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Bridgette
01-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Hey, I don't hate. I respect anyone who can work in those conditions and make money. I know it would be too stressful for me. I like my easy hustle club and the money I make here, ESPECIALLY in relation to the MUCH LOWER cost of living here in AZ. I'll take that any day over the ridiculous cost of living and stress levels for what's really not that much more money over there :)

nychaos99
01-13-2006, 02:39 PM
They prefer the blonde, fake boobs, Pamela Anderson types of girls, maybe 1 or 2 tattoos that can be easily concealed. I heard some men complain that PEC doesn't have diversity, just the barbie types, but yet when most men come in there, that is what they are looking for.

This is so stupid. First off, we have very few blondes here, and many of our entertainers have real boobs or small fake ones. We are the most diverse club out there, except the girls here are really hot. That is for sure--- I guess you could arguably say that the girls here are barbie types, but that is because all the entertainers here spend a long time getting ready. They are all well manicured, no visible roots (you all know who you are!), tan year round, perfect skin and perfect hair. The girls here look like dolls, but like Melonie said, the New York market caters to fortune 500s and Wall Street types---and this is what they want to spend their money on: high-maintenance hot girls.

Also, we have many girls who have tatoos, and we don't require them to cover them. Now, will we hire a girl covered in them? No.

Sorry to answer so quickly, I just can't stand it when people stereotype this place. I wouldn't mind so much if they were right....

nychaos99
01-13-2006, 02:45 PM
Yep, I was just going to post something about the tattoo. And yes, she doesn't look like a barbie type. I would say borderline crack ho skinny with no boobs.

I think we should start a thread titled "Am I hot enough for PEC?"

Again, I am a 5'10" Halle Berry type with 34DD natural breasts. Any takers?
LOL

Now, now, that's not very nice, is it? Not everyone can be blessed with big ass DD boobs, and not everyone wants fake ones.

If you look like Halle Berry (of course, PLUS gigantic boobies) then you should definitely come here and audition. You'll get hired quickly. If you actually look like Chuck Berry, well......

LOL

nychaos99
01-13-2006, 03:06 PM
Ok, to clear some things up-
We don't have 'feature' dancers. I don't know why the owners wanted it worded that way, probably because when we opened, they had NO experience in strip clubs. They didn't realize what the term 'feature' meant. I know, because I helped develop the site, that they wanted it to be like, "entertainer of the week" or whatever. Ha ha, in THIS case, it should have said "entertainer of the past 3 years". We are in the process of updating our site (I've been bitching about it FOREVER, I promise)- our site has gotten really stale.

QUOTE: i have nothing to bitch about. but my honest opinion is that her body looks too bony. and if she was gorgeous...why doesn't she have a full face shot? they're all from the side.

Ok, she is really skinny, and it's unfortunate that she looks a little bony in the pics. So be it. She used to clean up house here. Those pics weren't taken for the website, those are stills from the commercial we shot for the club, in 2003. This is why there aren't face shots. She hasn't worked here in years, she left to go back to Vegas (I believe) 2 years ago. I haven't seen her since.

QUOTE:
And how does one get that job??

(1)Be male in your mid to late twenties
(2) Be a high school dropout from Staten Island
(3) Have an IQ of less than 60 and speak in monosyllables
(4) Wear a black polyester suit one size to small (with your "Pimpin' Ain't Easy" boxers underneath)

*You forgot one MAJOR reason they get the job:
(5) Know a LOT of deviant rich ass MFs who like to party and spend serious loot in strip clubs.
---Oh, and our guys are in their late 30s, early 40s.

QUOTE: Who do you think management is? Hint: They have a nice, extended family back home in Sicily.

Maybe this is true at other clubs, but our 5 owners are Jewish, and all born in the good ole' USA.

Silky
01-13-2006, 03:52 PM
Do short women, 5"1-5"4 without stilettos, get hired alot?

Silky
01-13-2006, 03:54 PM
meaning short women who make sure they are in excellent shape of course

Optimist
01-13-2006, 04:03 PM
So if the bouncers are hired for who they bring into the club, they are calling the shots. The managers are figureheads doing paperwork and dealing with loftier tasks. The girls have little to no control over how much they can make beyond lapdance fees because the bouncers will destroy a sale you've made at will. Whether they feel another girl tips more so she should get the custy or they feel another girl will do light prostitution so she should get the custy. What makes PEC superior for the girls if they can't get the fruit of their hard labor nychaos99?

Melonie
01-13-2006, 04:28 PM
Whether they feel another girl tips more so she should get the custy or they feel another girl will do light prostitution so she should get the custy. What makes PEC superior for the girls if they can't get the fruit of their hard labor

Welcome to the Big Apple ! As others have posted, girls who are 'comfortable with the program' gain exposure to 4 figure nightly earnings potential. On the other hand, girls who 'don't fit in' earn very little, which serves as a management mechanism to convince those girls to move on so that one of the new girls auditioning that night can take her place. Upscale manhattan clubs are clearly a 'buyers market' with no shortage of willing dancers and with uncommonly high earnings potential. Upscale manhattan club management has no motivation/necessity whatsoever to change the status quo, or to deal with dancers who aren't comfortable with the status quo and want things to work differently. The operative word is ... NEXT !

Optimist
01-13-2006, 04:44 PM
I've worked other Manhattan clubs and they never struck me that way. Granted, I was friendly with my managers but I never felt like I had to pay kickbacks or go beyond my comfort zone to do well. I just stuck to my schedule and worked hard while I was there. All of that sounds specific to a handfull of clubs not all Manhattan clubs.

Melonie
01-14-2006, 11:14 AM
All of that sounds specific to a handfull of clubs not all Manhattan clubs.

Well, that's probably true. The upper echelon of clubs i.e. Scores East, PEC etc. are the ones that attract the 'upper class' customers with the fattest wallets - are the clubs that offer four figure dancer earnings potential - are the ones that have a constant stream of hot new dancers wishing to audition - thus are the ones where the clubowners are in the 'driver's seat' .

Of course, there are a bunch of other Manhattan clubs within a block or two of Scores East, PEC etc. which are NOT in the upper echelon. These clubs attract fewer 'upper class' customers as opposed to tourists and 'middle class' businessmen. These clubs offer a three figure dancer earnings potential vs. four figure - these clubs have fewer hot new dancers banging on their door - thus these clubs are a bit more inclined to be accomodating to the hot dancers already working for them. So if a dancer is more comfortable settling for 1/3 of the earnings potential in exchange for 'better' treatment by club management ... hey to each his own.

However, the cost of living is essentially the same in NYC no matter what club you are working for - meaning that the amount of money a dancer has left over after paying for 'essentials' may be far more if she's working for Scores East, PEC etc. than if she's working for other Manhattan clubs with significantly lower dancer earnings potential. It really boils down to the 'differential' between earnings potential and expenses which determines how popular clubs are from the standpoint of hot new dancers wishing to pound on the club's door. From that standpoint, many NYC area dancers have realized that the 'differential' earnings of many Manhattan clubs actually produce LESS money after expenses are paid than working at other clubs in North Jersey, Upstate NY, CT etc. which have similar three figure earnings potential but significantly lower costs of living/'expenses'.

Optimist
01-14-2006, 12:29 PM
And what also sucks is even if they crawl through that spiritual muck in the beginning those clubs will burn most girls out on this industry altogether. Maybe it's better for girls who want to take a shot at these clubs to save as much as they can while they work and expect to move on after a year. Just don't tell the club that so you can still get hired.;)

Mimi NY
01-15-2006, 11:00 AM
I have no idea who has a vested interest in PEC in this site, but I've NEVER heard good things about it! It's a nice club, fine, but it's not busy at all, not compared to Scores West and East, and the girls are not as hot as Scores or VIP. A couple of sagging flat chested girls, one with really bad acne, a few hotties. Nope, for all you non New-Yorkers, forget the PEC myths. Get along to Scores and Flashdancers to earn good money and have a lot of clients.

Melonie
01-15-2006, 02:53 PM
Agreed, Mimi, I prefer Flashdancers myself. However, PEC does have the 'hype factor' going for it with the Fortune 500 and Wall St. types of big spending customers, where Flashdancers has fewer 'whales' and a lot more tourists and regular businessmen.

PS as far as decent dancer treatment by Manhattan club management goes, it's pretty much 'fuggedaboudit' across the board. The clubs are too 'corporate' and there are too many hot new dancers lining up to audition for any Manhattan club to consider a given dancer as anything but 'expendable'.

achick
01-15-2006, 05:54 PM
Now, now, that's not very nice, is it? Not everyone can be blessed with big ass DD boobs, and not everyone wants fake ones.

If you look like Halle Berry (of course, PLUS gigantic boobies) then you should definitely come here and audition. You'll get hired quickly. If you actually look like Chuck Berry, well......

LOL

NyChaos99 - LMAO!!!! Thank you so much!!! You are so funny girl!!

:D

nychaos99
01-16-2006, 11:45 AM
So if the bouncers are hired for who they bring into the club, they are calling the shots. The managers are figureheads doing paperwork and dealing with loftier tasks. The girls have little to no control over how much they can make beyond lapdance fees because the bouncers will destroy a sale you've made at will. Whether they feel another girl tips more so she should get the custy or they feel another girl will do light prostitution so she should get the custy. What makes PEC superior for the girls if they can't get the fruit of their hard labor nychaos99?

By the way, thanks Melonie for explaining all this....

Ok, (deep breath)...

The bouncers do not necessarily call ALL of the shots. If a guy (customer) is already in a private room, and he/they want more girls, then yes- the Floor Host (bouncers don't administrate rooms) will go get an entertainer that he feels most fits his customers' needs, or his own needs (tips). If a customer is on the floor, meets an entertainer, and wants to go in a room with her, the Floor Host does as told. Because in the long run, the customer will tip the Floor Host at the end of the evening (or whenever).

The Managers are figureheads, but are NOT doing the paperwork. That's what we do during the day. There is light paperwork to take care of, but that's during the pre-opening of the club and sometimes after we close. The Managers are taking care of anything from complaints, comping/reducing housefees, comping drinks, reducing room charges, etc, etc....managerial things/issues which come up throughout the evening.

I don't know what you mean by "destroy a sale you've made at will." Sorry. I'm assuming you mean that even though an entertainer gets a guy to spend money on her, the bouncer (floor host) will take that away. Is this what you meant? If so, this is totally incorrect. What a girl makes, she makes. No one takes that away, in any form. She hooks a customers, he's hers.

Now, do the bouncers (floor hosts) have control over who gets in the room? Sometimes... (see my first paragraph)- But, don't forget, there are MANY new customers who come in, who don't have a Floor Host. An Entertainer meets him, he wants to go into a room with her, she must get a floor host. NOW, the tables have turned, haven't they? The Entertainer has control over which Floor Host handles HER customer. She will then choose a Floor Host based on a number of reasons.

So you see, there are two sides to everything. An Entertainer and a Floor Host must work together. It's important. They can help each other out. Scratch one another's back so to say (totally gross if taken literally...LOL).

We aren't superior- there is a place/club/atmosphere for everyone. That's what makes competition so good....

Optimist
01-16-2006, 06:13 PM
Ok. That sounds better. I had heard that if the host isn't familiar or friends with you he'd boot you from your sale for one of his dancer buddies. I'm glad to hear that's not the case.

Vyanka
01-18-2006, 08:30 AM
I think that girl is gorgeous. She's thin & has a pretty face, that's all you need really. Men can deal with any size tits, as long as they look good. Plus, in the city i've seen lots of girls with that look. And there was one at my club who had that similar look(tall, thin, pretty face, small b cup boobs) & she use to bank! Lots of guys love that look.

8eyespyder
03-20-2006, 04:47 AM
Wow, I checked out the pic of the pec dancer and she is gorgeous,, high cheekbones, looks like a model, models usually have that thin tall look, it's very elegant and classy,, I guess the Wall st. guys prefer the model look over the thicker shorter look that is more common, maybe the reason being cause it's an average look? I'm taking a guess here cause if you think abou t it most rock stars and movie stars marry models and so maybe richer men prefer that tall thin model look?,,, And her face is flawless, she has exquisite features,,, after seeing her pic now I realize what all the fuss is about getting hired there.

kikiwiki
03-20-2006, 10:23 AM
is it impossible to get hired at one of the ultra high end clubs if you have a large amount of well done tattoos?
Yes, very hard. They try to stick with a classic, sexy look.

kikiwiki
03-20-2006, 10:49 AM
Who do you think management is? Hint: They have a nice, extended family back home in Sicily.
Or are Albanian...

Katherine
09-09-2006, 12:43 PM
I just checked out the feature as she made such a big fuss up in here. Everytime I check that website she's the feature. Granted I don't check it for months at a time, so it could just be a coincidence. But I swear that the four/five times I've checked that site out in the last year or two, she's been the feature...

Katherine
09-09-2006, 12:51 PM
I take back my complaining bout the girl being up there forever. I just finished reading the whole thread...

Andygirl
09-10-2006, 09:33 AM
That all sounds really stressful and competitive. I don't think I could handle it.

I'd rather stick to being the big fish in my small pond. ;D

OliviaDC
09-10-2006, 10:18 AM
No pole? What exactly do you, uh, do then- I'm taking it if they find pole work to be not classy, that they sure as hell don't allow the girls to squirm about on the floor...

And the feature- she looks like a model. She does look underweight to me- hopefully she takes care of her health. But she's far from hideous, for god's sake, I don't see the need for all the hate.

I dunno. Maybe if I was gorgeous like the girls they require, I'd have a different view, but I feel at home in a much smaller, funkier kinda club. I'd miss seeing my co-workers clap-ass against the mirror.... :)

sensuality
09-11-2006, 06:55 AM
So what exactly are the house fees like in this club, and/or other upscale Manhattan clubs?

smartcookie
09-11-2006, 09:36 AM
So what exactly are the house fees like in this club, and/or other upscale Manhattan clubs?

Depends on the night of the week. Between house fees and tipouts you can generally plan on owing at least $250. If you want champagne hosts to "hook you up" with "special VIP customers" it will be more.

Julie, Julie
03-10-2008, 11:32 PM
Was not too impressed with PEC...because they will pass up beautiful ladies, and hire "average" ones at times it seems.

Pamela[/quote]



THANK GOD someone said this!!!!!!!!! I was there one Friday night(4months ago) and saw no girl who was worth remembering. Durring this one girl's lap dance for my boyfriend, she did the bootie-jiggle-shake, and I could have upchucked my cocktail: her ass was one of the most UNFIRM and SAGGY that I have EVER seen on a young woman!!!! How the HELL did she grt HIRED???????????????????

austinatalie
03-10-2008, 11:44 PM
OOOLD thread alert!

velvet
03-11-2008, 12:13 AM
what is with the old threads tonight. closed..