View Full Version : a good way to bank off of extras girls.
Mia M
09-30-2005, 09:36 PM
Seems like all parties involved are happy. The extra girl gets paid, Miss KL gets paid and the customer gets what he wants . Most importantly, neither entertainer is doing anything they're uncomfortable with. Some of us might find it morally questionable but personally don't think it's a bad idea at all.
However, calling someone you make cash off of (customer, extras girls, whatever) derogatory names is just biting the hand that feeds you. Now that you've found a way to bank off of someone's indiscretions, it might be a good idea to give them just a little more respect.
GnBeret
10-01-2005, 03:18 PM
... i used to take tips from the extras girl and the customer for a hookup, but i didn't sit there and dance while they took care of their personals.
If you're going to do it at all, this is far and away the better method - from several different perspectives, not the least of which is LE.
Although it's still a fairly commonplace arrangement in Houston, for the most part the dancers have been supplanted by the waitresses - who are in a much better position to play this game and make money on both sides of the deal in the process... the better ones are jokingly referred to as "Air Traffic Controllers," 'cause they've taken the game to another level and co-opted the non-extras girls too!
colleen
10-02-2005, 11:02 PM
I am really confused by the comments that she is going to "loose" the custy to the extras girl. If she does not porvide what he is looking for, he is NEVER going to get another dance from her again--ever. So she is gonna loose him anyway. At least this way she sells a couple more dances as part of a threesome that night, and she may well see the same guy again for another two-girl show with that dancer or a different one later.
Even if the guy does come back into the club and heads styraight for Annie Extra next time, that means one grabby custy and one extra girl will be occupied for a while, leaving one less girl on the floor to get in the way. And Mr. Grabby Guy will not be pestering her or the other clean girls.
Besides the LE concern, I don't really see a problem with this. I wish I could pull it off where I work!
chicAshley
10-06-2005, 09:28 AM
Hey, what ever you do to make a buck is your decision.
Do you ask the *extra* girl about what is expected or do you run up and say "Hey I got you a VIP come with"
I started a new club and a girl asked me to hop into a room with her becuase a custie was requesting me in VIP. I got in there and she asked me where my condom was and how do I feel about giving head! This all happened after I was paid out from the guy about 15 minutes into the half hour! So I tried to leave then she soothed me telling me "Don't worry about it. Let's just tease him for a bit and see where it goes." So we had 5 minutes left and she decides to leave the room to go to the bathroom. So I was in there with a fat and extremely drunk guy trying to grab my tits while throwing his penis down my throat! And what was even worse : She thought it would be cool to leave, I would be practically raped and she would be able to get the custie again because she provided the time! Complete BS!!!!!
Since I did not know the club and I tried to call for the bouncers I couldn't find them and/or turned a deaf ear! I almost got raped! Left the club after that episode!
So I know you will probably say "I know these girls whatever" but inviting behavior like that just says TROUBLE and leaves the girl you think is an extra in a bad position. What if she doesn't want to hj,bj or get her tits sucked?
I am not an extra girl but when the mentioned situation happened it was horrible and I was on the end of your scheming for a freaking buck!
Like I said before, I know you want to hustle but hey sometimes the extra money isn't worth risking putting someone in danger!
But like some strippers you don't care as long as you are getting paid.
TROU8LE~
10-06-2005, 09:56 AM
girl.. youre fine. Keep up with your hustling. I like how you use the dirty b*tches. lolol. I can not stand chics who do extras.. hey mine as well use them to your advantage! Its not like your the one doing the dirty work! I see nothing wrong with what your doing. Its not like your in the rooms giving the guys what they REALLY want. lol. Girl, dont worry about it.. just do what works 4 you. Its not like your prostituting.. your playing the game! : )
cinammonkisses
10-06-2005, 10:24 AM
So we had 5 minutes left and she decides to leave the room to go to the bathroom. So I was in there with a fat and extremely drunk guy trying to grab my tits while throwing his penis down my throat!
What...wha, hold up WTF. So you were like letting her throw his penis down your throat? How could you even let him get that close?! >:(
Excuse me if I'm incorrect, but the way it is worded makes it seem like you performed an extra. :-\
Candice
10-06-2005, 10:35 AM
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I have been dating a dancer for quite awhile now. She does not do the extras. At her current club pretty much anything goes, especially in VIP. She has worked out an arrangement with a couple of the other girls. If someone wants more than a standard dance she will introduce him to one of the girls who will take care of what he wants. She will explain that he has to pay extra for extras. She basically gets a referral fee from the other girl. She started doing this at a previous club. She had a regular customer that offered to pay her $100 to point out the girls that did extra things. He would come in almost every week. Many times the $100 was more than he paid the girl who did the actual dances.
Amethyst
10-06-2005, 03:29 PM
Yea! It's o.k. to lie, steal, and cheat to make your money.........All part of the game! Just don't be a Prostitute,:O that's the real sin. ::)
LOL, exactly! At least be a woman and be upfront about your shit to the "extras" dancer. Example, two "friendly" dancers (not necessarily "extras" girls, but friendlier than most) will invite me (who is not so friendly) to go into VIP with them and they KNOW they'll be doing the dirty work. They also know that when I have a customer who is looking for more action than he's going to get off of me, I'm pulling one of them to come over and share the (now increasing) wealth.
DylanAngel
10-06-2005, 03:34 PM
Hey, whatever you wanna do with your time is fine with me. I just don't see how you can feel comfortable with it going on in front of you since you don't do those things yourself.
I feel if I did something like this, I would be condoning it.
smartcookie
10-06-2005, 05:17 PM
Why are most down on Kristina? She has a comfort level, i.e. what she is and isn't willing to do for money. She has identified a way to capitalize on those that offer what she does not. Is there a legal risk implied by her actions? Sure, there is. But a risk premium is what enables this business to flourish where it does not elsewhere in the world. She sounds like a good businesswoman to me.
As for the earlier 'penis down the throat' comment, some of you need to learn to recognize trolls and not take such statements at face value.
Katrine
10-06-2005, 06:55 PM
Jeebus, and all of this is about girls whose extras consist of letting the customer touch them a little bit. It would be a non-issue alltogether here until it involved actual HJ/BJ/FS, or extreme groping and grindin.
When custs ask me to find them the extras girl, I point out the ugliest one in sight. If he wants it that bad, he can go to her. Usually, they say "ugh" and will stick with me, AND spend more than the $100 she charges for the BJ. But that's just my business style, no judgements.
chicAshley
10-07-2005, 07:52 AM
Sorry if I didn't elaborate on the "penis down the throat" comment....I meant to state that he was TRYING to force me into a bj and I was warding him off like crazy trying to get the bouncers who didn't care what was going on.... As stated before I almost got raped because I wasn't doing ANYTHING! A totally scary and traumatic experience that almost made me quit stripping.
barrysweet69
10-07-2005, 01:02 PM
thats a damn good idea. thanks!
tootsie
10-08-2005, 12:28 PM
jesus! she came on here with a suggestion, (which i think is good) and most rip her to shreds?!? when i was first reading it i was thinking you were going to say: "o, you want an extra girl? well she's busy blowin someone else right now, but i'll be sure that she knows that you are waiting in line" that would've been funny! girls bitch about extra girls on here, and sometimes how they don't make money because of them, well why not reep the benefits from them and still maintain your innocence? GOOD TIP!
colleen
10-09-2005, 09:35 AM
When custs ask me to find them the extras girl, I point out the ugliest one in sight. If he wants it that bad, he can go to her. Usually, they say "ugh" and will stick with me, AND spend more than the $100 she charges for the BJ. But that's just my business style, no judgements.
Another excellent idea. THe extras girls in my club are butt-ugly, run-down looking, with track marks and that facial expression that means they have been in the business way too long. IF that is what they want, they can have it.
And yeah, if you can't beat 'em, bank offf 'em! Then Mr. Gropy Hands can stay out of my hair and Miss Slutty Pants can stop hustling my good, decent, custies.
aussiepunkshocker
10-09-2005, 06:48 PM
Jeebus, and all of this is about girls whose extras consist of letting the customer touch them a little bit. It would be a non-issue alltogether here until it involved actual HJ/BJ/FS, or extreme groping and grindin.
When custs ask me to find them the extras girl, I point out the ugliest one in sight. If he wants it that bad, he can go to her. Usually, they say "ugh" and will stick with me, AND spend more than the $100 she charges for the BJ. But that's just my business style, no judgements.
Your lucky that works!
A few years ago I got asked to work at this nasty little club in Brisbane where the girls who worked there were junkies and doing whatever it took to make money. In an attempt to clean up the owner invited 3 of us up hoping that the customers would choose beautiful clean strictly stripper girls (that wasn't meant to sound like I'm up myself...) who could dance over the messed up junky ones who spent most of the night on the nod, shooting up or doing whatever out the back. It failed miserably.
Some customers bought shows off of us but not enough to make it worth our while to keep working there - I did 3 nights. Overall customers would talk to us, be full of praise and admiration for us and totally write the other girls off until it came down to actually spending. Basically we were lucky to get a few stage tips out of some of the guys sometimes, but since the other girls would drop their prices dramatically for blowjobs and / or sex we found no matter how fucked up the girls looked most customers would opt for the other option, and some of those girls were REALLY fucked up, I'm talking bandages and no showers for a few days etc!
It was really sad actually, I liked some of the other girls as people despite everything. Anyway the club got busted and shut down for prostitution a few months later, it was a loose loose situation.
Optimist
10-09-2005, 11:07 PM
I think Miss Kristina Lee has a brilliant idea as does Katrine. I worked with an extras girl who would include me, miss goody two shoes to keep her money flowing longer. Her customer liked multiple girls out on the show floor so she let him grope and I two stepped off by their side and collectted tips anyway. I was new so I found it weird but he was generous enough that I suppressed feeling like a pervy voyeur. It takes all kinds of guys to fill a strip club!
I'd just advise never stating any exact things your co-worker will do and moving on from a customer who wants to state specific illegal requests. Take care.
lalalatina
11-23-2005, 10:33 PM
The extras girls get pimped out in my club all the time. I've done it many times.
Helle
11-24-2005, 03:27 AM
Hey, Kristina, I'm with ya.... Everyone ends up happy in the end, so who cares?
I'd probably just tell the girl "Go sell some dances with my dude there and tip me out for it" though, because I'm always paranoid of getting in trouble for anything.
Vanessa777
11-24-2005, 05:33 AM
The legal term for this is assignation and you'll find it in your local prostitution statute.
girlnew156
11-24-2005, 06:06 AM
http://www.answers.com/topic/assignation
An appointment for a meeting between lovers; a tryst.
kitana
11-24-2005, 07:04 AM
She basically gets a referral fee from the other girl. She started doing this at a previous club. She had a regular customer that offered to pay her $100 to point out the girls that did extra things. He would come in almost every week. Many times the $100 was more than he paid the girl who did the actual dances.
And that would BASICALLY make her a PIMP.
Foxey
11-27-2005, 03:08 PM
I think the original post is a good idea. It wouldn't work at my club because my club is pretty much an all out extras club. Out of 100 girls there are probably 10 who don't do extras (including myself) we still make our money because not all customers have $150 to throw out there for a BJ but they do have $20 or $30 for a lap dance. And not all customers are willing to "cross that line" It wouldn't work at my club because the customers are way too cheap to throw out $270 for 15 mins with 2 girls, one of who would be just watching. It ain't gonna happen around here! Besides our VIP booths are way too small for that! When I worked at a club where the numbers were reversed, about 5 out of 60 girls did extras, I'd ask for a bird dog from the customer who wanted the extras and then point out one of girls who would provide him with full service. I'd usually get a $10 tip. Call me a pimp, who the fuck cares? I really like the idea of pointing to the nastiest girl sight and telling them they have to see her for that, I think I'm gonna try that because there are some fugly girls at my club and that just might work for getting me the dance!
Jo Weldon
11-28-2005, 01:12 PM
I've been reading through this thread and I see some major misconceptions about US prostitution laws. No need to have so much philosophy and analysis and wishful thinking when actual facts are available.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/c82/a56.html
Legally, prostitution is NOT defined as "sexual intercourse for money." The definition is much more subtle and probably COULD be used to refer to things that we think are 100% legal, if the authorities decided to try it.
This is just ONE definition:
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/p190.htm
Locating other people to perform sexual acts for money is known as "procuring" and could be a felony in a case where actually committing the sexual act is only a misdemeanor.
http://lawcrawler.findlaw.com/scripts/lc.pl?CID=ILC-LawcrawlerHomepage&sites=findlaw.com&entry=prostitution+procuring&submit=Search%21
People sometimes think that "procuring" only applies in trafficking or child prostitution, but that's a misconception
This is the tip of the iceberg on this, consider doing some hard research, not some "asking around," before you decide if what you're doing is legal.
Whether or not what the original poster is doing is OK is not why I was motivated to post--I'm just giving what I hope will be some useful links.
girlnew156
12-03-2005, 08:22 PM
Everybody in the club knows what everybody does. And there are customers who always come in withe the question "Well, ya know.......". Yeah, right.
Just point in the general direction, or just nod in that direction, they get the hint.
Peronsally never asked for a tip, but if they feel like they give me a few extra dollars, I will take it. Thank you, sir, and come back real soon.
Lyssa Lynn
12-04-2005, 11:20 AM
Well unfortunately at my club "extras" girls are in fact giving hj/bj which is very frustrating to me. If they are that comfortable doing those things why don't they go work as an escort! Seems like every week I've lost a regular to one of them. No judgments on a personal level but stop stealing my income. I have actually been told by one of my regs that while I wasn't there he got a "dance" from one of these girls. She grabbed his crotch right off the bat, preceded to grind away then tried to kiss him tounge and all. Thankfully for me he's germaphobic and was disgusted! All of this was no extra cost just our usual $10 fee. Wow! :O
Foxey
12-04-2005, 01:36 PM
It's so annoying when you are telling a customer about the VIP and he goes "Does that include eeeeverything?" with a stupid little eyebrow wiggle and a sleezy grin, fuck do they really think that's cute??
bambiblue
12-04-2005, 06:56 PM
So instead of telling the guy that extras are not allowed you go find yourself someone willng to do what you won't? hmmmmm...... in my opinion this is very BAD advice. You are condoning behavior that should not be acceptable. Girls need to start standng up for themselves and to other girls doing above and beyond what their job calls for. Besides that if you were unlucky enough to get an undercover cop in the VIP with you and "whore a,b, or c, you and the whore would both be in jail together. Second, if a guy is looking for "extras" he will find them on his own. I don't understand how this could profit you any because once he's found the girl that will do what he wants you will be cut out, and you will have reinforced behavior that makes it harder for the decent girls to make a living. The last thing you want to do is hand over potential money to another dancer.
Dragonsgirl
12-04-2005, 07:46 PM
Well this is just crazy you girls, I am fairly new here but reading all of this just made me have to say something. If by definition even sexually arousing someone for money is prostitution then all strippers are doing it! Half of you are himmin and hawwin about how bad Miss Lee is, give me a break we all do something that someone else would think was not ethical or moral but you don't have to be so rude. ;) Miss Lee, you are a cutie and clearly a smart woman so be careful not to get yourself in trouble by association, I mean there aren't a ton of stripper sites like this and that IS your picture right? Love to all...
Happy first posting to me!!!
Miss. Kristina Lee
12-04-2005, 08:27 PM
yes that is my picture :)
Dragonsgirl
12-04-2005, 08:34 PM
... and might I say that you are beautiful and well, smokin'! I like your take no crap attitude, just wish others could stop the high and mighty act and be more accepting of one another. We are all in this boat together and not a one of us is any better than anyone else, believe it. If you think someone is wrong in what they do, there is someone else who thinks you are as well, we are all different and none of us should be judging. 8)
renee39
01-30-2013, 10:27 AM
WHAT? That did not sound like bragging at all! haha!
so are you bragging or what?
jesus
luvbuniz
02-04-2013, 04:16 PM
:-\ This is bad advice. What usually happens is the dirty customer ends up liking the extras girl and you would be either be put in a compromising position or be booted out. Better advice is to cultivate the clean customer, improve your conversation skills I've done 10 to 4 hours with customers that just want to party and talk.
simone87
02-04-2013, 04:24 PM
i dont get why he would pay double to get two girls to go into champagne when he only wants dances from one, an you do nothing?? does he make a deal with you that if you get the girl you are included? because otherwise i think that would be a very bad idea..but hey, i guess you're setting the other girl up with a lot of money and possibly a regular! and letting guys now they can get what they want elsewhere! i just don't see how that would work in your favor in the long run. the customers would probably just say, o thanks! ignore you and go with the other girl. you are much better off building yourself up and selling YOURSELF. and if you don't like "dirty girls" why are you encouraging them, making them extra money, and participating? i wouldn't go so far as to call you a pimp or anything, just seems like a bad idea.