View Full Version : Better Money Than Stripping Or Escorting
threlayer
11-12-2005, 09:59 PM
I can think of two bad approaches to a career - one is choosing something and being inflexible about that career and/or where to do it. The second is choosing a career which is rapidly going downhill and you dont knbow about that yet.
Do some soulsearching and some exploration to find out what you may be good at and/or like. Be aware of these two problems above. Then get the best training you can afford. Above all watch yourself and become flexible enough to enable yourself to move into another branch or field or another location if/when things start turning sour. Finally company loyalty is way over the hill; be loyal to yourself. Watch everything else for signs of death.
onlythebest
11-13-2005, 02:45 AM
seriously? How/where would one apply for that?
You gotta know the right people to hook you up.
achick
12-15-2005, 06:52 PM
I used to do technical support and I talked to people who could not find the Start button on your desktop screen everyday. I was earning $45K with bonus checks when I left. Where did I go? Culinary school. I wanted to be a personal chef. Sold my house, moved to CA and dived into my studies. I was the first student from my school to go to Paris, France for an internship. I moved to FL and was banking as a private chef for a very wealthy businessman. But I was working 50-60 hours for a 5 or 6 day week! After almost a year of not sleeping, I quit, and now after looking at positions at restaurants that pay $8-11/hr, I am going to try stripping again. I don't have any suggestions or answers. I know that I want to travel, I want to spend time with my friends that I haven't seen in over 2 years and I want to pay off my $70K student loan!!
Yekhefah
12-15-2005, 07:10 PM
I heard that pharmacists make upwards of $70K straight out of college. You do have to study hard and work weird hours when you get there, but it seems to be a steady market with good pay.
I have spoken to several pharmacists who said it is a good field with lots of work and overtime available. One I spoke to works overtime every week, has a base pay of $70,000 a year, and with OT hovers around the $120,000 mark annually plus is an active investor in the stock market. But that is a field requiring time in school.
One thing most strippers are lacking is structure and ambition. It's in my blood to work full time dancing (my ex was such a pain in the ass I would go to work every night just to be rid of him).
Now I can work 5-6 night s a week on the road no problem because I am used to being at work. I get tired and frustrated, but an 8-5 job with a rush hour commute to and from work just to get a check amounting to half my dancer earnings for the same amount of work every payday is less motivating than going to the club every night, right? :(
A stripper who is not in school and has no full time job should be working 5 nights a week or 20 days a month minimum. Just like she would at a full time office job. Then if she averaged $300 a night after payouts and worked 48 weeks a year (4 weeks off for vacation) she would gross around $72,000 per year. Some girls may hit $80,000.
She should also be saving 25% or so of her earnings and not be looking for a "traditional job" upon quitting because she won't find one to match her dancing earnings.
The books "Rich Dad, Poor Dad and The Millionaire Mind sum it up nicely. Jobs just offer survival money. No one will get wealthy working in a job. A job is being part of the rat race.
Plus what they teach is that everyone needs to start some type of business that offers passive income or income that comes in that you don't have to go to work each day to earn.
Insurance agents earn passive income. Club owners profits from house fees could be considered passive as well.
So dancers should really be more willing to work 5-6 days a week as a dancer, save and invest their money, and put that money into several businesses that provide income that doesn't have to be worked for day in and day out.
Working a traditional job is worse than dancing. And dancing is hard sometimes becasue every night we have to start from scratch making money.There is no passive money in dancing.
We all need to read books and do research to find BUSINESSES we can OWN that will match our dancer earnings before we quit.
Some dancers don't have the personality and discipline to run their own business and will feel insecure without a guaranteed paycheck each week. But those dancers will never become truly well off in the end and may end up worse off after they quit dancing than they were while dancing. :-\
Lizette
12-15-2005, 07:54 PM
I heard that pharmacists make upwards of $70K straight out of college. You do have to study hard and work weird hours when you get there, but it seems to be a steady market with good pay.
Pharmacy is a difficult major. The base pay is high for a reason.
Yekhefah
12-15-2005, 07:57 PM
I am about to start doing EXACTLY that. I'm burnt out and exhausted - I spent the past eight years getting a B.A., then a Master's, and then working 80 hours a week for $100 a day. I'm tired. I don't want to do this anymore. I want to have time to exercise and do the things I live for - art, filmmaking, writing. So I'm about to start dancing full-time around the first of March. I can't wait.
I intend to work five nights a week no matter what. I want to be completely debt-free and have some savings. I think I'd like to invest in real estate eventually. Long-term I'll probably get a PhD and/or another Master's, and teach college when I'm done dancing. I've always wanted to be a professor!
TorontoGirl
12-15-2005, 08:29 PM
This is something to think about since stripping is like a career in sports, modelling, etc. It's time limited to how long you can sell your body. Most athletes are finished by the time they're 40 (if they're lucky). There are a few 40 year olds in hockey, baseball. None in football.
In other words...save your money, make good investments, and plan for the next phase. Can't do this forever.
zoe poulain
12-15-2005, 11:57 PM
I'm curious why you are asking for your friend and she is not. Why doesn't she log on and ask her own questions?
As for making more money doing something else, forget it. There's plenty of jobs out there, but none of them pay. I worked for years when I was younger as a stripper; put my way through college only to end up with school loan debt, and jobs that pay shit wages. I have excellent computer skills in video editing and special effects. I know MAC and PC platforms, at least 20 programs, and I know how to fix hard drives when they crash. And yet, here in New York, I'm lucky if I can get $40 an hour.
And forget about office politics. You think arguing with a custy about paying for a $20 dance is rough? Try spending an entire day fighting with a office manager c*nt because you took her pen. (WTF I told her, it's 9:15 pm, I've been here since 7am, and I'm trying to make a FEDEX deadline. I didn't steal your pen. I forgot to put it back because I was so freaking tired.)
My point is, as has been said already, it's very difficult to go from this world to that world. Anyone who is thinking about this must see the movies Office Space and Way Downtown. It is exactly like this.
If your "friend" is burnt out, tell her to take a break, a month or so. Go back to work, save her money, spend her free time getting an education at the museum, reading the Guardian, surfing answers.com. (There's nothing worse than being a 40 year old stupid ex-stripper).
Perhaps your friend should take a month off, go to a temp agency and get receptionist work (you don't need top notch computer skills for this). No doubt, she'll be back at the club in no time.
Lastly, and this goes out to anyone who is feeling burnt out, learn to meditate. It's truly wonderful. You get a custy whom you can't stand to be near, and you do what I do, meditate; go to your safe place in your head and tune him out. And then when you get home, lie on your bed, count your cash and be grateful that you're not one of those 9 to 5 slaves who works twice as long and twice as hard as you do, and makes half the money you go.
Zoe ;)
P.S. Hope I don't sound too bitter. I'm just trying to keep anyone from making the same mistakes I did.
VetteKilla
12-16-2005, 03:41 AM
Plan A
She should look into getting into Advertising sales w/ a radio station. There is so much money to be made. Also being cute can go a long way in sales. There is a ton of money to be made in Advertising, it makes the world go round!
Plan B
Tell her to go to school and keep dancing. People can hate on college all they want, but the more you have in your head the more you are worth to an employer. Just having X number of degrees doesn't mean an 80k a year job is going to fall in your lap. You might have to take a job that isnt so cool. Just get in there hustle and make some moves and you'll be able to get to where you want. I'm going to graduate in May, and I've already came to terms with the fact that my first job won't be coming up with a new ad campagin for Coke or Nike, I'll prob. be trying to find a new and exciting way to say buy 3 get 1 free or some crap, but I'll hustle my way to bigger and better thing.
Pamela
12-16-2005, 12:41 PM
There are a few possibilities not related to sex ...
drug importer,
contract hit woman,
kidnapper
... oh, you meant LEGAL possibilities ?
senator !
Lol yea right!!!
Seriously get her into a very upscale club (does not have to be a strip club) Perhaps a private club of some sort, and these women make damn good $$$$ being bartenders!!! Serving food at a fancy rest. does not even come close.
Bartenders down here get HUGE friggin tips at upscale clubs. I have seen the tips left for a woman just handing over a damn drink or two. Name of this game seems to be friends (inside friends of course) with these guys, and they will wait for you!!!
Pamela