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threlayer
05-13-2006, 09:13 AM
All this talk about testing is socially responsible, but....

If you get a STD, you have it.
If you get tested and you have it, you still have it.
Testing helps others, if you reveal that fact and protect the other person. But you still have it.
If you know you have it, you may be able to go thru some medical procedure or drug regimen to reduce it's harm to you for the incurable ones. A few are curable if you know you have it.
So testing helps you to a limited extent.

Solution - DON'T GET IT.

detroitdiva22
05-13-2006, 09:27 AM
Yes. I think porn stars can be extremely successful. It's all of what you put into it. Hard work and dedication is the key to be successful in any industry. You need an agent or representation, and you need to talk with someone in Cali. Cali is known for upbringing the hottest acts in porn today. If this is something that you want to do seriously, you should think about having a "niche" as well. Also, an agent will help you develop a look, and market you accordingly! Good look. But for starts, try posting an ad at www.sexyjobs.com (http://www.sexyjobs.com)

smartcookie
05-14-2006, 08:10 PM
All this talk about testing is socially responsible, but....

If you get a STD, you have it.
If you get tested and you have it, you still have it.
Testing helps others, if you reveal that fact and protect the other person. But you still have it.
If you know you have it, you may be able to go thru some medical procedure or drug regimen to reduce it's harm to you for the incurable ones. A few are curable if you know you have it.
So testing helps you to a limited extent.

Solution - DON'T GET IT.

This makes no sense to me.

Unless you're showing obvious signs of infection (which many people either don't manifest or don't recognize for what they are) how would you know how to treat "it" if you don't know what "it" is?

prrfektwurld
05-15-2006, 09:42 AM
I have to step in as a former adult actress.

First off, educate yourself on STIs (sexually transmitted infections, it's PC and I've gotten into the habit!) and never, ever, ever let someone talk you into doing a scene without current HIV and gc/chlam testing. (Current is one month.) Also, DO NOT have sex with someone without a condom! I see a lot of porn and I was guilty of it myself of doing oral without a barrier. I would never do this in my personal life and while it would limit me on work, I would never do it now.

Obviously, if someone has herpes or genital warts, they're mostly likely to spread it in the prodromal stages (right before) and during. So if someone has a lesion on their fancy bits, don't have sex. You always have the right to say no. Repeat this to yourself: I have the right to say no, no matter who says what or offers me what. Condoms are 80% effective against transmitting the type of HPV that causes cervical cell irregularities and in this day and age, an adult actress has no more risk of contracting high risk HPV that leads to cervical cancer than the next lady.

Consider this: those working in adult entertainment who follow this condom only standard (IE escorts, etc) have a much lower rate of HIV transmission than the rest of the population!

If anyone has any more questions about sexual health, please message me. I've work in reproductive health.

Onto the business of adult entertainment: approach it financially like dancing. Have a financial plan. Know what you want to do with the money. I look back at my credit card statements from when I was working in the industry and all I see are bar tabs and clothing stores, even though I swore I'd use the money to pay off loans, and one really awesome trip to New Orleans. (Oh, the money I spent at the strip clubs!)

Let me give you another mantra to repeat: I will never accept anything but cash on the spot up front. Don't let someone else give you the money, don't let them give you a check or money order. I learned this the hard way.

Consider signing up with a good agency, like LA Direct or World Models. Don't sign up with some rinky dink agency. Message me with the name and I can tell you good or bad. Additionally, do a google search on the names before you say yes to work. This would have saved me a lot of stress.

Join an adult message board like xxxporntalk.com to screen names as well. I'd avoid adultstaffing and stick with sexyjobs. They tend to be more legit. OMP also has an option to let you hook up with adult work.

Hm, I'm racking my brain here.

Create a list of dos and don'ts and stick to it. Never travel or go to a shoot without informing at least two people when, when, and how long, or, if possible, bringing someone. Follow your gut instinct. If it feels wrong, say no. That's it. Just say no. Your gut instinct is a valuable tool.

I hate saying this because it sounds like being a diva, but if you're unsure, balk a little bit. If the person or group you're working with tries to tell you you're passing up a great opportunity to be a star or tries to pressure you, drop out. That's a great way to pick out the bullshitters. Ask for references. If the person or group won't provide them, say no.

And finally: ask yourself how you will honestly feel if people you know see your videos. If you're planning a career later, ask yourself how the revelation that you were in porn may affect your career.

And finally again: as with dancing, if you go into it, never ever let anyone make you feel bad or dirty.

Wow, this was longer than I had intended, but I wanted to impart whatever "wisdom" I have.

threlayer
05-17-2006, 10:34 AM
I didn't say don't get tested, but testing is not a prevention method for yourself. But it is highly responsible if you test often and have multiple partners, given that you sometimes don't practice safe sex, which itself is highly irresponsible. So I guess testing sort of cancels out socially. Anyway....

Possibly I missed the point of your question, smartcookie.

Anastacia79
05-17-2006, 03:03 PM
jenna jamisons book has alot of her real life experiences...read and learn.

Crow
05-17-2006, 07:45 PM
If you want to be a porn star for the money, please reconsider because there are easier and less compromising ways.

Another often not discussed fact is that just about everyone in the porn industry has genital herpes and genital warts. And if you go into this industry, you will too. Sorry for being blunt but I just want you to go into this with open eyes. There is nothing worse than not being aware of certain issues and making decisions without all the facts.


Okay, I read this and just about fell out of my chair. YOU HAVE TO BE TESTED BEFORE YOU CAN WORK IN THE FILM INDUSTRY.

Yes you do have to be tested. It's just like working in Nevada at one of the houses, they test you a lot and often. I have no idea where you get this info but it's crap.

Also it's a good idea to send a packet of photos and information to World Models. They are one of the agencies that get you work, for a ten percent fee of course. No body does anything for free. The people there are very nice and will work with you to get you work.

Of course you have to pay for your own expenses. travel, rooms, etc. Yes, it is a good idea to have a steady job as who knows what will happen.
No one is Miss Cleo.

Hope this helps and good luck!

smartcookie
05-19-2006, 01:05 PM
Thanks prrfektwurld for such an awesome and detailed reply. I hope that anybody here considering doing porn reads it.

I have never done porn and probably never. I do know a few people involved in the industry. I have a few points I'd like to make:

There's no testing done for Herpes or HPV. The intentions of AIM are noble. But directors and producers don't check test results to make sure they are current. It's up to you, the performer, to bring your current test results to each and every shoot, and carefully examine the paperwork of every performer you will do a scene with to make sure their test results are complete and current. Think people don't show up with old or forged test results? Think again.

A lot of companies are shooting in Eastern Europe and Brazil now. There is no equivalent of AIM overseas. To say that their testing requirements are lax and irresponsible is a vast understatement. Research the companies you are shooting for. If they shoot overseas or use a lot of overseas "talent" (like Evil Angel) I'd be VERY wary of working with them.

Pace yourself and know what you're getting into. Start out with girl/girl and solo for the first year. Then graduate to boy/girl. Save the anal, quadruple penetration, and scat stuff for the tail end of your porn career. Don't let directors and agents bully you into doing things you don't want to do. I believe that the minimum age for porn performers should be 21. Teenagers simply don't know that they have a right to say no and are remarkably ignorant about sexual health practices.

World Modeling was once the best agency to work for, but now if you look at their website, you will see that most of the "talent" they represent are seriously fugly looking. Start with . The owner Derek Hay is a tough and uncompromising boss, but he will get you work. Just be clear about your boundaries. If you don't want to eat your own shit or that of others (ass to mouth) and don't want to felch the cum of ten guys out of your ass and drink it with a straw, then say so.

That's my 2 cents.

Djoser
05-19-2006, 04:18 PM
You know, I never blamed Janine Lindemuller for calling Rocco an asshole for tricking her with the condom thing--he either cut the head off or took it off part way through without telling her--but if he has herpes, that really gave her good cause to be pissed.

His excuse was lame, too--something about really wanting to be inspired when you performed with an actress.

I heard some European actress seriously punched him during a shoot too, lol...

JustJayda
05-19-2006, 10:44 PM
Thank you smart cookie, for that post^^^. I'm glad you stated it, because people just assume that herpes is included in those tests, and most of the time, it isn't. That includes the brothels. The testing for it is very expensive, compared to other STD tests. Also, it's one of those things that isn't accurate all the time. I have a friend that works w/Chrissy Chan (my friend used to dance in Philly), she says that SOME places test anually if at all for herpes. A whole lot can happen in a year!!! B careful folks.

And while I'm speaking on herpes for a sec, be careful who you share your joint with people, carry your own damn papers!!!!

Crow
05-20-2006, 09:43 AM
Expensive? To get your aim card ( adult industry medical ) the cost is one hundred and sixty dollars.

Brothels test WEEKLY and of course each girl is responsible for her own medical - that can run you one twenty to eighty something dollars each time.

Now, I have no clue what you call expensive but that to me is sort of high.
High and necessary if you want to work in these industries.

JustJayda
05-20-2006, 11:16 AM
Crow, what brothels test WEEKLY, for herpes??? Pardon me for playing devil's advocate, but I've been told but brothel gals, that they don't test for herpes weekly, beyond a visual inspection of the goods.

Crow
05-20-2006, 11:23 AM
Herpes is something that you are responsible for on your own. Brothels test weekly for the usual STD's. Syphilis, Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. Plus, HIV.

Of course I am speaking of the women that work there. Just to make sure we are on the same page.

A dick check is what your speaking of ( Inspection of the goods.)

JustJayda
05-20-2006, 11:35 AM
gotcha Crow;) We're on the same page;)

prrfektwurld
05-22-2006, 06:34 PM
Regarding herpes:

There are two types: HSV-1 and HSV-2. HSV-1 is generally found orally and HSV-2 is generally found genitally, but either can move to the nondominate area without proper barrier methods during oral-to-genital.

Only a blood test can determine this. 90% of people have HSV-1 and 25% of people have HSV-2.

prrfektwurld
05-22-2006, 06:38 PM
There's no testing done for Herpes or HPV. The intentions of AIM are noble. But directors and producers don't check test results to make sure they are current. It's up to you, the performer, to bring your current test results to each and every shoot, and carefully examine the paperwork of every performer you will do a scene with to make sure their test results are complete and current. Think people don't show up with old or forged test results? Think again.
People can show up with forged tests, which is why getting tests through AIM or another reputable organization, can be best.

The best test for HSV is blood based. For men, there is no HPV test, but for women, the best HPV test is a Pap smear.

Demand all the testing you would require up front and of course have that testing yourself. I've been asked to work by people who require that testing of me and then doing have it themselves! Talk about double standards.

gingerlee
05-26-2006, 11:20 PM
Even if a person has a copy of their test on paper I either do a verbal answer from AIM or I log onto the website that keeps everybody's results available. Better safe than sorry!

Sassy~n~Sexy
05-27-2006, 04:27 PM
My boyfriend directs for a MAJOR porn company and I can tell you this...

They do NOT test for Herpes or Genital Warts! Most preformers have them. They test you for HIV every 3 weeks...and the virus can be in your system for 6 months...and you can get 'negative' results even if you do have it!

All the other STD's...people still get them that perform. There is NO condoms. And even Vivid has a new no-condom policy for all new contract girls!

I wouldn't do it if I were you...they money isn't worth it! The average life span of a porn girl (gonzo) is 6 months...you will get shot to death by every company....and then tossed away.

Contract girls make shit all...I know because a few of my friend have or had contracts. PEANUTS!

Most girls do porn so they can charge more for 'extras'....lovely!

Dance at night get a day job...save your money! Do porn and that's with you for the rest of your life!Sounds great not..and maybe you think 'who cares' but I can tell I have friends who are still performing and they cry all the time...they wish they never did it! And I'm talking girls with contracts even!

You are nothing but a pussy, mouth and product to those people!

DON'T DO IT!

And to anyone on here who does perform...I am not judging you at all...but I'm sure it's not something you would tell your daughter or sister to do. It's not safe! I don't trsut those AIDS tests...and why the hell is it not 'sexy or hot' to use a damn condom...sorry but last I checked HIV is not stylish!

Djoser
05-27-2006, 05:52 PM
The impression I get from watching porn is that a very large percentage of the producers, especially the ones who do their own camerawork, are not nearly as respectful of the actresses as I would prefer to see.

To me, most porn is frightfully boring--though there was a time when due to a disgust for the singles scene here in Daytona I relied on it to take care of a strong libido, instead of subjecting myself to the ordeal of going to meat markets full of shallow, stupid people.

But it sure gets old after a while, and after watching enough of it you can observe how little of the time the actresses are truly turned on by the experience. This is the only really good porn out there, and it's rare, as far as I can tell. One reason I much prefer girl/girl stuff, as well--it seems to be more genuine, some of the time, since all the tiresome pretense of guys playing the stud is dispensed with automatically.

Now, if you watch so many of the free previews available on the web, the guys come across as either incredible assholes, or total geeks--even guys behind some fairly 'professional' sites.

There's one site which strives to attain a very slick and expensive, 'polished' look. I was watching a preview clip and actually heard the guy say, in an attempt to get a good 'ass shot', in the preliminary teasing session (usually way better than when they turn the goon loose on the woman) "pretend you're going to fart in my face".

I couldn't believe it--what a fucking geek!

But I digress yet again...

I would suspect that the world of porn is much like the world of stripping, only maybe a little more so--it takes a strong, confident personality to survive and prosper, and do so without regrets.

Someone like GingerLee obviously has the confidence and circumspection to be well aware of what she is doing, and control her own destiny--not to mention take care of her health.

Some of the other actresses, I would worry about, if I knew them.

gingerlee
05-28-2006, 03:14 PM
Yeah, I do have to say I don't regret what I do. My family knows what I do, and while they do not think that it is the greatest thing I can do with my life, they trust me enough to stay sober, safe, and not put my $$ up my nose.
I know if and when I have kids at some point I will have to tell them about it, but there is no way I would tell them I made a mistake and decided to do porn. I thought long and hard about it before jumping into it, and I understand the ramifications of doing so. Each girl has a different story, some can handle it, some can't.

Crissychan
05-28-2006, 10:32 PM
Thank you smart cookie, for that post^^^. I'm glad you stated it, because people just assume that herpes is included in those tests, and most of the time, it isn't. That includes the brothels. The testing for it is very expensive, compared to other STD tests. Also, it's one of those things that isn't accurate all the time. I have a friend that works w/Chrissy Chan (my friend used to dance in Philly), she says that SOME places test anually if at all for herpes. A whole lot can happen in a year!!! B careful folks.

And while I'm speaking on herpes for a sec, be careful who you share your joint with people, carry your own damn papers!!!!

Hi jayda, what does your friend work by? I know the county I work in test you MONTHLY. They also do the visual on you weekly. I find this to be sufficant, we do DC's ( dick checks ) ON EVERY CLIENT. If we see anything close to a sore even if it is an ingrown hair no activities can legally go on. Not to mention we use condoms for all activites including hand jobs. In the 8 months I have been working in a brothel I have spent well over 2500 on testing, so I can agree that the testing is very expensive but well worth it. I have never known a single girl to contract an STD from working in a brothel.

JustJayda
05-29-2006, 10:51 AM
^^ I pm'd u;)

Crissychan
05-29-2006, 02:37 PM
^^ I pm'd u;)

Got it sweetie... ;)

Lovespell
07-20-2006, 12:15 PM
I just wanted to say thanks everyone for your replies. They've all been super helpful.

prrfektwurld
07-24-2006, 03:13 AM
You would be hard pressed to find a major company that does not use condoms. I read in $pread magazine recently that some countries are considering special rating systems for risky porn, IE porn that does not show condom use.

gingerlee
07-25-2006, 12:21 PM
Actually Red Light District, New Sensations, Hustler Video, 3rd Degree, pretty much all the gonzo companies do not use condoms. I believe Vivid just made condoms optional in all their films as well. They use condoms in FL, but in LA I am yet to work with a company-print or video-that uses condoms on set.