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babystripper
12-16-2005, 07:13 AM
been following this forum so closely as it completely amazes me. After hearing all the good things I got myself onto ebay. But they dont sell any pheremones you guys have named over here in the UK. So I have ordered a bottle of Pure Instinct and paid extra to get it shipped over. Its not here today....but I think it will be here tomorrow in time for work tomorrow night...! cant wait!
angelina
12-18-2005, 12:05 PM
I'm wondering if anyone has any updates on the products they bought. Did you try to experiment more with other brands or did you continue to stick to 1 brand? Nobody mentioned Perfect 10. It retails for $129 on phermonesandmore.com I'm thinking of getting it, along with Primal Instinct and Pure Instinct.
Paintbaby
12-18-2005, 01:02 PM
You probably don't need so many products. Primal is extremely potent, and you don't have to mix it with anything. I just ordered Cleo, which is even more potent than the Primal, with 2 extra pheromones. Reviews on this stuff were pretty impressive. Pure is not as concentrated.
Keep in mind, too, that you want a product with mainly female pheromones--androstenol and copulins. These will be the most effective in attracting men. Other products contain a mix of both male and female pheromones, which could be less effective--could send a confusing chemical signature. I say go for the girliest ones, that way there can be no confusion. I've had great luck with the Primal, because it only contains female pheromones. The Cleo I ordered is even more potent, and contains the highest concentration of girly pheromones as well. Haven't tried it yet, though, so I can't comment on it, although I suspect it will be a hit!
McCain
12-18-2005, 04:43 PM
LMAO at all, y'all....
Glad to hear the stuff is working for most of you, and that the rest of you are finding other stuff that works. Now I'm wishing I had hooked up with the Pure Instincts distributors so that I could make kick-backs off all this, lol....
Now, the reason why a lot of you are feeling more mellow while using this stuff? Pheromones tend to trigger roughly the same portions of your brain and body chemistry that are active when... you're IN LOVE....
:D
Hope everyone has a good one!
~~McCain
MoneyLover
12-18-2005, 09:10 PM
Just ordered Primal Instinct unscented for women on ebay, will update. I truly believe in the power of pheremones, because every time before my period, I have men all over me, staring, trying to pick me up more than at other times, I assume they smell fertility.
lalalatina
12-19-2005, 05:19 PM
So what's the layering order with the pheremones? Pheremones first, then perfume, or vice versa? I would think the latter would work better. And paintbaby, I went to that website and I'm dying to use cleo as well! Still waiting for Prima though!
Paintbaby
12-19-2005, 06:55 PM
What I do is I put the pheromones on my neck behind the ear kind of, and also between my cleavage--and then spray the perfume on my throat, wrists. I don't know what product you use, if it is a spray one or a concentrate. I use Primal, and it is an oil-based concentrate that I can just dab on with my finger. If you are using a spray, spray the pheromones first, then the perfume on top.
leilanicandy
12-19-2005, 07:03 PM
So do you suppose to put perfume on, after putting on the pheromes. I bought my pure instinct off of ebay. Nothing special happen! Where do you suppose to apply it?
Paintbaby
12-19-2005, 08:02 PM
Leilani, you might want to purchase directly off the website www.pheromonesandmore.com because then you are guarenteed a quality product, excellent customer service and a fair refund policy, as well as free shipping. I'm a little nervous about e-bay when it comes to stuff like this--artificial human pheromones are costly to manufacture, and thus any quality product isn't going to be cheap. Know your source.
Pure is a scented product, so you don't have to apply perfume over top, unless you want to. Some gals on here really like their Pure, and have had success with it. The reason I chose not to go with Pure is because it is a unisex product so both men and women can wear it. I prefer getting the biggest pheromone bang for my buck--so I went with the Primal, because it is extremely concentrated, and contains ONLY female pheromones. That makes sense to me. As a woman, I want to wear a product that is going to send a strong chemical message to a man that will increase his testosterone and thus his sexual response. I don't want to muddy the message by throwing male pheromones in there. As I've indicated in previous posts, I've gotten great reactions from men while wearing the Primal. I'm now waiting for an order of Cleo--it has even more pheromones that the Primal, and is all woman!
MishaBliss
12-19-2005, 09:56 PM
I just ordered some Primal Instinct online, so as to have it ready when i go back to work in a few months. I hope this stuff works on me!!!
greenidlady1
12-19-2005, 10:46 PM
I didn't read every page of this forum but did anyone mention the fact that using deodorant can mask our natural pheromones. I just read this today in "Life's Imponderables". And one reason we grow more hair underneath our arms and on our genitalia is to help this "pheromone" supposedly stick. I think I am going to stop using deodorant at work, lol. I also read in a magazine, (forgot which one)
that rubbing vaginal secretions on your body can work :O . I am a little more skeptical of trying that one though.
lalalatina
12-19-2005, 11:32 PM
Hey Paintbaby, did you check out Passion? I think it's nothing but copulins. I ordered that with Primal as a set on the same website as Cleo.
Paintbaby
12-20-2005, 10:29 AM
I did consider the Passion, and would like to pick it up at some point. It can be mixed with the Primal, too---let me know how it works for you!
hopeless romantic
12-20-2005, 11:37 AM
Re: deoderant and phermones, if you clean your armpits swith alchohol it will kill the bacteria that ferment the sweat and are the cause of BO, so later when you sweat it won't stink and all your womanly goodness can be on olfactory display. You only have to do this every couple days.
colleen
12-20-2005, 02:34 PM
I just ordered mine from phereomoes and more. How long does it take to get there, if you use the free shipping?
whirlerz
12-20-2005, 04:10 PM
Marlyn Miglin perfume contains pheremones, it's on hsn.com. If you like vanilla, check out Silky Sheets Spray Talc for bed & bod, it also comes in Musk, Pear, & a couple others, @ Lover's Lane.
Paintbaby
12-20-2005, 06:03 PM
I just ordered mine from phereomoes and more. How long does it take to get there, if you use the free shipping?
Colleen, it took mine a little over a week, but I'm up in Canada.
angelina
12-20-2005, 06:46 PM
Did you get charged extra taxes or brokerage fees when the package was delivered?
Paintbaby
12-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Not a one.
colleen
12-22-2005, 03:27 AM
Colleen, it took mine a little over a week, but I'm up in Canada.
Ohhhh, I can't wait!
Foxey
12-23-2005, 01:29 AM
I have Pure Instinct and my friends and I think it smells like straight up watermelon. I find the scent wears off really fast so I've been wearing random perfume overtop. It doesn't matter if the perfume clashes or not because the watermelon sent is gone in like 5 mins. I'm obsessed with Sandalwood Rose from Bath & Body Works right now. I've definately had an increase in earnings since I started wearing Pure Instinct but my bottle is almost gone so I'm thinking I might try Primal Instinct this time. Paintbaby has me sold lol. I asked for Realm for Christmas though so we will see if Santa was listening. Has anyone else noticed that you don't really get very much product on when you use the applicator with Pure Instinct? I've started using my finger to apply it instead just to get a bit more on. Do you guys use the applicator? What do you think?
**Dream**
12-23-2005, 04:11 PM
This forum has been a great way for me to learn more about these products. I diffinitely need to get my hands on Primal Instinct. Thanks you guys!
angelina
12-23-2005, 04:36 PM
Oh I'm so happy I got my package today. Phermonesandmore did a great job. I didn't expect it so quickly. I have a question for the experienced users. How much do you put on? I mean I'll put some on the wrists, neck and clevage but I'm wondering if I should put a little swab, a small drop, or a larger drop. Anyone? Pure Instinct smells nice-I agree. Woo hoo!
lalalatina
12-23-2005, 08:02 PM
I ordered mine 8 days ago and still haven't received it, pheromones and more told me to expect it in the next couple of days. I CAN'T WAIT!!!! I gotta order Cleo as well.
MoneyLover
12-25-2005, 10:58 AM
OMG Ive been following this thread, but common does ANYONE or more people have some results, positive or negative, Please Id love to hear! I already ordered and I will be reporting soon. Until then I can say I believe in the power of pheremones!!
Paintbaby
12-25-2005, 02:58 PM
I posted that I got great results with the Primal. Lots of starry-eyed attention from men and more crazed and passionate sex with my out-of-town lover than usual. Makes me feel pretty damn nice, too.
whirlerz
12-30-2005, 03:10 PM
Well, I was in the adult bookstore today, they had pheremones for men only. (forgot what it was called) They also had some type of vanilla scented spray w/pheremones
colleen
01-07-2006, 11:38 AM
I have been having incredible luck with the Primal instinct. I am getting almost NO single dances any more. they are all good for at least 2 or 3 dances, and when they think they are done, I stick my boobs or shoulder (where I put the PI) in thier face and whisper in their ear, "Oh. baby, PLEASE, jsut one more!) and if they have the $$ I usually get it.
I am having guys who never gave me a second look now telling me they have had the hots for me all along, have I lost weight, etc etc.
Guys who originally buy one dance jsut b/c I gave them a back rub or b/c they feel obligated to buy a dance from everybody have come back for seconds, even thirds.
I am making a heap of $$ without even trying. Once I hook them , I can DEFINITELY keep them hooked. (Now the problem is hooking them in the first place!)
Also, it makes me a little horny, too. This is a good thing, since I make more $$ wehn I am a little bit wound up. Since I am normally not horny every single time I go into work and stay that way for 8 hours, that in itself is a godsend.
I gave some to another dancer who was having a bad night, and she 1)immediately told me it made her horny and 2) walked out of the dressing room and made $80 off the next guy she ran into (that would pay for the bottle right there! If she was smart, she would aske me to order some for her!)
Last night, a girl came on to me (another dancer who I have known for over a year). She is bi anyway, but last night kept telling her reg that she was gong to convert me.
There is a downside, however.
I have noticed guys have this COMPULSION to lick the stuff off. Even my normal regs have started kissing on my boobs, neck, shoulders, and hands (where I put it) when they didn't before. Even my husband does it! I can't even get too mad at them, b/c I brought this on myself. I just keep a supply of baby wipes in my bag at all times!
I have also noticed it makes some guys aggressive to even hostile. It seems like, if they would like you normally, they REALLY like you. If they would feel indifferent to you normally, then they like you more than before. If they would NOT have liked you normally, then they REALLY REALLY cannot stand you with the pheremones on.
I would definitely recommend Primal INstinct. THat little $60 bottle has paid for itself many times over.
LadyLust
01-09-2006, 01:37 PM
I got PURE and it did nothing for me except I had to fight hands, lips and tounges....All they wanted to do was hold me capture..It's like i couldnt get away...But they didnt want anymore dances...
breezy24
01-09-2006, 03:39 PM
So i went onto ebay about PRIMAL and found some for sale-from The Love Solutions Store and smelzgood.com I am wondering from whom you all bought yours from
Paintbaby
01-09-2006, 05:06 PM
www.pheromonesandmore.com
goldengrl69
01-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I bought Pure Instinct. It smells great but it wears off way too fast and thats a big problem if you have to use it nightly!
angelina
01-10-2006, 12:27 PM
I started using it but only around people I've already know and have a rapport with but I haven't noticed a change in behaviour from people. I'll have to try at work and see how it goes. I really hope it isn't a scam and that there are real pheromones in there.
lalalatina
01-10-2006, 06:43 PM
I used primal and passion together. Definite change. Guys are more aggressive and handsy though. I have been told to keep dancing until they say stop, I had one man staying at my neck the entire time sniffing it HEAVILY. Then he proceeds to tell me he could inhale me all night long. I proceeded to make an additonal $600 off of him. I gave some to a friend of mine who was having a rough night (combo of primal and passion) and she made $500 off one guy ALONE. He kept telling her how he was so addicted to her and how he felt like he was a drug addict and she was crack. I also will tell you that combo makes you feel more sexual, and sensual, so that's a plus as well since many of the women we work with have such bad attitudes. I just received Cleo and I'll be working with it next week. Not impressed with Pure Instinct at all. The Primal/passion combo is the way to go. I also added a light oil just to smell nice. This also helps me to convince a man to use cash instead of funny money too, because they're so into you, they are willing to do whatever it takes! I'll post a report.
DancerWealth
01-10-2006, 06:56 PM
Personally, I think this pheremone thing is a bunch of crap. I saw a recent show that did a double-blind test on these things and showed that they worked no better or worse than purfume without the pheremones. It all comes down to what smells good on you. If you really want to see if it works, do a double-blind test.
Have someone go and get two different purfumes. One with the "pheremones" and one without and don't let them tell you which is which. Do a test over 20 working nights and have them, at random, administer the different purfumes on you using a random selection system. (throwing "Purfume A" and "Purfume B" in a hat so to speak). At the end of the 20 working nights, see if there is a pattern. Supposedly, the pheremone purfume nights should be higher than the non pheremone nights. Of course this is not a true scientific test as there are so many other factors that make you income other than purfume (your selling methods, clusters of regulars, etc.) but this should at least give you a good start. My bet is, there will be no conclusive evidence that the pheremones do a damn thing.
Paintbaby
01-10-2006, 10:33 PM
They work. Quality makes all the difference. What brand did this double-blind study investigate? I can guarentee it wasn't Primal or Cleo. Both of these products are also unscented.
DancerWealth
01-11-2006, 01:19 AM
Claiming they work doesn't make it so. What scientific research has been done to show that these products actually work other than just people saying they do. I think these things are just a bunch of quackery and nonsense with a lot of great hype and promotions. Versus a placebo, I'd really like to see the effects of these "pheremones" in a scientific process. If you hype up something enough people will believe anything. Full moons, you name it. It reminds me of a scientific test I saw done on acupuncture once.
The testing group hired an actor who has never practiced acupuncture in his life. He has never peen a patient and knew nothing about the process. They had a professional acupuncturist teach him how to administer the needles safely so that nobody would get hurt, but no instruction was given as to where to administer the needles for what type of acupuncture result.
They then got several test patients all suffering from some sort of malody...mostly pain related things, joint pain, headaches, etc. They told these people that they would be participating in a study being done at the university for a paper on acupuncture and that the acupuncturist was one of the top people in the world for curing pain with acupuncture. The subjects were brought into a doctor's office, and the acupuncturist walked into the lobby wearing a lab coat, a name tag that said, "Doctor" on it etc. He brought the subjects in and administered the needles in completely random places. Remember, he has NO IDEA what he's doing, but he gives the illusion that he does. The result? Virtually every patient left saying that he cured the of their ills. My belief is that these pheremones will produce the same result.
My bet is that no scientific data has ever been truly collected on these items and no proof of their clames has ever met any real expectations. People believe it because they want to believe it. You dab a little behind your ear and you go out, have an above average night, and believe it was the "pheremones" working rather than your own higher level of self-confidence because you belive you have a magic potion working for you. Any way you look at it, my bet is that these "pheremones" for sale is nothing more than a scam.
If Cleo and Primal are both unscented, this would make a double-blind test even easier. Have someone administer the test using water in one bottle and one of these "pheremones" in the other. Again, don't have them tell you which is which, have them administer it on you in the same places each night, and have the samples drawn randomly each night. If you really want to be scientific about, have a third party not in contact with either of you label "Bottle A" and "Bottle B" whereas only they would know the real identities of the contents. This will prevent the administer of the contents from accidentally tipping you off as to their contents. Do the test over several weeks and see which has a better result. I'd be willing to go on record and say that you will have no significant result of the pheremone nights as opposed to the placebo nights is the test were spread out over a fair amount of time.
colleen
01-11-2006, 01:21 AM
ACtually, I don't even care if it is all placebo effect. SO what? Whatever the means, the end is the same. I would not have made half as much tonight if not for the primal instinct. THat bottle pays for itself every night I work.
Funny, one of my semi-regs who is relly a sucker for the stuff was in last night, with a stuffed-up nose. He wanted nothing to do with me. Tonight he was back with a clear head, and bought 6 dances.
When a model or "tester" is wearingy a modest amount of pheremone and standing as far from somebody as you would in a normal convo, maybe it does not make a big difference. but I PROMISE you that wehn you smear it on, then get one inch form the guy and literally stick his nose in it, it DOES make a difference.
To anybody who might be thinking this is some kind of cure-all for sales issues, I want to make clear, that is not the case. Since I started using the pheremone, I have not noticed any increase in the percentage of sales I close. My closing success is still directly related to how well I pitch. What I do notice is tha once I start dancing, my average # of dances has about doubled. I also get more spontaneous tips.
PLEASE do not think a tiny bottle of pheremone is going to replace good old-fashioned sales skills, because IT WILL NOT!
DancerWealth
01-11-2006, 01:27 AM
PLEASE do not think a tiny bottle of pheremone is going to replace good old-fashioned sales skills, because IT WILL NOT!
Well put.
lares
01-11-2006, 01:41 AM
well i just ordered some....primal instinct. how long does it take to get here from pheremonesandmore if you use free shipping?
angelina
01-11-2006, 01:52 AM
They're super quick. I got mine within a week!
lalalatina
01-11-2006, 12:02 PM
I agree. It does not replace any sales techniques you'll need to use, but it makes is EASIER. I have noticed how much more relaxed and in touch with myself when I use it. It does makes a difference when a customer comes in close contact with you. I will never stop using this.
Paintbaby
01-11-2006, 12:20 PM
All I know is this. I'm not a dancer and I use pheromones .I have seen a difference in the way men act around me when I am wearing them, versus when I am not. I have seen a difference in my lover's sexual response when I wear them ,versus when I am not. I register the effectiveness of the pheromones by gauging the behaviour of the men around me--these men are not aware I am using pheromones, and it is their behaviour that is affected. I have seen the proof, and they do work.
Domwolf
01-14-2006, 10:46 AM
I got this Pheromone for Men Dram of amazon, it's ike 13 bucks just to try, it's a really small bottle, but........ just a bit and wow, it works jaja. I live in the domican republic so with the heat i made the idea it would not work but i must say, the smell of it is very atractive to women and the Pheromone works.
I also got a bar of soap to.
I have been using it for 2 weeks now and my wife has been smother to deal with and the dancers at my club ( not that i ever had a problem with them) are more docile with me and even at the bank the female tellers are sweeter.
Pheromone works.......jaja
I just orderd some of the female version for the dancers , for the waitresses and why not even the bartender (even if he is a guys, might get hime more tips jaja).
I would have never tried if not for this fourm, Thanks Guys.
Dom 8)
AngelEyezXYZ
01-14-2006, 10:56 AM
We should make a poll about this just so we can see in a percentage form how well it works. I just don't feel like making it.
StrpClbOwnr
01-14-2006, 11:17 AM
I use pheromones too. I have a bottle of Androstenene, and the stuff works great.
When I wear it at work(still working day job until the club opens) women compliment me on it and tend to get a little closer than normal. I also notice that other men tend to allow me to take the lead more often - kind of like it says to them that I am the alpha male. I have a much higher sales rate with female customers, about 85% of my sales are to women, and they tend not to question me as much.
At home, my wife is nicer while I'm wearing it, and she is definitely more "touchy", hugging me more frequently and putting her nose near the places where I put the cologne on. If I put a little on before bed, she is more likely to initiate sex than if I am not wearing it. I have other colognes that she likes, but her response to them is more like enjoying the scent of a candle - she likes it, but it doesn't turn her on.
Pheromones definitely work, but they aren't magic, they just give you an edge. They won't make an unattractive person appear beautiful, and they won't turn a bad salesperson into a good one. But they will help above average people do very well.
DancerWealth
01-14-2006, 11:53 AM
Just out of curiosity...here's a test for everyone. Assuming these pheremones work, do another simple experiment.
Guys, apply the unscented pheremones for men and women for women. If they work, all the guys should get hit on by other guys all night and women by women, right?
StrpClbOwnr
01-14-2006, 01:12 PM
Just out of curiosity...here's a test for everyone. Assuming these pheremones work, do another simple experiment.
Guys, apply the unscented pheremones for men and women for women. If they work, all the guys should get hit on by other guys all night and women by women, right?
That wouldn't work. They need to blend with your own pheromones. And they won't make someone who is unattractive appear attractive. So a man who isn't attracted to other men wouldn't be affected, and a woman who isn't attracted to other women wouldn't be affected.
They are a booster, not a magic potion. The women here that are using them are attractive to begin with, it just gives them an edge.
I have good results when I wear them around my wife. We have been married for almost 10 years, so obviously she is at least somewhat attracted to me. But I notice she is a little more frisky when I wear the pheromones.
Domwolf
01-14-2006, 01:25 PM
i agree with StrpClbOwnr, it does not make you any hotter or sexier, it'a kind of hard to explain, you just become more comfortable to be around.
Women let there guard down easier and you get a shot to show who you are , if you are a jerk she will leave, if you are a nice guy she will stay. But the Pheromone just gives you that extra minute or two you need.
With my wife ( i have been with here for 12 years ) she has been more comfortable resting on my chest, and has been more complacent when we talk.
Hey but thats just my experience.
lalalatina
01-16-2006, 11:47 AM
It's not about attraction. When I put on the pheremones, men are not walking to me like zombies. They perk up a little when in close contact with you, and that makes the sales transaction a little easier. Once your sales hook has worked on them, the pheremones helps keep the ball rolling. Once i sold a couple of dances, they can't stop smelling my neck, i get no problems going to the champagne room, it makes it EASIER, especially in the slows month of january. I still read sales books and look for mor advice here because you can't shove your neck in his first when doing your pitch, but I make it a point to put on pheremones everytime I work. I put some on my friend and it works. I also put on the pheremone laced lotion, laced all my other lotions with pheremones as well.