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jester214
02-20-2008, 10:31 PM
whatever... if you were "kidding" keep in mind there is no tone, inflection, or faces on here to tell me your kidding...
Yekhefah
02-20-2008, 10:32 PM
Yes, exactly. SOME to cover his overhead, taxes, and profit... but not more than half the women's income (he takes half, PLUS a nightly room fee). And the sex thing is just completely inappropriate.
jester214
02-20-2008, 10:32 PM
No, you're not the only one who is disturbed.
And he gets 50% of EVERY worker's incolme. You could argue that, given that every woman who works for him must turn over a percentage, 50% is excessively above and beyond what's needed to cover overheads and taxation AND turn a decent profit.
I am nothing but curious with this question... how do the taxes work in regards to the owner of the brothel?
Jenny
02-20-2008, 10:32 PM
whatever... if you were "kidding" keep in mind there is no tone, inflection, or faces on here to tell me your kidding...Yes, well I have a dry, deadpan sense of humour. The interweb is filled with many different senses of humour. You are going to have to adapt.
flickad
02-20-2008, 10:33 PM
Am I the only one disturbed by the requirement that you have to give him free sex in addition to half the pay? He doesn't keep all of his half; the government takes quite a bit of it. You could make the argument (though it wouldn't stand up to much) that he is within his moral rights as the business owner to take some of the women's money to cover his overhead and turn profit for himself. But you lose me at the sex requirement. I'm sorry, but if you have to fuck Dennis to work at the ranch, then that makes Dennis a pathetic pimp and I really don't understand how that's legal.
And I don't understand why that requirement doesn't seem to bother jester.
No, you're not the only one who is disturbed.
And he gets 50% of EVERY worker's income. You could argue that, given that every woman who works for him must turn over a percentage, 50% is excessively above and beyond what's needed to cover overheads and taxation AND turn a decent profit.
flickad
02-20-2008, 10:34 PM
I am nothing but curious with this question... how do the taxes work in regards to the owner of the brothel?
No idea, I've never run a business, let alone a brothel.
jester214
02-20-2008, 10:35 PM
Yes, well I have a dry, deadpan sense of humour. The interweb is filled with many different senses of humour. You are going to have to adapt.
How would anyone know that was kidding, what signals it?
If I have to be able to see that, that was kidding, then I guess I'll never adapt...
Jenny
02-20-2008, 10:42 PM
How would anyone know that was kidding, what signals it?
If I have to be able to see that, that was kidding, then I guess I'll never adapt...Very well then. You are free, instead of adapting, to reply with a "whatever" to any joke you don't happen to get. It's nice that we've cleared this up.
jester214
02-20-2008, 10:44 PM
Very well then. You are free, instead of adapting, to reply with a "whatever" to any joke you don't happen to get. It's nice that we've cleared this up.
whatever... (thats me joking, although its more sarcasm than a joke)
yoda57us
02-21-2008, 05:37 AM
Am I the only one disturbed by the requirement that you have to give him free sex in addition to half the pay? He doesn't keep all of his half; the government takes quite a bit of it. You could make the argument (though it wouldn't stand up to much) that he is within his moral rights as the business owner to take some of the women's money to cover his overhead and turn profit for himself. But you lose me at the sex requirement. I'm sorry, but if you have to fuck Dennis to work at the ranch, then that makes Dennis a pathetic pimp and I really don't understand how that's legal.
And I don't understand why that requirement doesn't seem to bother jester.
This is actually my only issue with the whole set up. I don't patronize legal brothels but I do see agency girls quite often. A real agency owner is not a pimp. He or she charges a lady a fee for the services provided. Advertising, screening, securing locations etc are all legitimate necessities that a lot of escorts don't want to get involved in so they seek representation through a legitimate agency. Sleeping with the owner is never part of the deal. I know these guys exist, Dennis is not the only one, just the one getting all of the attention.
The issue of legality looms large in Dennis' particular case. He is exploiting the fact that he runs a legal brothel to take more from these women than they would ever have to pay in a non-legal agency representation....and he forces them to have sex with him. Let's remember before we paint these ladies as victims that no one is dragging them to the BR or any other legal brothel to work. They go there by choice.
That being said, the vast majority of women making a living as escorts do it with discretion and caution but most definitely illegally. Is it better? Well, that's up to the lady to decide. I can't imagine any of the well-educated, beautiful and industrious women that I pay for sex on a regular basis deciding to move to the dessert, give half of their earnings to a fat guy AND boink him just so they can keep working...Sorry, legal or not it makes no sense.
Lastly, I see a lot of outrage by some folks here and I can't really figure out where it comes from. Opinions are a wonderful thing but facts are facts. It's a good idea to have the facts straight before going off half cocked...
Jay Zeno
02-21-2008, 07:15 AM
The way taxes would work, I assume, is like any other business. The money that's left in the corporate gets dinged for corporate taxes. The money that the proprietor takes out personally is subject to personal income taxes.
I am in no way inferring how brothels run. I'm merely addressing the question of "how do the taxes work."
But in terms of the brothel, does the proprietor pay the help as subcontractors or as employees? That would be an interesting issue to address. If they're being paid as employees, the proprietor is taking away less than half, because there's matching withholding and workers comp and unemployment and that. If they're being paid as independent contractors while being kept in a workplace with no opportunity to work elsewhere, then there's a risk that a state or federal agency would find them to be statutory employees at some point, and the business would then be liable for tons of payments never made.
The stated requirement to have sex with the owner bothers me, too, a whole bunch.
Jenny
02-21-2008, 07:32 AM
Let's remember before we paint these ladies as victims that no one is dragging them to the BR or any other legal brothel to work. They go there by choice. You could say that about any exploitative work environment where a person wasn't actually chained down. It's not a particularly useful way of looking at labour standards.
MixedBabe88
02-21-2008, 07:35 AM
THANK YOU!! This is just ONE of the things that pisses me off when people try to compare porn to prostitution. Theres nothing wrong with either if they are your choice...but they are NOT the same. God...ok..I have to go now because I'm so freakin' tired of having this argument over and over.
Good lord, do not get your panties in a bunch.
I have heard, seen, known people get STD's in porn. You have to assume because it's real life, you CAN come into contact with issues.
And what happens if you get tested every 28 days, someone gets tested, they sleep with someone outside the porn industry, contract something on day 14, get retested on day 28 and have had 14 days to work, and pass it on to someone else? I'm sorry, nothing is fullproof. Getting tested everyday wouldn't even be accurate all the time.
I am definitely not saying porn is bad, I appreciate porn and you're right - it probably is safer than just having sex with people outside of porn who are not getting tested regularly.
flickad
02-21-2008, 07:55 AM
The way taxes would work, I assume, is like any other business. The money that's left in the corporate gets dinged for corporate taxes. The money that the proprietor takes out personally is subject to personal income taxes.
I am in no way inferring how brothels run. I'm merely addressing the question of "how do the taxes work."
But in terms of the brothel, does the proprietor pay the help as subcontractors or as employees? That would be an interesting issue to address. If they're being paid as employees, the proprietor is taking away less than half, because there's matching withholding and workers comp and unemployment and that. If they're being paid as independent contractors while being kept in a workplace with no opportunity to work elsewhere, then there's a risk that a state or federal agency would find them to be statutory employees at some point, and the business would then be liable for tons of payments never made.
The stated requirement to have sex with the owner bothers me, too, a whole bunch.
Sex workers are independent contractors pretty much across the board.
MixedBabe88
02-21-2008, 08:04 AM
I'm not trying to be a bitch here, but with all of these statistics being thrown around...
Can someone provide concrete evidence of these numbers?
As far as the STDs remark goes, in 1995 Alexa Albert (author of Brothel: The Mustang Ranch and Its Women) did a study on use of condoms in work life and private life of legal prostitutes and she and her colleagues found that these women were more likely to get any STD from their lover than their clients. (Only the abstract is available online, but you can view it here (http://www.ajph.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/4/643?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&volume=88&firstpage=643&resourcetype=HWCIT).)
All sexual acts in the brothels require condoms - it's absolutely nonnegotiable. All of the ladies (myself included) even used gloves when hand jobs were given. The use of condoms is for the prostitute's safety, not the client's, since it's known that she's clean from her testing. No lady is allowed to work the floor until she passes said testing...hell, she's not even allowed to have her license if she doesn't pass.
I can't say that prostitutes don't have some form of STD. I can't know that. But I do know that their instances of STDs don't necessarily come from their line of work. Lifestyle accounts for so many of the factors that could lead to any woman getting a venerial disease.
The fact of the matter is, even if a prostitute has HPV, she isn't spreading it so long as she's following the state structured guidelines for safe sex. If a client has HPV, he won't spread it to the lady as long as she follows those same guidelines.
Idiocy and accidents can and will happen though, so it's not an impossibility...more of an improbability.
Woo. Okay. I'm going to stop rambling now, but I really am interested in any studies on STDs that anyone can link me to!
Well, I would have to say since people usually feel more relaxed with their SO, lovers, etc they probably do not use condoms so yes, getting an STD is probably more probable from a lover as apposed to a client.
PS: HPV can be easily contracted with or without a condom. It's skin to skin contact and condoms do not cover all skin so using a condom is definitely not fullproof. Granted, it ups your chances of not getting it, but it still can happen.
Jay Zeno
02-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Sex workers are independent contractors pretty much across the board.
That's a problem. If they're in a building, no chance to work anywhere else, with rules and mandatory working conditions, the proprietor has a much harder time saying "independent" with a straight face to federal and state agencies. What is "independent" about that situation?
Then those agencies say, "Calling them independent don't make it so. We see them as employees. Hmmmm.... how long has this been going on? That many years? Wow..... that's a lot of back withholding and workers comp premiums.... oh, my calculator doesn't go to eight places left of the decimal.... excuse me a minute....."
Jenny
02-21-2008, 08:38 AM
There is also such thing as a "dependent contractor", which they might fit into more appropriately.
yoda57us
02-21-2008, 08:46 AM
You could say that about any exploitative work environment where a person wasn't actually chained down. It's not a particularly useful way of looking at labour standards.
Sorry Jenny but you are way of on this one. NO ONE is forcing the laddies of the Bunny Ranch to be there. If they want to escort for a living they can do it anywhere they want. If they would rather do something else they can do that too. Is the BR an exploitative work environment? Yeah, I would say it is but there is no lock on the door keeping the ladies in.
Jenny
02-21-2008, 08:48 AM
I know. And as I said - you could say the same about any exploitative and bad working environment. Were the people forced to work at Walmart when they were forced to work hours for free and detained in the store all night? No? Well, then, there is no point subjecting those labour standards to scrutiny.
It is not a particularly useful way of examining labour standards. The reason we HAVE labour standards is specifically to deal with these kinds of situations.
Jay Zeno
02-21-2008, 08:52 AM
There is also such thing as a "dependent contractor", which they might fit into more appropriately.Jenny, I employ people and I hire subcontractors (corporate pimp, that's me), and I'm not familiar with that category in the US tax arena.
Jenny
02-21-2008, 09:00 AM
Jenny, I employ people and I hire subcontractors (corporate pimp, that's me), and I'm not familiar with that category in the US tax arena.
Someone who is contracted who is... not free to sell their service on the open market (as of course, it is established, girls working in brothels certainly are not; they are not allowed to bounce from one to another in a given night, and in fact generally have to live there). I'm not sure how they are taxed. My suspicion would be that they are taxed like independent contractors, but have the benefits of employee based labour relations legislation.
Jay Zeno
02-21-2008, 09:06 AM
My knowledge is relatively anecdotal. I know of some business concerns who would've probably loved to claim "dependent contractors" for people that state and federal agencies called "virtual employees." Massive penalties ensued. In my own shop, there's no way that I'd run that track. My folks are either actually employees or actually independent. (I just try to make so that the independent people like working with me.)
Jenny
02-21-2008, 09:16 AM
It could be an Ontario thing then.
yoda57us
02-21-2008, 09:31 AM
I know. And as I said - you could say the same about any exploitative and bad working environment. Were the people forced to work at Walmart when they were forced to work hours for free and detained in the store all night? No? Well, then, there is no point subjecting those labour standards to scrutiny.
It is not a particularly useful way of examining labour standards. The reason we HAVE labour standards is specifically to deal with these kinds of situations.
Jenny, I'm making a simple statement here. They can leave and go do something else, including escorting for more money though legally, anytime they want to. Sometimes labor standards in certain venues evolve because, for better or worse, people allow themselves to be exploited. Well, the same goes for Wal Mart. The front door is only locked when the store is closed.
Jenny
02-21-2008, 09:35 AM
Jenny, I'm making a simple statement here. They can leave and go do something else, including escorting for more money though legally, anytime they want to. Sometimes labor standards evolve because, for better or worse, people allow themselves to be exploited. Well, the same goes for Wal Mart. The front door is only locked when the store is closed.Okay. My statement is really equally simple. That "they don't have to work here" is not, in any workplace, a particularly good way of analysing exploitative labour practices, for the very simple reason that nearly ANY labour practice would acceptable under that rubric. I agree that they "don't have to work there." I just don't think that the is the end of the story.
Aubreyyy
02-21-2008, 10:43 AM
MixedBabe, it is "foolproof" not "fullproof".
That is all.
Lapaholic
02-21-2008, 10:57 AM
I think what Jenny is saying is that the NV brothel was established by law not because they were trying to create a legal and better way for a prostitute to earn a living. Rather it was done to legalize what already existed - a rather perverse set up ( The Mustang Ranch i belive owned by some dude named Conforte?) . I think they also require the women to live to keep the activities out of sight.
A better way may have been to decriminalize prostitution - allowing the sex worker to negotiate directly with the consumer - no pimp or brother owner required. Brothels could exist but then the worker has other options that are not there now. This is what I ve learned from researching this a little and culling the feminist stuff from Jenny posts.
I agree that its odd that the women working at BR have to have sex with Dennis in order to work there. The question is why is that allowed. I think its more the state of Nevada really doesnt want to deal with it. To do so, makes it a legitimate business - more so that just the legal sense. Yeah the women dont have to work there but why should that be the test. It should by why does he have to have sex with them? In any other business - even an independent contractor - that would not be acceptable. ( Funny too - how we think every one has a choice. Choices may be apparent to us but not to them .... ie The children didnt have to work at the factories in the early 20th century. I mean they and their parents had choices too!! right? 0
Jenny has a point! and I also know she doesnt need any help form little ol' me ;)
yoda57us
02-21-2008, 11:07 AM
Okay. My statement is really equally simple. That "they don't have to work here" is not, in any workplace, a particularly good way of analysing exploitative labour practices, for the very simple reason that nearly ANY labour practice would acceptable under that rubric. I agree that they "don't have to work there." I just don't think that the is the end of the story.
Well I agree. I don't think that it is or should be the end of the story either. I don't think my solution means that I think unfair labor practices are acceptable. I am suggesting that in many cases women, all people in fact, have the power to decide if they are going to be exploited or not. I'm not running for office so I'm not going to try and tell you how to change things that, in many industries, obviously need to change.
In the case of the BR, how is it going to change? What are the ladies working there going to do to make things better for themselves? Not being a smart ass here, I'd really like to know. Do they have recourse?
Yes the industry is legal and regulated in this case but are there laws in Nevada that govern the way these ladies are to be treated? Can they sue Dennis for sexual harassment if he forces them to sleep with him in order to be kept on?
I'm separating escorting from other industries where abuses occur here simply because it IS different from other industries. As I said earlier, the Bunny Ranch is NOT the business model for how the vast majority of escorts earn their living. It is in fact a rare exception. There are viable alternatives that any woman with half a brain and a willingness to do the job can take advantage of. Admittedly the other options are not without legal pitfalls but those are managed every day by the majority of women who engage in prostitution as a long term means for earning a living.
Jenny
02-21-2008, 11:29 AM
Well I agree. I don't think that it is or should be the end of the story either. I don't think my solution means that I think unfair labor practices are acceptable. I am suggesting that in many cases women, all people in fact, have the power to decide if they are going to be exploited or not. I'm not running for office so I'm not going to try and tell you how to change things that, in many industries, obviously need to change.
In the case of the BR, how is it going to change? What are the ladies working there going to do to make things better for themselves? Not being a smart ass here, I'd really like to know. Do they have recourse?
Yes the industry is legal and regulated in this case but are there laws in Nevada that govern the way these ladies are to be treated? Can they sue Dennis for sexual harassment if he forces them to sleep with him in order to be kept on?
I'm separating escorting from other industries where abuses occur here simply because it IS different from other industries. As I said earlier, the Bunny Ranch is NOT the business model for how the vast majority of escorts earn their living. It is in fact a rare exception. There are viable alternatives that any woman with half a brain and a willingness to do the job can take advantage of. Admittedly the other options are not without legal pitfalls but those are managed every day by the majority of women who engage in prostitution as a long term means for earning a living.
Okay; so far, if I understand correctly we agree that unfair labour conditions remain unfair even if a worker "still agrees" to work under them. I'm not sure, then, what "Well they agree to work under them" really brings to the conversation then. If it is not an issue of "well they agree to it, therefore it is their own fault on their own heads be it" I don't understand what it is an issue of.
Could they sue him? I don't see why not, except for the public shame and scandal and probably minimal damages that they would accrue; precisely what everyone is depending on to keep them in line. Yay for regulating a business for the benefit of brothel owners and not the people actually working.
Lapaholic
02-21-2008, 11:52 AM
Here is the Storey count laws establishing brothels -> http://www.sex-in-nevada.com/Bashful/THE_LAW/Storey_County_Laws.html
Really just says give us 30K and test your workers and u can exist. But what has happened is that they have created is an unregulated cartel. I cant think of any business where a govt has created a monopoly or oligopoly and not regulated what it does and how it conducts business. Think phone company for the older folks or cable companies. Those companies services and prices are regulated and approved by some govt authority. I think the same could be done here... but I think the county fathers and mothers would have to establish the going rate for a bj and determine who should get what from that transaction ( Imagine that hearing on your local cable access channel!!!). Not to mention the funny business that is going on to squeeze more bucks from costomers too ( if what has been said here in this thread is true).... Doesnt sound like something they would want to do.
MixedBabe88
02-21-2008, 01:33 PM
MixedBabe, it is "foolproof" not "fullproof".
That is all.
My bad, I was working on a proposal for a rather large essay.
Sorry my mind was not 100% into stripperweb at the moment.
:/
yoda57us
02-21-2008, 01:50 PM
Okay; so far, if I understand correctly we agree that unfair labour conditions remain unfair even if a worker "still agrees" to work under them. I'm not sure, then, what "Well they agree to work under them" really brings to the conversation then. If it is not an issue of "well they agree to it, therefore it is their own fault on their own heads be it" I don't understand what it is an issue of.
Could they sue him? I don't see why not, except for the public shame and scandal and probably minimal damages that they would accrue; precisely what everyone is depending on to keep them in line. Yay for regulating a business for the benefit of brothel owners and not the people actually working.
Honestly Jenny the last line of your post is pretty much why most escorts would never work in that environment. I don't care much for the entire concept either but obviously there are enough women willing to work that way and enough guys willing to pay two or three times more than they have to for sex to keep these legal brothels going.
I know I keep coming around to the same conclusion here but in the case of escorting and the BR it really is very logical and very doable. Just don't work for the guy.
Crow2
02-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Porn, prostitution in its many forms are all diffrent sorts of work. Untill you have done one. You really can't say what's bad or good.
I've seen girls come in right off the so called track or sreet and go to work in a legal house and then leave just as quickly.
Every precaution is taken to protect against the spread of disease. Legal houses are SO much better from my experience. Women that choose to work there have acess to every resourse to aid in the process of making money.
Does the house take a cut? Why yes they do. Same as a dancers payout. Save on a larger scale.
Once again from MY EXPERIENCE there are few indy escorts that use protection. Tack girls? Ha. Forget it. So think about it and read up on the stats about the rate of spread of STDs from legal houses.
Porn is the same way. No test. No work. Plus if your test comes back positive. No work. Its just that simple.
Of course there are no guarentees. Just like in dancing. Some wacko could walk into a club tomorrow and start shooting because some stripper told him no.
Is that deserved? Of course not. Its foolish to think that it is.
Just because you don't want to take that risk and others do dosent make it wrong or dirty or bad.
This is just what I am getting from reading these posts. Also this is not an attack on anyone. Just sharing from once again my own personal experience.
I learned quite a bit from working at a legal house and from being an indy. Some I really did not want to know..
Just my two cents.
Rhiannon
Xooxox
flickad
02-22-2008, 12:33 AM
That's a problem. If they're in a building, no chance to work anywhere else, with rules and mandatory working conditions, the proprietor has a much harder time saying "independent" with a straight face to federal and state agencies. What is "independent" about that situation?
Then those agencies say, "Calling them independent don't make it so. We see them as employees. Hmmmm.... how long has this been going on? That many years? Wow..... that's a lot of back withholding and workers comp premiums.... oh, my calculator doesn't go to eight places left of the decimal.... excuse me a minute....."
I'm not disagreeing with you here, just calling it as the law tends to see it.
Crow2
02-22-2008, 12:43 AM
Not being rude in the least, if an agency calls their girls indipendants I'd run. Indy escorts are traditionally on their own and run their own business by themselves. Without the aid of anyone else.
Pardon the thread jack. Just to clarify;)
Aubreyyy
02-22-2008, 07:30 PM
My bad, I was working on a proposal for a rather large essay.
Sorry my mind was not 100% into stripperweb at the moment.
:/
I just realized that probably came off as really catty :-[ I SO did not mean it like that! Sorry!
CuriousSeeker
02-22-2008, 11:20 PM
I just wanted to chime in because I worked at the Bunnyranch personally. There was no pressure to sleep with Dennis. None. Many girls even told me when I started: "You don't have to sleep with Dennis." Cool. I didn't.
Awesome to hear this. I think it was Dennis' persona in Cathouse and A Tale of Two Brothels (as well as some folks' impressions) that had me thinking it was practically mandatory, or else the environment was made intolerable for you if he was interested and you weren't. Also, didn't Michelle Maverick say something to that effect (e.g., having to sleep with him) in her book? I might be confused with someone else.
He also usually asked me to sit on his lap when he visited...
Was it for a photo op? ::)
I have pretty neutral feelings about the Bunnyranch - I enjoyed my time there and had a very positive experience, but it's far from perfect. The cut is high and there is some favoritism and gossip. It would be nice to see the foremost U.S. brothel run by a woman or someone who is more closely focused on prostitution reform.
Did you make your goal during the time you were there? Any trouble with clients' demands or the way they treated you?
It would also be nice to hear perspectives from other women from different backgrounds (college). Many of the girls I worked with came from backgrounds of drug abuse, alcoholism, pimp boyfriends, childhood trauma, etc -- stereotypical, but true.
Did you meet women who already had their degrees but wanted this experience or financial opportunity nonetheless?
miabella
02-23-2008, 01:28 PM
i'd be interested to see ethnic breakdowns and earning levels for the BR, and any other nevada brothels, for that matter. the pictures posted on the BR website aren't exactly 'diverse', which is pretty telling if women are routinely making 20k a week or even month and such.
miabella
02-23-2008, 03:10 PM
much earlier in this thread there were girls who'd worked there posting pretty high (five figures per week or month, depending on the girl) earnings for only working a few weeks or months total, NOT longtime workers with built-up clientele. that's why i mention high earnings numbers. nobody here was posting that they struggled to make say, 2k for the week (as happens with stripping all the time).
yoda57us
02-23-2008, 04:08 PM
much earlier in this thread there were girls who'd worked there posting pretty high (five figures per week or month, depending on the girl) earnings for only working a few weeks or months total, NOT longtime workers with built-up clientele. that's why i mention high earnings numbers. nobody here was posting that they struggled to make say, 2k for the week (as happens with stripping all the time).
I remember those numbers as well...My experience with dancers and escorts alike is that the smart ones keep there earnings pretty much to themselves. Once the jaw-flapping begins in public, or a public forum, credibility becomes an issue...
sun child
02-23-2008, 04:09 PM
I'd like to see actual demographics and statistics, too, but I don't think you can draw any conclusions about income from speaking to even ten girls who have worked at the Bunny Ranch. A girl might easily negotiate a $4K hour and make $2K in one hour. Another girl could struggle to be picked out of a lineup at all and make nothing. Some girls work there year-round and do build up clientele. Others go for a week for a quick few grand or more.
CuriousSeeker
02-23-2008, 07:13 PM
No one!! I was the closest thing there to college educated.
I'm surprised. I thought Brooke said on the Tyra show that she had a college degree and was formerly a counselor to people with developmental disabilities? For some reason, I thought Valentine got her degree a while ago - could have been a mistaken impression on my part.
Thank you for all the info! I appreciate the answers.
Golden_Rule
02-24-2008, 08:45 PM
Actually I was speaking of BioCollections which tests for the porn industry in Florida.
AIM is used exclusivly for LA and California.
Quite probably.
Still, if you are speaking about "The Porn Industry" as a general topic you are talking the industry as it stands and is practiced in California. That is where most of the product, at least from the big production houses, originates in this country.
Which is why I used AIM as the reference point.
Lysondra
02-24-2008, 09:32 PM
Cam Cam - speaking of you in porn, I talked to the porn lady lookin to buy one of your movies and she said she looooooved you (and sold out of your movies because she recommended you). P: She wants to know if you'll sign a photo for her shop. hahaha.
VegasPrincess
02-26-2008, 09:11 AM
So back on topic, I think it would be interesting to work at the Bunny Ranch, just to see what its all about, but....
I'm sort of surprised the take home is only 10k a month... if you busted your ass stripping for a month, you would make that....
I would have to know that potentially I could make lots more
Moodmaster
02-26-2008, 09:05 PM
I believe that Chrissychan (Jenny Lane) left the Bunny Ranch.
Has anyone heard from her recently?
Crow2
02-26-2008, 11:48 PM
Also, just as a side note, there are a few other legal houses you could check out if your truly intrested in this line of work.
Just a thought.
sun child
02-27-2008, 04:11 AM
Like I said before, you can't look at the Bunny Ranch or any other legal brothel and gather any kind of idea or data about what it will be like without actually being there for yourself. Sometimes a dude will come in and spend $60,000 (yes this is true), other times there will be dudes that are trying to fuck you up the ass for $200!
But really, it's all up to the girls. That is the draw of the Bunny Ranch. All the girls are instructed to set their prices high. It's got something to do with impulse buying and psychology. When a guy has a few thousand dollars on his credit card, and his dick is hard, sometimes he will just say "fuck it." That's what the brothels are all about!
I'd say $10,000 a month is a very low earnings. VERY LOW. If you are literally there for a month, that would be a disappointing figure. Seriously, you're pretty much living there. That's not just a part-time stripping job. That's a month out of your year.
Some girls are not picked out of the line up at all. Some girls are not good negotiators. They probably don't make that much.
"Working girls" get the hep screen (blood test for hepatitis) yearly, and it's a requirement to work at the Bunny Ranch.
CuriousSeeker
03-01-2008, 11:45 AM
I'd say $10,000 a month is a very low earnings. VERY LOW. If you are literally there for a month, that would be a disappointing figure. Seriously, you're pretty much living there. That's not just a part-time stripping job. That's a month out of your year.
What if you do a one-week tour there and you're a hustler? What would be expected?
"Working girls" get the hep screen (blood test for hepatitis) yearly, and it's a requirement to work at the Bunny Ranch.
Is that only the Bunny Ranch? I didn't see in NV laws where that testing was required.
Also, I didn't see where testing for HSV 1-2 (herpes) was required either. Jessi Jaymes talked about women working with herpes in her video on brothels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pT0WJnq6hE. Even with condoms, dental dams, and no visible outbreaks, there still could be viral shedding and transmission. Yet I'm not hearing people in LPIN discuss it as problematic generally.
Do comparable houses tell the women to set their prices really high to begin with (i.e., Chicken Ranch, Sherri's, Wild Horse)? Seems to be the M.O. in every Dennis-approved clip on tv or the 'net.
sun child
03-01-2008, 11:56 AM
I really don't know those answers, sorry I can't help more. I don't know what's expected; I think earnings fluctuate for girls a lot, just as they do in the stripping world.