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Ohlala
12-09-2005, 07:46 PM
detroitdiva22

If you don't mind sharing, can I ask what dosage you were taking and where you got it from... There are so many posts about 25mg and ECA. I just want an idea of what worked for who, so I can make my own decision.

I know I'm healthy, get a yearly check up, more thorough than most lab rats because I use to have an ED. Anyways, I have checked out balanced and aftermath free for 2 years and would just like a kicker to help me get through this plato I have reached.

So I would like to know what you took to loose 30lbs, and then I can determine what would be too much for me cause I'm not sure I want to loose that much.

ChgoSteve
12-09-2005, 09:26 PM
I would say be careful with that. It raises your heartbeat to burn calories. My friend took ripped fuel for a few months and had to take medications to lower his blood pressure.

I had a similar issue. normally my BP was around 125/60. I was on ripped fuel, 4 pills a day, and my BP was 150/72. And I was in great shape. Just be careful when using.

TigersMilk
12-09-2005, 09:52 PM
^^ Thats the reason for cycling. Taking it for a few months consecutively can hurt anyone. My plan is 4 weeks on 1 week off. At the end of 4 weeks Ill see how I feel. I already feel great. Im going to stop drinking loads of coffee with it as I get SUPER jittery.

ChgoSteve
12-10-2005, 07:37 PM
I did about 4 week cycles too. I took it until it affected my sleeping. I lost 10lbs in 8 weeks.

I am trying to something similar right now. But lose 12-15 over 12 weeks. I will only take one or two ripped fuels per day this time. Wish me luck. ;)

Tart
12-10-2005, 08:27 PM
i took vioxx and loved the shit out of it. Im saddened there is nothing that works as good out there because I do live in constant pain from years of ballet and just life. and thanks to running i now have shin splints.

Back to the ephedra... here in Indiana anything with it ( like cold pills etc. ) i have to sign and show my id to purchase.

IS this like it anywhere else?

Insane shit ..fucking meth heads , I saw some guy today arguing about having to show his id..once he did he was denied cold pills because he had bought 4 boxes already this week. Not sure what the limit is but apparently he was well over it. and you could tell he was very much tweaking.

ChgoSteve
12-10-2005, 10:52 PM
I have heard of people taking caffiene and asprin to lose weight but nothing about what you were talking about. That is some scary stuff.

icechic
12-11-2005, 11:09 AM
I've taken epedrine plus 200 mg of caffeine on and off for about six months. I did a lot of research before I took it so I could do it the way many fitness fanatics did and it worked great for me. They say to take it 2x daily on an empty stomach, and wait 45 minutes before eating a healthy small meal. I lost weight, had tons of energy for the gym, and my body was in the best shape ever. Sometimes on it though, you don't feel like eating, which ends up giving me a stomach ache by the end of the day. As long as you're careful with it though, you should be fine. Most deaths related to ephedrine were from people who abused it.

Ohlala
12-12-2005, 05:44 AM
Where did you buy ripped fuel..the post I found said it was banded..or ephedra fee?

Ohlala
12-12-2005, 05:47 AM
http://www.befit.ca/rippedfuel.html

Is this the same stuff??? It doesn't say ephedra anywhere? But it's so sold in canada so I'm asuming there isn't any in it.

Alpha_Male
12-12-2005, 06:30 AM
I ordered the Vassapo today. Should get it sometime this week. So, I am correct in reading that this product does NOT have ECA stack?
VasoPro pills contain 25mg of Ephedrine HCL, nothing else except guaifenesin, so you would also need to buy caffeine pills (usually come in 200mg pills) and asprin (I think they're like 225mg pills) to make the ECA stack.

Alpha_Male
12-12-2005, 06:41 AM
http://www.befit.ca/rippedfuel.html

Is this the same stuff??? It doesn't say ephedra anywhere? But it's so sold in canada so I'm asuming there isn't any in it.
Thats not the same Ripped Fuel, its the non ephedra version. Ephedra is legal to sell again because a judge over turned the ruling in some state. Due to previous lawsuits, not all the manufacturers are hurrying to get back in that market. There are a few places that have starting selling ephedra based fat burners again, but I would avoid taking them. It's much cheaper and better to built your own stack. Ephedrine HCL was never banned and its a safer and more effective than ephedra. Just check out the ingrediants in the old Ephedra products, like Ripped Fuel, and build your own stack. They are all sold individually around the internet.

Alpha_Male
12-12-2005, 06:44 AM
Alpha Male where would I buy caffeine online. I have been going to GNC and they don't have any pure.
Ebony, you can find it at:
www.bulknutrition.com
www.nutraplanet.com
Both are very reliable places and typically have my order to me in ~3 days.

TigersMilk
12-12-2005, 06:38 PM
Just an update: Ive been taking it and the only side effect Ive been having is dryness in my nose. I just keep drinking more water. Plus my cravings for crap has down down alot. Im not sure if Ill take caffiene with mine. I had a cup of coffee and took it then my heart was thumping alot and I was hot just sitting in my cold house. A lil too much for me. Maybe a low dose of caffiene will help.

shwankie
12-12-2005, 06:42 PM
ttp://www.ephedraenergy.com/

This is where I get mine. I, incidentally, have thyroid problems caused by adrenal issues that make it very, very difficult to lose weight. I also, fortunately, have a good wholistic doctor who is willing to work with me on these things. He monitors my usage of ephedra carefully, and I take 20mg a day. It's worked *great* for me, and my blood pressure is fine. I don't stack it with anything, though I do have the occasional cup of coffee.

I had liposuction this summer to reduce my hips. They took 4 lbs, which took me from 120 to 116. With the ephedra, I am now back down to a healthy 105 (I am only 5 ft. tall, so this is a good weight for me), still maintaining reasonable eating and excersize habits. It was the kick I needed--no amount of good eating and excersize moved me an inch or a pound before I started taking it.

I agree with other posters, being careful and not abusing is the key to any medication, prescription or OTC.

JustJayda
12-12-2005, 06:47 PM
I personally take Stacker3. I buy all my stuff at www.thatswholesale.com they have pretty much all the old Ephedra drugs that many folks used before the ban.

Rbcaul
12-13-2005, 05:11 PM
Alpha male, about the caffeine, what are the names of good caffeine, is it pill form? I am looking on those websites you mentioned it but dont really know what to look for.....Then I need to see if I can find those products in Australia. Your posts are very helpful.

Alpha_Male
12-14-2005, 07:55 AM
Alpha male, about the caffeine, what are the names of good caffeine, is it pill form? I am looking on those websites you mentioned it but dont really know what to look for.....Then I need to see if I can find those products in Australia. Your posts are very helpful.
Rbcaul, the caffeine I take is in pill form, typically 200mg. It's all pretty much the same stuff. There isn't one you're going to find that is better than another. The only thing you can really base selection on is quality/purity. Here is a link on bb.com that tells you a little more about it and gives you several brands to choose from. I like Primaforce, CNS, and Prolab. I'm pretty sure bb.com will ship to AUS, but I'm not 100% positive. If you rather buy in a store, any pure caffeine pills you can find should be fine.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/caffeine.html

Rbcaul
12-15-2005, 01:34 AM
Rbcaul, the caffeine I take is in pill form, typically 200mg. It's all pretty much the same stuff. There isn't one you're going to find that is better than another. The only thing you can really base selection on is quality/purity.

Alpha -We have all heard of NoDoz, is that OK do you think? We dont seem to have as much variety as in the USA :-\ . This seems to be the only brand I can get!!
Im thinking maybe its not suitable. Im hoping to make my own stack without spending lots of money on importing from USA. Is NoDoz straight caffeine? The only detail I can find is 100mg caffeine per pill.

Alpha_Male
12-15-2005, 07:04 AM
Alpha -We have all heard of NoDoz, is that OK do you think? We dont seem to have as much variety as in the USA :-\ . This seems to be the only brand I can get!!
Im thinking maybe its not suitable. Im hoping to make my own stack without spending lots of money on importing from USA. Is NoDoz straight caffeine? The only detail I can find is 100mg caffeine per pill.[/FONT]
NoDoz is pure caffeine, nothing else, so it should be fine to take with ephedrine. I checked the web to see the mg count, the only size I saw was 200mg, so they might come in both 100mg and 200mg sizes. Just to be safe, always start E & C in smaller amounts just to test your tolerance and reactions. So probably 12.5mg of Ephedrine and 100mg of caffeine to start. The pills should be scored so they're easier to split in two.

Rbcaul
12-15-2005, 11:21 AM
NoDoz is pure caffeine, nothing else, so it should be fine to take with ephedrine. I checked the web to see the mg count, the only size I saw was 200mg, so they might come in both 100mg and 200mg sizes. Just to be safe, always start E & C in smaller amounts just to test your tolerance and reactions. So probably 12.5mg of Ephedrine and 100mg of caffeine to start. The pills should be scored so they're easier to split in two.

Great thanx for that!! Well when I lived in USA up till two years ago I took pro-lab thermo pro regularly so Im cool 8) with it...but considering the 2 year gap, youre right If I can make my own stack(pending being able to get the ephedrine ;) ) I will split it and make a mini stack!! I dont want to be like the energizer bunny on speed ;D

MysteriousDestiny
12-15-2005, 11:45 AM
So, I've been doing an ECA stack for about a week now, using ephedrine 25mg (plus 200mg guaifenesin per pill...I should probably just get pure ephedrine online, but it's so easy to just pick it up at the gas station), and aspirin 81mg, four or five times a day (I don't take any caffeine with it, because I drink so much caffeine anyway). Its been working really well...lost about 4 pounds so far, and I haven't had any time to work out lately, so I figure that must be the stack at work ;D . However, I seem to have gotten one fairly unpleasant side effect, and, like the weight-loss, I don't have anything else going on that I can attribute it to. Be warned, this is one of those ladies-only, waaay too much information kind of questions...
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I've recently been told that my...how to put this delicately...vaginal fluids have taken on a chemical, "detergent-y" flavor. I don't use any feminine cleansers or anything, I'm not on any medications (other than the stack), and I'm absolutely sure that I don't have any kind of infection or std. Apparently this just started a few days ago, after I had been on ECA for a day or two. I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this, and, if so, if you found any way to lessen this "side effect", and how long it took for this to go away after you went off the stack. If you'd rather PM me than post, feel free.

kitana
12-15-2005, 01:40 PM
I used to take the stack, and now if I start it again, I will cut it in half.

More like this:

12.5mg ephedra
100mg caffine
100mg asprin

And I'll only take it once a day. When I took the whole sized amounts, I only took it once a day and got great results. But I did have the jitterys, and the fast besting heart.

Hopefully this cut in half will reduce that some. If not I'll just have to quit taking it at all.

I do cycle stuff like this every month, so it won't be a all the time thing.

BlondeLocks
12-15-2005, 01:56 PM
I've been doing some research on diet pills and I actually just ordered Anorex...I believe it is the same thing as Leptopril...i think it contains ephedra...I know many people are against it but I think it's worth a shot as long as I follow the directions

onlythebest
12-15-2005, 04:53 PM
Here $aph:

http://www.evitamins.com/product.asp?pid=1862

Alpha_Male
12-16-2005, 07:08 AM
I just checked out Anorex's ingrediants. There was nothing really in it that "stood out" and from what I saw, it doesn't have any ephedra. It looks like the approach they took is to raise your basic metabolic rate through stimulating T3. They also threw in some mood/energy elevators and some choline which has shown some evidence decreasing fat storages. Overall, its a much safer option than ECA, but in my opinion, not as effective.

Rbcaul
01-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Well I got my ephedra online just recently and Im glad I had it for Christmas/New Years!

I take the stack (with 25mg ephedra) once a day, 5am, and I work out at 6am.

Definitely most effective if taken on an empty stomach. So I eat a little at about 5.20am. I usually still feel it even later in the day so I dont take anymore.

I really only like to take it before working out, and that is pretty much 6 days a week.

TigersMilk
01-11-2006, 12:20 AM
Update:
still a fatty as you can tell from my ticker.
I have to wait 1-2 hours after I take the pill to calm down or else my heart rate will pumel over 200bpm.
So I stopped taking them...they also make me sweat buckets. Then sweat *ahem* more down there.

Im going back to my other diet pills and CLA. wish me luck

Gee yippe I lost a pound though. :(

MulattoKitten
01-11-2006, 11:43 AM
I thought Ephedra was legal here now, the US that is.