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PaigeDWinter
12-30-2005, 04:31 PM
I will when I'm done doin my sistah
Cheating on your mom with your sister again? Tsk. Do we need to re-re-resend you to Jerry Springer?
anabella
12-30-2005, 04:49 PM
I think that you may be confusing cause and effect. Those women who are more liberal and therefore more likely to sleep with someone they haven't known for very long, are also probably more willing to do something "different" like get a tattoo. It doesn't mean that having the tattoo indicates that they are easy, as many women who get them are liberal in the body modification sense, but not the sleeping around sense.
This holds true for your correlation with income and status as well. If a woman or man is more conservative, they might be more motivated to have a conservative career which gives them status. Conservative characters are probably less likely to become graphic designers or bar owners, positions which could potentially earn good money but without as much status as doctor or lawyer.
I have two tattoos, both on my back, a large tribal design across the top of my back, and a Keith Haring character on my lower back (and no one ever knows what it is, and thinks it's someone bent over getting it in the butt, haha). Guys have tended to find them intriguing. When I see a man or woman with a tattoo I assume that they are free thinking and willing to do what they want, not always follow the leader. I guess it depends on the tattoo.
PaigeDWinter
12-30-2005, 05:12 PM
Keith Haring = love. :D
FemtasticEssence
12-30-2005, 08:05 PM
Yay body art! ;D
mark45y
12-30-2005, 10:08 PM
Dear Soybean girl,
My stand on tattoos.
Personally I like tattoos.
My last wife had tattoos and the last three women I was involved with had tattoos. One having some very extensive work.
I once met a woman in Seattle who had tattoos over 80% of her body. Having sex with her was like going to the movies at the same time.
Wife number three after she stopped stripping got an important job as a contract administrator with a large building contractor and she had to negotiate contracts for large amounts of money. She wore a oversize watch to cover up the tattoo on her wrist and she was always embarrassed about it.
Wife number two worked for a high profile plastic surgeon. She did the dermabrasion and laser stuff for him. She would tell me stories every day about people, rock stars and sports figures and politicians getting tattoos removed.
Personally I think the tattoo craze as a fashion statement has peaked and is on the downward trend but I am no expert.
I have four daughters none of whom has a visible tattoo. Three don’t seem to care one way or the other and one has a high profile political job and she thanked her mother for not allowing her to get a tattoo when she wanted one as a kid.
I think right wing conservative Americans are silly about tattoos and sex and religion and politics and about a lot of other stuff but it is a fact of life you have to deal with if you live in the States.
I live in a small town in a country that has a King and Queen. On the Queens birthday she was visiting my small town and I was asked by a friend of mine who works at the American Consulate if I wanted to join him in presenting a birthday tribute to the royal family (not because I am an important person but he needed some American bodies that had a suit and tie). It was a neat experience to actually meet members of the royal family who are all very nice people.
I brought my girlfriend who is not an American and she has a couple of tattoos one on her ankle.
In this country and in my GF’s mind the royal family have close to a God like status. When in the presence of the royals the women kneel down and kind of sit sideways, its hard to describe with out a picture but I spent a week looking for a dress for GF that covered the tattoo on her ankle when she knelt on the floor. I did check out the Queen and her daughter and did not see any tattoos although they are very common in this country.
I don’t think strippers do better with tattoos. I don’t think most men pick a girl for a lap dance based on her tattoos. I do but I think I am in the minority.
I hope the above clarifies my stand on tattoos and of course all of the above is simply my opinion and my experiences.
EroticAngel
12-30-2005, 11:16 PM
Now there's an interesting thought... if I got some of my tats removed, maybe I could get "an important job." If I got even more removed, I bet I could even become a Republican. Heck, I might as well just get rid of them all, and then I could be a virgin again...
(No offense intended to Mark45y or anyone else here.)
(Significant offense intended to the all the conservative a**holes out there who think they have a right to judge me based on my clothes, my hairstyles, my piercings -- or my tattoos.)
Susan-Va
12-30-2005, 11:54 PM
I judge people on whether they are there when I need them. Whether they come through even when every one says I am crap. I judge them on if they really know me
All I am saying is the rest of America judges people with Tattoos as trashy.
I met a man that was totally not my type, covered in tattoos and a tattoo artist at that. At first I couldn't stand him, seven years later...... been married six years. He, and all his heavily tattooed friends that I previously wouldn't give the time of day to, are some of the best people I have ever met.
If I had judged him by his appearance I would have missed out on so much. After only four months of dating he helped my mother and I with my father while he was in hospice and he and his trashy friends carried his casket to the grave. My conservative, catholic mother was honored to have such caring and loving men do this for her.
Since being with him I have opened my eyes, ears and heart to many different people from all walks of life. He and his "family" of friends have taught me not to judge people by their appearance. These people are there for me and my family. If they didn't have tattoos I wouldn't care, they'd be there for me and I for them, no matter what.
Sorry if I'm rambling on and on, I just kinda take this to heart.
My husband has tattooed people from all walks of life. Doctors, lawyers. corperate CEOS to students, construction workers and of course wonderful stippers! What all these people have in common is they have found a way to express themselves or an important moment or event on their body. Some visible, some hidden. The only difference between them is that some are more colorful than others.
Djoser
12-31-2005, 08:14 AM
Ok will all the Egyptians stand up. Raise your hands now.
You just got out of graduate school with your MBA and you are on your way to becoming a mover and shaker on Wall Street or some other street.
Paige I enjoyed reading the history of Tattoos but because a thing is valued in one culture does not make it valued in another culture.
(from a later post)...in polite society
I am having trouble judging whether or not you are qualified to judge what the term "polite society" connotes.
For instance, the comment about Egyptians.
If we were laughing and toasting Egyptians at the same table in a club, I would laugh with you and toast with great enthusiasm, and probably like you all the more--though we might disagree on some subjects.
If this was meant as some sort of derisive put-down, you are fucking with the wrong guy...
Not to mention some intelligent and cultured women who also happen to be Egyptophiles.
An advanced culture would presumeably demonstrate an appreciation for forms of artistic expression to be found in other cultures--entirely aside from whether these forms of expression might signify the bearers will be willing to suck dick at the drop of a hat.
The university I went to was filled with some of the most brilliant people in the world--and so very many of them were visually freakish in their appearance as to make walking across campus a most fascinating experience.
True, a Wall Street power broker with his head up his ass might judge them harshly--but it would be his loss.
"Culture" implicitly requires education, one of the primary purposes of which is to avoid judgements made out of ignorance.
Jay Zeno
12-31-2005, 08:31 AM
From an unrelated posting on Blue:
I don’t live in the United States anymore. I couldn’t handle the duplicity. I am convinced an American man has only two choices leave or become sedated. I don’t feel sorry for them. It is their own fault.
It's a common mistake to take one's personal experiences and apply them as a judgment to all of society. It happens all the time on this forum, in fact.
I am not sedated. I have been to a number of different places - Europe, Asia, the Southern Hemisphere - and I find that duplicity (and kindness) is a universal human trait. It just depends on the people you choose to associate with and the bias that you bring to your observations.
To bring this posting back to the theme, earlier in this thread:
All I am saying is the rest of America judges people with Tattoos as trashy.
May I suggest that if you don't live here, and if you view America as "sedated," you are not the best one to judge what American people think (and they think many different things about almost everything, contrary to the idea of being "sedated").
xbloodydewdropx
12-31-2005, 11:19 AM
i've got 10 tats....some really small, and some medium sized. they go with my gothic look, and people often say they look very nice. of course i probably did miss out on some money from those customers who prefer virgin skin, but i still made enough in my dancing days to be happy with it. i love my tats, no question :)
Jenny
12-31-2005, 11:28 AM
There is something "special" now about a girl who doesn't have tattoos, just because every stripper has one. (Really practically everyone between 17 and 35 has one). NOT having a tattoo is the new mode of self expression.
Me, I have one tattoo (shoulderblade) in a design representation that nobody can ever identify (except one guy, and I loved him. Rock on guys who take courses in women's studies!) My dad thinks it looks like two stylized turtles standing back to back. (Now if my dad is on here he is going to completely know who I am. If he is - hi Dad!). I also have a nose ring. Not a stud - a ring.
Tattoos are tacky and low class. It is one of the thing that separates the classes even when the other boundaries are blurred. Although it is a tribute to how easily women succumb to pop culture. I would think low class guys or guys looking for a low class experience would love them. I wouldn’t cover them up. After all more people are looking for trashy women than debutants in strip clubs. I have always had better success with women with a tattoo just above the ass crack in the middle of the back. A sure score. Easy whatever. But I love em.
Yet, nobody has ever assumed that I am low class based on that (I think some might assume it based on the fact that I do, after all, let men touch me for money). I'm not going to give you my resume, but people actually assume (I flatter myself correctly) that I am bright and articulate and from good background (although I did grow up poor - is that what you mean by low class? Having parents who actually have sacrifice for you, and work hard? If that is the case, then yes I am low class, and if my tattoo is a badge of that I will wear them with pride). And dahling, trust me - you would not get anywhere near me (or, I suspect most of the other women here) unless we were in the mood for slumming.
itsbecca
12-31-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't think it's particularly smart, because I know that a few decades down the road, I have much different tastes than I did when I was 20. The artwork I'd choose at 20 is not the artwork I'd choose now. But people who are in their early 20s tell me, no, this is the design that I will like forever. Well, OK then. Go right ahead. It's your body.
I don't see it as "individual" because you're buying the artwork from a tattoo artist who may well put the same design on someone else tomorrow. I also don't see it as "individual" because it's going to remain the same no matter how your individuality changes. And if the majority has tattoos, how really individual is it? (I, too, am a nonconformist. See? I'm wearing the uniform.)
While you seem very open-minded about the topic, I'd have to disagree with the last point. I only have two tattoo's (though more are in the sidelines till I have the cash to pay for them, they admitably aren't my highest priority). One was hand drawn by my tatoo artist and he would never sell that. It's a fairly standard point of integrity that they won't do this tattoo for someone else. On the off chance that someone else does come asking for this idea, he would draw it anew and both would remain unique. Personally, I don't know why anyone would intrust their body to someone who doesn't follow similar standards of respect.
The same tattoo was choosen by me because it was representative of my childhood. That's exactly how I can explain the whole "Well what will you think of it in 20 years?" question. It doesn't have to be an idea I will agree with, but it will always mean something to me, because at the least it's a peice of my past and it has a story that I can always remember when I look at it.
(For dicussion purposes, my second tattoo was not original artwork, I brought it in; although, my artist told me he had never seen it before and was always happy when he got to work on something unique. If I did find someone who had it as well I wouldn't be annoyed, but rather would love to spark some conversation with them! Instant connection!)
MishaBliss
12-31-2005, 03:46 PM
When i was younger (and indulging in my wild side a little too much) i got a tattoo which i have since come to hate, not only because it has lost meaning but because it was just plain ugly. I spent a couple of thousand dollars in trying to get it removed, which was futile. I have only just gotten it covered a couple of weeks ago with a design which i like and of which i'm damn sure i'll like forever. It took me 2 years to decide on it. It has meaning, but timeless meaning. It was done by a top artist and cost me good $.
I think that one should be absolutely certain on the design, be mindful that it will grow old with you and speaking from experience; F**k the meaning of a tattoo, if its ugly its ugly.
Why not wear great art tho?
Djoser
01-02-2006, 11:15 AM
For that matter it might be a mistake to simply dismiss out of hand anything that comes from a book--though I am far from impressed with the majority of what I have seen in books (and out of them onto so many Daytona locals).
A really good design from a book, placed well, would still impress me (and no doubt already has), even if there are a lot of other people out there with the same thing somewhere on their bodies.
lgrant98001
01-02-2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Jay Zeno
I don't think it's particularly smart, because I know that a few decades down the road, I have much different tastes than I did when I was 20. The artwork I'd choose at 20 is not the artwork I'd choose now.
I used to agree, thinking that when people were 50 they wouldn't like the tattoos they had chosen at age 20. I think part of the problem was the I was expecting them to grow up to be like the 50-year-olds that were around when I was 20. Now that I am in my 50s, I see that 50-year-olds are much different from when my father was 50.
And when I started talking to people with tattoos, I found that many of them had gotten tattoos to mark special occasions (such as the woman I met who got a tattoo in honor of each of her three children), and would cherish them all their lives.
I got my own tattoo five years ago to comemmorate the one-year anniversary of my committment ceremony with my partner. We plan to be together for the rest of our lives. But even if, God forbid, our relationship went South someday, I would still cherish that reminder of how she turned my life around.
Be well...
lynn
Emiliana
01-02-2006, 02:09 PM
I have a feeling that in the near future, due to the increase in tattooed people, that it will eventually come down to who has good tattoos and bad tattoos. By good I mean nice color, placement, design etc.
You can always tell the difference between someone that was impulsive and didn't save enough money for a good tattoo by a good artist or someone that thinks a tribal armband actually looks good(god forbid) and someone that takes their body and their decoration seriously.
This may sound elitist but I don't really care...kudos if you really love your tribal backpiece or your Japanese characters but I'm just saying....well you know exactly what I'm saying.
One day down the road it may be inevitable that it is no longer tatttooed vs. non-tattooed but well-done vs. badly done flash.
And seriously people...If you can't manage to get a good one....be it money or connections or whatever....just WAIT. You have your whole life to get it...it will be there your whole life and you really do get what you pay for.
Call me an elitist bitch if you care to and feel free to defend your choices as I'm sure you do regularly and I'm sorry that I don't know the life-changing, deep and incredibly symbolic meaning behind that piece of flash on your lower back...this is all just my theory. It's not meant to be offensive...if it did offend you..well stop and think why.
Emiliana
01-02-2006, 02:11 PM
I think that one should be absolutely certain on the design, be mindful that it will grow old with you and speaking from experience; F**k the meaning of a tattoo, if its ugly its ugly.
Why not wear great art tho?
Great point.
mortalman
01-02-2006, 02:33 PM
Hi, I'm new to Stripper Web but I have been dancing for a few years now. I recently went from having no tattoos, to being the proud owner of some extensive new body art. I have been covering it up with makeup for work, but it never turns our looking covered. Luckily, the club that I work in doesn't require us to cover our tattoos, I just feel that since it's pretty big it may be a turnoff to some of the customers. Does anyone have any advice? Either for how to cover it up, or how to get over the fact that everyone can see it?
Well, to answer you questions
If they are on your arms: Try some long gloves or long sleeve tops
On your back: An outfit like a vest that you can open in the front
your legs: some opaque stockings
as to how to get over everyone seeing it, you might just have to go with others advice and just know that some will like it and some won't
Personally, I tend to like tattoos on dancers and other women but in specific places.
Like: tend to like smaller pieces
Lower back, back of neck under the hair, small ones on the shoulder, upper arm (small bands aound or inside the bicep), belly button area, ankles
Don't like:
sleeves, anything on the hands or feet, huge back pieces, stuff on the upper thighs, boob tattoos, tattoos in the coochie area, on the face. I do tend to avoid dancers with these kind of tattoos but there are always exceptions. ;)
All of my favorite dancers have had at least one tattoo.
I'm kind of an older dude so that cancels that sterotype.
And the whole classy/unclassy debate is rediculous, I've met people from all walks of life with and without tattoos who were scum. ;D I've never pre-judged anyone based on their tattoo with the exception of swastika tattoos. :O
mollyzmoon
01-02-2006, 03:52 PM
I agree that tattoo free dancers are now considered more unique (as Jenny mentioned). I've gotten more than a few customers say "oh and no tattoos! great!" or something similar, which is funny because I have a tattoo. I point it out and they say "oh, but that's so small it doesn't count". Whatever. It's a Chinese symbol, but I got my cousin from Hong Kong to design it. It's fairly unique, insofar as the artist who did it for me had never seen anything like it. But it is so small that's it practically hidden by my thong. Bigger than a mole if nothing else, but still, a tattoo nonetheless!
However, there is a dancer at my club who has an entire side of her body decorated by a very elaborate, award winning tattoo design. She gets requested sometimes as 'the girl with that awsome lady tattooed on her side'.
It's a matter of taste, but it does seem that everyone expects strippers to have tattoos.
Susan Wayward
01-02-2006, 04:45 PM
I don't have any and get comments sometimes, depending on where I am. My only thought on the matter is to stay away from having the names of boyfriends/husbands/children tattooed on you in prominent places. Because that is tacky.
However, depending on what happens on Wednesday, I am considering one of these (http://zachnelligan.com/images/zncom_tattoo_longhorn.jpg) albeit in a more discreet location and in a lovely burnt orange.
and that would be tacky too . . .
mortalman
01-02-2006, 05:01 PM
My only thought on the matter is to stay away from having the names of boyfriends/husbands/children tattooed on you in prominent places. Because that is tacky.
Good point Susan
I once got a dance from a girl who had the word
Chuey
tatooed on her lower back.
So I was curious and I asked "Who's Chuey?"
She proceeded to tell me about her husband in prison ... :O
Kinda ruined the mood.
Tattoos are tacky and low class. It is one of the thing that separates the classes even when the other boundaries are blurred. Although it is a tribute to how easily women succumb to pop culture. I would think low class guys or guys looking for a low class experience would love them. I wouldn’t cover them up. After all more people are looking for trashy women than debutants in strip clubs. I have always had better success with women with a tattoo just above the ass crack in the middle of the back. A sure score. Easy whatever. But I love em.
That simply put is amusing. The most amazing man I have ever met has extensive ink.. it is incredible and he is always getting stopped for people to admire his body artwork. He says he has his art because no one can ever take that away from him. Things and possessions may come and go but his art will stay with him forever.
This man also is a former marine and was an engineer at nineteen. Tacky? No, Low class.. Not in the least and personally I would pay money to see you say that to someone like him or even himself up close and personal.
I have plans on getting ink myself. Just not right now - as that to me is considered a luxury and something that I just can not afford to do at this moment.
I've met all people from all walks of life and the only tacky, low class, and small minded people are individuals like yourself that make snap decisions and judgments about people because of what you have seen on TV or because of what you -think- you know.
Tacky? Low class.. try looking in the mirror.
ackman98
01-02-2006, 11:26 PM
Embrace the tats. Screw what everyone thinks. It is possible that you may loose the interest of a few men, but you know what? Some guys are attraced to girls with ink , so you just may gain a few.
evan_essence
01-03-2006, 10:37 AM
I think my money would be half what it is without it. It's not merely a placebo affect in my mind that guys are put under a spell by it. It's a physical expression of what's spiritually inside, and it gives me self confidence I wouldn't otherwise have whenever I'm au naturel. Granted, if a guy's looking for the girl next door type, he's not going to pick me because of what I jokingly refer to as my "racing stripe." But that's fine; my attitude in the club is not that of the girl next door. Plus my partner is turned on by it. And what do you know, when I'm fully clothed, no one knows. I can be a respectable citizen in the minds of those who judge by that. Funny how that works.
-Ev
soybeangirl
01-03-2006, 10:48 AM
I like my tatoos. I don't give a shit about people who don't like my tattoos.
I still make my money and laugh all the way to the bank.
Bottom line.
SportsWriter2
01-03-2006, 12:45 PM
Commercial parlor tattoos and hepatitis C:
:O
itsbecca
01-03-2006, 04:53 PM
Commercial parlor tattoos and hepatitis C:
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2001/04/02/daily19.html :O
That's why you do research and ask questions about the cleanliness of your tattoo artist and his tools! You don't get Hepetitis just from having a tattoo, it is contracted through unsterilized needles, or shared ink. That's why you need an artist who sterilizes equipment between uses, wears gloves (and changes gloves if he ever touches himself or any object), uses fresh needles and fresh ink EVERY TIME. There's no excuse to settle for anything less.
Blade
01-05-2006, 08:15 AM
Ok will all the Egyptians stand up. Raise your hands now. All of you people can get tattoos.
You live in America. The dominant culture thinks tattoos are tacky, trashy or whatever words you would like to choose.
You just got out of graduate school with your MBA and you are on your way to becoming a mover and shaker on Wall Street or some other street.
You are not a rock star.
Your future wife has two choices. Loose the tattoo on her chest or find another fiancé.
I am not saying tattoos are bad they may even be a status symbol in the trailer park.
They are not however a good idea on Park Avenue.
Paige I enjoyed reading the history of Tattoos but because a thing is valued in one culture does not make it valued in another culture.
In a lot of the world they don’t use toilet paper. They wipe their butts with their left hand.
Following your reasoning it would be fine not to use toilet paper in America.
And to Soybean girl “Would you like to be judged based on your own personal taste and style? Didn't think so”
Soybean girl what do you think people judge me by? My impressions that I have about me being a wonderful person that are stored in my brain? Of course people judge me on my personal taste and style. People have judged me on my personal taste and style all of my life. When I married a stripper from the peek a boo lounge with tattoos on her arms a number of my so called friends stopped asking me to social functions. So be it, I don’t really give a shit.
I judge people on whether they are there when I need them. Whether they come through even when every one says I am crap. I judge them on if they really know me
All I am saying is the rest of America judges people with Tattoos as trashy.
The fact that all of the models that do Tampa Bukkake or the Whoisnext thing have a tramp stamp is just a coincidence.
If you can handle the tramp stamp impression get one but don’t bitch about being stereotyped as a tramp.
Before I read more...I figure a small quote will do: The only difference between tattooed people and non-tattooed people is tattooed people don't care if you're tattooed
itsbecca
01-05-2006, 09:19 PM
Before I read more...I figure a small quote will do: The only difference between tattooed people and non-tattooed people is tattooed people don't care if you're tattooed
It's tattoo time!!
*love*
ga_dancer05
01-06-2006, 01:38 AM
I have a tattoo on my shoulder (you can see it in my avatar pic) and I don't think it affects what my custys think of me or whatever. I have even gotten compliments and conversation starters from it. I've also never tried to cover it up. I don't think tattoos are that big of a deal and shouldn't turn off a custy from u just because you have a tattoo.
Kennedy_Viewpoint
01-09-2006, 07:11 AM
}:D be proud of your body art. use it to entice the customer. i have one tat, but 7 piercings. and they love to see all the modifications. it will ultimatly make you more tips espically with that cheaper young crowed. they cant help it it makes em think your a bad girl and they love to fantisize about that!
Sierra30
09-03-2007, 11:33 AM
I have two tattoos ... and i have never bothered to cover em up...im very proud of my body art, and dont really give a shit if people dont like it. I have a pentagram on the back of my neck which gets some people going but ya know what...if your too good a christian do deal with a pagan what the hell are you doing in a strip club?
Ooh...sorry...a bit of a rant there...
OMG i soo agree...I have a tattoo that has the pentacle in it but its kinda covered up by the goddess symbol...kind of intricate and hard to explain without a picture...anyway, i had this one guy say to me "ISNT that a SATAN star?!" (with a REAL sarcastic smirk and tone in his voice) I said "Nooooo, its NOT you moron, its a PAGAN pentacle, do you NOT see "an it harm none do as ye wilt' UNDER it!?" he just looked at me like i was the BIGGEST bitch on the planet but if youre gonna try to start shit with me about my tattoos, MOVE ON, i dont have time for custies like that!!! and if you dont like tattoos, dont talk to me. period. PLENTY of custies DO like them because they ALL, EVERY SINGLE one of my tattoos have a deep personal meaning...GAH, i hate people like that!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITgirl
09-03-2007, 12:07 PM
I have a couple very unique tattoos in bright colored ink, so I generally cover them w dermablend while working. I also wear stockings since they are on my legs, and that is enough of a distraction that they go unnoticed, even w/out makeup.
The only thing w dermablend is that you have to do full prep before you apply it, and then let it set before putting your clothes on, or it will wear off. It can be a pain, but you get used to it.
Helle
09-03-2007, 11:25 PM
Haven't read the forum all the way through but mark asked how many dentists/doctors have tattoos...
...A lot. I'm a dental hygenist and my arm is sleeved. As are many of the people I work with, INCLUDING dentists and dental surgeons. We wear long sleeve shirts under our scrubs to cover them. At OSU hospital, nurses and doctors are not required to cover tattoos.
I think tattoos are pretty quid pro qou now. I wouldn't say they define who is upper class and lower class because, well, almost every has them now.
There are going to be a hell of a lot of old tattooed people at my retirement home, should I get to that age.
I base a persons classiness on their behaviour. We have so many girls at my club who have no tattoos yet walk around chewing gum, wearing payless shoes, offering OTC activity for like 20 dollars, scream at the DJ from the club... I make more dances because they do these things and I carry myself well--Not because I took a few hours out of my life to inject ink under my skin.
This is like the 50's.60's crap of girls bein sluts who wore mini skirts and men being druggies who wore hair over their ears. It's all relative, man.
Sauske
09-04-2007, 12:29 PM
derma blend?
Pretty_Penny
09-04-2007, 12:52 PM
You are not a rock star.
shows what you know
Scarlett.Oz
09-22-2007, 06:49 PM
Seems like this one is a touchy subject everytime, but just for the record......
I am a health professional and...... I have tattoo's, quite visibly all down one arm, forearm and wrist.
In a hospital, unless you are wearing scrubs, it is a health and safety issue to wear long sleeves, as in, you can't (In OZ anyways). I have never had a detrimental comment from any patient (all kindsa people in hostibals) or in a SC.
I love my tattoo's and i love tattoo's on other women, and men, that's just me, mind you, I wouldn't knock someone back because they didn't have tattoo's.
Mind you, I do know a girl (let's just say i 'tolerate' her for ease of familial politics) who has 'cunts' tattooed accross her back, with 2 kids just learning to read? Uh uh, now that's trashy.
XXX S
tattoogoddess
09-22-2007, 08:34 PM
I find what mark is saying pritty shitty. I am covered in tattoo's and it people like him that make this world shitty. Who fucking cares if some girl has a "tramp stamp" who are you to judge? Great thing about being a human being. We own our bodys and can choose what we want to do with them and do to them ( well for the most point) With out looking at stats i bet that over 50% of the US has tattoos so really it is the norm now. People just need to deal with it.
Remember the old saying "don't judge a book by it's cover"? how do you know these people are trashy and are low class? Have you sat down and had dinner with them? If you saw me in the store and i had pj's on and all my tats showing would that make me low class? No. I just did not feel like getting dressed up to go pick up a gallon of milk. Im not lower class. I live in a $320,00O that i own and im only 22! I dont live in a trailer or rent a house for $200 a month and cook meth in the basment. So before you judge know the person they might not be who you think they are.
and girl with a tramp stamp easy? Hell ever think they are married and could be a hard core christian? I know such a girl and she is far from easy
tattoogoddess
09-22-2007, 08:48 PM
Found some intresting stuff
-In 622 A. D., an envoy of China recorded the custom of Japanese tattooing in Zuisho. There is a section, "Ryukyu kokuden" in it, and the practice of tattooing among the Ryukyu women is described. The Ryukyu islands are today in Okinawa prefecture, the southern most part of Japan. When it was an independent country it was threatened by the rule of China and Japan.
- was not until the eighth century that the first Japanese printed books appeared. The Kojiki (712 A. D.) mentions that there are two types of tattoos. One is a mark of distinction on a man of very high status, and the other is to identify criminals (McCallum, 1988). Later, the Chronicles of Japan, the Nihonshoki, was complied in 720 A.D. According to the Nihonshoki, a person named Azumi no Murajihamako was tattooed as punishment for treason. This was an example of the punitive application of tattooing. McCallum (1988) summarizes the practice of Japanese tattooing during the Kofun period. In the early Kofun period, the tattoo persisted as a socially acceptable practice. However, it seems to have acquired negative associations, perhaps from the middle of the period (McCallum, 1988).
-Iizawa (1973) and Tamabayashi (1956) report that the custom of tattooing is also found among samurai warriors in the sixteenth century. In certain areas, the samurai had tattoos for identification.
Soldiers wore armor and had other identifying belongings, of course, but scavengers often stripped dead bodies on a battlefield , which made identification difficult. Tattoos offered certain identification
-Ainu girls were first tattooed when they were 10 to 13 years old. Some women started when they were 5 or 6 years old. Their tattoos were completed by the time they reached marriageable age. The patterns of the Ainu tattoos are related to their tribal clothing.
Tosabayashi (1948) presents the study on the patterns of the Ainu tattoo in detail. He mentions that the patterns of the tattoos are similar to the chastity belt that the Ainu women wore, and that Ainu tattoos symbolize virtue or purity. The Ainu tattoo is also used for protection from the atrocities committed by other tribes.
-The Ryukyu tattoos, on the other hand, were done on only the back of the hands, including the fingers, the wrists and the knuckles. There are no examples of facial tattoo (Glacken, 1955). Tattooing is not practiced in every Ryukyu island. In some parts, both men and women got tattooed, but in others, only women had tattoos. In other parts of Ryukyu, no one was tattooed. The age at which tattooing began was different, depending on the areas of the Ryukyu islands or generation (Yoshioka, 1996). The Ryukyu tattooing symbolized religious beliefs, sexual maturity, indication of marriage, body adornment, distinction of sex, and tribal customs. Glacken (1955) reports that the purpose of the Ryukyu women's tattooing was to prevent being carried off to brothels in Japan. Kidnappings were frequent occurrences in the Ryukyu history and the Ryukyu people knew that the Japanese disliked tattooed women (Haring, 1969).
tattoogoddess
09-22-2007, 08:48 PM
-Tamabayashi (1956) describes one of the old patterns of irebokuro: a man and a woman hold their hands together, and get a mole-like tattoo on each hand where the tip of the thumb reached. Irebokuro was a reminder for lovers, and showed a vow of eternal love. It is said that some yujos wore tattoos of their lover's name and the Japanese character for life (inochi). It symbolized the strength of their pledge of love. Tamabayashi also mentions irebokuro in homosexuality between priests and young boys. These tattoos were also called kishobori, the vow tattoo. The yujos were likely to choose to be tattooed on the arm, especially the inside of the arm and near the armpit, not the forearm (Tamabayashi, 1956). Their tattoos probably meant secret affairs, forbidden love or personal desires. The purpose of the yujo's tattoos was one of serious promise, or nuptial proof, or eternal love, and the pledge of the heart and soul towards sincere love (Tamabayashi, 1956:24). For others, the irebokuro was perhaps just a tool to please and keep their customers, and thus to succeed as a highest ranked courtesan.
-The geishas and the yujos made up strange customs to keep their clients. Several authors (Fujimoto; 1915, Tamabayashi; 1956, Seigle; 1993, Van Gulik; 1982) cite examples of the geisha's behavior.
1. A woman gave a written pledge to her lover.
2. She tattooed the lover's name in her arm.
3. She cut her hair.
4. She cut her little finger.
5. She tore off the nail of one of her fingers.
6. She stabbed her elbow or thigh (Fujimoto, 1915: 129).
In the literature of the Edo period, the practice of the pledge letter, tattooing, finger-cutting, hair-cutting, nail-tearing are often described (Seigle; 1993, Tamabayashi; 1956, Van Gulik; 1982). The purpose of the pledge letter was to get a few drops of blood from both the man and the woman (Seigle, 1993). Tattooing was similar to the pledge letter. Many yujos and geishas tattooed themselves to please their customers.
-Ironically, the prohibition of tattooing applied only to the Japanese, not to foreign people. Many visitors from overseas were impressed by Japanese tattoo designs. Sailors, from the highest to the lowest ranks, got tattooed when they arrived in Japanese ports. Burchett (1958) tells about meeting one Japanese tattoo master, Hori Chyo in the Meiji era. According to Burchett (1958), Hori Chyo had tattooed many British aristocrats, including the Duke of Clarence, the Duke of York (later, King George V), and the Czarevitch of Russia (later, Czar Nicholas II). As a result, Japanese tattoos were exported to oversea countries, and gained a reputation outside of Japan. Nakano (199?) cites newspaper articles regarding popularity of Japanese tattoos in the West.
zxcire
09-22-2007, 08:52 PM
Well don't worry too much about Mark...he said that 2 years ago and doesn't even post here anymore.
Crow2
09-22-2007, 09:29 PM
A throwback to the 50? My gosh that’s harsh.
I said I liked tattoos.
I also took two hookers to the senior prom.
I like strippers and hookers and trashy women and I have since I was a kid.
One of the reasons I like tattoos so much is you can pick out a trashy women in the grocery store.
I would assume having a tattoo does not automatically make one a woman trashy.
Buddhist monks have tons of tattoos and they are neither trashy or women.
But when shopping for cereal and frozen pizza if I happen upon a woman wearing a see through top with no bra, ten piercings, a short leather skirt with chains and 7 inch heels with too much make up and a bunch of tattoos I know who to ask out for lunch.
What's harsh is your judgement - who are you, the moral majority?
I don't have any ink personally, thats my choice.
ALL of the people that I know that do have ink are neither trashy nor low class.
I admire the effort and pain it takes to get something that no one can ever take way from them. I might have some one day nd that too is my choice.
So, that makes me trashy and low class? Riiiiiiight.
Now I know who to turn down for that "lunch"