. He has a horrible temper and that's the type of behavior he has always exhibited to everyone, a bit on the BPD side, definately bipolar, and 100% certifiably crazy drunk Ukrainian asshole.....

I'm just like him too, except for the penis and mustache. :-[

But its all good now, I love my family, even though we didn't choose each other.

**(no, he did NOT molest me, EVER!)

xdamage
11-03-2005, 10:38 PM
8) Haha, me neither. But its all good. He has a horrible temper and that's the type of behavior he has always exhibited to everyone, a bit on the BPD side, definately bipolar, and 100% certifiably crazy drunk Ukrainian asshole.....


I have a parent too that is a complete psycho, bipolar or bpd nut job (some of both maybe, hard for me to be objective when it comes to my own parents), and downright fucking mean, but fortunately my other parent is the exact opposite. One out of two isn't bad I guess :-\



I'm just like him too, except for the penis and mustache. :-[


After half a bottle of bourbon, and I'm feeling well numbed, I'm able to reconsider mine a little more honestly, even the parts that I'd rather not deal with, and I'm starting to think I really don't like mine all that much. I don't recall too much to like. :'(


**(no, he did NOT molest me, EVER!)

That's good. I'd like to believe that's the norm, that most dads are like me, and the idea of harming our daughters in that way is repugnant. Quite the opposite, we are worried about the other assholes on the planet who are trying to do so. I sleep better at night believing she is safe now, and on track to a safe, healthy, happy life ahead. Of course for all I know she might be living some wild dangerous life style I am completely oblivious too. Wanting her to be safe and sound is what I have to so I can sleep at night. What she actually does? Up to her, it's her life to do with as she will.

yoda57us
11-04-2005, 06:34 AM
I haven't seen my father more than six times in the last 30 years - since I turned eighteen. Even before that the relationship was so barely functional I don't think it qualified for dysfunctional. Fortunately, as in many cases, my Mom more than made up for the parenting skills that my dad had no clue about.
You can learn something from any situation-including growing up with a moron for a parent. Heredity is certainly a big part of who we are but every thing that happens to us along the way effects the way we look at ourselves and the way we treat other people-parents, spouses, SO's, kids, and yes, even exotic dancers.
I think I've done a much better job of being there for my daughter than my dad did for me. Still, there are things I can't control, decisions she will have to make and, since she's an independent pain in the ass-like me-she will probably make many of them on her own without asking for advice. I wouldn't want it any other way.

vegasbebe
11-04-2005, 06:13 PM
Hmm. This is funny. Whenever a customer gets really out of line with me, I say "Would you want someone to treat your daughter or your sister that way?" I don't know if it actually makes them think twice about molesting dancers or not, but that's the idea.

Okay, not to throw my personal shit out there, but my dad knows I'm a stripper. I know he is dissapointed and thinks I have a drinking problem and am on drugs. (I'm not on drugs, and I don't drink too much. I did once cuss out my evil stepmother on the phone when I was wasted, though. but I would have done it sober too, just with less colorful language.)

And, honestly, if my dad would have helped me out with money for rent and stuff during college, I would never have gotten into this profession.

I'm not sorry I'm in it, but sometimes I sigh and wonder "what if...."

Hmmm..

yoda57us
11-04-2005, 06:29 PM
Hmm. This is funny. Whenever a customer gets really out of line with me, I say "Would you want someone to treat your daughter or your sister that way?" I don't know if it actually makes them think twice about molesting dancers or not, but that's the idea.


Does it work? In my mind at least, if you have to say it at all they either don't have a sister or a daughter or just don't give a flying hoot. The fact that I was raised by a single mother and my only child is a female definitely has had an impact on the way I treat all women.

mr_punk
11-04-2005, 08:42 PM
Hmm. This is funny. Whenever a customer gets really out of line with me, I say "Would you want someone to treat your daughter or your sister that way?" I don't know if it actually makes them think twice about molesting dancers or not, but that's the idea.that kind of social engineering in a sc only works on biggest of PLs.

girlnew156
11-04-2005, 09:45 PM
Still, there are things I can't control, decisions she will have to make and, since she's an independent pain in the ass-like me-she will probably make many of them on her own without asking for advice. I wouldn't want it any other way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got three daughters, right now.
Age? Under 10. Right now, peace and innocence, or shall I say, ignorance.
I know it's coming, I know it's coming.
It will eventually get here. When they become the rebellious enfant terrible
I was.

Damn, must be the genes, you think?

Oh, well, like my mama said, payback's a bitch.

xdamage
11-05-2005, 05:39 AM
When it comes to your own kids, well they only have a couple of parents in life, and our relationship with them has nothing to do with how you treat the other sex. I'm sure not going to try to adhere to some ruleset where I have to treat all women the way I treat my daughter or vice versa. I treat my daughter like a parent; other women I treat like women or girls depending on their age and behavior.

As far as the guys who 'molest' dancers. They are either dense, drunk, or just don't give a shit, so that line will probably only work on the PLs who are mommas boys.

yoda57us
11-05-2005, 03:15 PM
I'm sure not going to try to adhere to some ruleset where I have to treat all women the way I treat my daughter or vice versa.


Certainly not, and that wasn't my implication. My only point is that my environment, my family and my experiences with females close to my heart effects the way I look at all women.