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Nicolina
06-23-2006, 04:06 PM
I'm not sure if this is what he's getting at, but here goes:
If you could take your SC stripper experience out of yourself and re-enter the SC world for the first time, but with a dick and a bunch of testosterone, how do you think you'd act?
That's too hard. I was a teenager when I started dancing, and even though I already knew a lot about my sexual psychology at the time, I feel that my experiences in the sex industry are so integral to who I've become as a person that I really couldn't begin to tease that out of my psyche. (Why do you think I eschew interaction with normal folks in the real world in favor of sharing my oh-so-penetrating commentary with this motley crew of virtual SCJ's here on the board? )
So, I have no idea how I would behave if I were a completely different person with a completely different background. Like I said, I was just working with my own psychology as it is now. And even though (or quite possibly because) it has been influenced by my tenure as a stripper, I decided that, if I were a guy, I'd likely be a mix of Sporty and mr. punk.
Jenny decided she's probably be TOO, and gave some very sound reasons why that choice made sense. I don't understand why mr. p. is giving her a hard time over it. (except that he obviously has a huge hard-on for her ::). As do we all, I might add. As do we all.)
I think most of the regulars evolved over time into certain personas.
Definitely. That's why I allowed multiple responses on the poll, to allow for combinations and the inevitable morphing from one into another over time....
There are no right answers here, people. It's just a fun little mindgame. The kind of thing I idly ponder while running errands...
Susan Wayward
06-23-2006, 04:26 PM
^Yes.
The exercise is for us females to imagine ourselves as guys, but without changing our own psychology or personality traits too drastically.
Susan talked about her MO as a female customer, but that's a different thing, I think.
Weeeeeelllllll, I don't really spend a lot of time imagining how I'd be different if I were a guy, just how I'd look different, maybe. If I were a dude I would probably be the really nervous and PC kind who was worried about objectifying the strippers in a club, but would secretly call hookers during dry spells and buy porn. Like just about every guy I ever dated. Also, I would probably think it was a waste of time to get worked up and not have sex. Unless my personality trait of enjoying being teased carried over in my hypothetical XY life.
All Good Things
06-23-2006, 07:09 PM
I should probably let him speak on this for himself, though. I don't want to overstep my bounds here. As I said, I just wanted to share some observations.
My most beautiful girl, I could not possibly improve on your description of my m.o. in the slightest. You know me so well -- in fact, you know me as only the woman who has sole and complete ownership of my mind, my soul and every sexual urge, fantasy, obsession and dark-side perversion in my mind could possibly know me.
In your synopsis of me, "generosity" was the only nod to money, while all the rest of the description really focused on making people happy. It's inevitable, I suppose, that the money becomes the focus of discussion as the discriminating factor, because, admittedly, it tends to be over the top and money is a powerful force in the SC equation. We can't seem to get away from it.
But any reader of the StripperFest Vegas thread, for example, would learn right away that the money was never a discriminating factor in my personality or behavior, as several posters who were there in Vegas pointed out in that thread. Lots of things would certainly happen -- hotel suites were booked, VIP suites were opened, the rooms would fill with dancers, the limos arrived on time and ran us all over the city, alcohol and food was provided, dance club skyboxes became available and were paid for -- but absolutely none of this was visible or commented on or attached to me in any way. It isn't who I am. Just like in an SC, it was the environment I was creating to make sure that everybody was having fun and whatever evolved in that scenario, even Bridgette sticking her ass out the back of the limo at 3:00 AM on the Strip, was one of the crazy benefits. These are events that none of us will really ever forget. Plus, we have a tradition to uphold, damnit!
Anyway, the voting still looks evenly tied between Sporty, JZ/Genwar and me, each of us with a mere three votes, so there can't be that many dancers so impressed with my m.o. to think it would appeal to them if they were to suddenly morph into male customers.
Note: it looks like Ev just put Sporty in first place.
evan_essence
06-23-2006, 07:28 PM
Yeah, this is hard because it's so speculative. Honestly, if you injected my personality with a shot of testosterone, I think I'd be somewhere in the CP/Sporty range. I think I'd be some combination of a sly devil-may-care operator like CP and a fox-in-the-henhouse manipulator like Sporty. I don't think I'd be Mr. P because I'd crave the interaction of trying to mess with the dancers' heads as much as they were trying to mess with mine, instead of simply doing straightforward business.
-Ev
evan_essence
06-23-2006, 07:51 PM
You know me so well -- in fact, you know me as only the woman who has sole and complete ownership of my mind, my soul and every sexual urge, fantasy, obsession and dark-side perversion in my mind could possibly know me.Cut that s#*+ out on here. If I have to watch you two make out, let it be during a private session. :P }:D
-Ev
Vyanka
06-23-2006, 08:02 PM
Cut that s#*+ out on here. If I have to watch you two make out, let it be during a private session. :P }:D
-Ev
I was just thinking that I really do like how those two talk to each other. ;D
mr_punk
06-23-2006, 11:21 PM
I'm not sure if this is what he's getting at, but here goes: If you could take your SC stripper experience out of yourself and re-enter the SC world for the first time, but with a dick and a bunch of testosterone, how do you think you'd act?no. i don't think it makes much of a difference. the end result will be the same.
I feel that my experiences in the sex industry are so integral to who I've become as a person that I really couldn't begin to tease that out of my psyche.exactly, which is why the above isn't my point.
Jenny decided she's probably be TOO, and gave some very sound reasons why that choice made sense. I don't understand why mr. p. is giving her a hard time over it. (except that he obviously has a huge hard-on for her . As do we all, I might add. As do we all.)Et tu, Nic? man, you biatches really do stick together. look, i'm not giving her a hard time. in fact, i agreed with her in her response to RH. lastly, i don't have a hard-on for her. however, i do have a size 3 combat boot with her name on it.
Oh, it does. What are you getting at, mr. p?i already stated my point. like i said, "it's sounds like the kind of answers one would expect from a stripper. if she had that kind of control over the transaction". IOW, since you (ie: the stripper) can't separate the two. i would expect you to sound more like a stripper pretending to be your ideal of a customer rather than a SCJ.
evan_essence
06-24-2006, 01:20 AM
I was just thinking that I really do like how those two talk to each other. ;DBut this is Blue! We don't get lovelorn here!!
Hahaha. You knew I was kidding, and I knew you knew when I joked with you after you had joked with me. Or sumthing.
-Ev
evan_essence
06-24-2006, 01:24 AM
IOW, since you (ie: the stripper) can't separate the two. i would expect you to sound more like a stripper pretending to be your ideal of a customer rather than a SCJ.If I had thought in that vein, I would have answered JZ/Gen.
-Ev
SportsWriter2
06-24-2006, 02:05 AM
I think I'd be some combination of a sly devil-may-care operator like CP and a fox-in-the-henhouse manipulator like Sporty. I don't think I'd be Mr. P because I'd crave the interaction of trying to mess with the dancers' heads as much as they were trying to mess with mine, instead of simply doing straightforward business.
Interesting point, Ev, because the interaction makes a big difference. A favorite once told me, "If you were a dancer, you'd make all the money, and you wouldn't even be the dirtiest."
Vyanka
06-24-2006, 07:50 AM
But this is Blue! We don't get lovelorn here!!
Hahaha. You knew I was kidding, and I knew you knew when I joked with you after you had joked with me. Or sumthing.
-Ev
I know, but I love it. lol
Lyssa Lynn
06-24-2006, 12:41 PM
Based on your synopses, I voted mr_punk. That is how I feel when I buy dances now, can't imagine it would be much different as a man.
Nicolina
06-24-2006, 01:31 PM
Cut that s#*+ out on here. If I have to watch you two make out, let it be during a private session. :P }:D
-Ev
Oooooh, a private session? TOO says: Just name the city and he'll fly you in. }:D
;)
How 'bout...Rio de Janeiro??
Nicolina
06-24-2006, 01:44 PM
I know, but I love it. lol
awww, thanks Vy. :)
But it's a good thing he's got that Evil Side that no one else knows.
Trust me, when we're together I end up choking on something other than cloying sweetness. ;D
Nicolina
06-24-2006, 02:04 PM
Yeah, this is hard because it's so speculative.
I know. The mental gymnastics are interesting, though. Like, it would never occur to me that I'd be submissive as a guy. Because it seems to me that the immutable thing about my psychology is not that I'm submissive but that I get off on images of male domination and female submission. Therefore, I just assume that, as a guy, I'd be a dom.
I suppose other people might do the gymastics differently and come to the opposite conclusion.
Honestly, if you injected my personality with a shot of testosterone, I think I'd be somewhere in the CP/Sporty range. I think I'd be some combination of a sly devil-may-care operator like CP and a fox-in-the-henhouse manipulator like Sporty. I don't think I'd be Mr. P because I'd crave the interaction of trying to mess with the dancers' heads as much as they were trying to mess with mine, instead of simply doing straightforward business.
Brilliant.
Ev, you always manage to show me up as a writer. It is so fucking hot. 8)
Great thread...thanks for kicking it off nic ;D
If I could post tangentally for a minute, I want to say I had no idea that TOO had that kind of money. Well, if figured he did alright and spent but not to the exent described above! Holy mackeral...reading that was like failing a self-esteem, "I think Im a High Roller" sobriety test :O
~side note: TOO...please stay out of podunk Ohio...if Miss D gets wind of your existence, I am toast ~ ;)
So I guess if I could come back in some future Junkie life, I wouldn't mind reincarnating as someone with TOO's substance. It is fun to be generous and create times for others to enjoy and remember. The only caveat would be is that I don't think I could do it so casually and in the semi anonymous way that he does. He sort of reminds me of that dude from the 1950's "The Millionaire" TV show, John Bereford Tipton. Unlike Tipton (or TOO), if I was spending that kind of dough I would be flashy about it and expect some degree of suck-up'ness from the strippers. Which of course would ultimately motivate some dancer on some future pink site to post a thread about the arrogant customer she hates but who's money creates a siren call she can't resist.
FBR
Jenny
06-24-2006, 03:12 PM
the arrogant customer she hates but who's money creates a siren call she can't resist.
Gosh. That was just an incredibly succinct way of putting it. I shall remember this turn of phrase.
Gosh. That was just an incredibly succinct way of putting it. I shall remember this turn of phrase.
Jenny :P LOL I can turn a phrase once in a great while but I (seriously) bow to the wordsmith capabilities of quite a few of the members here. Whoda thunk that there would be so many excellent writers on a stripper site?? I mean strippers are all crackheads and custies are all perverts ;)
FBR
miabella
06-24-2006, 03:42 PM
i picked chili, because he seems to strike the best balance between respecting limits, taking the lady's lead, and getting his freak on. i am awkward enough with women when i want them now, though i am brazen as anything when getting or giving dances to women. as a guy, i'd always let the girl determine the course and reward the ones who picked up on my vibe, so to speak.
mr_punk
06-24-2006, 05:31 PM
Which of course would ultimately motivate some dancer on some future pink site to post a thread about the arrogant customer she hates but who's money creates a siren call she can't resist.LOL..c'mon, FBR. a customer doesn't need to be Tipton to inspire that kind of post.
All Good Things
06-24-2006, 10:53 PM
~side note: TOO...please stay out of podunk Ohio...if Miss D gets wind of your existence, I am toast ~
FBR, Miss D would be impossibly bored with me after her adventures with you. You will simply have to trust me on this.
The day I reach your Zen level of SC perfection, I will consider the game over and done with, and resettle on the left bank of the Seine, where Nicolina and I will spend long hours sipping glasses of Château d'YQUEM, 1er Grand Cru Classé Sauternes 1893 and text messaging Ev to join us. Well, OK, we'll sip the wine when I actually untie Nic and release her hair from my very firm and painful grip, of course.
I think we've beaten this dead horse of a money discussion half to death, so let's move on to more interesting topics, like:
1. Nicolina's ass. God's gift to humanity and my personal inspiration for living. Actually, that is an understatement. It's my only reason for living.
2. Jenny's latest trip report. Wasn't that just great? GenWar is the king of TRs, but Jenny and Nic are the undisputed Goddesses. Let's just throw out all the other options and have the next Stripperfest in Toronto. We can let Jenny and Nic write it up. (Yeah, you're right, that wasn't all what I saw Jenny and Nic doing together. )
4. The latest poll results. It seems like the girls like a little bit of everybody, but Sporty and JZ/GenWar have pulled into a solid lead.
5. I drove downtown to get my hair cut today and took a slightly different route, only to discover that I had unconsciously driven straight to the club. Does this make me a PL or just an idiot? I would have used the GPS, but damned if it doesn't have the coordinates of all the other clubs within 100 miles already programmed into it.
evan_essence
06-25-2006, 06:57 AM
Interesting point, Ev, because the interaction makes a big difference. A favorite once told me, "If you were a dancer, you'd make all the money, and you wouldn't even be the dirtiest."Well, let's not get carried away underestimating your contact levels, Mr. Sucker of Inverted Nipples.
-Ev
evan_essence
06-25-2006, 07:09 AM
Oooooh, a private session? TOO says: Just name the city and he'll fly you in. }:D ;)As tempting as that sounds, my g/f has this crazy idea that the two of us can continue to be monagomous ad naseum, er, I mean ad infinitum. I personally think she's only being that way to prove something to the fundamentalist zealots who are having affairs and/or getting divorced so universally.
Ev, you always manage to show me up as a writer. It is so fucking hot. 8)Hmmm, I would tell you to stop selling yourself short. But on second thought, if it's getting you hot, please continue to think that way.
Btw, if I do decide to give in to the temptation of flying in, does TOO have to be part of the rendevous?
Bwahahahaha. }:D
-Ev
All Good Things
06-25-2006, 12:11 PM
Btw, if I do decide to give in to the temptation of flying in, does TOO have to be part of the rendevous? -Ev
Well, of course not, it's whatever gets you off, sweetheart. I was just accommodating your request for a private rendevous with me and Nic. ;)
Change-ups can be beautiful, though. And I can see "birthday present for Nic" written all over this one. :)
Nicolina
06-25-2006, 12:25 PM
^:party2:
;D ;D ;D
Cally
06-25-2006, 12:33 PM
Hey I want in on this Jenny and Nic thing... Seeing as I lust for Jenny insanely... and well Nic is just irrisistable...
All Good Things
06-25-2006, 12:39 PM
^ The line forms to the left.
But it's winter in Rio. How about the south of France instead?
Cally
06-25-2006, 01:01 PM
Well i've already started to have my way with Jenny... seeing as I should start working with her soon *grin*
GenWar
06-25-2006, 07:22 PM
4. The latest poll results. It seems like the girls like a little bit of everybody, but Sporty and JZ/GenWar have pulled into a solid lead.
Yeah...TOO...somethin' bout that ain't right. So I started up another thread to further damage my personal reputation. I mean...I am the tortured rebel of blue ballers, right? The wierdo who doesn't do extras, believes that assholes in the Strip Club are the exception and not the rule and tells his wife everything. Methinks some of these voters have not read my extended works.
oh yeah...and one thought on the money thing...I know you wanted it dead but there is just one thing I gotta say...The biggest compliment and, simultaneously, the biggest guilt inducer, that a dancer says to me is..."Dammit. I have been sitting here all night chatting and drinking with you and I haven't made any money." This usually results in me giving her every red cent on my person (Rule #1 is NUMBER ONE after all) and then wishing that I had more. This is the only time I wish I had more means than I do. Thing is...it happens ALL the time. So I am doing something right/wrong. *sigh* /:O
-gen
P.S. I should NOT be allow to post. My mood is...odd. I will come back tomorrow and delete all of these posts.
SportsWriter2
06-25-2006, 07:41 PM
4. The latest poll results. It seems like the girls like a little bit of everybody, but Sporty and JZ/GenWar have pulled into a solid lead.
No, TOO, it's just me. JZ and GenWar have to split their take. :D
I just think it's easier for a manipulator to become another manipulator.
Casual Observer
06-26-2006, 03:51 PM
the arrogant customer she hates but who's money creates a siren call she can't resist.
I've been that guy a couple of times, and I fully admit to enjoying every friggin' minute of it, particularly with one dancer who offered OTC action and then subsequently retracted it.
In an alternate existence, I'd like to combine TOO's trademark of engaging in gratuitious, yet genuine and tasteful, financial libation to the benefit of all involved with CP's direct and unabashed interest in fetish-oriented pay-for-play and pursuit in obtaining the best performance from those most inclined to actually enjoy that type of encounter, blended with my own penchant for more aggressive and overtly brutal play.
In the meantime I'll have to settle for something less ideal, but I do OK I guess. ;)
Nicolina
06-26-2006, 03:55 PM
^Yes, CO, I didn't include you as a poll option because I thought your style probably combined the best of some of the other m.o.'s. ;)
Nicolina
06-26-2006, 04:03 PM
^ The line forms to the left.
But it's winter in Rio. How about the south of France instead?
South of France is good. Or Tuscany...
But I dunno, honey. I'm beginning to feel that Toronto is definitely in our future.
...and well Nic is just irresistable...
:-* Cally!! I'm quite sure that you, me, and Jenny could have a smashing good time. }:D
Cally
06-27-2006, 11:44 AM
Oh Nic yourself Jenny and I could DEFINATLY have more then a smashing good time ;) I've already started to have my way with Jenny but we definatly need a third hot girl in the mix and its a done deal ;) TOO can be our coach }:D
BrunetteGoddess
06-29-2006, 01:01 PM
I said JZ/Gen.
sander8son
08-17-2006, 02:01 PM
i like how im just finding this thread now, well after its death, yet i feel the need to respond. How did i not make this list? I'm royalty here, bitch.
But i guess if i was a guy, from the sounds of the descriptions i'd be sh0t.
Katrine
08-17-2006, 08:37 PM
Whoa, I missed this thread while gone, thanks for reviving it Sandychka.
I chose Yoda. I would be yoda, no contest. Why? I just like the man and his style. He gets what he wants, doesn't mind paying for it, enjoys the exotic, has enough of a good time, and doesn't have a god or manchild complex.
Honestly though, if I were just Kat in a man's body, I'd probably end up being merely_lurking, or perhaps Derek.
yoda57us
09-06-2006, 05:59 PM
Whoa, I missed this thread while gone, thanks for reviving it Sandychka.
I chose Yoda. I would be yoda, no contest. Why? I just like the man and his style. He gets what he wants, doesn't mind paying for it, enjoys the exotic, has enough of a good time, and doesn't have a god or manchild complex.
Honestly though, if I were just Kat in a man's body, I'd probably end up being merely_lurking, or perhaps Derek.
Thanks Kat, I haven't been on too much lately and just saw your response. You are too kind. You just made my night...as you often do...;)