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WiseGuy_TX
10-02-2006, 07:42 AM
...oppsss, you are right, it has two. I was there last night and still could'nt get it right.:D

aggieed
10-02-2006, 07:56 AM
It's certainly easy to forget that they even have stages. :D

mblank
10-02-2006, 08:51 AM
Aggieed, so she had to start doing blow jobs? My point exactly. When in Rome you must do as Romans, eventually. You gotta do something to keep your head above water. My friend has a funny nickname for Treasures, "The Whorehouse Warehouse".

But Katrine has the right idea, focus on out of towners. Men from Houston expect what they have come to know as the norm. They get cranky and don't like you when you are not down with the Houston program. Also, when your money dwindles after a bit from lack of extras, I advised moving around different clubs. The mystique of being the new girl again should help.

And, cheetachick, heading to a different city might be a better choice. Wiseguy is right, the myth of the oil money is only a myth. There is no more big oil money here anymore. My advice is to go to Austin. You can make so much more money without the hassle. I don't know anything about Dallas cause I never worked there.

Tina
10-02-2006, 09:56 AM
Cheetah Chick, the best thing to do is to get hired at a few clubs and experience the club scene yourself. I have worked there as have many girls, but you can ask a lot of questions and never really get a good feel for things unless you work the clubs.

Most guys want sex. And once it is widely available, how many guys would rather have a low contact lap dance instead of a chance to cum? Think about what I just said.

Bridgette
10-02-2006, 02:49 PM
I would never move to Houston as a stripper.

Austin would definitely be a much better choice.

Star Player
10-07-2006, 02:41 PM
Treasures is one of the most popular clubs in Houston, Friday and Sat nite forget it you can't even find a parking place. Next to treasures I like the Ritz. And Centerfolds is also a super place to party.

There is probably more money in the area Treasures (Galleria) is in vs the Ritz (SE). Corporate expense accounts can result in stirppers making big $ with the right guy. A guy I ran to at a Microsoft Access Seminar who is a financial anayst for Exxon Mobil told me he ran up $1800 on his Amex for him and 2 male coworkers for dinner, drinks, and lap dances at a guys nite out. Quite a party. They also tipped the gals big time like $100 each. This was a nite out at Centerfolds. One of the guys who had never been to a SC before later went back a week later and spent $800 on drinks / lap dances.

Bridgette
10-07-2006, 03:25 PM
^^LOL!! A whole $1800 for 3 guys for dinner, drinks, lapdances and a whole $100 tip for the girls. LOL. That's just not that much money. Especially on an expense account. I've seen guys spend 10 times that on group parties, and had some spend that amount and up to 3 times that on just me. What's more the girls most likely only saw about $300 each of that $1800 AND I'll bet my eyeteeth they had to do a bit more than dance for it. Perfect example of why I would never dance in Houston.

Crow
10-07-2006, 05:37 PM
Treasures is one of the most popular clubs in Houston, Friday and Sat nite forget it you can't even find a parking place. Next to treasures I like the Ritz. And Centerfolds is also a super place to party.

There is probably more money in the area Treasures (Galleria) is in vs the Ritz (SE). Corporate expense accounts can result in stirppers making big $ with the right guy. A guy I ran to at a Microsoft Access Seminar who is a financial anayst for Exxon Mobil told me he ran up $1800 on his Amex for him and 2 male coworkers for dinner, drinks, and lap dances at a guys nite out. Quite a party. They also tipped the gals big time like $100 each. This was a nite out at Centerfolds. One of the guys who had never been to a SC before later went back a week later and spent $800 on drinks / lap dances.


For Houston? Thats really not a lot..

mblank
10-07-2006, 05:59 PM
My thoughts exactly, Bridgette.

Star Player
10-07-2006, 06:53 PM
Mblank hit it on the head on her 10/01/06 post above. She seems very perceptive about what it takes for a lot of them to make it in Houston.

Bridgette
10-09-2006, 02:44 AM
Most of us don't WANT to make it Houston. Because it's so much BETTER almost ANYwhere else ::)

avacheetahs
10-09-2006, 06:36 AM
^ Yeah even Corpus. Believe it or not, i made more in Corpus doing clean dances (by Houston standards ie: grind and no HJ BJ FS tit touching or even ass caress if you don't want) than I did in Houston. I'm kinda attached to this town, stinky beaches and all. I'm actually glad I cut my teeth in CC. And I've been out of TX too so it's not like I haven't seen the show clubs. They're nice but I'm a TX girl, can't see myself living anywhere else till I'm done w/ school. I'm sad to move back to Houston, but there are a couple clubs I will at least feel at home in. Being near my mom makes it worth it, and I swear I will get a regular job if it gets to be too gross. I have a tolerance but I'm not afraid to shut it down, and I think that's empowering, I've got money saved and I aint scared to quit.

Tina
10-09-2006, 10:23 AM
You do get good spending customers in Houston. When I worked at St. James and Ritz, I got quite a few guys who would spend $300-$400 on a tab just for MY dances, plus tip the waitresses $50-$75. We get the whole $20 per dance on the tab, and the guys are charged $25 per dance. There is money there and the clubs are set up for big spenders. I have had more lump sum spenders there than in many clubs around the country. Some guys spend well over $1000. The problem with Houston is that all your money comes off of one or 2 guys in a shift, you don't really make money going table to table. And if you can't find those couple guys who will spend over $100 on you, you make no money.

Some guys from out of town will be cool with full contact dances for their money. The guys in the know are looking for sex.

Katrine
10-09-2006, 10:30 AM
You do get good spending customers in Houston. When I worked at St. James and Ritz, I got quite a few guys who would spend $300-$400 on a tab just for MY dances, plus tip the waitresses $50-$75. We get the whole $20 per dance on the tab, and the guys are charged $25 per dance. There is money there and the clubs are set up for big spenders. I have had more lump sum spenders there than in many clubs around the country. Some guys spend well over $1000. The problem with Houston is that all your money comes off of one or 2 guys in a shift, you don't really make money going table to table. And if you can't find those couple guys who will spend over $100 on you, you make no money.

Some guys from out of town will be cool with full contact dances for their money. The guys in the know are looking for sex.

Tina, that's consistent with my experience. Except for events such as OTC and the Superbowl, I usually would be able to get a lot of money off of a few men.

There are a LOT of Customer Bullshit artists in Htown that know how to waste girls' time for no pay. You have to learn to spot those guys quickly, otherwise you will waste your night. Extras hounds are good for 1-2 dances max. After that, even I couldn't handle them anymore and would leave.

If you are comfortable doing some extras in Houston, perhaps a HJ or 10, ,then the road will be less rocky for you. I experimented with this on a few occasions, just to see if I had it in me. I didn't. :'(

Lola Lee
10-10-2006, 11:08 PM
Doh! What's a 10, Katrine?

Farrah_Holiday
10-10-2006, 11:35 PM
Doh! What's a 10, Katrine?

She means 10 hjs !

NewbieTx
10-12-2006, 05:44 PM
Ladies don't come to Houston, if you don't have to. It really sucks dancing here, and I agree with the others responses about the contact level here. Guys are very touchy, and there are very few good clubs to choose from. lately i have been making around 300--ish, it's not worth the travel..actually I am looking for a better place to work, maybe out of state or somethingd

Star Player
10-13-2006, 04:13 AM
I would advise a guy going to treasures to bring condoms and if he takes viagra to take it probably 15-30 min before entering the club (that way by the time he has met a lady it will have a chance for good absorbtion and effectiveness. Do not store it in your car as Houstons hot humid climate will drain its effectiveness leading to tragic embarrassment). Even on a normal weekday afternoon this place will be packed (and we all know why that is). I normally do not do gals ITC but at Treasures sometimes a situation where you were merely planning just lap dances can explode out of control. I am not saying all these gals are rip roaring to do extras but they are certainly less inhibited than at the clubs I frequent on the SE side of town. I consulted with a good friend Mike (he is 68 amd a very experienced SC player who concentrates most of his spending on gals who come to his house for OTC action ) before going there and he related his experiences there which I found quite incredible if not outright unbelievable. I wanted to go see the place for myself and got this opportunity when a financial planning conference I was attending ended at 3pm on a Friday afternoon. Getting a parking place was tough (not used to this based on my SE clubs like Ritz, Sugars, and Heartbreakers). The inside was more dark than usual and it was difficult to find a place to sit. Finally I enlisted the assistance of a dancer who quickly found one, a very beautiful young black girl (she said she had been a CL in HS). As a gentleman, I do not try to feel in the g string area but of course will take my liberties with other areas during a lap dance as this is the way it is in Houston. We talked awhile but her soothing touch and feeling her so fine legs made me want dances with her. She led me to a lap dance area (couches against the wall) that was so dark she must have had some kind of radar to get there. After a couple of "very close" dances the conversation got to sex and without going into detail and her delightful persistende I ended up doing her for $100 (she asked me for a dollar amt and when I threw this out she readily accepted - very reasonable considering the usual $200 - $300 I had been doing certains one OTC). Thankfully I had brought condoms but she did not seem concerned if I used one or not - scary! That nite I told Mike about the experience and he said "I told you" (his experiences with Centerfolds and Treasures). While I like to balance ITC and OTC spending he is agressively mostly an OTC seeking guy. I really try to be a gentleman with the gals, tipping them generously and I love to give them shopping money.

For you dancers, I am not trying to insinuate all gals who work at Treasures will do sex ITC but you will be competing against some young, beautiful ones who do and who aggressively pursue it with customers. I do not go into clubs seekin ITC sex but in some situations this is simply what evolved. My GF (who is blonde, 27) occasionally dances at Heartbreakers but she has cut this down about 75% since hooking up with me. I give her $300 per session plus occasional dinner, bonus, and shopping money. She probably averages about $2000+ a month from me (she is a single mom with one child - typical stripper story - HS dropout with kid(s) to support, dad is dead or deadbeat). She feels our meeting at HB was "meant to be." I have discussed marriage, or taking her as my common law wife (her moving into my 2 BR condo on Clear Lake) but she wants her independence (and thats fine - we will continue to meet like we do then). I am about twice her age. Consequently this arrangement leaves me free to enjoy SC ativities. Life is good!

PleasureVictim
10-13-2006, 05:58 AM
Interesting.... :-X

WiseGuy_TX
10-13-2006, 06:09 AM
As a gentleman,...TopGun Derek, thank you for insight into the mind of the typical pervy customer. It helps in reinforcing the warnings.

mblank
10-13-2006, 07:07 AM
Exactly, wiseguy.

However Starplayer, I find a few things wrong with your posting. I suspect that nobody else wants to touch it with a 10 foot pole because they just feel you are wrong all around. But $100 for sex is not really taking care of a girl, as you stated in your other posts about Houston men really taking care of girls. I can't believe you pay off your girlfriend, that makes her a whore, not your girlfriend. And for her to cut back on working for a meager $2000 a month??? How many other Star Players does she fuck on the side??? I suspect it would take a few to let her quit her job financially. Frankly, that's not that big of a payoff. And the typical stripper story is not always about a highschool dropout with kids and a dead dad.

There is my humble opinion for what it is worth. Probably not much to you, since you see me as a high school dropout, desperate to feed kids with a daddy complex, and eager to fuck for $100.

Furthermore, why are you trying to educate gentlemen as to when to take their viagra, how to store it and get laid in the pink section. I don't think the ladies care to hear it. You made your point in previous posts that Houston/Treasures is about fucking. And I backed you on that. But educating the men??? Go to the Blue side. I am sure they would love to hear from you.

Once again, wiseguy is correct, you have just reinforced for all of us girls why Houston sucks!

Bridgette
10-13-2006, 02:08 PM
^^I was about to post something very similar, but probably not as nice ;D And yeah, go post that shit on the blue side because this section is for STRIPPER club chat. As in where we discuss places to work. It's NOT for Johns to discuss where to find hookers.

Dude, you're only proving that you're a cheapass John and that most Houston Johns are equally cheapass. Not to mention annoying.

Btw, those "strippers" you refer to who "aggressively pursue" paid sex ITC are NOT strippers. They're hookers who just decided to take advantage of a shitty club situation and come in off the streets. Call it what it is dude. We'll respect you more for it ::)

mblank
10-13-2006, 02:41 PM
Come to think of it, Bridgette, I haven't seen that many street hookers lately here in H-town. I think you're right. They have have come in out of the cold (or the heat, whichever it may be). And landed all their asses in Treasures...

Geez... I remember when I was in my teens and I read an article in Texas Monthly about the booming strip club business in Houston and how women were making oodles of money. There was money abound here and men were spending. The clubs were supposed to be classier then, with drop dead gorgeous ladies who were buying real estate investments and going to school. NOT HOOKERS!!! As a teen, I dreamed of being one of these high-class ladies one day, being pampered like Anna Nicole.

The myth and dream of Houston is dead. Ladies don't come here unless you want Starplayer chasing you with his viagra hard-on in one hand and a measly $100 in the other, waiting to fuck you on a cum covered couch in the dark, condom or not.

Classy, isn't it???

Emily
10-13-2006, 02:50 PM
I think the post by Star Player will get deleted, but I hope it doesn't. This is good information for dancers for what she can expect if she dances in Houston.

just reading that garbage makes my skin crawl. I can't imagine having to deal with it in person every night.

I've never danced in Houston, but I've danced for guys from Houston (and southern Florida) and they usually think I'm a huge prude. They are spoiled and inevitably ask, "how can you make money here?"....and then comes the, "you'd make more money in Houston." The irony is thatit appears that I wouldn't, from what SP's girlfriend makes as a "dancer" in Houston.

mblank
10-13-2006, 03:02 PM
I think you are right, Emily. I hope his post stands so that all the poor unsuspecting girls (like me) that come to Houston know exactly what to expect.

Bridgette
10-13-2006, 04:05 PM
Yes I agree, I hope the post doesn't get deleted; annoying as it is, it is great info on what to expect for girls considering dancing in Houston.

Mblank, there was a thread here a while back, from an old-time Houston customer, who talked about how nice, clean, classy, etc the Houston strip clubs were in the 80s and early 90s, until the ridiculous local ordinances basically turned them into brothels in order to stay in business in 1997. He talked about how the girls were so beautiful, wore long gowns and made tons of money for DANCING. Then the city over-regulated, the customers ran off (and so did most of the girls), and the few who were left at the time started offering more contact just to make a living. Mgmt turned their heads in order to get butts in the seats. Customers of course started talking, and before you knew it, all the johns were filling the clubs looking for sex, and hookers were everywhere looking to sell to them.

It's a fact that when clubs start letting shit like that go on, local hookers literally come in off the streets to do their business in the clubs because it's a bit safer than working the streets. Alot of the girls who used to make money dancing will leave, and the new breed of dancers don't know better so they just go along with what they see and are told by customers. Some of the girls who stay either live with drastically reduced income because they can't compete with the girls offering sex or they start fucking too.

That guy went so far as to say he thought the clubs were better BEFORE all this happened, and sometimes missed the old days. Because he'd seen them go from really nice establishments where guys could get nice entertainment they didn't have to sneak around about, to places where bleary-eyed girls could be seen literally fucking on the main floor for $20 a song. All because local politicians over-regulated. Strip clubs were much nicer when we had fewer local regulations and were more self-regulated - this is true for a whole lot of cities. Houston is just the most glaring and well-known example.

I'm also with Emily on dancing for dumbasses from Houston or south FL. They always make idiotic remarks about how I must not make any money where I am because all we do is dance, and that I'd make soooo much more in Houston. I just laugh at them because the reality is, we make MORE than most girls in Houston and we're doing LESS. So fuck you Houston whoremongers. Stay in Houston, or south FL :P



I will say this also: Star Player's post makes it sound like he and his buddies see women as nothing more than objects to be bought. He offers to marry his "girlfriend" so he'll support her and her kid rather than pay her directly. And $2k a month?? LMAO. Low-end secretaries make that. Strippers in AZ make a whole lot more than that with our $10 dances. No way in hell will some wrinkly viagra dick get anywhere near me for that kinda money. LOL!!

mblank
10-13-2006, 05:21 PM
I wish I was anywhere but here. I am planning to go back to Austin in a year, when my lease is up. I know Austin may not be the big dream I read about in Texas Monthly years ago, but it will be better than here. I know it is, it's my hometown.

There's no place like home...

Katrine
10-13-2006, 08:39 PM
to places where bleary-eyed girls could be seen literally fucking on the main floor for $20 a song.


B, one thing about Houston. Because of the blasted regulations, really high stageside contact isn't that common. In fact, mainfloor dances aren't really done. Most guys won't even buy unless they can be seated in a more private area in the dark corner.

When I used to give average-contact dances on the floor, "managers" (bouncers really) would come up and yell at me This is because if the cops walk in, they would see contact right in front of their eyes. It take a few minutes for eyes to adjust to the dirty dirty in the back. Club management didn't want to increase their chances of a bust even though dicks are being sucked all around...

That's been my experience...

Oh, and Derek dahlink, how I've missed you and your super sexy stories. ::)

NinaDaisy
10-13-2006, 08:47 PM
Star Player, thank you for reminding at how thrilled I am to never have danced in Houston.

Bridgette
10-14-2006, 12:12 AM
Oh Kat, I was merely reporting what had been said by a customer in another thread re: the fucking on the main floor. Of course I have no idea if that's true, but judging from that guy's posts in that thread I assumed he'd been telling the truth. Who knows which club he was talking about....

Agreed on the part about being glad for never dancing in Houston. Sheesh. When I used to make my crazy road trips coming out of NOLA on I10, for whatever reason I always got a really bad vibe just driving through Houston, so I never so much as stopped for gas there. I am glad I listened to my gut back then.

miabella
10-14-2006, 12:39 AM
star player pretty well describes what is so brutal about dancing in houston, even if you are making decent money extras-free. if the guys were really 'taking care' of the extras girls, they would all be coming home with 1-2k a night and such. and that isn't even the case in treasures. so many girls start out just dancing there, if they are good hustlers, and then they accept a large offer for extras, and before you know it they are going home with 40$ because they couldn't find any customers to do 100$ extras for. that happens to a LOT of girls.

houston's mix of trafficked asian and latina massage parlor hookers, six dozen or so strip clubs, plus the non-trafficked parlor girls and independent escorts just makes it not a great place to do sexwork. a guy in houston can just about literally get sex from SOME woman at extremely low prices any hour of day or night. there's no specific zone or district where everything clusters.

but you know, i will put aside my angst about the situation in houston for now and finish up this post like so.

Star Player
10-14-2006, 07:28 PM
I frankly can not see how Houston gals would make more than $500 a nite unless they hit a big spender. My GF tells me she barely broke even with tipout and childcare and that I am a much better deal than her having to dance at the club, being groped by all the horny guys coming there many of them not spending more than $40 on dances if that much. She is 27 yr old attractive and blonde. She says she has been in the "industry" for 11 years.

When I go to a club to party ITC, usually try to spend at least $40 - $100 on dances (if I like the girl). Sure the guys with the big corp credit cards may spend more, but the company is paying for it. While I may give a $10 - $20 tip and treat the gal nice with a lot of compliments in addition to the dances, I usually will not stay longer than a dance rotation. The gals that give me the biz they have only made $2 all day (or pressure me for dances without even trying to get to know me) I will buy them a drink, cop whatever free feelies come along, and when its time to leave say "I am going to mensroom" walk out of the club and never look back chalking it up as a cheap ITC entertainment nite out. Bottom line if the gal takes care of me I go out of my way to take care of her.

Bridgette
10-14-2006, 07:35 PM
Starplayer, you're cementing your reputation as a cheapass obnoxious piece of shit. But then that's what most of us think of Houston customers anyway ;D

We who say we make more than that just dancing, don't work in Houston! Thankfully.

We know most the girls can't possibly make more than $500 or so in Houston, and likely not even that much for a whole lot of girls. That's shitty. This only makes us more and more glad we don't work there.

And, wouldya please stop calling her your GF?? If you're paying her, she's your sugar baby :P

mblank
10-14-2006, 09:10 PM
When will some people take a hint???

Pssst...Starplayer...THE BLUE SIDE!!!

Katrine
10-15-2006, 10:18 AM
I made around $500 pretty regularly in Houston. BUT, that was while working loooooong shifts and allowing a tremendous amount of groping and grinding. Eventually even that money dried up in clubs once I was no longer new and not willing to suck it.

On my main extras experimentation day, I made $600 in less than one hour.....3 handjobs to completion in a napkin. I made about $200 a piece, for a couple of dances and the HJ. It was pretty good money, and certainly more expensive for the custy than the ASPD guys B.S. about. I can't imagine doing that on a regular basis though, it would make me sick. I'm already traumatized from the few things I did.

beauty21queen
10-15-2006, 12:39 PM
I know I sound dumb here but I really have never seen a girl do extras so I wonder how and where do they do it im just completely clueless with this, now im not saying I want to do it but I really just dont know.

ascifilullaby
10-15-2006, 02:00 PM
i was averaging around $500 per shift here till a couple of weeks ago when the club got slow, so it is possible in houston. in fact, i have hardly any customers even ask about extras anymore, much less hassle me about them. it seems like either the availability of extras seems to be dropping, or those type of customers are sticking more with the parlors and spas.

Katrine
10-15-2006, 05:22 PM
I know I sound dumb here but I really have never seen a girl do extras so I wonder how and where do they do it im just completely clueless with this, now im not saying I want to do it but I really just dont know.

They are done in dark corners, private room clubs, and VIP/Champagne areas. Here on SW, we do get overly histrionic about the extras. I danced in Houston for years without doing anything major. There's money to be made, but even the regular guys at Treasure's were SO gropey, unbelievable......

miabella
10-15-2006, 05:50 PM
scifi, guys don't tend to ask at your club for such things during the winter months because there are so many bachelor/business/holiday things going on that bring in plenty of business. both years i danced in houston, oct-dec were just bumper-crop months, with sept and jan/feb being not-shabby either.

Star Player
10-26-2006, 08:31 PM
But Kat u were charging $25 (on tab) for $20 dances! you would not get me that way - I always do cash LOL.