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All Good Things
09-22-2005, 05:16 PM
Guys' expectations are understandably higher for such absurdly high amounts of money.

So the girl will have to hint at (if not outright promise) more to get the guy to spend $900 than she would for $600 than she would for $400 than she would for $60.

Rath, I appreciate that you are describing your own experience in the clubs, but extending this dynamic to the entire industry is just plain crazy. For starters, this implied cash-for-sex continuum is complete nonsense. It's predicated on the notion that every guy in the club is interested in extras. It also implies that rising prices are offered solely in exchange for increasing sexual activity. Both of these are simply untrue on their face for many clubs, dancers and customers. Even a cursory review of the surveys on this topic on the blue side shows this consistently.

When I spend $1,500 - $2,000 ("absurdly high amounts of money" by your calculus) on a series of CRs and bar tabs over an evening at PEC or Scores West in NYC or the Rhino in Vegas, or any other high-end club, my interest is in finding the smartest dancers in the club and enjoying their company and dances in that specific environment. Are extras on the menu? Well, sure, they are always out there with some dancers. But like many blueballers, I'm not a paying customer for that service. Just on strictly selfish terms, I don't find it particularly sexually stimulating to pay a dancer to give me a HJ, BJ or FS. I'm the kind of guy who expects a woman to want to fuck me before it becomes interesting. ;) And that leads to an entirely different OTC dynamic in certain very special cases (no, money does not change hands OTC, either.)

All this is just a personal preference, admittedly, but I think it's a view that's widespread enough to merit mention here. In short: Customers are in the clubs for very different reasons.

Jenny
09-22-2005, 05:55 PM
I have to agree with Rath here; it's a frustrating exercise sometimes, Jenny, because of your own preconceived notions. Despite your protestations to the contrary, you do continually slag on posters when they lay it out as Rath did. If it doesn't fit your paradigm of stripper/customer relations (or more broadly, male/female relations in a macroscopic view), you reject it out of hand, in your classically dissmissive, frequently entertaining and benign fashion.

Is this too much to acknowledge?
Um, I think I already answered to this - but are you asking me to acknowledge that the experience of someone who has had conversations with dancers within the dynamic of a paying customer is as valid (in this context - that is the context of someone sharing their knowledge about the industry) as those who are in the industry? I mean if you look at what I am actually dismissing it is the idea that beautiful women are having sex in the VIP because they would rather do that than hustle the room, and that this was an intelligent decision. So are you asking me to acknowledge that I have dismissed it? Done. I dismissed it. In fact, I will do you one better - I barely gave it a thought. It was nto a dismissal after long and agonized thought and consideration. I read it and went "Pfft. Right." Now - I must ask - are you really contending the opposite? Do you think that it is wildly bright to work in a strip club, have sex with the customers because you don't want to "rip them off" (which is evidently how we are characterizing the girls who don't fuck their customers) and they can't be bothered working the room? You actually want to take this point and give it serious consideration? Yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't think I'm gonna.

Moneywise
09-22-2005, 08:07 PM
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mr_punk
09-22-2005, 09:02 PM
Most girls I know who are A) intelligent and B) willing to have sex in direct exchange for money are not schlepping around strip clubs, giving $400 to club management. That in itself is kind of dumb, when you think about it.it might be dumb, but it's not unusual, but whether or not a stripper is having sex. it sure seems like you broads are being pimped. if you're giving almost half the money to mangagement under any circumstances ....and you biatches betta have the money...LOL.

evan_essence
09-23-2005, 07:23 AM
it might be dumb, but it's not unusual, but whether or not a stripper is having sex. it sure seems like you broads are being pimped. if you're giving almost half the money to mangagement under any circumstances ...What? No. We're paying for the marketing, branding, facilities, utilities, security, managerial coordination, support staff, customer base, quality control and professional environment that these fine clubs provide to us as a place to ply our trade as independent contractors. It's no different than Orange Julius (http://www.orangejulius.com/en-US/Now+Featuring/default.htm) signing a contract for space in the mall's food court. :great:

-Ev