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sammi
10-20-2007, 01:42 PM
My take on black guys is that they frequently have darker skin then white guys.


That is all.


I know the OP didn't mean any harm when she made her thread but honestly!

What did you expect?? That each one of us was going to come in here with our "I dated a Black guy once..." or "My cousin married a Black guy..." stories and prove what?? What is that indicative of? nothing! I've had excellent experiences with Black men and really really shitty experiences with Black men...not because they were Black...but because they were MEN.

let me pose this hypothetical: What if you made this thread, and EVERYBODY that responded to it said that they had horrible experiences with Black men...what would you have done?

give me a break. it's 2007...wake up.

hearts
10-20-2007, 01:54 PM
I have a crush on a black guy...his lips are...so....so...*swoon*.

francescadubois
10-20-2007, 07:45 PM
I think that judgment is made on the individual. Being black doesn't put one in a category to be judged against, although black people as a whole haven't made it easy on themselves, as far as stereotypes and judgments go.

Honestly, because of the fact that I know more black people who are unsavory, I would be leary, but the few I have known that are mostly good will allow for any black person the chance to prove themselves in my mind.

/:O :O :-\ :(

Embyr
10-20-2007, 09:31 PM
i take on black guys. ;D :P

(this thread is honestly very very weird. i should start one called "your take on white guys???" and we can debate majority invisibility. k??)

francescadubois
10-20-2007, 09:33 PM
i should start one called "your take on white guys???" and we can debate majority invisibility. k??)

I love you. :D

sammi
10-20-2007, 10:45 PM
I think that judgment is made on the individual. Being black doesn't put one in a category to be judged against, although black people as a whole haven't made it easy on themselves, as far as stereotypes and judgments go.

Honestly, because of the fact that I know more black people who are unsavory, I would be leary, but the few I have known that are mostly good will allow for any black person the chance to prove themselves in my mind.

wow i let this one slip through the cracks...

are you joking. please say you are.

cameron_keys
10-21-2007, 08:14 AM
i take on black guys. ;D :P



LOL..me too...in fact there is video evidence playing this week on the Hustler channel!LOL!

stellaforstars
10-21-2007, 08:25 AM
Reading through this entire thread has made my soul die a little...

But congrats on the Hustler spot, Cam! Makes me wish I had cable!

Aelfu_Gifu
10-21-2007, 08:40 AM
I think you should date whoever you want and take 100% responsibility for your life.

What the OP seems to be asking here is: Which should I value more? My parents or the amusement of the "otherness" of dating outside my race?

Most intelligent black men are going to be tremendously pissed off at being dehumanized and turned into a mere theory. Just a warning.

Now, I'll just assume you had the highest intentions and are just attracted to black men. Lots of people are and within the spectrum of sexual attraction there's a lot of variation, blah blah blah. We could pick it apart that race is just a set of physiological traits or that this is some Spivakian bullcrap, but I don't think it'd get us anywhere. The bottom line is that you like black guys.

You ask for "a take." I think you're asking for a cultural norm on how "the blacks" treat women? I've never dated a guy who was really, truly an African American. I've dated a guy from a Caribbean family, and yes, their values were close to my own in a lot of ways. With dating that guy, he was nice and artistic and fun. We enjoyed each other's company. It simply didn't pan out because of our own expectations and beliefs on relationships, but we were 18 and 21. It was less of a racial/cultural issue.

The other black guy I dated was from Ghana, an engineering student. His accent was so heavy it made communication a strain, and he was SUPER FOCUSED on his career and school. I suspect he'll make a wonderful partner for someone who is also career-driven and either speaks his native tongue or doesn't put a high price on communication.

My parents weren't thrilled with my choices, but ultimately, my mother at least knew it was my life. I don't speak with my father anymore, but for very different reasons. You have to ask yourself if relationships as they are right now are hurting or helping you. If the primary strain on the relationship is that they don't want you dating "the blacks," then I really see it as a non-issue until you are in a serious relationship with someone who's black.

While I suspect most black men would be horrified at your attitude, not because it is bad, but because no one has been thought to think this way since 1978, I think you really need to wait and look on this from individual terms only. Getting someone to agree to an abstract idea like "being cool with our daughter dating the blacks," is a bit trickier than "being cool with our daughter dating Chad, that black guy who works as a project manager for a general contractor and is a hobbyist card player." See what I mean?

Corgan
10-21-2007, 11:53 PM
first let me say that i am not a racist person.

i do like black men just fine. unless they are a southern texas/lousiana black man.

it seems that every time a black man approaches me IN PUBLIC, they are very rude and crude. for example, today, i was at the grocery store looking at the milk, and kinda bobbing along to the music (dancing queen by abba) and i feel something behind me... i turn around, and this black man was grinding on me. wtf? i never met him before, i didn't know him from the club either. i just grabbed my milk and walked away, and i heard him talking to his friends and saying really nasty perverted things.

a white man has never done that to me. (in public, that i never met before etc)

i just prefer to not deal with gangbangers, and that is what the black men in my area seem to be, or think that they are. for god sake, a few months ago two black men killed each other over a fucking chain. a chain!

so my take is, if he looks like a gangbanger, i'm going to automatically associate him with the black men i deal with here in southeast texas. if he is a black man who is articulate and treats me like a lady, then he is aces in my book.

but to be treated like a peice of meat while looking for milk? i don't think so.

Bridgette
10-22-2007, 12:56 AM
i take on black guys. ;D :P Ahahaha!!! Me too ;D

Christany
10-22-2007, 02:32 AM
Personally skin color has never been an issue for me. I lean more towards a nice healthy complexion/texture vs. a shade.

Interracial dating, in my opinion just keeps becoming more common. One of the most beautiful relationships I've seen celebrity wise, is between Heidi Klum and Seal. Some people have found it odd that a supermodel could fall in love with a man who has burn scars on his face, and add to that fact their difference in race....
But yet, their relationship seems strong and loving. The other relationship I can think of off the top of my head was when the pop singer Jojo was dating Freddy the soccer player. I do not know their current status, but they were cute as a button.

Aelfu_Gifu
10-22-2007, 06:44 AM
first let me say that i am not a racist person.

i do like black men just fine. unless they are a southern texas/lousiana black man.

...

a white man has never done that to me. (in public, that i never met before etc)

i just prefer to not deal with gangbangers, and that is what the black men in my area seem to be, or think that they are. for god sake, a few months ago two black men killed each other over a fucking chain. a chain!

so my take is, if he looks like a gangbanger, i'm going to automatically associate him with the black men i deal with here in southeast texas. if he is a black man who is articulate and treats me like a lady, then he is aces in my book.

but to be treated like a peice of meat while looking for milk? i don't think so.


I completely get this. An engineering student from Ghana and a gangbanger from Texas are culturally and ethically very different people. I was explaining this to a friend last night: There are some cultural groups I just don't date. That doesn't make either of us bigots, but simply unique byproducts of our culture/subculture. (Arguably, you or I would say we just like being treated like equals. Heh.)

francescadubois
10-22-2007, 10:30 AM
first let me say that i am not a racist person.

i do like black men just fine. unless they are a southern texas/lousiana black man.

it seems that every time a black man approaches me IN PUBLIC, they are very rude and crude. for example, today, i was at the grocery store looking at the milk, and kinda bobbing along to the music (dancing queen by abba) and i feel something behind me... i turn around, and this black man was grinding on me. wtf? i never met him before, i didn't know him from the club either. i just grabbed my milk and walked away, and i heard him talking to his friends and saying really nasty perverted things.

a white man has never done that to me. (in public, that i never met before etc)

i just prefer to not deal with gangbangers, and that is what the black men in my area seem to be, or think that they are. for god sake, a few months ago two black men killed each other over a fucking chain. a chain!

so my take is, if he looks like a gangbanger, i'm going to automatically associate him with the black men i deal with here in southeast texas. if he is a black man who is articulate and treats me like a lady, then he is aces in my book.

but to be treated like a peice of meat while looking for milk? i don't think so.

Yeah, this is more of a class thing than a race thing. A lot of people don't realize that there are totally different socioeconomic and cultural classes of black people. (note: I did not say African Americans, since I wanted to include Black Latinos (:wave:), african and caribbean immigrants, etc.) For instance, my brothers and sisters have absolutely NO concept of the ghetto. They think it is something they see on TV and cannot grasp that people that look like them live like that, when they go to golf 4 times a week, live in a huge house in an all black neighborhood where everyone has at least a BA (most have some sort of doctorate).

But I hear Georgia has always been considered the anomaly in this regard.

LatinaRose
10-22-2007, 11:05 AM
i take on black guys. ;D :P



Ahahaha!!! Me too ;D

I wish I had before meeting my boyfriend!! I have this fantasy about being fucked hard by a gorgeous black man with a huge cock and I KNOW it will never come true >:( Oh well :)

Embyr
10-22-2007, 07:54 PM
^^^ hehe my first time was with a gorgeous black man... (my bf of 6 months at the time) british descent- dreadlocks, insanely artistic film major, killer body & sensual as hell... unfortunately the sex left something to be desired, but I've since then had some great african-american lovers... although I will say, I have yet to find that Black Man with Mythic Monster Cock. True, I've never seen a black man with micropenis, for sure, but... this 'ginormous dick' stereotype is very much not the norm.... even if xnxx.com would have you believe otherwise. :P

*realizes she's delved waaaay back deep into penis size territory and hangs head in shame*

francescadubois
10-22-2007, 10:13 PM
*realizes she's delved waaaay back deep into penis size territory and hangs head in shame*

(in thick Southern grama voice) Aww, don't be 'shamed, baby!! We done all did our dirt!! ;D

BTW, I fucking LOVE brits!!!!!!!!!!

JustJayda
10-23-2007, 12:28 PM
My take on black guys is that they frequently have darker skin then white guys.


That is all.

This is why you rock, this is why you rock, this is why, this is why...8)

p.s. Erotictonic, you're on some bullshit right now......posts like your's.....that is why I lurk, that is why I lurk..... >:(

miss marina
10-23-2007, 12:49 PM
To the OP, Are your parents gonna rule your life forever? Date who you want to date. I understand where your coming from, but you have to make yourself happy ya know? My first "real" boyfriend was black, and I had nothing but great experiences with him. My mother didnt like the idea of it, until she met him. She LOVED him! I went through alot of bs in school, Black girls would fight me because i was stealing 'their men', white guys would call me oreo..etc. Our family still stays in contact to this day even though we both have moved on :) They still come over for Holidays or we go over there.


I cant believe people are still racist in 2007 >:( its never gonna end is it? "black boys are trouble ::) ::) ::) " psh

PrincessN
10-23-2007, 02:14 PM
i love me the black guys especially in the bedroom ;)

TrixyTheWhore
10-24-2007, 07:55 AM
my take on black guys?

5 of them, preferably all starters if you know what i mean.

$$$magnet
10-29-2007, 12:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQpt4KJm1TM ;D

ahmeerah
10-29-2007, 12:27 PM
Yeah, this is more of a class thing than a race thing. A lot of people don't realize that there are totally different socioeconomic and cultural classes of black people. (note: I did not say African Americans, since I wanted to include Black Latinos (:wave:), african and caribbean immigrants, etc.) For instance, my brothers and sisters have absolutely NO concept of the ghetto. They think it is something they see on TV and cannot grasp that people that look like them live like that, when they go to golf 4 times a week, live in a huge house in an all black neighborhood where everyone has at least a BA (most have some sort of doctorate).

But I hear Georgia has always been considered the anomaly in this regard.

My neighborhood in Brooklyn, NY is pretty much like this. It's a bunch of young Black professionals with at least a BA.

Optimist
10-29-2007, 05:10 PM
LOL..me too...in fact there is video evidence playing this week on the Hustler channel!LOL!

OWW!! Hot stuff!!

hot4ablackchick
10-31-2007, 02:07 AM
I haven't had too many relationships (just 2 serious relationships) But in my experience most men are complete douchebag assholes. It does not matter which race, they are stupid. I've slept with 3 men, 2 black, one white, and will have to debunk the big black penis myth as well. The white penis, (which I am engaged to now) is second in the penis length, but the winner (sigh I know) is to a man who was 6'5" and was not huge, but big. I have seen a number of black cocks however, and most did stray to far from fiancee's white (and delectable) cock.

Anyway, if you show a man, any man, that you will not be treated like shit and won't put up with any garbage, then he will either walk or own up. It is not a black/white/hispanic whatever thing. You do not have to be black to be ghetto or a thug, ignorant behavior is universal. Bad manners is not a black thing. Slang is not a black thing. I hate ghetto people of any race, and find that extremely unattractive if a man does not know how to carry on a conversation and does not speak to me as the mature lady that I am. I would never pass out on the opportunity to love and be loved by someone wonderful simply because of their skin color if I found them attractive, even though I am more attracted to white guys. Racism sucks and I would tell my parents to fuck right off if they had a problem with a guy just because he was black. I just would not let bigotry keep me from meeting the love of my life. I just hate discrimination and even hate to hear white girls say, "Nobody ever has good relationship with a black man," "Black men are always so ghetto" "Blacks need to pull up their pants" (When I think of it, most of my friends are not in good relationships and most are with white guys) Even if that were all you came across, you should know that not everybody is the same and maybe that is just your demographic. Also, I have met a number of "thug" looking black men who were the sweetest, soft spoken, articulate, men you could ever talk to, and I hate the oversize shirt baggy saggy pants look. But judging men on attire is a wrong ladies!! Hell I still make that mistake. It can just amaze me how some people who have had limited contacts with blacks other than in public or in their strip club setting can come up with some of the shit they say. I've got white guys telling me I'm "hot for a black chick" and I'm just "too pretty to be black" and "Its amazing how you have no slang in your voice" But if I just went off what I heard ITC, I would run from white guys as soon as they approached!

I'm not saying its not OK to have preferences but to say I would NEVER date outside my race, or I think a certain race is trouble so I won't date them is stupid .

This isn't directed at anybody just my two cents.

Lysondra
10-31-2007, 03:56 AM
My mum only dated black men other than my father. She always said 'white men are boring'. :O I never really understood that. What's funny is when I told her that I thought Asian boys were cute (in my youth), she told me that it was also racist to prefer a race entirely different than your own, so she was a bit of a hypocrite. (She later told me not to learn new languages because it was racist... Buh?)

My take on black guys? They're human, just like everyone else. As long as they have a pulse, I'm pretty good. I'm pretty sure they have those. ;)

CinammonGirl
11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
Um, they're like any other guy.

Some are hot and masculine, just like you find in other groups.

NewMoon
11-02-2007, 04:16 AM
I'm actually not sexually attracted to black guys at all.

Corgan
11-03-2007, 02:45 AM
^ me either.

perhaps if black men in my area weren't so shitty i wouldn't think like that.

Embyr
11-03-2007, 02:59 AM
^^ how can you generalize like that?? you haven't met all of them! not even close, i'm sure.... making huge assumptions on the basis of a few bad encounters is really just not fair.... or very representative.

Just because you found a few bad apples doesn't mean everything from the tree is rotten.

TheSexKitten
11-03-2007, 03:52 AM
Wow, I'm glad I'm not a black man.

To think I was beginning to get frustrated at the amount of stereotyping, fetishizing, and discrimination of strippers. :(

*shameful self-realization of white privilege*

Lysondra
11-03-2007, 06:01 AM
^Speaking of fetisizing..Someone told me I was racist the other day because I had sex with a black girl that smelled of chocolate (like, really, she had chocolate perfume). They said it was offensive when I said the contrast of her skin against mine was a huge turn on and it was like the ultimate yin-yang Apparently saying I liked her dark skin is racist.... :O ?

But it DID look hot. I'm a pale thing and she was super South African dark. It was lovely, I thought. <3

Yekhefah
11-03-2007, 09:25 AM
^^^ I had the exact same experience when I was with an African girl. The contrast WAS hot and K also said we looked like a yin-yang. Her skin was gorgeous and she had waist-length tiny braids and it was BEAUTIFUL.

asianlady
11-03-2007, 12:37 PM
hate to be sterotypical but too many black guys who come into the club tr to get me to turn tricks for them,that said I have also had many clients who were black and great guys.even fucked a few and they were great so I am saying I make a decision on a case per case basis

ruru123
11-03-2007, 09:05 PM
This thread errks me. "You're take on black guys" ?? Who says that? I find it disrepectful, racist and so 1940's. My husband is a wonderful black man, the crap that he still endears to this day with racism and stereotism is still high, and it needs to stop. We are a inter-racail couple and never thought twice about it, and neither should anyone else. The stereo types of black men are ridiculous IMO, and need to be re-evaluated. We live in a very liberal and diverse city, and its not as previlent here, but I still see and hear about it.

TheSexKitten
11-03-2007, 11:23 PM
Psst! Ruru: your Stuart siggie makes me grin ;D

Aelfu_Gifu
11-06-2007, 01:08 AM
^^ how can you generalize like that?? you haven't met all of them! not even close, i'm sure.... making huge assumptions on the basis of a few bad encounters is really just not fair.... or very representative.

Just because you found a few bad apples doesn't mean everything from the tree is rotten.

Facts are where you live can definitely indicate the surrounding culture of an ethnic/racial group. Where I live, the black men are almost entirely nice young college boys. Drive for 45 minutes, and the black men are almost entirely raving jackasses. Life isn't fair.

Corgan
11-06-2007, 01:18 AM
This thread errks me. "You're take on black guys" ?? Who says that? I find it disrepectful, racist and so 1940's. My husband is a wonderful black man, the crap that he still endears to this day with racism and stereotism is still high, and it needs to stop. We are a inter-racail couple and never thought twice about it, and neither should anyone else. The stereo types of black men are ridiculous IMO, and need to be re-evaluated. We live in a very liberal and diverse city, and its not as previlent here, but I still see and hear about it.

i am sorry you have to deal with this, i am quite sure you husband is not the same breed of "black man" that is quickly brooding over southeast texas.

cinammonkisses
11-06-2007, 09:02 AM
Facts are where you live can definitely indicate the surrounding culture of an ethnic/racial group. Where I live, the black men are almost entirely nice young college boys. Drive for 45 minutes, and the black men are almost entirely raving jackasses. Life isn't fair.

Not necessarily true. I grew up in a very poor area through my youth and adulthood. I am articulate, cultured, sophisticated, and open-minded. Just because you live in a certain area does not mean that you the makeup entirely of your surrounding.

Aelfu_Gifu
11-06-2007, 10:07 AM
Not necessarily true. I grew up in a very poor area through my youth and adulthood. I am articulate, cultured, sophisticated, and open-minded. Just because you live in a certain area does not mean that you the makeup entirely of your surrounding.

There are always conditionals. Trust me; I'm a sneak. Look at my original statement:

"Where I live, the black men are almost entirely nice young college boys. Drive for 45 minutes, and the black men are almost entirely raving jackasses."

I'm also from a very poor area and consider myself pretty well-rounded and bright, but you and I are exceptions, not the rule. I was severely abused as a child, but do not allow myself to be abused now and am not an abuser. Both my parents have an addiction problem. I don't. There are always exceptions.

tootsie
11-08-2007, 07:33 PM
This thread errks me. "You're take on black guys" ?? Who says that? I find it disrepectful, racist and so 1940's. My husband is a wonderful black man, the crap that he still endears to this day with racism and stereotism is still high, and it needs to stop. We are a inter-racail couple and never thought twice about it, and neither should anyone else. The stereo types of black men are ridiculous IMO, and need to be re-evaluated. We live in a very liberal and diverse city, and its not as previlent here, but I still see and hear about it.



these types of threads really piss me off. Just because someone says they dont prefer black men DOES NOT MAKE THEM A RACIST! get a clue ::)

ruru123
11-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Psst! Ruru: your Stuart siggie makes me grin ;D


hehee...i know, i love stuart, and his mom...lol

ruru123
11-08-2007, 07:45 PM
these types of threads really piss me off. Just because someone says they dont prefer black men DOES NOT MAKE THEM A RACIST! get a clue ::)

i didn't call them a racist, i said it's part of racism. how would you feel if you all the black girls on here had a thread called "your take on WHITE women?" that would sound racial wouldn't it? everyone is entitled to their own opinions. and i understand if some people don't like a certain type of guy because of his attitude, but i think we need to stop blaming it on their color.

get a clue? thanks but im quite informed on the subject. theres no need to be rude. 8)

ruru123
11-08-2007, 07:47 PM
i am sorry you have to deal with this, i am quite sure you husband is not the same breed of "black man" that is quickly brooding over southeast texas.

no worries. and yeah i understand where you're coming from, i've seen guys (any color) act completely different in other areas. i think it's a culture thing.

the_dfb
11-08-2007, 08:39 PM
OH. WOW. this thread is blowing my mind on soooooo many levels right now. NO BUENO.

Dottie Rebel
11-08-2007, 09:39 PM
You know what I think isn't cool?

The OP in this thread obviously comes from a racist background--as we all do. Coming up in a society that is so throughly racist it is impossible to completely escape any shred of prejudice or bigotry. All we can do is decide to think for ourselves and try to shed all of the cultural baggage that is heaved upon us over a lifetime. That's what we are *all* trying to do, right?

The OP may seem a little naive, ignorant, uneducated--whatever--but it sounds like she is doing her best to shed what seems to be a massive amount of said baggage. She even said that she does not agree with her parents. So she may not have grown up in the suburbs where we are taught that it is impolite to even talk about race (which is a whole other ball of ignorant wax. I find it's usually white people get uncomfortable talking about race.) or taken university classes on diversity and multiculturalism--but she's trying to transcend her upbringing, dammit. More than you can say for lots of folks.

If you want to explain why you think it is racist to even ask "what's your take on black men" please do--it may be enlightening for everyone. But don't jump on the OP when she is trying the best she can to learn and open up her mind.

Bashing eachother is not the way to stop racism. Being afraid to even mention race because someone might freak out is also not going to solve anything. Each one teach one. So the OP may be ignorant (meaning not informed) about race issues. Teach her. I've got news for you: you may be ignorant about some things as well.

Aelfu_Gifu
11-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Brilliant point, Dottie. We should all look at the beliefs we've gotten from our parents, society, pop culture, religion, and work on letting go of the beliefs that no longer work for us.

I think the reason blood boils at the topic is that people see elements of themselves in the OP, though. I know I certainly can and have come a long way from the old beliefs I was holding onto! So good on the OP for looking at her life boldly. :)

smartcookie
11-08-2007, 10:32 PM
My take on black guys is that they're black.

I lost my virginity to a Jamaican man. The "once you go back..." saying did not ring true in my case. In the long interim since then, I've had a terrible crush on a musician who moonlighted as a waiter at a restaurant I frequently patronized, who happened to be black. Nothing came of it, unfortunately.

I think, because my first boyfriend (the Jamaican) had such a hang-up on my whiteness, like I was some big prize or something, and I had already experienced this with Japanese men I dated when I was living in Japan, I was put off dating non-Caucasian men for a long time. But it really doesn't matter to me now. It would matter to my family, because they are racist and bigoted, but I wouldn't care.

Corgan
11-11-2007, 11:52 PM
^^ how can you generalize like that?? you haven't met all of them! not even close, i'm sure.... making huge assumptions on the basis of a few bad encounters is really just not fair.... or very representative.

Just because you found a few bad apples doesn't mean everything from the tree is rotten.

i don't expect anyone, or you, to understand if you/they don't live here. did you read my milk story? 90% of black men in my area are like that and they are even worse in the SC.

dance81
11-12-2007, 07:22 AM
i dont find black men attractive AT ALL, both physically and mentally, thats just my preference.

and i sympathise with corgan...im sorry to read your milk story...some men are just low-class a-holes, but from my experience, the majority of the a-holes just happen to be black.