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angelina
01-16-2006, 01:28 PM
I heard of a trick where you dip your finger in your vagina and put it behind or ears+other pulse points to spread your natural pheromones. I wonder if that works too. Anyone willing to try it with me? I'm for whatever gets them coming back.

Ebony
01-16-2006, 11:14 PM
Alright I'm sold! I'm buying some tomorrow. I do very well at the club I work at so this wouldn't hurt. I will do an experiment. The first 3 weeks of the year I will work with out the pheromones. Then for 3 other weeks I will work with it and monitor my results.

DancerWealth
01-17-2006, 01:44 AM
Alright I'm sold! I'm buying some tomorrow. I do very well at the club I work at so this wouldn't hurt. I will do an experiment. The first 3 weeks of the year I will work with out the pheromones. Then for 3 other weeks I will work with it and monitor my results.

This isn't really a good test because you have an automatic bias. If you want to do a truly accurate test, have a friend at the club have one bottle of water (bottle A) and one bottle with the pheromones (bottle B). Each night, she will flip a coin where heads represents one bottle and tails the other. She will then administer the proper sample and make a log of it. This is called a double-blind test and is a way of eliminating you from the equasion of possibly subconsciously adjusting the results. At the end of six weeks, if the pheromones work, you will see a demonstrable result on the nights it was applied without your knowledge. My hunch is you will have no better result with this than you would with random chance.

If you want to conduct a true double-blind test though with more accuracy, have one person flip the coin and log it and a second person administer bottle A or B without knowledge of which is which. This way you make it as close to a scientific test as possible, but that might be asking for a lot.

One thin I've noticed on virtually all of these pheromone products is that they say "Scientific" or "Scientifically Proven" as buzz-words but not one of them has any actual scientific studies published on their websites. While this doesn't surprise me as I'm skeptical of them, it should at least be something to consider when buying them. After all, if these products were proven to work under scientific scrutiny, you would think they would scream it from tallest mountain, but they don't. So out of curiosity for those of you are more farmilliar with these products, has any of them undergone any independent study to validate their effectiveness? I just searched through pages and pages of websites for these different products and I couldn't find one.

thechaosfairy
01-18-2006, 05:24 AM
Page fulla links:

http://pherolibrary.com/reference/pheromone-research.htm

Assorted abstracts on assorted pages from here. :-)

I don't know why the people selling these things don't actually link to the research -- but then, the website where I buy my Tonalin CLA doesn't link to the medline abstracts I had to read before I was willing to take it. (Very cautious about new supplements, I am.)

colleen
01-19-2006, 02:38 AM
Does anybody eles nitice that you have more lickers wehn you wear it? Guys seem to want to lick the stuff right off me!

lares
01-19-2006, 06:33 PM
just got mine yesterday. i tired it on my boyfriend. fifteen minutes after i put it on we were eating out...and he said like 10 times in a row "i love you". That is not normal for him. he also kept trying to nibble my ears. no noticeable affects on other men when we went to the mall. hopefully this stuff will help me at work since i am a newbie and need as much help as possible. Oh and last time I worked I tried the "fluids" test. lots of guys were giving me money for just talking to them (20 bucks each). and a guy i met that night came back the next day for a dance and gave me 100 bucks! wohoo!

lares
01-19-2006, 07:35 PM
hey do you think you can include pheremones as a deduction for your taxes?

Malibu
01-20-2006, 01:42 AM
I have been reading this thread for a while.

Some scienctific tests have reported that this can be a hit or miss because men will like you more if your pheromones are more 'opposite' than theirs (something to do with differences in HLA genetic make-up which can be subtly detected through sweat/pheromones). If your pheromones are quite similar to someone elses (e.g. a custy) and you're enhancing them using pheromones, this may not work in your favour. However, there is a lot of debate about how effective pheromones REALLY are. Personally, I still remain to be convinced. So many other factors come into play that I do not believe that pheromones will ultimately determine your income.

Besides, I stick to the food smells. You can always anchor them on that because when they smell it somewhere else, they'll be instantly reminded of you.

Still, keep reporting back. I want to see how you all are getting on.

colleen
01-22-2006, 01:16 AM
So many other factors come into play that I do not believe that pheromones will ultimately determine your income.



Bingo!

The pheremones are just ONE weapon in your arsenal, along with cute costumes, awesome makeup, and mainly a KILLER sales presentation. They do NOT sell dances for you. THey do help you turn one dance into 2, 4 dances into 6, 5 minutes of conversation into a $20 tip, and so on.

It's not like you can walk in in your jeans, slap some pheremones behind your ears, and make a million $$. I still have crappy days when I couldn't sell a dance to a boatload of drunken sailors, costume flops, makeup fiascos, sudden-onset colds, and all the rest. Some days I don't make shit. But my bet days have gotten better, starting the week I got the pheremones in the mail, and my worst days are a litle less sucky, financially.

Placebo effect? Fine with me. Whatever it is, bring it on!

StrpClbOwnr
01-22-2006, 07:47 AM
I did a little experiment last night.

I put some pheromone cologne on my neck and wrists about 10 minutes before going to bed. I let it mix with my pheromones for about 5 minutes, and then rubbed my wrists across my wife's pillow. Then I laid down and acted as I normally do.

My wife finished brushing her teeth and came to bed. After she lay down, I could hear her inhaling. She started audibley sniffing. Her comment: "I love your cologne.". After a few minutes she got touchy and rolled over on top of me. She kept smelling my cologne, and commenting on it while she ran her hands up and down my body.

She kept nuzzling and kissing the two spots on my neck where I put the cologne on. She was extremely aroused and very passionate and we ended up going at it for over 2 hours. The best sex we've had in years.

Some notes:
1. This is the first time that she has initiated sex since she was trying to get pregnant - over 4 years ago. I've had to initiate it since.

2. I was careful not to act like I wanted sex until after she was all over me. I laid there with her on top of me until she took my hand and and placed it on her privates.

3. Since I got the new bottle a week or so ago, she has been more complimentary of me and hasn't been picking as many fights.

4. This is the first time I have put it on near bed time. The latest I had previously put them on was at dinner time. My guess is the effectiveness fades within an hour or so.

5. Other women have been more flirtatious since I started wearing pheromones.

These pheromones appear to work.

cinammonkisses
01-22-2006, 09:15 AM
Some days I don't make shit. But my bet days have gotten better, starting the week I got the pheremones in the mail, and my worst days are a litle less sucky, financially.


The days I tend to not make any money are the times I 4get to wear the stuff...Doh' /:O

whirlerz
01-22-2006, 12:38 PM
it's soooo strong, I swoon when I read these posts...;)

lalalatina
01-22-2006, 12:40 PM
Yeah, I don't make shit sometimes with the pheremones on, and that's my point. These things are meant to enhance your performance, not replace it. Having the right attitude and a good sales pitch will take you over the edge. I made the mistake of thinking the pheremones will do all the work for me, but even if the guy is feeling you like crazy, it doesn't make it easier for him to communicate it. You still have to take the initiative and close the sale.

thopp6969
01-23-2006, 05:08 PM
Hello all... Sorry this is coming from a man But my wife is just starting out and has comissioned me to dig up as much info as I can for her. Anyhow tonight is her 3rd night in a gentlemens club (ever). Last night it was slow and she made $165. Today she picked up some "pure instinct" and read some of he other info found in the "hustle hut". We are hoping all goes well and thanks for being here with all the great info. She'll let you all know how it went in a few nights.

MoneyLover
01-23-2006, 08:17 PM
OK soo heres the report and results on usage. Ive been using it everytime i got to work and it seems to make me somewhat more attractive to some men, and they spend more money on me, however...if i put on more than 2 drops it has the reverse effect, so I cant use to much! I dont kno if it has improved anything drastically..oh well.

luckischalk
01-23-2006, 10:02 PM
This sounds very interesting, like everyone else I think I am going to buy some.

Ebony
01-23-2006, 10:51 PM
Well I ordered it and got it fast. I got the Primal and Passion Coupin Concentrate together. Can anyone give me an idea of how to use them? Do I put them on together? Should I even wear my other favorite perfume (that the guys absolutly love by the way) when I wear the phermones? Thanks

lalalatina
01-24-2006, 11:51 AM
Use Primal and passion together. Like two drops primal over neck and clevage, Passion on wrists and elbows and behind neck. Do not use too much,nothing will happen, as I have learned the hard way ($100 when everyone is making $600).

Ebony
01-24-2006, 12:20 PM
I can't wait to get to work tonight.. I'm just going to were the phermones alone tonight and not wear any other perfume. I will post a report tonight when I get home.

bunnylove
01-26-2006, 07:17 AM
Hi..... I am new to this website but not new to dancing. I have been curious about pheremones for some time now, but really didn't know enough about them. I will say this much thogh; it was mentioned on the first page of this thread that a womans pheremones are increased durring her period. I can deffinetly attest to this. my best nights are on the first two days of mt period. It's amazing, actually... I make more money those nights than ANY other night, hands down. I am a little wary of actually trying real or artificial pheremones after reading this thread, because I really don't need "wierd" customers. I don't like toungues on me and all of that, and I get it anyways all the time. I am wondering about the Placebo effect that is mentioned here. I think there may be some truth to that after reading this whole thread; either way, whatever makes you feel sexy wil in fact sell you more dances, and that's just a simple fact. If you are more comfortable and confident, customers will be more apt to spend on you.... just my opinion.........

on the vanilla scent note, I wear a pure vanilla at work. It's like a resin, and turns yellow on your skin, so I have to wear it behing my ears so my hair will cover it. real vanilla is kinda pricey, about 40 bucks for a very, very small bottle that will actually last quite some time. It doesn't take much, just a drop split between the backs of both ears. I like to mix it with pure rose exract(also very pricey, and don't use to much, a little goes a very long way). It doesn't attarct everyone, but it attracts those that are deffinetly willing to spend........ In my case, anyway..... I will keep watching this thread, as I am extremely curious to see how they actually work. I won't lie, I am a skeptic, and if I bought some pheremones, I would want to do a double blind test.......

anyway ladies, thanks for all the very interesting and cool info....... meow kittens....... :-*

Ebony
01-26-2006, 01:28 PM
Alright tried the phermones the two days that I worked and nothing really changed. I didn't notice any significant change in how many dances I got or how much I was tipped. BUT this week has been the slowest ever. The first three weeks of the year I was doing fantastic every night. I will continue to use it though and chart my findings. Oh and no one tried to lick or grab me more than usual.

StevieStar7
01-26-2006, 02:25 PM
Hey! iwas wondering how you get the sparkley name and your astrological sign on there?.....thanks!

pissymissy
01-26-2006, 06:32 PM
http://www.pherotones.com

ha ha, would be cool if it worked and you are a phone sex op.

babydolly
04-06-2006, 06:21 AM
Tried it with pure instinct
2 weeks on...
2 weeks off
2 weeks on
Absolutly no change in my little diary of responses and earnings.
They seem to like the smell of Realm by erox... But it reminds me of toothache remedy jukk.
Cant bear to have it on my skin anymore!!

Pretty_Penny
04-06-2006, 09:21 PM
i know it sounds creepy, but i've read many times that the reason men respond well to food scents is because it reminds them of their mother and domestic things in general.

tampafldancer
04-06-2006, 09:44 PM
i thought it worked well at first... but came to find out it was a flop.. I made better money without it

babydolly
04-07-2006, 05:55 AM
I`m gonna try one more...Next 2 weeks without and the following 2 weeks with again.
Personally I found women edgy and custys more inclined to sarcasm and aggression when I`m wearing it.
Some posts mention not wearing too much?
Can anybody expand on this for me please?
Statistics ladies and gentlemen? xxx thanks xxx

Alexis81
04-07-2006, 06:31 AM
I ordered some off ebay but I am incrediably inpatient so if anyone knows of a store in the Tampa/Clearwater/St Pete area that sells it please let me know.

Alexis81
04-09-2006, 11:20 PM
Just an FYI if anyone still reads this thread. I tried out Realm this past weeked and literally doubled my money. I am so freakin happy (and drunk) right now.

Lysondra
04-26-2006, 12:46 AM
I just got in Pure Instict and will be wearing it tonight and updating once I get back. :D

cinammonkisses
04-26-2006, 06:32 AM
Hey, how much are you girls using? Sheesh, I'm already down to half a bottle, and I've only been dancing 3 weeks!!!!!!

Awwwwwwww mines all gone! I think I'm going to try a new brand this time around.

cinammonkisses
04-26-2006, 06:36 AM
Just an FYI if anyone still reads this thread. I tried out Realm this past weeked and literally doubled my money. I am so freakin happy (and drunk) right now.

Ok, I'm on ebay right now. Is realm a perfume or a pheremone?? /:O

Alexis81
04-27-2006, 07:44 AM
Its a pheremone perfume. I actually found it in a perfume store.

Anastacia79
04-27-2006, 12:51 PM
I heard that fresh donuts and black licorice is the smell to use, 9don't remember where I read this...)

Lysondra
04-27-2006, 09:49 PM
1. My boyfriend won't get OFF me now!!! O_O "You're so pretty...awww...so pretty... what DID you do today?!"

2. All men are much more docile but IN LOVE with me now. Like, not HUMPHUMPLUST but "Can I buy you shitloads of jewelry and sit down with you and pet your hair?!" love!!!! :D

Sweet!

Zoe_en_Australie
04-29-2006, 12:01 AM
2. All men are much more ... "Can I buy you shitloads of jewelry and sit down with you and pet your hair?!" love!!!! :D

Sweet!

Dude, my regular last night told me I needed an anklet...haha I said yes I did. He's buying me one, lol!

AND he didn't want me to dance, but just sit there with him. Usually he likes some of each, but....yeah. So maybe they were working for me, but in kind of a more subtle way than for you the first night you wore em at work...

Maybe I *will* get some... :O

Lysondra
04-29-2006, 04:25 AM
^^ You can use mine until yours comes in. :)

thechaosfairy
04-29-2006, 05:13 AM
I'm currently using Passion Copulin Concentrate and it seems to be working pretty well although I mean to order more Scent of Eros/F next time I have a chance, that stuff worked even better.

It seems to work well for me to enhance female scent (copulins) and social scent (androstenol) rather than upping the sex and dominance markers. I apparently smell dominant enough all by myself. :-)

Rayna Skye
06-12-2006, 06:45 PM
This is the simplest thing I've learned, that makes me money, and get's me gifts.

Men like sweet smells, or smells they can identify with right off the bat, like fruit smells. if you smell like apples, when they see or smell apples, they'll think of you.

I used to wear pear. It doesn't smell like a pear, but it smells sweet. When I'd sit on a guys lap, they'd always always keeps smelling me, and sometimes I charge them for that.

I have a friend who wears vanilla. These guys came in to see her after they'd had ice cream, because the smell of it made them think of her.

I no longer wear perfume but spray on deodorant, baby powder. It keeps the sweat down, and I smell very clean. I always try to shower ever two hours on a busy night, and the spray the deodorant over my whole body. I smell clean and fresh. When I go to sit on some guys lap they comment on how clean I smell, and how the last girl was sweaty. I get the dance the sweaty girl didn't :-*

scarlett_vancouver
06-13-2006, 02:41 AM
You shower every two hours at work?

GoldCoastGirl
06-13-2006, 07:44 AM
Yeh, how DO you find the time to shower? I personally could not do that even if a shower was offered at work since it would take up to an hour out of my time to have that shower including re-dressing, re-doing my make-up etc. I just can't have short showers and having my hair wet is annoying (I prefer to not use a blow dryer.. even if I did.. it would take quite awhile due to the length of my hair).

Tho' I do agree with using spray on deoderant. I also spray it on my nipples/aerolas since that is a 'sweat gland' as such. It helps permeate (sp?) the odour of the spray on. I personally try to stick with vanilla or baby powder smells as well.

Bridgette
06-13-2006, 09:55 AM
Dude, showering every 2 hours at work would cause me to make LESS money because I'd be spending precious lapdance time underwater. I hustle constantly so this is definitely not a good thing for me. Besides, guys are always telling me how hot it is when I get sweaty :P

cherry_sin
06-13-2006, 10:35 AM
Just on the random topic of deodorant and perfume, I wear a sweet watermelon/strawberry like perfume, and I just found out that Lday Speed stick makes a deoderant called fruity blast, which matches.

Since I rub it on the bikini area to stop ingrowns, too, I smell all.... yummy.

Ahhhh... heaven.

Rayna Skye
06-13-2006, 10:24 PM
Well, I said I "TRY" to shower ever two hours, and only when it's busy. I guess it also helps that we have a shower in the middle of our club, and the custmers throw money in to watch us. But I do go in the back and shower mostly. It only takes twenty minutes to shower dry off, and get back on the floor, and usally at the point when I take these showers, I've already made some money. It also helps me to be off of the floor for a while.

When the guys don't see you, they wonder where you've been, and they think that some other guy has been taking your time. Sometimes I say I've been with a vip. The think I meant the room, but I meant me. Few times that has mad them want to go back there with me. That has worked for me 5 time so far.

buffie06
06-14-2006, 11:20 AM
Dont know if this applies to this thread but I recently started using the cotton candy body spray from WAL MART and WOW , guys love it. It seems it's like a childhood memory scent, b/c throughout my dances they will comment or just keep smelling me. Personally I wouldn't normally wanna smell like that, but a girlfriend told me the same thing Im telling you and they love it. It especially works when Im on stage and they come up to tip me, the comment on it and I usually end up doing alot more dances than normal.

SilverSaturn0
06-20-2006, 10:58 PM
I don't wear pheremone or glitter when I work. Some guys have wives/girlfriends to go home to and they want to be undercover about it. Or if I do wear pheremone I just use a spray. I've watched girls spray pheremone on them until they are wet and it makes me gag almost. Also when I did a research paper, in high school, on aromatherapy I learned that guys are attracted to the scent of cotton candy and apple because it makes them think of the fair and good times. Something.

Nichole
06-22-2006, 04:42 PM
I have that Pure Instinct on my website. I have used it myself also. It has a really nice floral scent. I'll try wearing it work tonight and see how it goes!

MinahSky
07-06-2006, 05:04 AM
I just wanted to thank you all for this thread. Work has been going SO much better (along with the rest of my life) since I started with the pheromones. Right now I am using Pure Instinct until my Primal Instinct gets here. Everyone around me is easier to deal with, it's amazing. If the Pure does this, I can't imagine what the Primal will do... Even the ladies that I work with that are usually mean to me have been eating out of my hand since using this it.

Minette
07-28-2006, 01:07 PM
Are the ladies using phermones still feeling like it has made a difference in their money? Has anyone tried a different kind than they were using before and noticed a difference? Has anyone else tried them and noticed a difference?

cinammonkisses
07-31-2006, 08:04 AM
Well when I first started, I used the Pure Instinct. Personally I thougth it worked..Somepeople ruined my dream and said I wasn't doing well bc of the Pure Instinct, but because I was a new face in the club...I still wanna believe it was the pheromone though. Maybe I should buy another bottle. This time, I'll try the primal...I dunno.