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Lysondra
06-30-2008, 07:25 PM
hmm if it wasnt for sex workers it would be a lot easier for all of us to make lots of money doing very very little work. nowadays guys dont want to pay 500 bucks to talk in the champagne room because they know they can get an anal threesome for less money. sad :-(

Prostitution has nothing to do with strippers making less money - the LEGALITY of it does. Since it's highly illegal, it becomes a dog-eat-dog market where they can charge whatever they want since it's illegal anyway and Ho Blow down the corner is selling for $25 a head.

It's legal here and there is a very thick black line between prostitution and stripping. If Jo No Blow goes into a strip club he KNOWS he's getting a stripper. If he goes into a brothel he KNOWS he's getting more. The prices are even regulated because it's legal.

I still make over a grand most weekend nights and there's 10 brothels nearby.

Lysondra
06-30-2008, 07:30 PM
um stripping or doing toy shows, which many would consider very very very similar to prostitution?

Yeah, totally using toys on myself is EXACTLY the same as fucking a man's dick for money. What was I thinking? ::)

cherry_sin
06-30-2008, 07:39 PM
Holy shit, if that's true then I'm so good I'm a hooker over webcam. Hot damn, I feel special. Prostitution when I'm not even in the same room!

(Im in ur computers beein a prossie!!)

Lysondra
06-30-2008, 07:41 PM
I'd like to point out also that a hooker legally here is still half the price is not less than one of my shows. So obviously the markets are just entirely different.

Just because a man can get a blowjob for twenty dollars doesn't mean he wants one.

mild2wild
07-01-2008, 02:41 AM
I'd like to point out also that a hooker legally here is still half the price is not less than one of my shows. So obviously the markets are just entirely different.

Just because a man can get a blowjob for twenty dollars doesn't mean he wants one.

If you divide $300 by 10 guys it works out to be $30 each - you're not going to get 'trustworthy' sex for $30 ...

Lysondra
07-01-2008, 02:57 AM
If you divide $300 by 10 guys it works out to be $30 each - you're not going to get 'trustworthy' sex for $30 ...


More often than not one person is paying for it, however. I've hardly seen any guys actually split the bill, hahahaha.

Dottie Rebel
07-01-2008, 08:29 AM
Hi Everyone.

Guess what? This is "other work" and since strippers are sex workers, much of the "other work" they migrate into is going to be... other sex work. That means escorting, porn and phone sex. If you find it unpalatable please avoid the threads. Let's please stay on the topic of providing information, not trading judgments.


um stripping or doing toy shows, which many would consider very very very similar to prostitution?

You need to fucking recognize.

Jenny
07-01-2008, 01:49 PM
If you want to discuss the similarities and differences between stripping and prostitution in a respectful and intelligent manner, knock yourself out in a thread you begin for that purpose. I will have my eyes on such a thread, and I will have a high standard of "respectful and intelligent". I mean, I think it is an interesting topic and I would hate to close the door on reasonable discussion because one or two people refuse to make it easy for everyone else to be reasonable; plus I would hate to have women who engaged in prostitution, pornography and et cetera to feel marginalized or isolated for no other reason. So. Keeping in mind that there will be a high standard of "tolerance" and "reasonable", if you feel you absolutely must discuss similarities and differences between stripping and prostitution and other stuff, please go ahead. But please do not hijack a thread intended to give information about a specific kind of work for that agenda.

Please carry on. This will be.... (duh duh duh!) the final warning.

mild2wild
07-01-2008, 04:46 PM
More often than not one person is paying for it, however. I've hardly seen any guys actually split the bill, hahahaha.

Yes, I understand, but when talking to people before their stripper arrives (during booking stage) many of them ask for the total so they can collect $$ off their mates etc

Still if that one person was to buy 10 guys sex it would still be expensive at around $150 each guy...

VegasPrincess
07-02-2008, 01:17 AM
Can we bring this thread back to the title, The Bunny Ranch???

I for one would be interested in working there and would like to keep it on topic so it doesn't get closed!

Thanks y'all!!

needtodance
07-03-2008, 12:07 PM
The facilities at Shari's look a lot nicer-I'm still mulling around going there. I'm just kind of curiosu about how much traffic they're currently getting, with fuel prices so hiiiiigh....

CuriousSeeker
07-04-2008, 04:29 AM
I'm just kind of curiosu about how much traffic they're currently getting, with fuel prices so hiiiiigh....

Emily posted this article about revenue in the brothel system:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/141848

I guess everyone is feeling it.

krystel_gotti
07-05-2008, 10:51 AM
My only question is ....wouldnt that be kinda risky health wise?
Thank you for asking that question! I have asked that same question to the girls that I know that worked in porn and thought about going to the bunny ranch and other brothels.... just know this... all that glitters is not gold... I heard that the girls there are pretty much forced to have dates with guys rather they like them or not... basically if they pick you out or what ever you can't be like no he is a dirty trucker and I don't want to be with him! Working at a place like that no matter how much they test the girls they are not testing the guys so you are going to be running some serious risks that these guys are dirty... I know that we have all thought about making some serious extra money but at what cost??? I think that the other girls are right about freelancing, I would freelance in navada or something take a bouncer from your club that you trust and get a upscale hotel not motel take it out of the cost and get a one bedroom suite. have your guy chill in the living room the hour that you are there and everyone is happy and you really get to keep your money... 2,000 an hour minus 150 for a hotel room and 200 for the bouncer. that is keeping alot more of your money... it is just something to think about if you are going to do it.

NewMoon
07-05-2008, 11:33 AM
krystel- as an independent contracter, you set your own prices. If some nasty guy comes to you, make your price so high that he will say no or make it worth your while.

yoda57us
07-05-2008, 12:32 PM
I would freelance in navada or something take a bouncer from your club that you trust and get a upscale hotel not motel take it out of the cost and get a one bedroom suite. have your guy chill in the living room the hour that you are there and everyone is happy and you really get to keep your money... 2,000 an hour minus 150 for a hotel room and 200 for the bouncer. that is keeping alot more of your money... it is just something to think about if you are going to do it.

I'm a big fan of the Indie escort but you will never get $2000 for an hour working anywhere unless you are a well known porn star. The going rate around Vegas is $300 to $500 an hour. Also, no guy will come to see you if there is a bouncer bouncer sitting on the couch during his visit. The first thing that would come to mind if I encountered such a scenario would be that I was about to be robbed.

krystel_gotti
07-05-2008, 02:03 PM
^^ That is true, it will make a guy uneasy but at the same time how important is your safety? It is a tough call to make... I know that hooking out the club is a no no but lets be honest here we all know girls that do it... I would just say get your good cussies to come and meet with you outside of the place. I have heard stories of really bad things happening to girls that go it totally alone. :( The bunny ranch does take half your money but at least you are safe as far as being in any danger. That is a good idea about charging a super high price for a nasty guy! lol hopefully he can't pay it!

Sophia_Ashley
07-05-2008, 02:22 PM
The facilities at Shari's look a lot nicer-I'm still mulling around going there. I'm just kind of curiosu about how much traffic they're currently getting, with fuel prices so hiiiiigh....

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Joplin
07-05-2008, 03:19 PM
^^ That is true, it will make a guy uneasy but at the same time how important is your safety? It is a tough call to make... I know that hooking out the club is a no no but lets be honest here we all know girls that do it... I would just say get your good cussies to come and meet with you outside of the place. I have heard stories of really bad things happening to girls that go it totally alone. :( The bunny ranch does take half your money but at least you are safe as far as being in any danger. That is a good idea about charging a super high price for a nasty guy! lol hopefully he can't pay it!

Clean cut rich guys can slit your neck just as easily than anyone else. It's not like they would kill you and leave the money anyways so they could really just appear to be rich, and obviously still kill you. I don't really get that mentality.

fancygirl
07-06-2008, 04:50 AM
then again i did just see a girl in the 4th of july thread saying she got 1k from some rich guy for talking to him on the floor for an hour. i guess it CAN happen, but its not at all common

that was in a stripclub.

Jenny
07-06-2008, 11:29 AM
We Have a Report Post function for a reason guys. In this case she was just saying that stellar nights do still happen presumably for prostitutes as well as strippers.

For the sake of clarity: unless you have experience or direct, reliable knowledge of the Bunny Ranch or legal brothels, your advice is probably not sound and you should leave it to people who do. If you want to ask a question, such as "is it true that you have "party" no matter how low the price?" it will probably be easiest for everyone to understand if you phrase it as a question.

Everyone else - chill. Yes, she posted bad things in the past - that doesn't provide license to stone her for every post. I'm going to tidy a little and then we can all move on.

krystel_gotti
07-06-2008, 12:02 PM
^ Basically what I am trying to say is this... I am not completely sure about how everything goes down at the bunny ranch, there was another post that said the girls normally charge 2,000 and hour to party there so that means they really only get 1,000 if the info the girl posted was correct. I know that you can't judge a book by its cover as far as who will hurt you vs. who won't because one guy has money and another guy looks like a dirty trucker... What I was trying to say was that I heard from a girl that went to work there that you are not suppose to turn anyone down... not that they will fire you but that they are strongly against it... the other girl said just to raise the price to something you think he can't afford so you don't have to bother with him. This is all still talking about the bunny ranch.
I then commented on working freelance if you have a problem with spliting your money 50/50 with the bunny ranch there are girls that take there chances meeting cussies out side of the club and keep almost all of there money, it is a matter of how important your safety is... At the bunny ranch you run a LOWER chance of having something bad happen to you then if you go it alone... I hope that cleared up things a bit :)

fancygirl
07-06-2008, 12:04 PM
whats your point? you would think it would be harder to make 1k for just talking in a strip club than it is to make 2k fucking...if the guy is paying 1k just to talk, then imagine how much he would be okay with paying for a hooker

umm, doesn't quite work like that and here's why--
a guy comes to a stripclub for a lot of different reasons, sometimes they want to try to hit up sex, sometimes for the tease, and sometimes for straight up company.
a guy goes to a brothel for sex. who knows, maybe he'd want to talk and cuddle afterwards, but he doesn't go there with the knowledge that he probably won't get sex like in a stripclub.

you're comparing apples and oranges really.
and besides-- you're also comparing it falsely because once again the girl is INSIDE an establishment. People were talking about the unlikelihood of a girl getting 2000 to have sex independently (outside of an establishment) due to a variety of factors:
1. less likely a girl is going to take a credit card, unless she runs a paypal right then and there.
2. the guy is going to want some sort of price break typically
3. most guys wouldn't pay 2000 for sex unless it's an unusual situation. A trip to an establishment with all the bells and whistles of a lineup and seeing how it actually works would probably be that sort of situation, as opposed to buying the time of a prostitute in the normal world.

you just cannot say, "well this girl made 1000 last night just talking in a stripclub" and then think that that's going to apply to an independent prostitute.

a third reason why this wouldn't be logical, is because we all have fantastic nights on occasion, and I'm pretty sure we can all agree that being paid 1000 to sit and chat and hang out on a otherwise so-so to slow night is pretty awesome.

the operative phrase there being on occasion.

setting a prostitute's price on a fantastic night for a stripper is as ludicrous as a stripper basing her prices on a fantastic night for a prostitute (which, supposedly can run to ten, twenty, or even thirty thousand dollars from what I've read on the bunny ranch thread.)

fantastic, but rare-- not something to set average prices on.

yoda57us
07-06-2008, 01:20 PM
Guys will over pay in a strip club (for everything from conversation to OTC full service) a lot faster than they will for an escort. The simple reason for this is that you are face to face with the guy working him and convincing him that he wants YOU.

Guys looking for escorts these days are searching on the internet or on the back page of a free newspaper. Pictures can be enticing but the price point is almost always the primary search criteria.

One of the reasons I don't run around my favorite clubs trying to get girls to have sex with me is because I KNOW how much the ones who will do it expect to be paid. In most cases the ROI is pretty poor compared to researching and hiring a good escort. I've never been one to fall for the "with a stripper at least you know what you are getting when you take her OTC" line of thinking. It's pretty much BS.

CuriousSeeker
07-07-2008, 06:08 AM
What I was trying to say was that I heard from a girl that went to work there that you are not suppose to turn anyone down... not that they will fire you but that they are strongly against it.

Yet Dennis Hof's selling point is that the workers never do anything they don't want to do? That's not a challenge to you, Krystel. It's an observation on what is put out to the public and workers' different experiences of it.

Anytime I've reviewed the Nevada code, I've never found anything on the consent aspect of working in a legal brothel. Maybe I missed it? As far as I can tell, that's all left up to the individual management of each house from what I've heard. Do the legal brothels in Australia have rules about workers' right to choose/reject?

Sophia_Ashley
07-07-2008, 04:01 PM
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Sophia_Ashley
07-07-2008, 04:07 PM
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Joplin
07-07-2008, 07:13 PM
Do they have camera's in the rooms?

Jenny
07-07-2008, 08:04 PM
msonyx:
if you want to ask a question, it will help people to understand if you pose it as a question rather than a declarative statement. Like if you are asking for clarification over something else you heard or read, they will be able to understand and answer you better if you ask it rather than declaring things.

If you want to remind people about what another poster said about her first hand experience in the past, I'm sure everyone would appreciate links. It's in this thread, so it shouldn't be that hard to find.

Since this thread is intended to be informative, let's keep the reliable information flowing, instead of devolving into "but this girl I once talked told me..."

I'm leaving the post for now in case anyone wants to answer what I assume is an implied question.
I mean, they can't force you to have sex, but if you refuse do you get to keep the gig or do you pack your bags?

Sophia_Ashley
07-07-2008, 08:24 PM
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Sophia_Ashley
07-07-2008, 08:32 PM
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It's a bad hustle to let any amount leave the place, that includes in a strip club.

Joplin
07-07-2008, 08:47 PM
Dude where do people get this information.

NO they do NOT have cameras in the rooms. Who said that? Seriously there are such thing as privacy laws. They don't just disappear because you are working in a brothel.


Nobody told me that, I was just wondering. Chill out. I was just trying to see how hard it would be to get tips under the radar.

Flick6
07-07-2008, 09:36 PM
Do the legal brothels in Australia have rules about workers' right to choose/reject?

I have a close friend that has worked in a few brothels around australia, and management used to get shitty with her when she turned down customers, but she only took up people she wanted to. Well i am sure she had bad days where she took up people that were old faty and ugly to make the money she needed for rent or whatever, but generally speaking she took the younger guys, and ignored the other girls and their catty comments. When she worked nights there was often the girls working, a receptionist and thats it. They didnt even have security and that was at a kind of 'classy' place...

The brothels she worked at were in the middle of the city or inner city locations and a lot of their trade were dudes stumbling home after a night out, so I think it would be such a different kind of experience to working somewhere in the middle of nowhere where people had to make aspecific journey to get there... anyway just for point of interest.

Sophia_Ashley
07-07-2008, 10:07 PM
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fancygirl
07-08-2008, 03:15 AM
^ I'm really glad you've been posting all this information. I know you're frustrated at some of the posts, but a lot of us (I'm sure since I can only speak for myself) really appreciate the information.

Jenny
07-08-2008, 05:12 AM
msonyxorb:
You need to stop. Thank you for linking to the youtube video, I will leave that in. I've asked you privately to chill; this is not the thread to take an anti-hooker bias out for a walk. You are derailing and creating completely unwarranted hostility and forcing the girls who are actually giving good information into the position of being apologists for those parts of the job that aren't great. This is interfering with the flow of useful information.

If you want to discuss the comparative morality of prostitution you may start a thread that adheres to the conditions that I set out before. I hate to escalate these things; I prefer to be able to reach an understanding. But if you post again in this thread there will be points.

I'm closing the thread temporarily until I can work out how to keep the information while getting rid of the negativity.
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Okay we are reopen. I did the best I could to keep the good information while getting rid of the escalating conflict. If you don't think I did it perfectly - well, it was hard, and I wound up just throwing up my hands and deleting some whole posts.

The stuff I said above still stands, and in addition I would like to remind people that naming names , especially relating to illegal activity is not cool. We certainly don't like it when certain other outsiders do it to us.

Now let's all move forward and be in a good damn mood. Anyone posting here not in a good mood gets points. Okay, I'm kidding about that. But we are sharing information here. Knowledge is good. It should make us happy.

NewMoon
07-08-2008, 08:32 AM
Sophia - Sorry to ask this but, do you happen to know if the Bunny Ranch has cameras?

Sophia_Ashley
07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
No the MLBR doesn't have cameras in the rooms. There are I believe 3 set up to see who's coming and going out of the ranch.

There were only cameras there during the HBO filmings. And all cast members (men and women customers) were actually either in porn, significant others of the workers or other people that worked there. The brothel itself wasn't open for business during the mock lineups and stuff.

NewMoon
07-08-2008, 10:16 AM
Thanks for the info!

Sophia_Ashley
07-08-2008, 11:41 AM
No problem :)

TigersMilk
07-08-2008, 03:08 PM
No the MLBR doesn't have cameras in the rooms. There are I believe 3 set up to see who's coming and going out of the ranch.

There were only cameras there during the HBO filmings. And all cast members (men and women customers) were actually either in porn, significant others of the workers or other people that worked there. The brothel itself wasn't open for business during the mock lineups and stuff.

The HBO it tricks me. :grumpy:

Sophia_Ashley
07-08-2008, 04:30 PM
I know :( I didnt' want to out how they did it but I know people assume there are always cameras because of it.

That's why there are signs there "cameras in use"

fancygirl
07-09-2008, 02:06 AM
thanks Jenny. this is definitely a useful thread.

VegasPrincess
07-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Thanks Jenny and Sophia for keeping this thread open I really appreciate the info!!

Sophia_Ashley
07-09-2008, 01:22 PM
NM.....

NewMoon
07-10-2008, 09:34 AM
Interesting article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080709/od_nm/brothel_gasoline_dc

Also, if they charge $300/hour as posted on their website, then doesn't the woman get $150. I can't imagine 1 hour of fucking for $150.

yoda57us
07-10-2008, 12:45 PM
Interesting article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080709/od_nm/brothel_gasoline_dc

Also, if they charge $300/hour as posted on their website, then doesn't the woman get $150. I can't imagine 1 hour of fucking for $150.

Well, the split may not be 50/50 the way it is in some other brothels. That being said however, there are plenty of agencies all over the country that charge $150 to $200 "an hour" and the girl is lucky to keep around half.

Lysondra
07-10-2008, 01:32 PM
Curious... do they service women? Or have men you can buy for women? What about gay men?

NewMoon
07-10-2008, 02:07 PM
Curious... do they service women? Or have men you can buy for women? What about gay men?
Forgive me for answering because I am not 100% sure, but I think that gay sex is still technically "illegal" in Nevada, let alone gay prostitution.

yoda57us
07-10-2008, 02:19 PM
Curious... do they service women? Or have men you can buy for women? What about gay men?

Who are you asking?

mollyzmoon
07-10-2008, 02:24 PM
Interesting article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080709/od_nm/brothel_gasoline_dc

Also, if they charge $300/hour as posted on their website, then doesn't the woman get $150. I can't imagine 1 hour of fucking for $150.

The going rate for escort agencies around here, it's around $240/ hour. The girl gets half. And this is not low-end, this is average. Outcall only, of course.

I swear this is why hookers like to strip, because they can way, way up their prices. The going rate for a lot of stripper/ part-time hookers I know here, it's closer to $800. And they keep it all, unless they have a pimp (which, often the case).