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SBM4Latinaz
09-05-2005, 11:41 PM
And not for the money? Dude, there are people who teach because they like it, or raise Wiemeraners, but there are no strippers who would not take more money over less given the option.

Depends , I've had jobs that I have quit to take another job for less money for the simple reason that I'd rather be happy .
now to some they would think I was crazy but I would say it was to keep from going crazy.
I said that to say that if I feel that way I'm sure there are some dancers that feel the same way .
I've had many dancers tell me just as much , and I think atleast a few were honest .
when I quit my first high paying 9-5 job it was because I HATED getting up in the mourning I HATED the people I worked with and I HATED my boss now when I put in my 2 weeks notice my boss offered me a raise but I still went back to bouncing my exwife was pissed but I was free of the stress. I guess its like mom said "not all money is good money" . besides I was making more than enough to pay my bill's bouncing . and maybe one of the reasons I guess I like hole in the walls better is maybe the money bouncers tend to get paid better in hole in the walls be it strip clubs or reguler bars .
point is if I have to spend 8 hours someplace I want it to be a place I'm comfortable .

kitana
09-06-2005, 07:48 AM
well we all must get in where we fit in . It sounds like you are in it ONLY for the money .
and thats your choice . Their are enough dancers out there who do it because they like it .

Silly boy, we all do this only for the MONEY! If you really don't think that, you are deluded.



because the H.I.W's are filled with dancers that used to work at upscale clubs , but did'nt save their money while they were making it and looked up and were 30 and having to drop down a level or two and work at one of the clubs they used to look down on .

That's bullshit. You are being steriotypical in your assesments.



business 101 , 2 ways to make money volume or markup .
montgomery wards chose mark up , walmart chose volume.

Yes that's true, but since when can you buy Prada at Wally world?

doc-catfish
09-06-2005, 09:36 AM
Shopping for adult entertainment isn't any different than shopping for any other service.

I want the best amount of "mileage" my money can afford me. Similarly, the ladies here want the most amount of money for the least amount of "mileage" that they have to give. "Mileage" being a very subjective term of course, as customers have a range of preferences in their SC experiences that can't always be quantified in terms of "more" or "less". Dancers similarly have a range of tolerances of what they will put up with. But for each of us, its pretty much a mathematical equation.

For said reason, I don't think we can pidgeonhole clubs into three (or five, or ten) nice and neat categories, and start making silly generalizations about them and the people who work in or frequent them. God knows that I've seen fuglies in upscale clubs, and total hotties working in shacks.

JumbliesMan
09-06-2005, 01:08 PM
I prefer somewhere between Upscale and Middle of the Road.

madmaxine
09-06-2005, 01:38 PM
Not to sound conceited, but I am always a top "cute" dancer in MOR clubs- I'm not beyond my prime, just for whatever reasons, I am doing better at MOR than High End/ Big Box.
Not all non-High End clubs are full of wash-ups. Some MOR clubs have great reps & histories, have regulars, or have better legal standing (grandfathered in to local law, full liquor license, etc.) so a dancer can fare better in the long run becoming part of a good club's scene.

SBM4Latinaz
09-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Not to sound conceited, but I am always a top "cute" dancer in MOR clubs- I'm not beyond my prime, just for whatever reasons, I am doing better at MOR than High End/ Big Box.
Not all non-High End clubs are full of wash-ups. Some MOR clubs have great reps & histories, have regulars, or have better legal standing (grandfathered in to local law, full liquor license, etc.) so a dancer can fare better in the long run becoming part of a good club's scene.

I dont think anyone here will say that the standards of apearance are etced in stone.
these are all just rules of thumb . every hole in the wall has a few hot chics and every upscale has a few ugly chics (usually a friend of someone who knows the owner/manager etc etc ...).
so I hope this thread does not offend you .

SBM4Latinaz
09-06-2005, 08:31 PM
Silly boy, we all do this only for the MONEY! If you really don't think that, you are deluded.

hhhmmm so your saying that there are no dancers that actually like dancing ?


That's bullshit. You are being steriotypical in your assesments.


hhmmm is'nt it a stereotype that all dancers do it for the money ? you blaze me for promoting a stereotype then you call me deluded for not believing another stereotype? please make up your mind .

BTW: I happen to have known a woman who was a trust fund baby who at the age of 23 had a gastric bypass , you see she was very overweight all the way through highschool and most of her child hood.
Well after she lost the weight she started going out more , one night at a club in akron ohio called bedrocks (a normal club) a man aproached her and asked if she was a dancer she said no but was shocked to be mistaken for a stripper (because she was fat most of her life and being a size 4 was new to her) but out of curiousity she visited a club and most of the custumers thought she was a dancer she liked the attention and asked for a job there (I was a bouncer there thats how i met her).
she never hustled guys for money (because she had her own money came from a rich family) and she danced for guys not based on how much they were spending but if she thought they were cute or cool, in other words she was the coolest dancers I ever met . she didnt dance for the hustle she dances because she likes the attention.
on slow nights she would show custumers her BEFORE pictures. you see she used to be over 300lbs . at the time I met her she was 5ft9 and about 120lbs soaking wet with change in her pocket.

And I know about 4 other dancers who fall into the same catagory , but I admit they are few and far between .
one is a hot 40 year old who owns her own buisiness and does it for the attention (she did it the first time on a dare and got hooked)
The rest I know are trust fund babies like the first .

FONDL
09-07-2005, 08:00 AM
This is a tough question to answer. In general I prefer the local titty-bar kind of place - it's usually friendlier, reasonably priced, and is the most fun. But the kind of dancer I prefer (young, attractive and intelligent) is sometimes hard to find in such places because they all seem to want to work at the more upscale clubs, which I don't care for. The upscale places tend to be the most expensive and the least friendly. I wish more young, intelligent and attractive dancers would realize that you can often make a lot of money in the local titty-bars, and that there's often a whole lot less hastle from management. Tip-outs and house fees are usually a lot lower too so you get to keep more.

Bridgette
09-07-2005, 10:14 AM
Fondl, the reason the young intelligent girls like to work the upscale places is, generally speaking, even though earnings potential may be great at the titty bars, it's usually better (and requiring less contact) at the upscale places. The girls will put up with higher fees and more managerial bullshit if there's more money to be made. And obviously, the guys who like those girls will spend the money to see them in the upscale places so they don't feel the need to work where the customers may prefer to hang out :P

I guess I like any type of club as long as 1) the money's good, 2) the bullshit factor is reasonably low and 3) the expected contact levels are within my comfort zone. I tend to prefer fewer dress code / music / creative restrictions and lower bullshit factor so I gravitate toward clubs with looser rules in these areas, which eliminates most upscale places. My current club really is the best of all worlds for me - contact is medium I'm good with, no schedule, no music / costume restrictions, no mandatory stage (and no extra fee for skipping), reasonable payouts, a widely mixed clientele and good consistent money.

I tend to stay away from the hole in the wall places because money usually isn't as good or consistent there as in the middle or upper scale places.

Susan Wayward
09-07-2005, 10:33 AM
You know, in some areas the only clubs are holes-in-the-wall, and in that case you'll find all types working there. Case in point, the club I worked in Indiana was the only one in probably a 50 mile radius. Hence there were both hotties and questionable dancers there. In Columbus, there are more than 20 clubs and you therefore have more of a certain type of dancer in one club than you do in another. It's only in cities with a lot of clubs where you find this stratification of showbars/clubs/dives.

I prefer middle of the road, too, since you get the widest clientele there, but have worked everything from the jukebox HITWs to the giant big boxes in Dallas. It's all about what fits you as a customer or dancer.

Bridgette
09-07-2005, 11:08 AM
well we all must get in where we fit in . It sounds like you are in it ONLY for the money .
and thats your choice . Their are enough dancers out there who do it because they like it .

Why on earth would anyone do this job and NOT want to maximize her income? We go where we make the most money, usually, because it would be stupid not to. We have such limited potential careerspans it just doesn't make sense to just do this for the fun and not try to make as much $ as we can. geeeez!

The hot dancers who could work the upscale places but choose MOR or HIW because they make more money in those clubs, are usually in that situation because they don't have the sales skills to make it at the upscale places (they probably won't admit this tho ;)). It takes more SALES skills to excel where all the girls are hot. If you're one of only a few hotties in the joint, you don't have to know how to sell to make money because the custies will come to you. THAT's why you find a few hotties in what's otherwise crappy clubs. Not because they prefer a "friendly" place so much they're willing to take a paycut, or the overall earning potential is better in MORs and HIWs - it's not. There's always more money potential in nicer clubs - the girls just have to be able to sell enough to get it.

I've seen some MORs that had comparable earnings potential to some upscale places (when comparing averages over a month, and this varies geographically), but HIW can never compete with a good MOR or upscale club as far as DANCER earnings go.

Furthermore, the travelling custies still tend to spend more in a whack than locals, and at nicer clubs there's usually more travellers than locals, so if you were to do the same comparison at a nicer club as you did at your home club, guess what: You'd find the most money is spent by TRAVELLERS in those clubs. By far. And since travellers tend to spend more in general, it follows that there's generally more money to be made in nicer clubs.

After reading your 20 or so posts in this thread, we most certainly get that you prefer your MOR and HIW clubs. Ok. We have all got the point - at least 10 posts ago.

Oh yeah, about the guys buying expensive drinks. I know the clubowners love those guys, but they don't always spend on the GIRLS, which is why the GIRLS don't always like to spend time with them. If the owner wants to schmooze some guy who's buying $20 shots but not tipping or buying dances, let the OWNER schmooze him - he's usually just trying to LOOK like a high roller anyway but not into paying the girls. The girls need to make their money and they'll usually do better with the guy in the corner sipping bottled water. I realize you may not know this, but with experience, WE do.

SBM4Latinaz
09-07-2005, 02:30 PM
Why on earth would anyone do this job and NOT want to maximize her income? We go where we make the most money, usually, because it would be stupid not to. We have such limited potential careerspans it just doesn't make sense to just do this for the fun and not try to make as much $ as we can. geeeez!


ok in my last post I gave an example of to cool dancer's who liked their job I wont repost it because it was a long post but its on page 4 i believe .



The hot dancers who could work the upscale places but choose MOR or HIW because they make more money in those clubs, are usually in that situation because they don't have the sales skills to make it at the upscale places (they probably won't admit this tho ).

or they could just not be into fake snobby corprate types , who knows ,I dont always assume someone is lying to me .


Not because they prefer a "friendly" place so much they're willing to take a paycut, or the overall earning potential is better in MORs and HIWs - it's not. There's always more money potential in nicer clubs - the girls just have to be able to sell enough to get it.

again , just because YOU feel that way does not mean all dancers feel that way. to every rule there is an exeption .
and trust me you can tell the difference . in fact some of you dancers on this thread and others have talked about dancers that drink, hang out with custumers after work at denny's, have all their boyfriend and all his buddies showing up at the club.

and while I'm on it I have worked in upscales before (hated it they made me wear a tux) and saw all the same things going on just to a larger scale . and I was a day time DJ, the so called better managment would ask me to keep certain girls on stage longer (hotter girls) which I feel was unfair to the girl since at this club the dancers made less money on stage so it was like punishing the hot girl and factoring in the five stage rotation I felt sorry for them . but the managers logic was if you keep the hot girls on stage longer the custy'z would drink more at the bar waiting for her to get back to the floor thus the club sold more drinks .


I've seen some MORs that had comparable earnings potential to some upscale places (when comparing averages over a month, and this varies geographically), but HIW can never compete with a good MOR or upscale club as far as DANCER earnings go.


again that depends on the dancer . I've seen dancers go from one lapdance to the next .
plus you should read my review of "peep n tom's" it is a whole in the wall but its also the favorite spot of all the local drug dealers pimps and gangbangers , and they spend hundred's on stage .
I used to date a mulato dancer there that would come home with at least a grand a night .


Furthermore, the travelling custies still tend to spend more in a whack than locals, and at nicer clubs there's usually more travellers than locals, so if you were to do the same comparison at a nicer club as you did at your home club, guess what: You'd find the most money is spent by TRAVELLERS in those clubs. By far. And since travellers tend to spend more in general, it follows that there's generally more money to be made in nicer clubs.


actually it was a mid sized club , and yes I did state that intowers spent more money at one time . but we were talking monthly average . but thats because intowners and corprates were there on certain times while locals and blue collar were there everyday .


After reading your 20 or so posts in this thread, we most certainly get that you prefer your MOR and HIW clubs. Ok. We have all got the point - at least 10 posts ago.






lol I'm sure you got it on the first post .

VenusGoddess
09-07-2005, 04:18 PM
because the H.I.W's are filled with dancers that used to work at upscale clubs , but did'nt save their money while they were making it and looked up and were 30 and having to drop down a level or two and work at one of the clubs they used to look down on .

I find this funny. I'm now 31, but was 30 when I was dancing...I didn't leave because I was "too old". In fact, I did better, monetarily wise, than a lot of the 20-somethings did. In fact, I LOOKED better than some of the 20 year olds. I found that at the HITW clubs, it was full of 18 year old girls who were just kind of cracked out. They were constantly smoking pot in the dressing room and sitting around having bitch fests...there were constant dressing room fights. *sigh* I was so glad to get out of there...

But, maybe you THINK that the girls who work at some of these HITW clubs LOOK 30, but they're really much younger. In order to get in at the upscale clubs, you need to take care of yourself. In my experience, the girls I worked with, at the HITW clubs would never make it into the upscale clubs because they just didn't take care of themselves. The guys didn't go there because the girls were hot...they went there because of the extras that went around rampantly.

Tina
09-07-2005, 04:47 PM
You know, in some areas the only clubs are holes-in-the-wall, and in that case you'll find all types working there. Case in point, the club I worked in Indiana was the only one in probably a 50 mile radius. Hence there were both hotties and questionable dancers there. In Columbus, there are more than 20 clubs and you therefore have more of a certain type of dancer in one club than you do in another. It's only in cities with a lot of clubs where you find this stratification of showbars/clubs/dives.

I learned this working bookings in small towns. In larger metro area like Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, or Miami which have a lot of clubs, the better looking girls and customers will only go to clubs that fit a certain "image", whereas in places like South Dakota or Montana, where clubs are spread out over large geographical areas, and in small towns, girls may work in clubs that would be classified as hole in the walls if the same building were located in the above mentioned cities. Likewise, money spending customers, who live in the country, and who patronize the modest looking clubs at home, wouldn't set foot in a club looking like that in a major city.

kitana
09-07-2005, 05:10 PM
ok in my last post I gave an example of to cool dancer's who liked their job I wont repost it because it was a long post but its on page 4 i believe .

I never said I don't like my job, it's just I'm doning this as a job; not happy time social hour. And I am sure that there are VERY VERY few girls who are trust fund babies that subject themselves to our job.




again that depends on the dancer . I've seen dancers go from one lapdance to the next .
plus you should read my review of "peep n tom's" it is a whole in the wall but its also the favorite spot of all the local drug dealers pimps and gangbangers , and they spend hundred's on stage .
I used to date a mulato dancer there that would come home with at least a grand a night .

Yes, ok but what did she have to do for that grand? I'll tell you. She had to put her LIFE at risk. Now that's what I call real smart.

You can say whatever you want about any club you choose. But the FACTS are that girls at Big Box and MOR clubs make more money. Plain and simple. I don't see girls over at the local HIW clear $500+ a night every night. Maybe once in a blue moon, but not every night. The thing about being a bigger classier club, is the draw. You get a name and a rep. So more people come to check it out. The same way hundreds of thousands of people go to see a giant hole in the earth every year. (Grand Canyon) So they can say they went, and had fun. And from a custys POV, that's really all tha matters; FUN.

NadiaRX
09-07-2005, 05:27 PM
I found that at the HITW clubs, it was full of 18 year old girls who were just kind of cracked out. They were constantly smoking pot in the dressing room and sitting around having bitch fests...there were constant dressing room fights. *sigh* I was so glad to get out of there...



But, maybe you THINK that the girls who work at some of these HITW clubs LOOK 30, but they're really much younger. In order to get in at the upscale clubs, you need to take care of yourself. In my experience, the girls I worked with, at the HITW clubs would never make it into the upscale clubs because they just didn't take care of themselves. The guys didn't go there because the girls were hot...they went there because of the extras that went around rampantly.

Everybody has to start someplace. It would been wonderful if I had started my career at an upscale club. Would have incurred less physical and mental damage along the way. Well, least of all I survivied, took better care of myself and made it out of there. No more HTW for me ever again. I'm definitely too old for that now.

Bridgette
09-07-2005, 05:45 PM
SBM: OMG dude. I'm 32 and I've done better since I was 28 or so than I ever did in my early 20s. I hope 30 isn't the washed-up age for strippers, cuz if so - nobody tell my customers! :P (and yes I tell my real age at work)

It's a fact there are more girls in the 25-35 age range in upscale clubs than any other age group. These are the girls who've taken good care of themselves in order to maintain great appearance, and who have the experience, confidence and SALES SKILLS to make the money in the better clubs.

I've worked a whole lot of clubs (more than I am years old) in alot of states. Including TX. All kinds of clubs from dives to upscale, and everything in between. Generally speaking, it is TRUE that the hot girls who choose MOR and HIW clubs over upscale because they make better money in MOR and HIW, simply lack the sales skills to make the money in upscale. They may SAY it's because they "don't like snobby corporate types" ::) but the reality is, they just don't know how to deal with white collars. Most of us probably don't really like those types personally - they're kinda stuffy in comparison to most dancers' attitudes - we just learn how to deal with them for the $$.

In all your vast experience, don't you know most strippers bullshit their customers or at least exaggerate/downplay the truth to make them look better? lol

If you don't think we all try to make as much as we can, whether we like our jobs or not, you're really deluded. No one works just for the fun of it. No one. Everyone who works wants to make as much as they can in their comfort zone.

The girls who sit around drinking and partying with custies instead of selling them dances are also the ones who lack sales skills. They get into the party mode because it's more fun than asking several guys for dances and being told no 5 times before getting one yes. Trust me, if these girls JUST wanted to party, they wouldn't be paying a club housefees and going through all the bullshit of working for that. They can spend alot less money and hassle to party at a regular club or bar - they choose to go to work because they want to make money.

From what I've read here, you might know a couple things about strip clubs and strippers, but you're no expert. You just think you are and keep repeating and inundating the thread with the same lines, despite others pointing out varying facts and experiences. Bouncers don't get all the inside scoop with us girls either, ya know ;) :P

SBM4Latinaz
09-07-2005, 07:02 PM
SBM: OMG dude. I'm 32 and I've done better since I was 28 or so than I ever did in my early 20s. I hope 30 isn't the washed-up age for strippers, cuz if so - nobody tell my customers! (and yes I tell my real age at work)

I never said any age was a washed up age , no rules are set in stone , one of my faves is a 40+ year old asian.



I've worked a whole lot of clubs (more than I am years old) in alot of states. Including TX. All kinds of clubs from dives to upscale, and everything in between. Generally speaking, it is TRUE that the hot girls who choose MOR and HIW clubs over upscale because they make better money in MOR and HIW, simply lack the sales skills to make the money in upscale. They may SAY it's because they "don't like snobby corporate types" but the reality is, they just don't know how to deal with white collars. Most of us probably don't really like those types personally - they're kinda stuffy in comparison to most dancers' attitudes - we just learn how to deal with them for the $$.

again law of averages , I have quit jobs that paid alot more money to go back to working a at clubs , why?
not because I was'nt good at the job , but because I didnt like the job . To me thats more important , and I I feel that way I'm sure in a world as large as this I'm not alone in my thoughts. And I'm big enough to admit I'm in the minority , if my house was not paid for I might have a different view on things , but to me its worth it to have a job I enjoy than to make lots of money I'vr donr both .


In all your vast experience, don't you know most strippers bullshit their customers or at least exaggerate/downplay the truth to make them look better? lol


yes I have learned that , though I dont view it as a dancer trait , I view it as a human trait .
most people play themselves up .


The girls who sit around drinking and partying with custies instead of selling them dances are also the ones who lack sales skills. They get into the party mode because it's more fun than asking several guys for dances and being told no 5 times before getting one yes. Trust me, if these girls JUST wanted to party, they wouldn't be paying a club housefees and going through all the bullshit of working for that. They can spend alot less money and hassle to party at a regular club or bar - they choose to go to work because they want to make money.

hhhmmm how many reguler club's let you walk around toples ? I do know a few attention seekers , like the trust fund baby I mentioned in a previous post . they are rare but they are out there.


From what I've read here, you might know a couple things about strip clubs and strippers, but you're no expert. You just think you are and keep repeating and inundating the thread with the same lines, despite others pointing out varying facts and experiences. Bouncers don't get all the inside scoop with us girls either, ya know

oohhh nooooo , I never claimed to be an expert , that would requier me to visit every club in every city in the world.
no I just use examples from my past to show that not all people think alike .
you do whats best for you and what suits your personality , and I do the same .
but in passing I will say that even though I am not a religous man I find it interesting that in every religion and every culture GREED is considered an evil trait even in hedonistic cultures that worshiped fertility gods(boy I wish I lived in such a culture)..... just food for thought .

Bridgette
09-07-2005, 07:52 PM
My club lets girls walk around topless. The girls who do it are usually just too lazy to bother with a top - they don't like putting it on and off so many times between custies. It's not an exhibitionist thing, just a don't-wanna-expend-the-effort thing.

I realize there are RARE exceptions like the trust fund baby who just wants to get her strip on for the fun - but that's not really a case of someone working, because she doesn't have to work. The rest of us schmucks have to work for a living and prefer to do the best we can. Surely you can admit that a girl who ONLY does this job for fun is NOT the average.

Trying to maximize income in a volatile and unpredictible industry doesn't make one greedy. It makes one smart. A person is greedy when he/she resorts to negative or destructive behaviour in pursuit of the dollar, not just trying to get what they can within normal boundaries.

Casual Observer
09-07-2005, 07:55 PM
It's a fact there are more girls in the 25-35 age range in upscale clubs than any other age group. These are the girls who've taken good care of themselves in order to maintain great appearance, and who have the experience, confidence and SALES SKILLS to make the money in the better clubs.

Amen. My favorite regular dancers, with one exception, are all over 28 years of age. One of them is 34. The younger girls don't really know how to be around men in the SC environment, they have less life experience, they don't take what they're doing or why I'm there seriously and it shows. It's frequently quite irritating.


From what I've read here, you might know a couple things about strip clubs and strippers, but you're no expert. You just think you are and keep repeating and inundating the thread with the same lines, despite others pointing out varying facts and experiences.

Amen.

<S> B


SBM--I can't even read your posts, they're so rife with gratuitous grammar and spelling errors. Not trying to be a prick about it, but it hurts my brain to attempt to decypher what you're trying to say. Work on your delivery, dude.

SBM4Latinaz
09-07-2005, 08:13 PM
SBM--I can't even read your posts, they're so rife with gratuitous grammar and spelling errors. Not trying to be a prick about it, but it hurts my brain to attempt to decypher what you're trying to say. Work on your delivery, dude.

like I said in a previous post , I know my spelling and grammer suck , many of my friends cant believe my writing and my speech are controlled by the same brain.
meaning I speak alot better than I write , but I cant help it the english language is full of words that are spelled so much
differently than they sound .
My theory is that maybe that was not always the case , I've heard old english spoken on the learning channel and it sounds like another language alltogether .
My second language is spanish , I write in spanish better than in english but the difference is that everything in spanish is spelled EXACTLY the way it sounds .

threlayer
09-08-2005, 06:44 PM
In EACH CASE you dancer age and looks descriptions are not at all what goes on in any of the places I've been in. The rest of your descriptions are somewhat more accurate. I believe you are describing your own stereotypes,not what is actually out there.

SBM4Latinaz
09-08-2005, 07:11 PM
In EACH CASE you dancer age and looks descriptions are not at all what goes on in any of the places I've been in. The rest of your descriptions are somewhat more accurate. I believe you are describing your own stereotypes,not what is actually out there.

hey I try not to use stereotypes I can only go by what I've seen .
plus when i use those terms most people know what I'm talking about .
there are exeptions to every rule but in my area it holds true for the most part .

and at my favoret hole in the wall most of the dancers are older and I remember them from the upscale clubs back in the 80's .

LionHeart
09-08-2005, 09:26 PM
I like upscale to work in for several reasons:

IT’s CLEAN.. freaks me out when couches, stages and tables are dirty.
Higher spending customers .. 1 ++ guys can = a Great night ya know!!.. ;)
Nicer atmosphere to spend my time in, dress nicer and all that
Generally ok management
Generally cleaner girls
Lower Contact!!

Ditto on all he above

kitana
09-08-2005, 10:24 PM
and at my favoret hole in the wall most of the dancers are older and I remember them from the upscale clubs back in the 80's .

Well we can't all be Sophia Lauren you know....

Ans as for another poster complaining about your grammer and typing; it would really help if you actually used uppercase letters at the beginning of sentences. As well as proper punctuation at the end. There is also a spell check function at the bottom of the reply page right beside the post button. ;)

threlayer
09-09-2005, 11:58 AM
In bed, snuggled up together, feeling so close, you all are Sophia Loren.

vegasbebe
10-23-2005, 04:01 PM
I absolutely refuse to dance in a club that is not upscale. I have always danced in these clubs, and they are the best. Not only do the customers have more money, but the girls who dance at these clubs tend to be nicer...alll around....and more professional about their jobs. (No offense to anyone who works in a hole in the wall, this has just been my experience!!) Also, the whole club is run in a more professional fashion and the management won't tolerate any bullshit from customers or dancers.

Also, I'd rather feel like a pretty pretty princess than some chick hanging out at a titty bar

Crow
10-23-2005, 04:25 PM
Most of us that work in the clubs that are as you put it, not upscale are not just chicks hanging out in a titty bar. Thanks for reminding me why once again I don't work in clubs like yours.

R

FBR
10-23-2005, 04:36 PM
Upscale...low end...middle of the road...its subjective and purely opinion. In my view, if the customers have a good time during their visits and the strippers make reasonable money for their efforts, its all good.

FBR

Paris
10-24-2005, 01:23 AM
There are no absolutes in this industry. I have worked at all kinds of clubs. I have really enjoyed some HITW type places and have really hated others. Same with the other club classifications.

I mostly work at upscale or MOR clubs simply because the money is better. I have worked at upscale clubs that I have absolutely hated (Deja Vu anyone??) and others that I wish I could spend more time at (Club Paradise in Vegas).

I have known dancers well into their 40's that have made consistantly great cash in upscale places, and it seems that the younger dancers just can't make the cut in those type of clubs.

I guess long story longer, I have just added more nonsense to a nonsense thread. This is such an individule chioce that everyone is going to have a different view. It's like trying to get everyone to agree on the "BEST" flavor of ice cream ::) .

WEEZO
10-24-2005, 08:47 AM
I like upscale to work in for several reasons:

IT’s CLEAN.. freaks me out when couches, stages and tables are dirty.
Higher spending customers .. 1 ++ guys can = a Great night ya know!!.. ;)
Nicer atmosphere to spend my time in, dress nicer and all that
Generally ok management
Generally cleaner girls
Lower Contact!!


i agree... i just started at a more upscale club... and i enjoy these perks... i always had a tradional and classy style to my dress and now i feel i have the atmosphere to compliment it as well.