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Crissychan
11-15-2005, 11:46 PM
Like woa I can't believe you do 15 minute appointments!
So did he pay $500 total, or that was your cut? Beacuse if he paid $1000 and $500 was just your cut, he musta been pissed!
Oh here's a weird one: when do they pay? Before or after?
it was 500 total so i made 250 of it. Of course we do 15 minutes.... if I charge 2000 for an hour and the guy only has 500 you better believe I'm going to make my money.
In regards to the other question..... its not the number of clients that you see a day that matters becuase some guys may have 100 others may have 1000.
I have a day a week ago that I booked 4500, I make 2250 of it, and it was only 2 appts with the same guy and then the next day saw 4 $500 guys and only profit a grand...
Crissychan
11-15-2005, 11:46 PM
that is deffinitly a funny story. Thankyou for sharing it with us. So if you dont mind me asking, about how many people see you like in a week or whatever?
I booked 12 guys last week, in 5 days.
TigersMilk
11-16-2005, 01:00 AM
Ive been lurking on this thread for some time and I have to say its really interesting. Sounds like alot of money to be made. After seeing the old HBO special long time ago I always thought wow what a different world. The girls in the HBO special made like 100K a year or something.
242_fair
11-16-2005, 09:52 AM
Fascinating! Do any of the girls blog, or is that against the rules?
On the one hand, 15 minutes is not a long time at all- -like 3 lap dances. Actually I am suprised that guys can make it happen in that ammount if time! But, there would be no room for 'getting to know you' either.
Have you ever felt like $250 is not enough? I don't mean to ask this as a loaded question. For example sometimes when I dance for a customer and he's all over me, I'm like 'damn, $20 is not enough for this!'
Crystal_eyes
11-16-2005, 03:08 PM
Well some agency charges 100$ for an hour so I guess in this type of job it is well paid 250$ for 15 minutes.
StitchesH
11-16-2005, 11:32 PM
What is a Bunny Ranch? Sorry I'm new to all this and sometimes a little slow catching things :)
Crissychan
11-16-2005, 11:48 PM
Ive been lurking on this thread for some time and I have to say its really interesting. Sounds like alot of money to be made. After seeing the old HBO special long time ago I always thought wow what a different world. The girls in the HBO special made like 100K a year or something.
Honestly many of the girls do make 100k a yr and much more but they work normal schedules and take good care of customers.... but you have your bad your good and freaking awesome days....
Crissychan
11-16-2005, 11:49 PM
What is a Bunny Ranch? Sorry I'm new to all this and sometimes a little slow catching things :)
Its a legal brothel on the outside of Reno Nevada
girlnew156
11-17-2005, 04:39 PM
Fascinating! Do any of the girls blog, or is that against the rules?
On the one hand, 15 minutes is not a long time at all- -like 3 lap dances. Actually I am suprised that guys can make it happen in that ammount if time! But, there would be no room for 'getting to know you' either.
Have you ever felt like $250 is not enough? I don't mean to ask this as a loaded question. For example sometimes when I dance for a customer and he's all over me, I'm like 'damn, $20 is not enough for this!'
http://www.girliesinlove.com/girliesblog/index2.html
Pamela
11-18-2005, 08:47 AM
WTF? ^^^ Why is this girl on Keen????? No one makes money there. Customers are hard to come by no matter who you are or do.
Also you can't use Keen to get customers to meet you.
I guess she does it because she is not working at the Ranch yet? Seemed like she started, but is new.
I find anyone who escorts, dances or is working a brothel on Keen/Niteflirt very strange imo.
Pamela
pixiepower329
11-26-2005, 08:05 AM
Hey....are you back from your adventure yet???? We want details sister...details.
Crissychan
11-26-2005, 04:31 PM
Hey....are you back from your adventure yet???? We want details sister...details.
I've been home for about 4 days now... feels awesome to come home for two week having nothing to do except work-out and relax. I thought about dancing again for a couple nights this trip home (I'm home for 10 days and then I go back out for 10 days). Money wise.... no lie was awesome. better than I was hoping. I would love to give details but really there is not much to say. No I never had any gross men, no grandpa old men.... nothing really werid. I did have a guy that paid me to lock him in my closet for an hour.
holy shit i so know that girl.
No trust me on this., I know for a fact she made BIG money when it came to that stuff. She had a cam site around the same time I did...
that's about all im going to say but YES you can make money but she's been at it for a long ass while.
TarynJolie
11-26-2005, 09:38 PM
I did have a guy that paid me to lock him in my closet for an hour.
Well now, that is sure is unusual ! What did you do while he was in the closet ?
Crissychan
11-26-2005, 11:29 PM
Well now, that is sure is unusual ! What did you do while he was in the closet ?
The cashier & I sat in the office and listened to the intercom drinking expresso while he cried and screamed for his "mum", He also brought his own teddy bear & handcuffs.
buffie06
11-27-2005, 02:20 AM
i'm so glad all went well for you jenn, you are awesome!!!! HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON!!!
So how much money would you estimate an average stripper would make at the bunny ranch?
Crissychan
11-27-2005, 01:43 PM
So how much money would you estimate an average stripper would make at the bunny ranch?
That would be a hard question becuase strippers tend to get discouraged if even a single day goes by and they don't make money all day every day. One girl who by far is a former stripper and one of the prettiest girls went 9 days in a row without a single booking..... but then on day 10-13 she made close to 10k.... that part of the difference in the "game", your hustling for a lot more than $20, you have to make every negotiation count. A girl walked a guy to the bar and said for me to try him... he only had a 100 dollars or so he was saying... I got 900 out of him, so you never know. Another guy comes in sweat pants all the time looking to me like a serial killer, and went I quoted my 4 figure price he said Ok.... turns out he was a doctor!
If your not making money stripping I don't think you'd make a whole lot of money being an LPIN either.... the hustle is pretty much the same just the dance is different. On the other hand if your good at maintaining customers ( regulars ) then I would think you would do really well since the bulk of the big money is going to be regulars.... I know I made 5 figures while I was there but I also know an equally pretty girl who is a stripper who went home after 8 days with less than 400. It all comes down to you... keep in mind the girls at bunny ranch are PRO's they are at the top of their game... if your a hard core hustler then you could do well...
Crissychan
11-27-2005, 01:44 PM
i'm so glad all went well for you jenn, you are awesome!!!! HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON!!!
I miss you kimberly!!!! Hows everything going with you? I thought about coming into work while I'm home but figured I had earned a little vacation! I got your tee-shirt for you. Let me know when is good for you and I'll bring them up.
TigersMilk
11-27-2005, 01:56 PM
Hahaha One day Ill get to lock someone in my closet for money and listen to him scream LOL. Repressed issues much? Thats hella funny!! Good to see you did well over there. I love reading this thread. I cant believe a girl would go home with 400 then someone else go home with 5 figures. Crazy difference. Well I guess the long schedule is worth it though.
Crissychan
11-27-2005, 02:04 PM
Hahaha One day Ill get to lock someone in my closet for money and listen to him scream LOL. Repressed issues much? Thats hella funny!! Good to see you did well over there. I love reading this thread. I cant believe a girl would go home with 400 then someone else go home with 5 figures. Crazy difference. Well I guess the long schedule is worth it though.
I like the long schedule honestly.... its really like a family so we were all sad when we got to the airport and were all going our different ways... the only downside I can honestly tell you is expect to gain 5lbs.... they cater from an amazing restruarant and always have snacks and desserts out for the girls...
buffie06
11-27-2005, 02:25 PM
Everything is great, definately take your vaca girl, you deserve it! You didn't miss much at work it has been worse than normal $$ wise. Hoping for it to get better, until then I will be working alot more. Really glad to hear how well you did, can't wait to see ya.
Crissychan
11-27-2005, 07:59 PM
Everything is great, definately take your vaca girl, you deserve it! You didn't miss much at work it has been worse than normal $$ wise. Hoping for it to get better, until then I will be working alot more. Really glad to hear how well you did, can't wait to see ya.
Sorry to hear that I know the holidays always get a little slow since so many girls are working... I'll be back again on the second week of December & am going to try and work a couple nights since I'll be home for a couple weeks next time, I've been home a week and now I'm getting kinda lazy feeling and bored
smartcookie
11-27-2005, 10:25 PM
I like the long schedule honestly.... its really like a family so we were all sad when we got to the airport and were all going our different ways... the only downside I can honestly tell you is expect to gain 5lbs.... they cater from an amazing restruarant and always have snacks and desserts out for the girls...
Heh heh...I heard about the weight gain thing. Girl, I'm so glad it worked out well. That is awesome...and like I said before, I think you're going to be meeting a whole lotta people from SW at the Bunny Ranch real soon. But not me. I'm done ho'ing for now.
Crissychan
11-28-2005, 12:51 PM
Heh heh...I heard about the weight gain thing. Girl, I'm so glad it worked out well. That is awesome...and like I said before, I think you're going to be meeting a whole lotta people from SW at the Bunny Ranch real soon. But not me. I'm done ho'ing for now.
Its actually kind hard to get hired.... they get almost 100 applicants a day and have an assistant filter through them but if anyone wants the direct hiring person's # let me know.
modlgrl8
12-05-2005, 11:57 PM
Why is it hard to get hired at the Bunny Ranch, and what is their hiring criteria? There are alot of attractive girls on the site, and a few average. What do they look for? I IM'd you Crissy about the direct hiring person's # almost a week ago, but got no response from you. Can you please IM me or post it?
Crissychan
12-08-2005, 12:32 AM
Why is it hard to get hired at the Bunny Ranch, and what is their hiring criteria? There are alot of attractive girls on the site, and a few average. What do they look for? I IM'd you Crissy about the direct hiring person's # almost a week ago, but got no response from you. Can you please IM me or post it?
I tried PMing you back, it said your box was full.
Its hard becuase most girls stay here and we only have 25-30 rooms. So if at any given time you have 60 regular girls cycling out and in over a month then there is little room to just have "new" girls all the time. They will not have so many girls in the house that no one is making money. Unlike SC's they worry more about the girls making money than just them. PM me again and I will give you the madam's phone #. They look for outgoing, fun girls who enjoy sex. I havn't met any shy girls here and the few that have came in left with-in 2 days. Hope this helps. What are your realistic expectations?
pixiepower329
01-27-2006, 09:39 AM
Congrats Crissy....been reading over on the bunny forum....seems you are doing quite well in your new environment!! Just wanted to congratulate you!!
Crissychan
01-27-2006, 12:55 PM
Congrats Crissy....been reading over on the bunny forum....seems you are doing quite well in your new environment!! Just wanted to congratulate you!!
Thanks babe! I'm lucky.... I was so worried that I would fail and have actually turned out being one of their top girls! I actually tried to go back to dancing when I was home over Christmas.... it was awful.... At least I got to see Buffie!
MulattoKitten
02-01-2006, 09:41 PM
That's what i could never understand. Porn. I mean people get tested, but isn't that kind of putting the cart before the horse? because if you test positive while after doing say a few hundred scenes, you're out and sick, perhaps dying with AIDS....I don't get it.
Pamela
Yeah, plus if you aquire HIV it can take up to 6 months to actually show on tests so...that's still kind of risky. And you are talking about THE Bunny Ranch, correct?
lunchbox
02-07-2006, 10:15 AM
Yeah, plus if you aquire HIV it can take up to 6 months to actually show on tests so...that's still kind of risky. And you are talking about THE Bunny Ranch, correct?
I remember Audrey mentioning that actors/resses take a more expensive test with fast results than the standard test.
HIV is scary, but I don't believe it is an automatic death sentence anymore.
smartcookie
02-07-2006, 11:43 AM
Yeah, plus if you aquire HIV it can take up to 6 months to actually show on tests so...that's still kind of risky. And you are talking about THE Bunny Ranch, correct?
They are tested using the PCR DNA method, which is highly accurate within 48 to 72 hours of exposure to the virus in most cases; in some it's 28 days after exposure.
Considering all sex (oral, digital, insertive) within the brothels is practiced with condoms and other latex barriers, the risk is nearly nil.
Gemini_Syn
02-07-2006, 07:17 PM
um just thought i would let you know that hiedi's place isnt where women work..........men work there. her and hoff are in on it together.
cinammonkisses
02-08-2006, 03:58 AM
Considering all sex (oral, digital, insertive) within the brothels is practiced with condoms and other latex barriers, the risk is nearly nil.
Yea, and tell that to the everyday people who still contract HIV through all these preventative methods. ::)
lunchbox
02-08-2006, 10:06 AM
Yea, and tell that to the everyday people who still contract HIV through all these preventative methods. ::)
Many people do things like get precum on their fingers and then get it on the outside of the condom. Start putting the condom on upside down and it gets precum on what is to be the outside. Finger a woman, get it on your fingers, get it on your dick while giving it a couple rubs before you put your rubber on. etc etc etc
There's million ways to fuck up/get fucked.
bella622
02-08-2006, 10:55 AM
A slight bit off topic... But I just learned that sperm can live in the your body for up to four days... Agggggghhhhhh!!!! I had no idea. They certainly didn't teach me that in sex ed in high school... I don't know how long that I thought it was but... 4 days!!!
I don't know why reading this made me think about it, but it did. I guess the whole safe sex thing...
Note to self... :paperbag: Wrap it up!!!
smartcookie
02-08-2006, 11:41 AM
Yea, and tell that to the everyday people who still contract HIV through all these preventative methods. ::)
Used properly, condoms are 97% effective. Sex workers quickly learn to constantly monitor the condom to look for signs of breakage, slippage, or removal.
Per unprotected sexual act, the probability of HIV transmission is as follows:
Unprotected receptive anal intercourse: 0.008 to 0.032; Unprotected receptive vaginal intercourse: 0.0005 to 0.0015; Unprotected insertive vaginal intercourse: 0.0003 to 0.0009
My stats come from .
A prostitute who practices safer sex is less likely to contract an STD than a person riding in a car is likely to get into an accident and die.
What we have here is pseudo-moral superiority (I'm a stripper therefore I'm better than a prostitute) masquerading as "health concerns."
LittlePixie
02-08-2006, 12:08 PM
I have to agree with smartcookie on the last few things.
It is true that newer more sophisticated HIV tests detect infections withing 30 days of exposure to the virus. They are more expensive so mainly used by the porn industry, most clinics offer the 3-6 month detection tests. Around here anyways.
As for the effectiveness of constant and correct use of condoms to avoid STD including HIV, heps, etc. I also agree that the protection is quite high, I have much first hand experience. I worked myself as an escort for over 8 years and was religious about condom use both in my work activities and personal ones. Never did I catch anything or any of the many other escorts that did like me in the biz. However, I had multiple friends outside the adult industry catching things left and right through one night stands and new relationships, it was astounding! I used to always laugh at them saying "wow, looky looky, the ho is always clean but miss priss here goofed and got clamydia. who would have thunk it?!"
Cinn: Do you have any cites for a high rate of HIV infection or other kind from people correctly using condoms on a regular basis? You kind of make it sound that even with proper protection, people catch it all the time which is quite untrue. I've never seen any HIV or other STD study that indicates regular condom users as a high risk group.
Personally, I'd feel safer working at a brothel than doing any porn uncovered. Yes, the tests are more sophisticated but there is still a 30 day window of possible infection between porn actors and actresses. It's what happened with the last outbreak a year or so ago. Besides, money in porn is surprisingly low. There is much more $$ to be made escorting while avoiding ending up on every guy's PC and it's safer.
My 2 cents ;)
cinammonkisses
02-08-2006, 12:15 PM
Used properly, condoms are 97% effective. Sex workers quickly learn to constantly monitor the condom to look for signs of breakage, slippage, or removal.
Yes, only 97% effective, and that's IF it's used properly. "Quickly learning" to monitor condoms for signs of breakage, slippage, and removal still isnt' doing much.
Oh well what do I know...I just actively involve myself doing community service in HIV/AIDS awareness :-\
cinammonkisses
02-08-2006, 12:18 PM
You kind of make it sound that even with proper protection, people catch it all the time which is quite untrue. I've never seen any HIV or other STD study that indicates regular condom users as a high risk group.
No Pixie, that is not how I'm making it sound. It's just that I hate when people act like HIV/AIDS is not a serious disease, and that just looking at a condom for rips/tears is gonna prevent you from catching something.
smartcookie
02-08-2006, 12:57 PM
I worked myself as an escort for over 8 years and was religious about condom use both in my work activities and personal ones. Never did I catch anything or any of the many other escorts that did like me in the biz. However, I had multiple friends outside the adult industry catching things left and right through one night stands and new relationships, it was astounding! I used to always laugh at them saying "wow, looky looky, the ho is always clean but miss priss here goofed and got clamydia. who would have thunk it?!"
Same here. I worked as an escort for what amounted cumulatively to one year. I practiced safer sex during all that time, I've never had an STD in my life, nor have I ever been pregnant.
london
02-08-2006, 01:38 PM
97% is a very high percentage...Cinn, I love you, but..putting "only" in front of it discredits the fact that this percentage is worth noting...now, if it were 80%, I could understand saying "only", but the pill in preventing pregnancy is "only" about 98-99% effective(1% higher) and yet many women in and out of monogamous relationships, protected or not, readily sign up for the pill in truckloads..at only 98% effectiveness in preventing pregnancy.
madmaxine
02-08-2006, 02:02 PM
(Re: STD transmission & pregnancy) Rhythm Method + Pill + Condom + Washing Up & Possible Douching= in seven years of sexual activity, I did not have a major STD or pregnancy because of the above preventive measures. I paid attention during sex ed in school. In my late teens, I DID get HPV from my monogamous boyfriend, who was carrying a strain of microscopic HPV. I was treated for that.
Lesson here? Look out for Number One & make sure your man is worth your while.
Crissychan
02-08-2006, 04:54 PM
Many people do things like get precum on their fingers and then get it on the outside of the condom. Start putting the condom on upside down and it gets precum on what is to be the outside. Finger a woman, get it on your fingers, get it on your dick while giving it a couple rubs before you put your rubber on. etc etc etc
There's million ways to fuck up/get fucked.
As far as brothels go.... in the 50 plus years the Bunny Ranch has been open we have never had a case of HIV/AIDS. If a guy wants to finger you I make them wear a rubber gloves and if I started putting a condom on and it was upside down we simply throw it away. I do not touch a penis with a condom on it. Even for a handjob. Our HIV test have a 3 week turn around, but trust me we pay alot for it.
Working in the sex industry comes with the known risk of contracting something just as a police office runs the risk of getting shot.
NinaDaisy
02-08-2006, 10:34 PM
As someone actively involved in the healthcare community as well, I have to agree with Smartcookie's comments. Cinn, you might not like what she has to say, but that doesn't make it inaccurate.
Sure, being an escort carries some risks. In a lot of cases, STD's can be the least of your worries if you get a client who is set on hurting you. But the same thing can happen in a SC too if some guy decides to choke you to death in a champagne room.
Basically it's the same risk vs. rewards scenario. If you know the potential rewards, manage the risk as much as you can. And the best way to do that (short of abstinence, which probably wouldn't go over too well at the ranch) is to use barriers consistently and properly.
NinaDaisy
02-09-2006, 12:29 AM
But to get back to the topic at hand, I do believe that many of the SW girls were asking about this out of much more that mere curiosity. I wish I could do a Venn diagram to see the overlap of women asking questions vs. those that actually end up working there. Hmmmmm.
KCKitty
02-09-2006, 01:36 AM
Crissychan, did you get to work with Christy Morrell? I heard that she was there a few months ago. Meet up with her?
Lizette
02-09-2006, 02:16 AM
I have to wonder how many kids she had before she earned those flapjacks. The shot after the breastlift is much, much better.
Post the after pic!
For those who are or have been involved in escorting: What about herpes? Some estimates say that 25% of US citizens have it on their genitals. Personally, I think that estimate is on the high side. But I digress ... A person can catch it when no sores are present on an infected partner. Also, what do you do if a client has an outbreak? I know these questions seem silly -- almost as silly as the "What should my stage name be!?!?!" threads, but not quite :) -- but I've been dying of curiosity ever since I saw Belle de Jour. Thank you!
NinaDaisy
02-09-2006, 10:32 AM
(Re: STD transmission & pregnancy) Rhythm Method + Pill + Condom + Washing Up & Possible Douching= in seven years of sexual activity, I did not have a major STD or pregnancy because of the above preventive measures. I paid attention during sex ed in school. In my late teens, I DID get HPV from my monogamous boyfriend, who was carrying a strain of microscopic HPV. I was treated for that.
Lesson here? Look out for Number One & make sure your man is worth your while.
This actually brings up another question for me.
Is douching common at the ranch? I know it might sound silly but since women there often potentially see several clients a day, I wonder if that's a habit there. It doesn't really have to do the volume of clients, but I'm curious if the women do it for any number of reasons.
Yeah, I know it might sound a bit weird.
I'm not judgemental about the volume of clients, I've just personally never been able to have sex five times in a day, even with someone that I was crazy about.
Is soreness ever an issue?
LittlePixie
02-09-2006, 01:51 PM
For those who are or have been involved in escorting: What about herpes? Some estimates say that 25% of US citizens have it on their genitals. Personally, I think that estimate is on the high side. But I digress ... A person can catch it when no sores are present on an infected partner. Also, what do you do if a client has an outbreak? I know these questions seem silly -- almost as silly as the "What should my stage name be!?!?!" threads, but not quite :) -- but I've been dying of curiosity ever since I saw Belle de Jour. Thank you!
You raise a very good point about herpes statistics, I would also throw in HPV which also has been estimated to be present in 25-30% of the adult population. A woman choosing to escort should realistically expect to run in to these and/or get infected with these 2 STDs as they are just so common and easily transmissible even with the use of latex condoms.
That said, it is possible to screen out potentially very infective people with a quick visual exam looking for any sign of outbreaks. There is of course still plenty of risk that a person is carrying but not exhibiting symptoms but a visual check still seems to be able to curb down the instances of infection, even if only by a little.
Strangely enough, with my extensive experiences as an escort I've never been diagnosed with either of these two STDs as well as any other. Dozens and dozens of tests over years that were always clear and never a symptom. Even the docs were surprised that I never showed any signs of these STD infections. I don't know if I'm a freak case in that regard or just really damn lucky, whichever one it is I am very thankful for anyways!
Another easily transmissible STD that any escort should protect themselves against is Hepatitis B. Vaccinations are available and very effective