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SportsWriter2
04-10-2006, 08:47 PM
The issue key to my point was consent. I don't expect you to gauge the level at which a dancer minds, tolerates, prefers or enjoys it, as long as you're certain she consents to it.
Interesting point, Ev. Verbal consent probably is my blankie. I play a game called "Rate It 1-10" to see what dancers prefer. Then we spend more time on the things that scored 16-20 between the two of us.
I think ass probers are different. It's hard to talk when you're far away. :-\
mr_punk
04-13-2006, 07:39 PM
What led to any confusion was your use of the word aggressive to mean assertive. I contend that it would have been much clearer for you to use the word assertive if that's what you meant by aggressive, since it's not unreasonable to interpret aggressive as describing forceable action in the context of ass partitioning in which it was used.nice try, but i haven't heard this much bullsh#t come out of one stripper's mouth since. well, since last week. seriously, using your logic, if i called a stripper "aggressive". would you "reasonably" conclude that she's pistol-whipping customers for their wallets? i don't think so. speaking of context, i don't recall mentioning any twisting of arms, the holding of a gun to a neck stump, the negative reaction of the stripper, etc. any of which would indicate that forceable action was taking place. hell, i even told you they accept the money.
now, it's supposed to be my fault that you cried wolf...oops..rape, playing it like the feminist version of the race card. frankly, you leapt to this "not unreasonable" conclusion all on your own. sorry, but that's not my problem. lastly, if consider a customer grabbing and spreading a paid stripper's asscheeks to be a forceable action. you must be smoking some pretty powerful stuff. obviously, you're so high. you must be under the impression that i go to air sc or something.
The issue key to my point was consent. I don't expect you to gauge the level at which a dancer minds, tolerates, prefers or enjoys it, as long as you're certain she consents to it.how magnanimous of you to bestow me with your approval. why, i live for it.
Now that we've clarified that you mean assertive, if you want to characterize yourself as aggressive in your ass probing but admit you have consent, then I see there's no contradiction in that braggartly statement.oh joy, more approval. why, this must be my lucky day. seriously, what's this "we" sh#t? this ain't a team sport, cupcake. any contradiction was of your own creation. i'm not the party crying rape, in need of clarification and now claiming that my actions were "not unreasonable". "we" my ass....LOL.
evan_essence
04-14-2006, 05:33 AM
nice try, but i haven't heard this much bullsh#t come out of one stripper's mouth since. well, since last week. seriously, using your logic, if i called a stripper "aggressive". would you "reasonably" conclude that she's pistol-whipping customers for their wallets? i don't think so.Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'd conclude something different about a stripper described as aggressive than one described as assertive. Therefore, if aggressive means both assertive and aggressive, I'd conclude that it would be clearer to use assertive if that's what I wanted to convey.
speaking of context, i don't recall mentioning any twisting of arms, the holding of a gun to a neck stump, the negative reaction of the stripper, etc. any of which would indicate that forceable action was taking place. hell, i even told you they accept the money. Well, yeah, that was my point. You don't mention those things because they're not taking place, but instead you use a word like aggressive, which bolsters your image, as opposed to using assertive or specifying consent, which would reveal more of the reality.
now, it's supposed to be my fault that you cried wolf...oops..rape, playing it like the feminist version of the race card. Oh, get over your paranoid self. You're either deliberately moving the target, which you infamously do so often when you're losing the argument, or your obsession with seeing feminist plots everywhere has made you forget the original point of the observation. I didn't cry rape; I cried false bravado.
frankly, you leapt to this "not unreasonable" conclusion all on your own. sorry, but that's not my problem.Communicating clearly is not your problem? Cool. I'll try to be your translator then, whenever possible.
lastly, if consider a customer grabbing and spreading a paid stripper's asscheeks to be a forceable action. you must be smoking some pretty powerful stuff. obviously, you're so high. you must be under the impression that i go to air sc or something.I'm under the impression that you don't want to say the word consensual too loudly because someone might hear you and think you a big softie PL.
how magnanimous of you to bestow me with your approval. why, i live for it.Oh, now. You're just saying that to get me to say "Bite me, Punky" as my response. I'm saving that for a really infuriating exchange.
oh joy, more approval. why, this must be my lucky day. seriously, what's this "we" sh#t?I'm sorry, I should have said since *you* clarified that you meant assertive when you used the more ambiguous aggressive.
this ain't a team sport, cupcake. any contradiction was of your own creation. i'm not the party crying rape, in need of clarification and now claiming that my actions were "not unreasonable". "we" my ass....LOL.Oh, stop being such a "cry rape" baby. Heck, I thought you liked it when one of us cock grinders pinned you down. Truth is, having to specify you have consent makes you cranky.
-Ev
SportsWriter2
04-14-2006, 07:07 AM
Truth is, having to specify you have consent makes you cranky.
Consent is so unpunk. No street cred whatsoever.
Jenny
04-14-2006, 07:15 AM
The only time in the world that people are going to ride a guy for NOT unconsensually biting a woman in the ass.
mr_punk
04-14-2006, 12:13 PM
You don't mention those things because they're not taking place, but instead you use a word like aggressive, which bolsters your image, as opposed to using assertive or specifying consent, which would reveal more of the reality.LOL..oh, i see. now, it's all about my "image". funny, i thought this was all about you busting my chops.
Communicating clearly is not your problem?no, but choosing a more pleasing word for your ears isn't my problem.
I'm under the impression that you don't want to say the word consensual too loudly because someone might hear you and think you a big softie PL.LOL...so, now i'm supposed to say it to prove otherwise and please you at the same time. no thanks. it's a typical, but effective female tactic. first, they soften the guy up by relentlessly busting his chops. then they'll offer him a moment of peace, but only if he complies with their demands. usually, the guy cracks like an soft boiled egg.
I'm sorry, I should have said since *you* clarified that you meant assertive when you used the more ambiguous aggressive.of course, it's another typical tactic. i hate it when women pull that "we" crap. for example, they'll say, "we have to fix this problem.". which invariably means that a man is going to end up fixing it. sigh...why can't you broads just say so in this first place?
Oh, stop being such a "cry rape" baby. Heck, I thought you liked it when one of us cock grinders pinned you down. Truth is, having to specify you have consent makes you cranky.nah, that doesn't make me cranky, but i'll tell you what will. sometimes, a woman breaks a man's balls because he deserves it. OTOH, sometimes a woman will do it simply because she can. in the case of the former, i probably had it coming. in the case of the latter, i never let woman get away with it. this qualifies as a case of the latter.
evan_essence
04-14-2006, 09:30 PM
LOL..oh, i see. now, it's all about my "image". funny, i thought this was all about you busting my chops. Yes, busting your chops over your image. Sheesh.
no, but choosing a more pleasing word for your ears isn't my problem.I'm frequently more pleased with specificity than ambiguity. But go ahead and be contrarian and pretend like it's about esthetics.
LOL...so, now i'm supposed to say it to prove otherwise and please you at the same time. no thanks. it's a typical, but effective female tactic. first, they soften the guy up by relentlessly busting his chops. then they'll offer him a moment of peace, but only if he complies with their demands. usually, the guy cracks like an soft boiled egg.As opposed to a typical, but effective male tactic. First, they pretend to not know what the girl's talking about, then they lash out that they're being misunderstood, and then they'll offer her an opportunity to change the subject if she agrees she's pre-menstrual. Usually, the girl folds like an outbluffed newbie at the TV table of a World Poker Tour event.
of course, it's another typical tactic. i hate it when women pull that "we" crap. for example, they'll say, "we have to fix this problem.". which invariably means that a man is going to end up fixing it. sigh...why can't you broads just say so in this first place?Because we know you're not, in fact, going to do anything but shrug it off unless we interject ourselves into it.
nah, that doesn't make me cranky, but i'll tell you what will. sometimes, a woman breaks a man's balls because he deserves it. OTOH, sometimes a woman will do it simply because she can. in the case of the former, i probably had it coming. in the case of the latter, i never let woman get away with it. this qualifies as a case of the latter.Well, if I had to wait for you to deserve it under your measuring schtick, we might never converse, and what fun would that be?
-Ev