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cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 02:48 PM
Is it that outlandish to think she might have gotten a very luck run and made 100K once? Perhaps during the heydays of the tech boom? Its possible. I've made 10K a week stripping on a few occasions, it doesn't seem too inconceivable.
not impossible...just improbable
And if you are talking about the 1990's tech boom, she isnt old enough for that. Her myspace says she is 24 which means she was born in 1993!
TigersMilk
07-15-2007, 03:08 PM
Um there are some math issues with 1993 birth year. She was born in 1983.
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 03:14 PM
Um there are some math issues with 1993 birth year. She was born in 1983.
Ha...my bad ..I meant to write that I swear...still too young. That would have her turning 18 in 1991. So I suppose she could have hit the end of the tech boom if she started at 18...I'm not 100% positive, but wasnt that pretty much done by 93 or so?
crizgolfer
07-15-2007, 03:18 PM
Ha...my bad ..I meant to write that I swear...still too young. That would have her turning 18 in 1991. So I suppose she could have hit the end of the tech boom if she started at 18...I'm not 100% positive, but wasnt that pretty much done by 93 or so?
;D uuuuuhhhhh....she would have been 8 in 1991....;)
Crow2
07-15-2007, 03:18 PM
It is possible - prices for activities at Sheri's are high dollar stuff.
they have bungalows that can be low-balled (no pun intended) at the starting price of three grand - usually they go for a lot more. Then again you have to have some seriously good game talking skills and or go the bulk volume route.
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 03:22 PM
;D uuuuuhhhhh....she would have been 8 in 1991....;)
ARGHhh...what the hell is wrong with me today????? I thought that didnt sound right!! I knew damn well when I first saw her age she wasnt old enough to be a working girl in the 90's... this is what happens when I dont get enough sleep damn it. Math skills are the first to go!!
18 in 2001...I think I got it right this time. If not..dammit, just strip me naked, pour honey on me and tie me to an anthill.
I'm going to bow out of this debate and accept that sure, $100,000 in 2 weeks. Hell I obviously cant freakin' add so who am I to argue someone elses math skills today??LOL!
crizgolfer
07-15-2007, 03:34 PM
ARGHhh...what the hell is wrong with me today????? I thought that didnt sound right!! I knew damn well when I first saw her age she wasnt old enough to be a working girl in the 90's... this is what happens when I dont get enough sleep damn it. Math skills are the first to go!!
18 in 2001...I think I got it right this time. If not..dammit, just strip me naked, pour honey on me and tie me to an anthill.
I'm going to bow out of this debate and accept that sure, $100,000 in 2 weeks. Hell I obviously cant freakin' add so who am I to argue someone elses math skills today??LOL!
Just wanted to let you know...you are very beautiful when you do math...;)
Kaylinn
07-15-2007, 03:37 PM
^^ Right. And the ranches aren't exactly as busy as a strip club. tehre are days when noone comes in. And even if guys do come in, they won't alwyas pick you. And even if the do pick you, they may not want full sex, or they may not be willign to pay yoru asking price. Which means you wasted your time in negotiations, or you have to agree to go down in price.
And the ranches aren't like a strip club where you walk up to a guy and run yrou game. A guy walks in, girls line up and you either get picked or you don't. Even as beautiful as she is, we all know that all guys go for differnet looks. And even if you do get picked, you still have to go through negotiations, where he may change his mind, or not pass the dick check, or whatever.
I think they only way to get to 100k in 2 weeks would be to have veyr high end clientele, but she said she only worked there for a short time, so unless she brought her clients with her, I don't see how it is possible.
Of course, you can alwyas get lucky, and it's possibel she got lucky with just a few very rich clients, but then 100k wouldn't be an average, it would be just a very good 2 weeks.
Would anyone here believe me if I said I averaged 2grand a night? Even if I said I worked 12 hour shifts, we all knwo that getting a consistant 2grand a night would be near impossible.
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Just wanted to let you know...you are very beautiful when you do math...;)
I know...it's that DUH look on my face and the really hot vein that throbs in my forehead..you know you love it! If you REALLY want to be turned on...you should watch me attempt calculus. My head almost explodes. Sexy!
to quote Madonna:
" I'm no mathemetician..all I know is addition......keep the number mounting, your accountant does the counting.."
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:01 PM
i worked there long enough to have 4 checks one for 98,800 (yes i rounded up) and i was there for two an a half weeks for that check
one for 75k even was there two and a half weeks
one for 35,500
and one for 18,980
hence why i said 20k to 100k
i know girls who made more then me and girls who made alot less then me
yes i do think i got seriously lucky with several high rollers one of which who has been very generous to help me financially through this pregnancy
I was just trying to help was all i dont want people to think im trying to sway anything was just saying and if you noticed each visit the checks dropped
I didnt think by posting it i would get such negative responses
Lysondra
07-15-2007, 04:03 PM
^ Oh see! When you said 'a couple weeks' we thought you meant in two weeks you got a 20k cheque AND a 100k cheque. At least that's how I read it.
crizgolfer
07-15-2007, 04:07 PM
I know...it's that DUH look on my face and the really hot vein that throbs in my forehead..you know you love it! If you REALLY want to be turned on...you should watch me attempt calculus. My head almost explodes. Sexy!
to quote Madonna:
" I'm no mathemetician..all I know is addition......keep the number mounting, your accountant does the counting.."
Calculus??? Oh my....call 9-1-1...or a priest...
(Just so you know 9 and 1 and 1 is 11) ....;)
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:08 PM
trust me i wish no i didnt i called my work time breif cuz most the girls there have been working there years i did 4 two week trips and each declining (with rules that where just absolutely horrid and unconstitutional popping up every trip)
hope breaking it down explains it better
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 04:11 PM
i worked there long enough to have 4 checks one for 98,800 (yes i rounded up) and i was there for two an a half weeks for that check
one for 75k even was there two and a half weeks
one for 35,500
and one for 18,980
hence why i said 20k to 100k
i know girls who made more then me and girls who made alot less then me
yes i do think i got seriously lucky with several high rollers one of which who has been very generous to help me financially through this pregnancy
I was just trying to help was all i dont want people to think im trying to sway anything was just saying and if you noticed each visit the checks dropped
I didnt think by posting it i would get such negative responses
OK...now Im confused. You said on the last page that your last trip you barley cleared 5K.
but that last time i was there i barely broke 5k for the two weeks.
Now you say your lowest was $18,980..???
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 04:15 PM
Calculus??? Oh my....call 9-1-1...or a priest...
(Just so you know 9 and 1 and 1 is 11) ....;)
Bite me. :neener:
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:16 PM
i didnt stay long enough to count it as a trip was there 3 days and only got that money from a pulled costomer not from a sheris customer
Lysondra
07-15-2007, 04:23 PM
and to add another brief point here I as i said i worked there briefly it could have been a run of good luck or whatever but that last time i was there i barely broke 5k for the two weeks. combine that with the new rules they established I never went back.
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i didnt stay long enough to count it as a trip was there 3 days and only got that money from a pulled costomer not from a sheris customer
Elaborate?
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:30 PM
ok i was booked in for two weeks which you have to schedrule in advance HOWEVER I did NOT stay the two weeks I stayed three days they mailed my check to me AFTER taking out the fines for leaving early and every other thing they could think to fine me for. the check i recieved was just under 5k instead of staying at the ranch i went to the vegas strip clubs and tried them out for the remainder of the two weeks i had booked out there (plane tickets are cheaper round trip) after that whole thing I never went back part of which was due to a new rule and arguement with the "madame" about wether or not I HAD to have sex with ANY man for 150$ so yes it was a schedruled trip NO i didt stay the two weeks and the money all came from a customer who had been bugging me scince he saw the ONLY porno I did
does that make more sence or should i just give up explaining and just let it go?
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:32 PM
btw they take half so $150 is $75 to me which personally I was offended they would mandate something like that
Lysondra
07-15-2007, 04:33 PM
I'm trying this new 'not being a bitter whore who thinks everyone is lying' thing. So I'll go ahead and believe you. :P
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:34 PM
thank you for the benifit of the doubt like i said i meant no controversy and im pretty sure I got seriously lucky
not to mention several of the girls helped ALOT (passing customers or pulling me into big parties)
cameron_keys
07-15-2007, 04:38 PM
btw they take half so $150 is $75 to me which personally I was offended they would mandate something like that
Full sex for $75 net???? Are you SERIOUS??? Umm..yeah..I'd be a bit offended at that too.
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:39 PM
yeah thats why i quite EVERYONE HAD to take the house minimum even if the guy was gross and wanted sex it was my last straw
TigersMilk
07-15-2007, 04:44 PM
What other cuts of services did the house take? Thats crazy they would take so much.
Lysondra
07-15-2007, 04:45 PM
What other cuts of services did the house take? Thats crazy they would take so much.
It's pretty common, here at least, for brothels to take half. That's why a lot of girls here switch to private outcall/incall girls within a few weeks.
poisondesire
07-15-2007, 04:47 PM
if you leave earlier then schedruled they fine you my fine was 1500, um pretty much everything I got fined once for saying my name was expensive in line up (story behind why i did that though) if you arent dressed for your shift to there specifications.... um if you dont how up to line ups or bar calls (even if you are in the restroom or shower) You get fined for what they call a messy room which could mean anything from you left your perfume out all the way to your beds not made. i cant list al the fines here they have a whole booklet
Crow2
07-15-2007, 05:29 PM
The house takes half - of everything. Including your tips. If the guy travels there by limo or cab - house gets thirty percent.
Plus you have to pay rent for your room, you pay for your own doctor visits and tests, license. Traveling expenses. There is a fee for leaving early. Plus there's a ton of other little fines you can rack up for bad behavior and so forth.
greenidlady1
07-15-2007, 06:39 PM
Why does the house get less if they arrive by limo or cab? Does the girl get more if they do arrive in a cab or limo?
Golden_Rule
07-15-2007, 06:46 PM
Bunny Ranch gals telling you they get $5G/hr is like dancers looking you in the eye and telling you they make $3G a shift and don't do any extras for that kind of money.
The average gal at the BR isn't Sunset Thomas pulling in "feature" money for a party. The average gal is getting between $400-$600/hr and gives the house half.
That isn't chicken scratch though, as if she averages five one hour parties a day during a five 12 hour shift per day week she has 25 X 500 [average] =$12500 / 2 [house cut] =$6250 for the week for 25 hours of actual work and 35 hours or so of sitting around and prep work. 40 weeks of that banks her a cool quarter million [$250,000.00] with 12 weeks off during the year to party.
yoda57us
07-15-2007, 07:03 PM
That isn't chicken scratch though, as if she averages five one hour parties a day during a five 12 hour shift per day week she has 25 X 500 [average] =$12500 / 2 [house cut] =$6250 for the week for 25 hours of actual work and 35 hours or so of sitting around and prep work. 40 weeks of that banks her a cool quarter million [$250,000.00] with 12 weeks off during the year to party.
Um, no offense to anyone reading here who might see five guys a day five days a week, but I wouldn't go near a lady that does that kind of volume. If thats the requirement at a place like the Bunny Ranch more power to ya' but I will stick to my low volume GFE's at $300 an hour...
skoolgirl
07-15-2007, 07:41 PM
Um, no offense to anyone reading here who might see five guys a day five days a week, but I wouldn't go near a lady that does that kind of volume. If thats the requirement at a place like the Bunny Ranch more power to ya' but I will stick to my low volume GFE's at $300 an hour...
Why do you take issue with ladies seeing several clients a day? Just curious. I know two ladies who escort (GFE) and they see 3 to 4 clients a day and work 5 days a week. One charges $350 an hour and the other charges $300. Both are independent. They probably tell clients like you that they only see 1 or 2 appointments a day to make them feel better. *eyeroll* One guy in particular demands to be the first appointment of the day because he refuses to go after someone else. lol You know what these ladies do for a living, why do you care how many clients she sees daily? Not trying to start an argument but statements like yours really make me laugh.
Kaylinn
07-15-2007, 08:16 PM
Right, LOL. You pay for a prostitute, then expect that she hasn't had sex with anyone else but you?
miabella
07-15-2007, 08:47 PM
well, some dancers get jealous if a regular of theirs gets dances with other girls...
it goes in both directions.
on-topic, i wonder if there are accurate stats for average and median earnings at the legal brothels in nevada. the last time i checked into averages, the highest average (not median) was about 400/hr after house-half, but i don't know if that factored in all incidental expenses.
unfortunately i cannot recall the site where the data on hourly rates compared to illegal escorts was located.
also it would be interesting to track earnings patterns over the last two decades...
Katrine
07-15-2007, 09:28 PM
Um, no offense to anyone reading here who might see five guys a day five days a week, but I wouldn't go near a lady that does that kind of volume. If thats the requirement at a place like the Bunny Ranch more power to ya' but I will stick to my low volume GFE's at $300 an hour...
Sorry sweets, but that's the way it works. Don't think your low-vol GFE isn't the same. But being that she is GFE, you'll never know!! Aaaah, I recall fondly how many guys thought they were the first to be able to bang me for the right price.
yoda57us
07-16-2007, 07:35 AM
Ladies. No offense to any of you but I wasn't born yesterday. I know what the job is but I also make it a habit to know who I'm paying. I've had my share of high volume ladies and my share of strippers who "only did it for me" for every guy with the right amount of cash. I have no problem with a woman doing whatever she wants to do for a living as often as she wants to do it.
I don't think any of you will find anything in my previous post to indicate that I only book with virgins or women that only see one guy a day (though one lady I see does in fact only see one customer a day) All I am talking about here is my preference and the fact that I can tell the difference. Any guy that has done this for a while and has half a brain can tell the difference as well.
I've never been to a brothel but I do understand how they work, which is one of the reasons I've never been to one. Most of the agency girls I see work two or three days a week for six or eight hours a day. They don't book half hour appointments and they don't book appointments back to back so, if you want to do the math, you will find that their volume is considerably less than what it sounds like goes on in the Nevada brothels.
My comments in my first post are based on GR's estimates and I stand behind my statements in regards to my personal preferences. Again, I don't have a problem with any lady seeing ten guys a day if that works for her. I just won't be one of them.
LuckiCharm
07-16-2007, 12:49 PM
But Yoda- You say you can "tell". How can you tell if the girl has or has not been with 4 other men right before you?
yoda57us
07-16-2007, 05:41 PM
But Yoda- You say you can "tell". How can you tell if the girl has or has not been with 4 other men right before you?
Obviously I'm not a mind reader. I'm not really saying I can tell how many customers a woman has had on any given day before she sees me. What I am saying is that I can tell the difference between a high volume lady and a lower volume lady. How? Honestly, I'm not going to open that can of worms here as there is no way to talk about it without possibly hurting or insulting someone and that is not what I'm here for. As I said, I have no issue with whatever a woman decides will work for her. I just know what works for me.
miabella
07-16-2007, 08:39 PM
well, what's the borderline between 'high volume' and 'low volume' to you?
Yekhefah
07-16-2007, 10:45 PM
"Low Volume" = "Allows me to convince myself that I'm special."
I'd be willing to wager that Yoda's whores see just as many clients per day as your average Bunny Ranch gal, but the circumstances are such that he can convince himself he's the only one. Hey, whatever it takes for the fantasy.
LuckiCharm
07-16-2007, 11:00 PM
Yoda- I wasn't being sarcastic, I really was asking how you feel that you can tell between high and low volume. Escorts weren't born yesterday either. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you can actually tell the volume level of an escorts clintelle. If you have fun with the girl, then it shouldn't matter anyway.
miabella
07-16-2007, 11:11 PM
i don't think in this instance he should worry about offending. this site is primarily strippers and the escorts that are here are pretty unlikely to bust out crying because some guy on the internets has his own system for distinguishing 'high volume girls' from 'low volume girls'.
Kaylinn
07-16-2007, 11:18 PM
I'm thinking it has to do with how loose she is, but if you go by that....some women are just looser than others. So just cause she didn't feel so tight, doesn't mean she had 5 others clients that day. And don't they make tighten up cream that works pretty well? I read a whole long thread on it here, ested by a bunch of SWers who said it made them tighter.
Or maybe he judges by how beat her pussy looks at the time, but I'm assuming a woman in the business of sex would know how to make her vagina appear to be brand new and in top shape before each customer, no mater how many times she got banged that day.
Just as strippers have their stay fresh secrets, I'm sure prostitutes also have their secrets.
But liek Yek said...whatever works to keep the fantasy alive, I guess. Obviously, the girls he sees are good at their job.
miabella
07-16-2007, 11:31 PM
i suspect he is meaning psychological and emotional cues rather than physical state of the body, honestly. but women are very versatile even in that respect...
LuckiCharm
07-16-2007, 11:54 PM
Yea they got the tightening stuff. Or some girls put a spice called allum in their baths or douche and it makes it tighter too. There ARE tricks, it's impossible to tell whether an escort's business is "high or low volume" if she plays the part well.
Lysondra
07-17-2007, 12:41 AM
I agree he meant the tightness of a vagina.
Which kegals fix if the whore is smart. He's just going to a smarter whore.
miabella
07-17-2007, 01:11 AM
he has been a customer for long enough to be aware of the tightness thing, i am wildly presuming. i mean, it just seems a little too obvious for him to bust out with 'omg i will insult someone if i mention my supar sekrit methods!!!' over.
whores have emotional and psychological kit, too. it is disrespectful to whores generally to presume that physical markers are the only sign they'd have to convince or demonstrate to customers that they were selective girls.
skoolgirl
07-17-2007, 03:51 AM
"Low Volume" = "Allows me to convince myself that I'm special."
I'd be willing to wager that Yoda's whores see just as many clients per day as your average Bunny Ranch gal, but the circumstances are such that he can convince himself he's the only one. Hey, whatever it takes for the fantasy.
Exactly! I would argue that the only high volume escorts are the ones who charge $1,000 or more for a couple hours. And someone who thinks they can "tell" how sexually active a woman is by the tightness of her vagina obviously never heard of kegels.
Kaylinn
07-17-2007, 04:05 AM
i suspect he is meaning psychological and emotional cues rather than physical state of the body, honestly. but women are very versatile even in that respect...
Psycological or emotional cues? She's a whore, in the business of sex. I mean...If I sell 30 lapdances, I might be worn out, but I can act liek the 30th guy was my first if that's what it takes to get the sale.
She's a whore, she can pretend that the 10th dick that day was the 1st, no matter how emotionally or physicially worn out she may be. It's just her job to pretend to enjoy each and every dick liek it was the first one, and if she can't do that, she isn't so great at her job, so to me anyway...the girls he's seeing are good at their jobs.
And on the off chance she is selective and low volume, she must be very expensive. You get what you pay for right? the less used she is, the more expensive?
yoda57us
07-17-2007, 05:49 AM
well, what's the borderline between 'high volume' and 'low volume' to you?
High volume: Any girl who works for an agency that books 30 minute appointments, any indy on Craig's List who has "lollipop specials" or 15 and 30 minute "quickie" rates, any MP or AMP situation....any girl who works for a pimp. Any girl who asks "are you close yet" ten minutes into the session. This is a start....
Low Volume: Works a few days a week for an agency or as an indy, Takes time off to recharge when necessary may have a real world career or is in school. There are also many Indy ladies who see only one customer a day for extended visits. These women exist and exist in large numbers weather you ladies believe it or not.
"Low Volume" = "Allows me to convince myself that I'm special."
I'd be willing to wager that Yoda's whores see just as many clients per day as your average Bunny Ranch gal, but the circumstances are such that he can convince himself he's the only one. Hey, whatever it takes for the fantasy.
Yek, I've never said I need to be the only guy a lady sees on a given day. My "fantasy" is to spend a couple of hours having wild sex and great conversation with a beautiful and intelligent woman. I always book the last appointment of the day when I see an agency girl. Obviously she has had other appointments that day. If I cared that much about being the "only guy" I would book her first appointment...Believe it or not I do know, on average, how many guys my regulars see and I have no problem with it.
Yoda- I wasn't being sarcastic, I really was asking how you feel that you can tell between high and low volume. Escorts weren't born yesterday either. Just don't fool yourself into thinking you can actually tell the volume level of an escorts clintelle. If you have fun with the girl, then it shouldn't matter anyway.
LC, I know you were not being sarcastic and I don't think that my response was sarcastic either. I'm very well aware that all of my regulars are pro's. and see client's on a very regular basis.
My point is that, when I have fun with the girl and she becomes a regular of mine part of the reason is because she is a lower volume provider.
Some of you ladies have come up with some fairly comical notions regarding just how it is that you think I am judging "volume". To put it bluntly most of it is way off base. I'd have to say that, in some cases, your prejudices are showing...
Escorting is not stripping. Escorts are not selling a fantasy, they are selling their services for an hour or more. Their are a lot of advantages that a stripper has over a customer in the club environment. Most of those advantages go out the window once a lady climbs into bed with a guy. Guys who pay escorts are buying reality, not a fantasy. I've seen a number of escorts over the years who once were dancers and the funny thing is they all prefer escorting because the BS factor is gone. Everyone knows exactly what they are there for.
I don't cruise the track picking up street walkers and I don't visit brothels or MP's. Heck, these days I rarely even get involved with "extras girls" at the clubs I go to. I've been doing this for a while and I have learned what works for me and what doesn't. I know how and where to find the ladies that I prefer to spend my time and money on. I don't harbor any unrealistic notions that I am her "only" customer or that I am "special". I just want a good time for a couple of hours. It's not rocket science. Oh, and by the way, I'm not special. Any guy who is serious about this learns how to separate the wheat from the chaff. A bad escorting experience is a lot more wasted cash than a bad lap dance.
SW's primary focus is obviously not escorting and the POV here is going to be largely from the ladie's side. If you really want to try and understand what I'm talking about spend some time on TER's local or national discussion boards. The client/provider ratio there is a lot more balanced and most of the ladies who post there are intelligent and very up front about what they do...and low volume....
LuckiCharm
07-17-2007, 08:48 AM
Some of you ladies have come up with some fairly comical notions regarding just how it is that you think I am judging "volume". To put it bluntly most of it is way off base. I'd have to say that, in some cases, your prejudices are showing...
....
How are we being prejudice?