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Vixen608
09-26-2005, 06:31 PM
:) I was just wondering, I am looking to start dancing at the end of December when I finish with my degree and I was just wondering if a dancer usually makes more money dancing at a club or for an agency? Also I just want to get people's opinions on which one they think is better?

Paris
09-26-2005, 07:31 PM
If you are asking what the difference between club work and private parties is that is easy.

Club advantages: regualr consistant work, freedom to schedule your own shifts, protection provided by bouncers and management, work space and stage and dj are provided etc.

Party dancer advantages: Paid for showing up, usually earn more per hour, you set your own boundries and rules, no compition from a club full of girls (no hustle).

Club disadvantages: No guarantee of pay, May have to deal with stripper and/or management drama, Increased likelihood of vice problems, increased likelihood of being stolen from by other dancers.

Party dancer disadvantages: Irregular work (pretty much just weekends during peak bachelor party season), Higher risk from patrons (molestation, rape etc.), Must have your own driver/bouncer, must have your own music (and lights if you don't want to dance in full kitchen lights etc.), always going to a different location for every job.

If you are talking about a Feature dancer agent vs. doing it yourself, I have no expierence there. I do both club dancing and private parties, and enjoy the variety.

BigGreenMnM
09-26-2005, 08:05 PM
bottom line,regardless of what anyone can say,its safer in the clubs.
There is always control,you cant say that about private shows and outcall parties.

IMO the money is better over the long run as paris said,add to that the safe factor,thats all i gotta know.

madmaxine
09-26-2005, 08:35 PM
Do both but be picky.....I have done both and have horrifying tales from the private shows, and the clubs as well. And your private agent cannot help you if you get in trouble.

VenusGoddess
09-26-2005, 08:35 PM
In Chicago...had a few friends who worked with Private Party Places...they tend to almost stop in the winter. The biggest time for the Private Parties are in the Spring and in the Fall...when the most weddings happen. You may want to consider just going to the clubs...but, they really slow down after the holidays (Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years and all the holidays in between). A lot of the dancers that I know take that time to go on vacation or take a break. It's just really bad.

But, try it out...

GoldCoastGirl
09-26-2005, 10:01 PM
I say do both however make sure your agency or agencies know your schedule. This is what I do. The big disadvantage to agency work is that you really do need a car if you want to make serious money. Also, you must specify with the agency what type of shows you are willing to do.

If you are willing to do more XXX shows like dildo, pearls, fruit n vegie type of shows you will gain more bookings hence be able to just be a showgirl (not have to do waitress bookings for more income unless you want to be available for them). This is why as a straight strip showgirl I also do waitressing gigs so I can eligible for more bookings.

I also pretty much do the agency work AROUND my club work. I will travel away for work once a month and do the agency work around this other work. It is up to you which one you feel is more lucrative for you.

You can be "just" an agency girl (if you do be reliable as that is what will get you more work) or "just" a strip club girl (choose the right club if you decide to just work within a club)... or you can do agency work around your strip club work (do bookings before you go into the club for instance).

I like the private parties as it allows me to do much more than I would be allowed to do in a club... plus I find that they allow me to be the entertainer and performer. The agency does all the 'hard work' for me (advertising, making bookings, collecting payment and so forth). Whereas in the strip clubs it allows me to be a sales girl more than a performer and entertainer... hence each environment I enjoy.

cinammonkisses
09-27-2005, 05:41 AM
Party dancer disadvantages: Irregular work (pretty much just weekends during peak bachelor party season), Higher risk from patrons (molestation, rape etc.), Must have your own driver/bouncer, must have your own music (and lights if you don't want to dance in full kitchen lights etc.), always going to a different location for every job.

I feel like both have their disadvantages. There are some nights that I work (I work for an agency) where I sit there (for hours) twiddling my thumbs waiting for a show to come through. But..when I get a show, who knows how well the custy may tip?!

Actually, where I'm located it's dead until the bar/club lets out. And usually that is everyday out of the week. But Saturdays are MONEYMAKING time, but that goes to say regardless of if you are in a club or an agency. You also get the out of town on business guys who aren't into the whole stripclub scene. They would rather have some more individual attention.

As far as higher risk from patrons, I think all dancers should set their limitations as soon as the show starts. No one wants any hidden surprises. I always have my driver with me. Sometimes they know he's there, sometimes they don't. But once I collect that money, I politely let them know that I have someone outside waiting. I also have my driver call me periodically throughout the show.

As far as music..when I started they said it would be in my best interest to have my own CD's and CD player. I haven't brought one in yet. What I do is ask the custy to cut on the radio.

Yea right if you think I'm going to spend money on some light show ;D Most guys (maybe it's cause I'm in my area) but they don't want a "stripper". They dont' even want you to wear dancer clothing/shoes. To bad I already have a bunch of the crap (oh well I'm saving it for amatuer night). They want a discreet girl. Actually when I got into work, I wear slacks and a nice button up shirt. I dress professionally (not all of the girls do) because I never know where I will be called out to do a show.

sarahdancesinchica
09-27-2005, 02:25 PM
I do private parties exclusively, as others mentioned the work is irregular during the winter (in a warn weather climate this might be different), and work is almost always Friday and Saturday nights only and maybe one other job throughout the week if you're really lucky. The pay is excellent, you get paid just for showing up as others mentioned and a lot of times good tips, some customers even let you spend extra time there to go around asking for lap dances for tips ala a club. It's a good idea to bring security if you do private parties, if you're with a reputable agency they SHOULD provide it.

Usually your security person will do a brief introduction of what the rules are (this can vary from customer to customer as you might have one client where you allow light touching and another where its strictly off limits) before you enter the room, I usually bring my own lights, and then boom box, though I know some dancers don't do that.

If you're starting out on your own look in the yellow pages for bodyguards or personal security, then look into taking out small ads in nightlife papers and you can start to build a clientel from there. You're your own boss which makes private parties a lot easier.

Word of mouth makes a big difference, I give out little buisness cards with my contact information after any show or I leave them on a table. Any patrons at the party who might want an exotic dancer for another party down the line now have your information, in the past year and a half the number of clients who found me from business cards or referrals has overtaken those who found me in the night life papers. Another thing you can do which I think has helped is themes, the downside is you need to invest in a number of sometimes elaborate costumes (cowgirl, cheerleader, nurse, policewoman) but it really helps as about half of my jobs involve a theme.

I usually do bachelor parties, birthday parties, promotions, and divorce parties. Once you build up a consistant clientel making a decent income off of this isn't that hard. I hope this was of some help to you.

madmaxine
09-27-2005, 02:45 PM
The agency will make you pay for your own security/ driver, but do it. I had a lot of scary shows because I was working in a ghetto part of California. Some of the stories are funny but all it takes is one turn of bad luck. One dancer I knew from Southern CA got raped during a private show because her bouncer was waiting outside the room.
The customer needs to know the agency has his info, and that there is someone waiting outside (of course, tell him that after you collect your money.) And remind him if he gets out of hand, you are walking out the door.

Paris
09-27-2005, 04:01 PM
As far as music..when I started they said it would be in my best interest to have my own CD's and CD player. I haven't brought one in yet. What I do is ask the custy to cut on the radio.

Yea right if you think I'm going to spend money on some light show ;D Most guys (maybe it's cause I'm in my area) but they don't want a "stripper". They dont' even want you to wear dancer clothing/shoes. To bad I already have a bunch of the crap (oh well I'm saving it for amatuer night). They want a discreet girl. Actually when I got into work, I wear slacks and a nice button up shirt. I dress professionally (not all of the girls do) because I never know where I will be called out to do a show.

I hadn't though about one on one shows. I do exclusively larger shows for an agency. If there aren't at least 5 people in attendance, I won't do them. Most of the shows I'm booked for are for 20+ guys and there are at least 2 dancers, sometimes more. I put on full feature shows with costumes and props, so that way I can get away with doing less contact and extras and still make good money. I was even thinking of getting a portable stage w/ pole to take with me to some of the bigger shows I do in Frat houses or Casinos.

I don't think I would be comfortable dancing in full house lighting in any case, so I have some black lights and some spinning disco type lights that I bring with me to do my shows. For a one on one show, candle light would work just fine, and cost a lot less!

cinammonkisses
09-27-2005, 04:14 PM
I hadn't though about one on one shows. I do exclusively larger shows for an agency. If there aren't at least 5 people in attendance, I won't do them. Most of the shows I'm booked for are for 20+ guys and there are at least 2 dancers, sometimes more. I put on full feature shows with costumes and props, so that way I can get away with doing less contact and extras and still make good money. I was even thinking of getting a portable stage w/ pole to take with me to some of the bigger shows I do in Frat houses or Casinos.

Wow, that sounds super cool! I wish there was an agency like that here..but it probably wouldn't get that much business. I would love to work for an agency like yours. Most of our shows are 1 on 1, and alot of discretion is kept. I actually wear regular clothes to my shows, to look like a reg. old girl.

I've been thinking about getting a portable dancer pole myself. That will at least give me a little edge over the other girls..(ok besides the fact that i'm wayyy cuter than the rest of them helps some too) ;)

sarahdancesinchica
09-28-2005, 11:46 AM
The problem with one on one shows or smaller groups is that since there is less people to gawk they generally expect more from you for the money, I'd really try to avoid them when possible. If it's a small group it takes a lot less time to go around give a lap dance to everyone after your main dance and it's hard to have customers happy with your performance in such cases. Small parties are a problem since customers definitely have a tendency to be a lot more grabby. One on one shows in particular are a problem because if one guy hires you for a half hour he doesn't just want to be teased usually, and it just turns into a difficult situation once you've done a few dances and lap dances and the customer is looking for "extras".

As mentioned before, things like lighting, costumes, music, and other props keep patrons busy and more satisfied with your performance. Try to give as good of a show as possible and don't fall into the trap of extras. Small parties and one on ones should be avoided when possible

Vixen608
09-30-2005, 12:33 PM
Thanks for all the information girls!!! I don't know what I would do without your advice!

Vixen608
01-11-2006, 09:53 AM
These are like free pages you can post info on and u don't have to pay? Kind of like Myspace or something like that? Thanks for the info!!;)