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miabella
07-17-2007, 10:45 AM
probably that idea that it was all about 'tightness' and the assumptions about escort motivations.

yoda's own comments are closer to what i had been suggesting and based on his own statements, it is quite valid to assess an escort as low volume by such criteria.

i do find it telling that the same strippers who can make lots of money off 1-2 customers (i know that was my own preferred way of club hustling) refuse to consider the possibility that some escorts might be doing the same at a midrange rate (300 or so per hour).

i think that yoda appears to primarily see escorts who deal with the potential burnout of escorting by not fucking that many guys in the first place. and surely there are girls not charging 1k+ per hour who've decided to be choicy, you know?

i mean, the stripping equivalent would be a dancer who refused to admit that dances can be more than mechanical grinding or robotic posing.

skoolgirl
07-17-2007, 11:24 AM
Some of you ladies have come up with some fairly comical notions regarding just how it is that you think I am judging "volume". To put it bluntly most of it is way off base. I'd have to say that, in some cases, your prejudices are showing...


Au contraire! I worked as an escort agency receptionist for a service that was coincidently enough based in Boston. So there's a chance you and I may have spoken at one time or another! ;D I think most dancers like myself are pretty open minded. And speaking as someone who has scheduled appointments for ladies I can tell you that the majority want to take as many appointments as they can. I even scheduled for a cute co-ed who worked 1 day a week and even she took at least four appointments a day if she could. Keep in mind we didn't have 30 minute appointments although most of the time I booked the appointments 30 minutes apart to allow the ladies to freshen up. Anyway it's my belief that most GFE ladies are not low volume unless they are HDH who charge four figures for the hour, and even they will book as many appointments as possible. This is a business!

You certainly have the right to your preferences. No argument from me. Just because we questioned you doesn't make us close minded.

Lysondra
07-17-2007, 03:55 PM
That's my next dream job to settle down into after this one. Prostitute's receptionist. The private ones get paid very very well here, but that's because they deal with the girl's safety, too. But it would be a way to calm down and still get paid well.

skoolgirl
07-17-2007, 04:07 PM
That's my next dream job to settle down into after this one. Prostitute's receptionist. The private ones get paid very very well here, but that's because they deal with the girl's safety, too. But it would be a way to calm down and still get paid well.

It's actually not a bad gig. I would have continued but unfortunately the owner closed down the agency to pursue other businesses. But it was a nice change of pace. I didn't make as much as I did dancing but at least I got to work from home.

yoda57us
07-17-2007, 04:09 PM
How are we being prejudice?

I didn't come here to flame or be flamed so I have no intention of pointing out any specific references. However it's obvious as I read through the comments here that some of you ladies have an issue with escorting and a penchant for believing in the stereotypes.


probably that idea that it was all about 'tightness' and the assumptions about escort motivations.

yoda's own comments are closer to what i had been suggesting and based on his own statements, it is quite valid to assess an escort as low volume by such criteria.

i do find it telling that the same strippers who can make lots of money off 1-2 customers (i know that was my own preferred way of club hustling) refuse to consider the possibility that some escorts might be doing the same at a midrange rate (300 or so per hour).

i think that yoda appears to primarily see escorts who deal with the potential burnout of escorting by not fucking that many guys in the first place. and surely there are girls not charging 1k+ per hour who've decided to be choicy, you know?

i mean, the stripping equivalent would be a dancer who refused to admit that dances can be more than mechanical grinding or robotic posing.

Yep!


Au contraire! I worked as an escort agency receptionist for a service that was coincidently enough based in Boston. So there's a chance you and I may have spoken at one time or another! ;D I think most dancers like myself are pretty open minded. And speaking as someone who has scheduled appointments for ladies I can tell you that the majority want to take as many appointments as they can. I even scheduled for a cute co-ed who worked 1 day a week and even she took at least four appointments a day if she could. Keep in mind we didn't have 30 minute appointments although most of the time I booked the appointments 30 minutes apart to allow the ladies to freshen up. Anyway it's my belief that most GFE ladies are not low volume unless they are HDH who charge four figures for the hour, and even they will book as many appointments as possible. This is a business!

You certainly have the right to your preferences. No argument from me. Just because we questioned you doesn't make us close minded.

Well, first of all I think many dancers are open minded, I sensed that a few of the comments on this thread are not. I'm not indicting all dancers or all of the comments that I have read here.
Secondly, if you read my previous posts I consider a gal who works two or three days a week booking four appointments a day to be within my definition of acceptable volume. I understand very well that this is a business. I am a customer and also a friend to a couple of ladies who have done this for quite a few years.
Believe it or not, one of my current regulars actually has a fairly extensive do not see list that consists mainly of guys who are too aggressive for her liking and only works a six hour shift 2 days a week. She works for a well known Boston agency at the going rate. The gal before her worked three days one or two weeks a month and another fav who is located out of town is an indy gal who sees two or three regulars a week tops.
Not all agencies will allow the ladies to be as selective as the one I use in town. It's fairly easy to determine by reading schedules, policies and reviews were there might be trouble.

Katrine
07-17-2007, 08:16 PM
What's up with some of you just randomly calling escorts "whores" in every sentence? I mean, it is what it is, but my interweb-sensors are channeling huge disrespect.

TigersMilk
07-17-2007, 09:15 PM
Yea I read that too. I was like whores...where? They are e s c o r t s.

Lysondra
07-17-2007, 11:58 PM
What's up with some of you just randomly calling escorts "whores" in every sentence? I mean, it is what it is, but my interweb-sensors are channeling huge disrespect.

Where I live, escorts are whore are hookers are prostitutes, which is why I say it. It's not meant to be insulting, it's just what they are. They hook, they sell their body, they whore. Even my friend continuously says she doesn't care if people call her whore or escort or anything, it's not offensive, it's what she is.

Laylas
07-18-2007, 12:12 AM
Where I live, escorts are whore are hookers are prostitutes, which is why I say it. It's not meant to be insulting, it's just what they are. They hook, they sell their body, they whore. Even my friend continuously says she doesn't care if people call her whore or escort or anything, it's not offensive, it's what she is.

I agree with this train of thought. The reason it is so un-PC/offensive is because it is used in the wrong context so frequently.

Kaylinn
07-18-2007, 01:17 AM
Where I live, escorts are whore are hookers are prostitutes, which is why I say it. It's not meant to be insulting, it's just what they are. They hook, they sell their body, they whore. Even my friend continuously says she doesn't care if people call her whore or escort or anything, it's not offensive, it's what she is.

That's what I thought. All the same. Just like exotic dancer or stripper. Stripper is the "insulting" term...but who here is insulted by it? I mean, this is even called Stripperweb.

I certainly didn't use whore in a demeaning sense.

Whore just gets a bad name because it gets thrown around to much. Just the other day I yelled at my boyfriend, some girl cut him off in traffic, and he yelled out the window, "ya dumb whore!" I yelled at him for that. It's throwing the word around in that way that makes it bad. Calling a prostitute a whore isn't bad. Prostitute might be more polticially correct, like exotic dancer...but it's still all the same thing.

Yekhefah
07-18-2007, 01:49 AM
Agreed with all of the above. Technically, we strippers belong to the "whore class" - women who profit from sexuality. I don't mean "whore" to be offensive at all. I do have a bit of a problem with the term "escort" because there are escorts who don't sell sex and technically the term "escort" exists to disqualify prostitution. "Whore" just seems like the simplest term.

yoda57us
07-18-2007, 04:37 AM
What's up with some of you just randomly calling escorts "whores" in every sentence? I mean, it is what it is, but my interweb-sensors are channeling huge disrespect.

whore

noun (plural whores)
Definition: 1. an offensive term for a prostitute

2. an offensive term for somebody regarded as being sexually indiscriminate

3. an offensive term for somebody who is regarded as willing to set aside principles or personal integrity in order to obtain something, usually for selfish motives

I'm with Kat on this one. Regardless of what some prostitutes and some of you ladies may deem acceptable the word has a pejorative connotation even among many women in the sex industry and always has. Fact is, most of the ladies I see DO NOT like the word at all and don't refer to themselves with it.

If you and your circle of friends find it acceptable that's fine but it really shouldn't be used to generalize what a prostitute is and I think it's particularly inappropriate in this or any internet forum where we are all basically strangers and don't know what slang may be offensive to someone else.

Of course, as a very wise stripper once told me: It's not what you call me, it's what I answer to that matters...

Lysondra
07-18-2007, 04:47 AM
whore (hôr, hr)
n.
1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
intr.v. whored, whor·ing, whores
1. To associate or have sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations.
3. To compromise one's principles for personal gain.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whore

We look at different dictionaries.

Jenny
07-18-2007, 06:41 AM
Thank you Kat - I have been reading, but I didn't want to say anything. I can't believe that people are actually contesting that "whore" is a pejorative term. I do not think it is the same as "exotic dancer" and "stripper" - I would say it is closer to punk calling us cock-grinders or cum dumpsters. Even that isn't exactly accurate because "whore" is also a general use and fairly serious insult against women.

Not to change the subject, but Yoda, was it just me or were the girls really asking how you knew the girls you saw were low volume, not so much contesting whether low volume girls existed?

yoda57us
07-18-2007, 06:44 AM
whore (hôr, hr)
n.
1. A prostitute.
2. A person considered sexually promiscuous.
3. A person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain.
intr.v. whored, whor·ing, whores
1. To associate or have sexual relations with prostitutes or a prostitute.
2. To accept payment in exchange for sexual relations.
3. To compromise one's principles for personal gain.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whore

We look at different dictionaries.

Indeed we do. The fact that the interpretations vary so widely is all the more reason why I consider it an inappropriate word to generalize with in a forum such as this. Weather intended or not, one simply has no way of knowing who one might be offending.

yoda57us
07-18-2007, 06:53 AM
Not to change the subject, but Yoda, was it just me or were the girls really asking how you knew the girls you saw were low volume, not so much contesting whether low volume girls existed?

Honestly Jenny I think it was a little of both. Of course I have no way of reading minds, only the posts. I'm being intentionally vague and not quoting any particular responses. I'm well aware that I'm lurking in an estrogen dominated zone here and I'm not trying to start any wars...besides, the guy who's post I originally responded to seems to have bailed on this thread and has turned out to be fairly clueless any way....so on with the fun....

LuckiCharm
07-18-2007, 11:12 AM
I think the girls were arguing that it's hard for a client to know for sure whether an escort works high or low volume, not that low volume escorts are non exsistant.

Lysondra
07-18-2007, 04:24 PM
Indeed we do. The fact that the interpretations vary so widely is all the more reason why I consider it an inappropriate word to generalize with in a forum such as this. Weather intended or not, one simply has no way of knowing who one might be offending.

Hm. Perhaps it's because I live in a place now where it's legal, but nobody here finds whore an insult unless it's incorrect. A stripper would be mad you called her a whore but a whore would not. *shrug* I guess since the careers and job aspects of each type of sexual worker are more clearly divided, the term whore becomes more acceptable in general society.

Christian*Doll*
07-18-2007, 04:49 PM
Its funny that you know what ALL PROSTITUTES find offensive just coz its legal.

LuckiCharm
07-18-2007, 04:56 PM
About "whore" being offensive or not, people use different words for things in different areas. Especially when you're talking about different countries. Maybe in Australia, they say "whore" instead of "prostitute". Sure, we find it very offensive, but it's just like people taking the word "bitch" and twisting it around. I still feel weird when they say that word at dog shows but hey, they're calling it what it is, a female dog.

Lysondra
07-18-2007, 05:01 PM
Its funny that you know what ALL PROSTITUTES find offensive just coz its legal.

I'm not saying ALL prostitutes, I'm saying 'general society'. Perhaps it's a cultural thing, is what I'm saying. Most people call prostitutes 'prozzies' here, though. I just haven't met a single girl yet who was offended by the word. It's used purely as a description (like Lucki said - a bitch to describe a female dog) word. She's a whore. Not in any offensive term.. it's not even considered that offensive here. (Actually, Australians seem to rarely get offended at all!) When I use the word whore, it is purely descriptive. I'm a stripper, she's a whore, that man over there is a carpenter.

Flick6
07-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Adding my two cents as an Aussie.... I have found that most of my freinds that have worked as prostitutes use the word whore to describe themselves... but you have to be careful using the word if your not one... you know what I mean? It can be offensive if the person using it isnt in the sex industry, I guess because they might be using it in a different more derogative manner.
Personally I think its a bit like calling someone a "nigger". It could be totally cool if you are an African American (living in America - anyone in australia who uses that term should die of embarasment), but you are setting yourself up for doom if you are some skinny little white boy/girl running around calling people nigger.

Crow2
07-18-2007, 06:24 PM
prostitute:
to offer indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money

courtesan:
a prostitute with a courtly , wealthy, or upper-class clientele

whore:
a woman who engages in sexual acts for money : PROSTITUTE; also : a promiscuous or immoral woman


Thats what Websters has to say about it ..

PaigeDWinter
07-18-2007, 06:33 PM
So how bout that there Bunny Ranch? Ain't it just the bee's knees?


*cough*

Lysondra
07-18-2007, 06:36 PM
So how bout that there Bunny Ranch? Ain't it just the bee's knees?


*cough*

I heard it's great! A lot of beautiful women work there!

PaigeDWinter
07-18-2007, 06:44 PM
I heard it's great! A lot of beautiful women work there!


Yeah I love to go look at their pictures. :D I can't wait to go there someday!

roseredhead
07-18-2007, 08:47 PM
I've worked at the Kit Kat Guest Ranch a few times and I really enjoyed it. My only big problem is that I'm from out of state. It's not a bad job, all in all, and if you dance you might enjoy it!

Big money, however, comes from regulars. Don't go out expecting to bank hardcore wherever you go (but don't be discouraged at all!) It's a very interesting job, and the nice thing is that despite the fact that the house takes half, you get plenty of things to make up for it.

Good luck to anyone going!

LanaV
07-30-2007, 02:53 PM
My husband and I have visited the Bunny Ranch and a fun place. Dennis Hof is fantastic as are the girls. I'm not a working girl and we only went for drinks and will come back for sure. Everyone there was very friendly and made you feel at home.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o293/LanaV_photos/DSC_0010copy.jpg

TigersMilk
07-30-2007, 03:04 PM
As pretty as you are, do you need to spam almost every post with a picture of you?

Christian*Doll*
07-30-2007, 03:15 PM
LOL .......you read my mind............LOL

Tart
07-30-2007, 04:05 PM
Okay i"m going to come out the closet a bit.

I worked at sheris and the MLBR.

I worked doing tours for over 2 years.

I'm not an ugly chick or a fucking lazy.

I also know how to rip people off lol without fucking,sucking etc. Yes I was what they coined a rip off hooker.

At any rate, the 100,000 claim would only happen if she got rather large tips back to back ( remember the state takes half, plus 78 dollars room and boared, 100 a week in medical ) so she'd have to had made 200,000+

IMPOSSIBLE. Again unless she recieved 180,000 in tips.

I did well there and my avg per 2 weeks ( you get paid in a check btw. ) was 20 grand roughly. My cut. That was booking bungalow parties which start at 3500 . Avg hourly ( sheris' doesn't go by time. but by acitivity. ) is about 1500-2000

Most girls DO NOT get that. You avg 500 for straight lay, and 800-1000 for a half and half.

Bunnyranch I banked big time there about the same as sheris' with little to no overhead. I worked there the longest.

I just didn't liek the drama that was going on while I was working there and it soured shit for me. It sucks I had great friends there and still do.

In a month you typically go home from a whore house( considering you have regulars, know how to hustle etc. ) with between 20 and 40 grand. AGAIN with the things I stated going on.

If you don't have either and you are just soley depending on lineups I promise your amount per week is about 5 grand sometimes up wards of 8 grand

Still not bad money and remember it gets slow there !!

Okay end of statement.

Tart
07-30-2007, 04:08 PM
Oh and I wanted to throw in, you may only have one guest a day or for 3 days. It's not like you get picked daily and are making 5 grand. Seriously.

On an avg again you might see 0-3 people a day.

As another girl stated it's really dependant on the whale and the regular.

MLBR has outdates and that is where most of your great money comes from.

Tart
07-30-2007, 04:10 PM
As pretty as you are, do you need to spam almost every post with a picture of you?


Because she is a fucking troll.

It's annoying as all hell.

hey look it's lanas ass again.

VegasPrincess
07-30-2007, 04:31 PM
Holy shit. Where do I apply for a job? 40K a month? That's 480 K a year.... clear... not that you would work every month! Did you ever have any scary/bad experiences there or was it pretty cool? What's the security like?

Tart
07-30-2007, 04:34 PM
Im running off to work. Obviously if it was worth it I'd still do it now.

I've not done it in 4 years possibly 5.

Security is amazing , after all the place it legal and has your back.

Was it all roses and shit..NO.

yes about 30-40 K a month. Slow times 15-20. give or take on either of those stats.

I would do 6 week stints..and not work again for 6 months.

VegasPrincess
07-31-2007, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the tip honey! I am off to check out their web site!!!

roseredhead
07-31-2007, 09:52 PM
When I worked at the KKGR, the women I knew who banked crazy were making anywhere from $100k-250k a year. Plus, the staff was very friendly and you didn't get the same kinds of drama you would other places.

I did have a scary experience, but that was because I was working nights and a whole bunch of guys came in and harassed us (there was no security man in the house that early in the morning and the bartend left us two gals alone to deal with 9 drunk guys.)

It got handled, though, and it just shook me up a little, but I was fine and no one got hurt.

I would warn that not everyone makes that kind of money from the get go, though. You have to take a lot of smaller parties before you start landing the big ones.

The name of the game is REGULARS!

If you want to learn more, check out the Brothel boards too. ;)

VegasPrincess
08-01-2007, 03:01 PM
Wow, thanks for the tip Rose! I would be willing to try the BR.

roseredhead
08-05-2007, 10:36 AM
You're very welcome!

If you want some reading material, try Brothel: The Mustang Ranch and Its Women by Alexa Albert. That's what got me started on this whole thing...well, that and a fascination for the industry since I was small. :D

JustJayda
08-05-2007, 09:47 PM
Hm. Perhaps it's because I live in a place now where it's legal, but nobody here finds whore an insult unless it's incorrect. A stripper would be mad you called her a whore but a whore would not. *shrug* I guess since the careers and job aspects of each type of sexual worker are more clearly divided, the term whore becomes more acceptable in general society.

Sorry Lysondra, not buying it. According to the definition(most of the sub definitions) of whore that you posted, strippers are whores too, i.e. not more clearly divided.

Besides, its about perception, and from the tone of this thread/reaction of the ladies, it ain't cool usage/acceptable.

(still love u though)

JustJayda
08-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Because she is a fucking troll.

It's annoying as all hell.

hey look it's lanas ass again.

She can't be a troll, their fur is uniform ( phony-tail... real hair...mismatch...error...does not compute) :O

Tart
08-05-2007, 11:55 PM
^ wahahaha

I wonder if we rub her belly we'll have good luck at bingo.

PaigeDWinter
08-06-2007, 01:06 AM
^ wahahaha

I wonder if we rub her belly we'll have good luck at bingo.



Oh ow. Soda out nose. Effin ow. AHAHAHAHHAAAAAA!

Lysondra
08-06-2007, 03:37 AM
Sorry Lysondra, not buying it. According to the definition(most of the sub definitions) of whore that you posted, strippers are whores too, i.e. not more clearly divided.

Besides, its about perception, and from the tone of this thread/reaction of the ladies, it ain't cool usage/acceptable.

(still love u though)

Fine, if I went overboard I did. I'm sorry. But I fully intended it to be in context. Just like I'm a bastard and my neighbour's dog is a bitch. That's how I meant it.

katie941
08-08-2007, 01:27 AM
hey tart what is an outdate? you said the br has them,is that like an out call escort?

Callyish
08-09-2007, 03:53 AM
So there is a small chance im going to the Bunny Ranch for my bday *grin*

Problem is.. the hottest girl there and the one I want is Jenny :rotfl:

twisterinAZ
08-09-2007, 07:07 AM
The house takes half - of everything. Including your tips. If the guy travels there by limo or cab - house gets thirty percent.

Plus you have to pay rent for your room, you pay for your own doctor visits and tests, license. Traveling expenses. There is a fee for leaving early. Plus there's a ton of other little fines you can rack up for bad behavior and so forth.
What bad behavior in a brothel?

Crow2
08-09-2007, 10:36 AM
What bad behavior in a brothel?

Getting drunk, drugging, cut throating, back biting, talking to patrons about other girls. showing nipple.. and so forth and so on.

TigersMilk
08-09-2007, 10:42 AM
Whats back biting? I have a hunch that its not literally what it means.

cameron_keys
08-09-2007, 10:52 AM
you cant show nipple in a brothel??????