View Full Version : Who from SCJ would you like to meet?
Emily
04-22-2006, 04:16 PM
Now, y'know I normally eshew these popularity threads, but c'mon. A ferret-loving, career stripper who went to Smith! Life does not get any better than that. Unless she dances to Mitsou. Seriously Em - trot out some Mitsou, and if I ever get a job, I am so there.
yes! come down! I told Gen that there were two other pinkies working there and more I was trying to recruit. jenny is one of them. I think she's almost convinced.
Oh, it's fine my name didn't come up more. When I told Gen that I was on SW, I was kind of shocked he didn't immediately know who I was. I explained, "but I have like 5000 posts, I'm a moderator and my picture is in my avatar!" And he said he was on the blue site a lot, but yet....I didn't know who he was.
I can understand that. Back in the day, when I was pretty much exclusively Blue I didnt know many pinkies, Mods or not.
I just assumed he was a stereotypical blue baller but he assured me he was not. Still, I got scared. I'm intimidated by blue ballers, especially ones whose background I do not know. I asked him not to tell everyone he fingered me, jokingly. :D
Now, now, if we spewed out the pinkie sterotypes you would be offended LOL And seems to me you are getting a tinge of Blue with that figurative fingering comment LOL
Glad you guys had a good time.
FBR
Emily
04-22-2006, 04:42 PM
Hey, I'm a stereotypical pinkie. I am easily offended and will not hesitate to give an "euw, NO!" to out of line requests (which is pretty much anything extra).
Gen, of course, is a gentleman and specifically told me that blue ballers give him lip for not trying to get more mileage. Of course I liked him. he bought a few of my *okay* lap dances and seemed to like them. I'm too afraid of getting DNA on me to give a lapper that most blue ballers seem to want.
yes, I'm a typical pinkie
Y'know Emily, Im surprised Gen said that. I dont remember anyone giving him shit over his reported club activities. Pretty much everyone praises him for his stories and comments. If there are guys who had disparaging thoughts, they kept them to themselves so far as I recall. I guess, if you are so inclinded, you could go back and read some of them.
I respect Gen but if he truly feels that way, I believe its more the case that he somehow feels embarrassed that hes not a monger as opposed to anyone expecting him to be one or caring that much one way or the other. As I said previously (or it might have been in the TR thread) Gen knows what he likes for an enjoyable club experience.
Anyway, Im probably dwelling on the point too much.
Have a great day.
FBR
Gen, of course, is a gentleman and specifically told me that blue ballers give him lip for not trying to get more mileage. Of course I liked him. he bought a few of my *okay* lap dances and seemed to like them. I'm too afraid of getting DNA on me to give a lapper that most blue ballers seem to want.
Em, theres probably more talk of that in Pink CC than in Blue, believe it or not. Its just that Jay and I nuke the threads over there before most folks see them, including other mods.
Preconceived notions aside, yeah there are mongers here. And yeah, at the other end of the spectrum there are guys who are perfectly fine with low mileage. Delusional PLs do get some shit, I admit. The majority of the guys, at least from what Ive seen, while not opposed to high end mileage, arent hitting the clubs with the intent to ejaculate on some dancer. They just want to find a gal who is fun to hang out with and hopefully puts forth a little effort to earn her money. That seems reasonable to me.
FBR
doc-catfish
04-22-2006, 06:04 PM
Gen, of course, is a gentleman and specifically told me that blue ballers give him lip for not trying to get more mileage. Of course I liked him. he bought a few of my *okay* lap dances and seemed to like them.
Sounds like a guy who knows how he wants to spend his SC dollar and doesn't care what others think about his preferences. (In otherwords, he's just like me).
That's what the whole experience should be about, so I can't give a guy lip for that. I'm just glad he put in a good word for us all in case I want to go back East.
kikin
04-22-2006, 06:06 PM
Hey, I'm a stereotypical pinkie.
No. You, lady, are one of a kind.
I am such a f'in' good judge of character--online, even. I knew you were one of the good ones. A keeper--that's for sure. I'm glad GenWar treated you like the lady that you are. For now, I am going over to Trip Reports to read his TR and live vicariously through his encounter with you. Who knows? One day my turn will come.
Thanks for being you, Emily!
;)
GenWar
04-23-2006, 12:40 PM
QUOTE=FBR:
Y'know Emily, Im surprised Gen said that. I dont remember anyone giving him shit over his reported club activities. Pretty much everyone praises him for his stories and comments. If there are guys who had disparaging thoughts, they kept them to themselves so far as I recall. I guess, if you are so inclinded, you could go back and read some of them.
I respect Gen but if he truly feels that way, I believe its more the case that he somehow feels embarrassed that hes not a monger as opposed to anyone expecting him to be one or caring that much one way or the other. As I said previously (or it might have been in the TR thread) Gen knows what he likes for an enjoyable club experience.
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I did say that and I guess, on some level, it is what I think. Has anyone truly given me shit over it? Contextually speaking, I would have to say no. I have seen some people really get shit on here and I haven't experienced that. But I do recall some threads wherein I felt like I had to be the lone dissenter in the pro-extras/maximize mileage argument. Maybe I internalized it in a defensive manner and therefore recall it as being given a hard time. It is all in good fun, as you can’t survive in this world, especially online, ESPECIALLY on stripclubjunkie.com, with too thin a skin.
So, not exactly embarrassed, but certainly troubled by the (some say ‘naïve’) belief that I cling to that, fundamentally, all strip club customers are gentlemen and it is the mongers who are the exceptions. “Cling” is the right verb because I seem to be bombarded by examples to the contrary, especially on the boards. So I will continue to have faith, cuz I guess that it is what it is. We are not all of us mongers or even stereotypically so. I often feel like I am in the minority for thinking that.
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QUOTE from FBR:
Gens not a PL. A PL spends under the delusion that hes going to get something that everyone else on the planet knows hes not going to get. Gen OTOH knows his own expectations and is a realist. Hes just OK with lower mileage than some guys. Hey, different strokes.
As far as hating the word stripper, maybe he was just sligging a little CS
FBR
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I don’t exactly define PL that way. My definition is more like “A customer who is so caught up in the fantasy that he is not controlling his expenditures and not using his larger, higher altitude brain in making decisions about his actions and activities in the club.” So you see, to me, being a PL is a state that one can enter and exit. I think it covers the poor bastards who hit the club for the first time, meet a wonderful dancer and decide that they must “rescue” her and make a wife/GF out of her. They are PLs, who, tragically and unfortunately, have trapped themselves in the state of mind. A more savvy customer, like I flatter myself by thinking I am, can use the PLness as a means to have an excellent time, but, with the proper planning and control, can walk away, shift out of PL and go back to normal life with minimal disruption. My Rule #2 states, “Never forget it is a fantasy. Be a PL if you must, but never forget.” That pretty much sums it up.
About for the ‘S’-word. I believe, in the right context and usage, it is fine. In others, it is wholly unacceptable. You must admit that, in some aspects and contexts of our society, that word can carry, by default, a VERY negative connotation that no dancer I have ever met deserves. In others, like on the boards, it is just a noun referring to a definition without any implication. In some senses, it reminds me of the ‘N’-word. Sometimes, I hear it and it is just another word. Other times, I hear it and I am instantly struck with the burning desire to pummel the user. The difference is only context; it is the same word. In any case, I was not bs-ing or CS-ing. I really do avoid/dislike BOTH of those words, because of the negative power they can contain, and therefore, avoid using both, especially in contexts that I do not have a complete handle on.
On mileage, I think you hit the nail on the head, FBR. It is about expectations. If you go to a club expecting one thing and find another, you will be disappointed. They key is to maintain the right expectations. Em’s club is VERY nice. Its essence has yet to grow into its shell but, when it does, no one will be able to mistake it for a high mileage place. If you go looking for that, you will have a problem.
Am I ok with low mileage? I never thought of it that way. It is more to say that mileage is not what I seek. That’s the wingman. (We used to say that all he needed was a folding chair on a street corner, a transistor radio and a high-mileage dancer and he was happy.) I seek conversation, companionship, chemistry and generally having a good time. I like to flirt with beautiful women and have them flirt with me. I consider myself a connoisseur of SS and enjoy good SS like some enjoy a fine wine. I have been known to sit with a dancer for 6 hours without a single dance just because I am enjoying her company. Sometimes this backfires, sorta. (I remember one dancer that I met in what I thought was a low mileage club. She was drunk and high and didn’t feel like working, so we sat and ate and drank and talked and I had a great time. At the end of the night, she finally went for the question and her dances were INSANE. I could have having those phenomenally high mileage dances ALL night but I honestly had no regrets because I got the experience I came for.)
This, of course, is a more difficult model and requires you to be pretty down to earth and clear minded about the in-club activities. The ladies are there to make money and this methodology does not lend itself to that. Some of the more savvy ones will diagnose this entire scenario and simple name a number to put an end to the wandering and working the room. And, on rare occasions, I have actually paid it because I was enjoying myself that much. Most ladies simply assume I am some sort of weirdo and give what game they consider appropriate, ask for the dances and take them and move on. I am fine with this, as well, as I simply diagnose how much effort she put forth and how much I enjoyed it and then buy dances accordingly as payment. But, and brace yourself when I say this, the dances are actually superfluous to me. The experience leading to them is what I seek.
Anyway, I think this addresses the points that came up in this and the TR thread. As always, discussion welcome. J
-gen
Gen, good to see your response and Im glad you took my comments the way I intended them :)
Just a couple of quick points.
I believe I said you were OK with "lower" mileage not "low" mileage which many guys would equate with "no" mileage. I think its safe to assume that all the guys here expect contact/close interaction to some degree and wouldnt be too thrilled to drop LD money on a gal who stood six feet away where he cant even smell her perfume. At least I dont think so.
My definition of PL is less complicated than yours. In my mind, a PL is a clueless fucker who spends and spends in the hope of getting something that was never intended and will keep coming back, while not havent learned anything. These guys provide dressing room conversational entertainment which isnt a particularly good badge for a guy to want to wear. You definitely dont fall into that catagory.
As far as the "S" word goes, Ive yet to meet a stripper who was offended being called that, at least within the confines and context of the club environment. And frankly I would consider her a prima donna if she felt that way. Maybe thats due to the class of clubs I frequent.
Thanks again for the response.
FBR
yoda57us
04-23-2006, 04:08 PM
Gen: I don't approach strip clubbing quite the same way you do but I have nothing but respect for the way you conduct yourself. My approch is to find a girl I like and accept what she offers. Sometimes this means low mileage and sometimes it means high mileage. Either way if I like the lady I'm happy.
I agree with FBR, a PL is a guy who is tying to buy something that simply can't be bought. A guy who spends money in a strip club to have a good time, treats the ladies with respect, can laugh at himself and the often absurd goings-on in a SC, and leaves happy will never be a PL in my book.
GenWar
04-23-2006, 04:27 PM
QUOTE=FBR:
I believe I said you were OK with "lower" mileage not "low" mileage which many guys would equate with "no" mileage. I think its safe to assume that all the guys here expect contact/close interaction to some degree and wouldnt be too thrilled to drop LD money on a gal who stood six feet away where he cant even smell her perfume. At least I dont think so.
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Fair enough. I actually did have the six feet experience. In Orlando, FL. I wasn't wise enough in the SC ways to know to drive to Tampa. The next night, we ended up in Daytona Beach. But, IN Orlando, they have like a six ft. rule...damnest thing. In any case, you are right, I was NOT on board with that. We can agree on "lower."
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QUOTE=FBR:
My definition of PL is less complicated than yours. In my mind, a PL is a clueless fucker who spends and spends in the hope of getting something that was never intended and will keep coming back, while not havent learned anything. These guys provide dressing room conversational entertainment which isnt a particularly good badge for a guy to want to wear. You definitely dont fall into that catagory.
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Again, fair enough. I don't have some morbid need to own a negative label. But, how would you define someone who can lose it in a club, totally fall for a particular dancer and give her every red nickle he has, and walk away at the end of the night, without looking back? There is some level of obsession there and I am trying to reflect that in the definition. :)
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QUOTE=FBR:
As far as the "S" word goes, Ive yet to meet a stripper who was offended being called that, at least within the confines and context of the club environment. And frankly I would consider her a prima donna if she felt that way. Maybe thats due to the class of clubs I frequent.
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You know what? I don't think I have met one who was offended either. I think it might be my penchant to overanalyze. Chock it up to my idiosyncracies. It is certainly less wierd than refusing to ever ask for a dance, no matter how badly I might want one. Right? ::)
-gen
sander8son
04-23-2006, 10:03 PM
No. You, lady, are one of a kind.
I am such a f'in' good judge of character--online, even. I knew you were one of the good ones. A keeper--that's for sure. I'm glad GenWar treated you like the lady that you are. For now, I am going over to Trip Reports to read his TR and live vicariously through his encounter with you. Who knows? One day my turn will come.
Thanks for being you, Emily!
;)
i think im going to puke. btw kikin, i like your location. it makes a fun accronym. are you originally from PR by any chance?
kikin
04-24-2006, 04:33 AM
No. And you should do something about that constant urge to puke.
BrunetteGoddess
04-24-2006, 05:21 PM
Hmmm, lets see..
Cally
Tiff
Keeks
Blade
Dea
Pamela
Shayden
hardkandee
...thats all I can think of right now.
NoCoverLover
05-02-2006, 11:50 PM
Let's see! For the blue side...
3. Chili Palmer
2. GenWar
1. Blade
According to his trip reports, the amount of money CP spends in SC's makes me look like a chump!! According to my friends, the amount of money I spend in SC's makes them look like chumps. Dude, that makes you SCARY!!
GenWar has literary skills that make me look like an amateur (does anyone sense a theme here??).
Blade is talked about on both the pink and blue sides alll the time. The only conversation I've ever had with him was over on TK. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for missing the Phoenix SW fest :(
Now for the pinkies:
3. Emily
2. Optimist
1. Jenny
I don't know Emily at all, but she has really cool views on things! Everybody else shares my opionion of her too.
I've given Optimist the inside scoop on some stuff that defines me as a life-long customer. She's very cool!
I want to meet Jenny, well... because I do.
The person I wanted to meet the most after arriving here I've already met several times, so she wasn't included in the list. If you caught my posts about this on the pink side, you know who I'm talking about...
GenWar
05-03-2006, 04:58 AM
QUOTE=NoCoverLover:
2. GenWar
GenWar has literary skills that make me look like an amateur (does anyone sense a theme here??).
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*blush* Thanks. :)
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QUOTE=NoCoverLover:
I want to meet Jenny, well... because I do.
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Dude! You LIVE there! If you can't make it happen, what hope do the rest of us have? As the motivational poster on my wall says, "Perserverance. Some people want it to happen...Some people wish it to happen...Others tear down the walls of resistance and make it happen." (`Course that poster features Wolverine (in the original yellow costume), but why quibble?)
It's not THAT big a city. Focus, be methodical and keep hope alive. We're all counting on you.
-gen
P.S. Go Blue Jays! *shrug*
Casual Observer
05-03-2006, 06:43 AM
My approch is to find a girl I like and accept what she offers. Sometimes this means low mileage and sometimes it means high mileage. Either way if I like the lady I'm happy.
That's about my SOP as well.
I try not to think too much about it.
I'm intimidated by blue ballers, especially ones whose background I do not know.
Hehe...we're not all raincoaters, Em. ;)
lunchbox
05-03-2006, 06:54 AM
Let's see! For the blue side...
1. Blade
Blade is talked about on both the pink and blue sides alll the time. The only conversation I've ever had with him was over on TK. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for missing the Phoenix SW fest :(
Blade is a pinky.
kikin
05-03-2006, 12:30 PM
Im meeting a certian SW member tomorrow though *grin* one that a few of you wanna meet now :P
How old are we?
GenWar
05-03-2006, 02:47 PM
QUOTE=Cally:
and for some reason GenWar is growing on me :P I havnt seen him post till recently
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Methinks the lady hath not read any of my trip reports. :O
Still, I will take the compliment as I imagine it was intended and say, "Thank you." ;)
-gen
NoCoverLover
05-03-2006, 02:58 PM
Dude! You LIVE there! If you can't make it happen, what hope do the rest of us have? As the motivational poster on my wall says, "Perserverance. Some people want it to happen...Some people wish it to happen...Others tear down the walls of resistance and make it happen." (`Course that poster features Wolverine (in the original yellow costume), but why quibble?)
It's not THAT big a city. Focus, be methodical and keep hope alive. We're all counting on you.
I hear that she's not too cool on the idea of meeting customers (ie SW/SCJ peeps) outside of work, say at a SW fest. At work... well that's a different story, at least I hope.
The challenge will certainly be enhanced if she doesn't want me to find her!
Cally
05-03-2006, 03:00 PM
LoL GenWar I said I havnt read the blue side in a long time... and never bothered with trip reports :P
lunchbox
05-03-2006, 03:09 PM
LoL GenWar I said I havnt read the blue side in a long time... and never bothered with trip reports :P
you dont know what you are missing ::)
Cally
05-03-2006, 03:44 PM
Now you have perked my interest lunchbox... think I may need to read... first off I need a big cup of coffee to stop myself from falling asleep...
GenWar
05-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Now you have perked my interest lunchbox... think I may need to read... first off I need a big cup of coffee to stop myself from falling asleep...
ESPECIALLY if you are reading one of mine. ::)
-gen
NoCoverLover
05-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Blade is a pinky.
Yes, that would be true...
Guess I shoud have said Guys & Girls as opposed to Smurfs & Pinkies!
Jenny
05-03-2006, 07:39 PM
I hear that she's not too cool on the idea of meeting customers (ie SW/SCJ peeps) outside of work, say at a SW fest. At work... well that's a different story, at least I hope.
The challenge will certainly be enhanced if she doesn't want me to find her!
Well, you guys gotta understand I'm really a dork in person (yes, my critics, even more so). So I have to protect my online persona. Plus - I could just be playing really hard to get. Let me know how that is working out.
lunchbox
05-03-2006, 09:35 PM
Let me know how that is working out.
I've never wanted another A2M so bad.
Docido
05-04-2006, 05:43 PM
Jenny's like the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker - elusive, secretive, and aloof!! 8)
Jenny
05-04-2006, 08:18 PM
So I'm completely vitiating my aloof status. I met my first girl SW member tonight. Very exciting. Just a doll to look at. And the fact that she was not at all put off my wizened, pockmarked appearance speaks volumes for her character.
Jenny
05-04-2006, 08:23 PM
Eek. I should clarify, maybe, that she was also very sweet to talk to, in case that seems like a significant omission.
stitch132
05-04-2006, 08:44 PM
... my wizened, pockmarked appearance ...Something like this?
http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/2067/acf16464xr.jpg
Jenny
05-04-2006, 08:48 PM
Oh my god, that's me! Where did you get that?!
That's it, I'm suing. I'm angered; infuriated. And someone else has been enriching themselves off of MY pockmarked, wizened image. They airbrushed out the pus-sack though.
Cally
05-04-2006, 08:55 PM
How dare you post a pic of Jenny like that!!!
LoL Jenny is very sweet and very wise ;) I had a great time with her... though that pocket of puss above her eye is kind of sexy and a turn on in a way *drool*
stitch132
05-04-2006, 09:53 PM
I apologize.
I was trying to be kind, and hence posted the airbrushed version.
Original attached.
Cally
05-04-2006, 11:12 PM
Aww FBR your on the top of my list for a reason ;) And hey because of you im trying to plan a trip to Ohio :P
GenWar
05-05-2006, 05:32 AM
QUOTE=Cally:
LoL Jenny is very sweet and very wise ;) I had a great time with her...
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As if there weren't enough draw to meeting Cally, now we can pump her for information on Jenny. ::) Hmm...perhaps that wasn't the right verb...}:D
-gen
Aww FBR your on the top of my list for a reason ;) And hey because of you im trying to plan a trip to Ohio :P
If it looks like things might work out PM me if you want. Im in the southern most part of the state so hopefully youre not thinking of Cleveland or Toledo.
FBR
sander8son
05-05-2006, 11:38 PM
hah, yah it was in the "why dont they get it thread" and those posts are still there. but for what its worth id still like to bend both you boy's over and fill you with my 2 full inches of boyhood.
NoCoverLover
05-06-2006, 12:21 AM
Hey Jenny! I heard that you made an appearance at my club. They wouldn't let you in because you didn't have your ID. Always bring your ID girl!!
The doorman's name was George (he's spanish, but the actual name escapes me :O).
Since Shy's going to be visiting Filmores, it's all good!! :P:P
Cally
05-06-2006, 12:31 AM
NoCover Jenny hides ;) She likes to keep her secret identity ;)
And I said we were GOING to go to rail but we didnt have id :P
NoCoverLover
05-06-2006, 12:43 AM
That's what I said 8)
No one has any idea what we're talking about, so don't worry :D
Cheers!!
GenWar
05-06-2006, 07:15 AM
What's to worry? you gave clues to lead to a club they DIDN'T go to. No point in tracking THAT down. :)
-gen
Jenny
05-06-2006, 07:22 AM
Actually I had this conversation at the door:
-Well, I have... part of my dancing license, and I am nearly 30. Isn't that enough
-Sorry.
-Really (for a moment I kind of fluff myself, imagining, briefly, that this is flattery)
-Prostitutes don't carry ID, and we don't want prostitutes in the club.
-Ah. Well. I just don't have a driver's license.
NoCoverLover
05-06-2006, 10:48 AM
The doorman (not sure we can call him that) is a fucking chump!!
He actually called you a prostitute!! Someone's gettin' bitch-slapped }:D
Jenny
05-06-2006, 01:49 PM
Actually I think he was more explaining why they were checking ID despite the fact that I am clearly of age. Still embarrassing though.
amylynnej
05-06-2006, 02:29 PM
I get no love! LOL
Docido
05-06-2006, 03:36 PM
I think it's better that Jenny remain something of a mystery. In my mind's eye I picture Jenny looking like a red-haired Sarah Vowel. It works even better if you imagine all Jenny's posts read in Sarah's snarky, nasal, flat, accent. Did I mention that I find Sarah Vowel kinda sexy? Does this make me a complete weirdo? Oh, the crush of shame! :O
stitch132
05-06-2006, 03:55 PM
Yes, I think you've got it, Docido. Sarah Vowel with red hair (and, of course, pockmarked and wizened). (Jenny in real life probably has brown or blond hair and a perfect complexion!)
I think it's probably best never to meet the strong personalities one knows only online or through email. I worked for several years with someone at Charité University Hospital in Berlin -- he was in Berlin and I in New Jersey. We wrote a paper together, and I made a presentation for him (he was first author) at Cold Spring Harbor. But when I finally met him in person, it was a great disappointment to me. He seemed a nice guy, but not the brilliant, witty and brave pioneer of science that I had constructed in my mind. Our collaboration basically ended there, and now we exchange no more than pleasantries.
Docido
05-06-2006, 04:09 PM
Stitch you're totally OTM. If only we had spell check and editors in real-life. Reality doesn't allow do-overs. /:O