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Nicolina
07-23-2006, 11:44 PM
It seems that the comparison here is between two sets of samples, not multiple sets of samples. Might this analysis be better served by a simple t-test?

Yeah, I guess so…but I think if you can use a t-test, you can also run a one-way ANOVA, even if you only have two sample populations. Because either way, you’re comparing the variance among and between two or more samples. Right?

As usual, though, I guess it depends on how you ask the question. If you have just two populations, "Normal" and "Stripper", and you are looking at just one trait, "Sexual Prowess," (say, with three different categories, maybe "Lame" "Decent" and "Smokin',") then you could really just do a simple test of homogeneity, where your test statistic would be χ2.

But what if you want to break it down a little more? What if you want observers to rate, on a scale of 1-12, things like “Enthusiasm,” “Handjob Technique,” “Pussy Tightness,” “Interest in Anal Sex,” “Orgasmic Potential,” “Overall kinkiness,” “Sensitivity of Gag Reflex,” etc, etc. ?

What if you wanted to examine, in conjunction, possible confounding factors, like, I don’t know, number of previous partners she’d had, or her exposure to religious teachings in childhood (you know what they say about Catholic girls, preacher’s daughters, and Jewish chicks…)? Or whatever.

What if you wanted to take observer bias into account? Clearly, “good in bed” is a rather subjective descriptor.

Hmmmm….Your null hypothesis would be that the mean in the “Stripper” population would be equal to the mean in the “Normal” population, and/or that the variance within the “Stripper” population would be equal to the variance within the “Normal” population (depending on the test you were using). I think…. :-\

Ouch. This is hurting my brain. But I think if you understood stats really well (which I don’t), you could design all kinds of interesting studies and analyses using t-tests, one-way ANOVAs, two-way ANOVAs and god only knows what else.


Although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If someone believes that strippers are better in bed, then most likely thier minds will make thier experiences meet this expectation.

That is a distinct possibility. Hence the need to control for observer bias.

And of course, there is something to be said for chemistry. You might think a chick is kinda lousy in bed, while another guy with whom she has better chemistry might think she’s the best he’s ever had. Regardless of her status as “stripper” or “normal.”

I guess I shouldn’t use the tongue-in-cheek term “normal” here, since “normal population” has a specific meaning in stats….

This is way off-topic, huh? Maybe I should start a new thread…we could design a study and gather data from the SCJs….hm….:thinking:

mr_punk
07-23-2006, 11:52 PM
Well, the volume is called "Bad Behaviour". Beware before you like it though: about 5 years ago she was THE favourite author of college aged women. Just - you're warned.oh, i'm not afraid of female authors. well, just as long as it's a romance novel. some years ago, a woman i dated gave me this book by a female author. i can't recall the title, but it was about this single, high-powered, female executive. she gets involved with this man and he disrupts her orderly, routine life. he didn't do anything bad. he was just being a guy. anyway, near the end of the story, she loses her mind and claws his eyeballs out. i wish i could recall the title of that book.

All Good Things
07-24-2006, 12:03 AM
Ok...But have you run the ANOVA? What are your n, F, and p values? Are your results statistically significant? :P

Baby, you know how to get me impossibly hard, but we need to lighten up on the dirty talk. It makes the natives restless, ya know?

FBR
07-24-2006, 02:22 AM
Bwahahahaha. My point was that Derek may be less deluded than you are. No, wait, that can't be right. See my latest posts above. Derek was a shark -- a fuckin retarded shark. You, my darling, are not. :flirt:

-Ev

Well Ev, the batting eye smiley was a great side step ;) And calling me "darling" instead of "dahling" (dahling being so Zsa Zsa Gabor, Green Acres'ish) didnt hurt either. But Im still wincing a bit from the Derek inference. My ego is still feeling tender so if you want to suck up a bit more, Im down with that ;D

Seriously, while Ive had my fin slicing through the water a time or two in a way that might appear meanacing on the surface, I do try to conduct my playtime such that I can reassure with a clear conscience "Oh honey thats not a shark fin, thats just a playful dolphin frolicking in the water". See how much better that sounds? Its gotten so bad, in fact, I feel like Ive slipped into some strangely bizarre HG domesticity. I keep waiting for Miss D to ask me stop off and pick up a gallon of milk on the way over. If that happens, I will never post in this thread again ::)

FBR

evan_essence
07-24-2006, 08:02 AM
And calling me "darling" instead of "dahling" (dahling being so Zsa Zsa Gabor, Green Acres'ish) didnt hurt either.FYI, dahling is known as Zsa Zsa's trademark term, but it was younger sister Eva who starred in Green Acres. Knowledge of which proves my g/f has me watching too much TVland and TCM.

-Ev

FBR
07-24-2006, 08:13 AM
FYI, dahling is known as Zsa Zsa's trademark term, but it was younger sister Eva who starred in Green Acres. Knowledge of which proves my g/f has me watching too much TVland and TCM.

-Ev

EV...busted on that one. I suck at TV trivia :)

FBR

evan_essence
07-24-2006, 08:50 AM
LOL..thanks for the morning chuckle. now, ain't that just precious. the empty platitude of a stripper. what next? crocodile tears. you know, the great thing about platitudes is that it costs the user nothing.Dismissing an alternative to your perception of the world as banal. Clever, I think.


i mean, despite all this bleeding-heart talk about these romantic misguided souls. i see you ladies aren't exactly in a hurry to point them in the right direction in the club. buy hey, mr_punk understands. after all, a girl's gotta do what a girl's...Wow, I had no idea you thought strippers capable of being guides to a customer's journey in life. I figure strippers, PLs and savvy customers are all on the same journey with various amounts of advancement. Regardless of position, the ones who get bitter and callous about it are the ones not making any progress.

-Ev

evan_essence
07-25-2006, 07:29 AM
what's more clever is how you didn't explain exactly how this alternative would benefit the romantic, misguided soul who thinks you're going to be his next girlfriend.WTF? He gets to spend time with ME, of course. That wouldn't happen if he were, say, you.


i mean, if i were a stripper. i would love to have nothing, but romantic, misguided souls. a stripper can make a career taking these guys for a very, very long ride.Oh, stop. That's fantasy. We've all heard a million times it's not about fantasy.


however, i'm not a stripper.I have a dollar I'll stick in if you turn around. You sure you won't reconsider?


furthermore, what's good for the stripper doesn't necessarily mean it's good for the customer.Whoa. I had no idea you were an anti-business bleeding-heart liberal Democrat.


i'm just saying it's pretty trite to say "i feel your pain" after you milked his wallet dry.You're putting words in my mouth. (Damn customers, always trying to shove something in an orifice without tipping.) I wasn't implying "I feel your pain." I was implying "You're paying for this, now bend over and take it because it's worth every penny, you girly man!"

-Ev

mr_punk
08-01-2006, 10:28 PM
WTF? He gets to spend time with ME, of course. That wouldn't happen if he were, say, you.ROTFLMAO...oh, i should be so lucky::). i can't decide who's more funny? you or him. call me crazy, but i don't think the sap...er...romantic, misguided soul is going to find much consolation in the fact that he got to spend time with you. i mean, after you suck his wallet dry and finally fiqures out that you're not going to be his GF. quite the opposite, he'll probably make some bizzare post on SCJ that you're a gold digger who lied and manipulated him. BTW, how can a stripper be a gold digger? isn't that sort of like calling a whore a home wrecker?

I wasn't implying "I feel your pain." I was implying "You're paying for this, now bend over and take it because it's worth every penny, you girly man!"is that so? well, in either case, being your biatch is not much of an alturnative for a customer. but hey, if you can get some sucker..er...misguided soul to say "how high" when you say "jump". more power to you. like i said, it's just more popcorn for me.

mr_punk
08-02-2006, 12:52 PM
Well, the volume is called "Bad Behaviour". Beware before you like it though: about 5 years ago she was THE favourite author of college aged women. Just - you're warned.i read the book. i can see why Gaitskill would be popular with the unshaven armpit and bra burning crowd. it ain't "chick lit". anyway, with the exception of the last two stories. it wasn't a bad book. anyway, the story "Secretary" was about what i expected. it's significantly different and much darker than the movie. it's a shame it couldn't have been made in it's original form. it's too bad Todd Solondz didn't direct the film. he's good at making movies with perverse subjects.

Jenny
08-02-2006, 02:09 PM
Gosh that's weird. I always thought of it as chicklit. I think we have very different ideas on what constitutes chicklit. And I'm pretty sure that your ideas... are wrong.

Gaitskill was pretty disgusted with the movie - particularly with the fact that it ended in marriage (like "perversions are great! Because they lead to tidy and happy family units!).

By the way, not shaving your armpits is SO second wave. Our position now is that women shouldn't shave less, but that men should shave more.

CarGuy
08-02-2006, 05:20 PM
Where do you prefer men should shave?

mr_punk
08-03-2006, 05:07 AM
Gosh that's weird. I always thought of it as chicklit. I think we have very different ideas on what constitutes chicklit. And I'm pretty sure that your ideas... are wrong.perhaps, our ideas are different. i wouldn't necessarily call a book "chick lit" because the author has a uterus, but perhaps you do. when i think of chick lit. i think of a book with light, perky, and fluffy book with cotton candy-like protagonist like Bridget Jones's Diary or it's ilk. OTOH, BB is too dark and unsentimential among other things. why she almost writes like a man. of course, that's the highest praise a female author can recieve. seriously, i might undertake one of her novels, but BB was written a long time ago. MG might have turned all light and fluffy since that time.

Gaitskill was pretty disgusted with the movie - particularly with the fact that it ended in marriage (like "perversions are great! Because they lead to tidy and happy family units!).sure. some writers are pretty vocal about what is done to their creations in the movie making process. hopefully, they find some consolation in the check and publicity they recieve from the movie. anyway, it's why i don't compare books that have been adapted into movies. i prefer to judge each on their own merits. otherwise, the movie is a chick flick compared to the original story.

By the way, not shaving your armpits is SO second wave. Our position now is that women shouldn't shave less, but that men should shave more.well, no thanks to NOW, but i've been doing it for years. like dr. evil says, "there really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. it's breathtaking, especially on a hot day and a cool breeze flies up your shorts while you're going commando", or something to that effect.

lunchbox
08-03-2006, 06:12 AM
well, no thanks to NOW, but i've been doing it for years. like dr. evil says, "there really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. it's breathtaking, especially on a hot day and a cool breeze flies up your shorts while you're going commando", or something to that effect.
You really need to try clearing a paying field all the way to the onion patch.

Jenny
08-03-2006, 11:23 AM
Where do you prefer men should shave?
I think the underarms would be a good start. I understand that waxing the pubic area is difficult for men, as it is challenging to pull the skin on the testicles taut enough to pull wax off with sufficient force without also pulling the skin off. But I think if as many man (or human) hours went into male waxing technology as have historically gone into ensuring that women's vaginas smell like rainy spring mornings, or chocolate fudge sundaes we could make it happen.


when i think of chick lit. i think of a book with light, perky, and fluffy book with cotton candy-like protagonist like Bridget Jones's Diary or it's ilk.
Oh, you totally didn't even read Bridget Jones's Diary, did you? It's not cotton candy - it's like one of those sour candies coated in sugar. Or a wine gum. Hmm. Wine gums. Damn gelatin stopping me from eating stupid wine gums.

Sorry, got distracted. I can't agree to that definition, as it is very limiting and dimunitive to "chicks" and their lit. I would have a much simpler definition - chicklit would be lit written (primarily) for women, by women. Ta da? Keep in mind that I am Canadian, and Canadians are weird when it comes to books. We have a national obsession with incest, for one thing.


why she almost writes like a man.
And thank you for reminding me... that I'm discussing books with mr._punk. On a website called Stripclubjunkie. Everyone in the world (but most especially everyone reading this thread) has just lost a whole ton of respect (such as they previously had) for both of us. I hope you're happy.


seriously, i might undertake one of her novels, but BB was written a long time ago. MG might have turned all light and fluffy since that time.
Well, I liked Two Girls Fat and Thin (I think Nicolina said she liked this one too). And Justine has all sorts of grey-zone, quasi-consensual sex. You should love it. It was also written a long time ago, so your fears of fluff can be abated.


anyway, it's why i don't compare books that have been adapted into movies. i prefer to judge each on their own merits. otherwise, the movie is a chick flick compared to the original story.
I LOVE comparing the movie to the book - I agree that each can be judged as "good" or "bad" on its own merits, but I think there is some good comparison. Seriously - think "The Ice Storm".


well, no thanks to NOW, but i've been doing it for years
Well, score one for the good guys. Now start doing your armpits.

Moneywise
08-03-2006, 04:29 PM
Everyone in the world (but most especially everyone reading this thread) has just lost a whole ton of respect (such as they previously had) for both of us. I hope you're happy.



I think you're both great! Pass the jalapeno flavored popcorn salt please... Thanks.

evan_essence
08-04-2006, 12:13 AM
ROTFLMAO...oh, i should be so lucky::). i can't decide who's more funny? you or him. call me crazy, but i don't think the sap...er...romantic, misguided soul is going to find much consolation in the fact that he got to spend time with you.Consolation? For what? He got what he paid for. There's no need for consoling. You're not seriously arguing that I'm not worth the price, are you? Grrrr.


i mean, after you suck his wallet dry and finally fiqures out that you're not going to be his GF. quite the opposite, he'll probably make some bizzare post on SCJ that you're a gold digger who lied and manipulated him.Well, goddam-nit, that is what he paid for.


is that so? well, in either case, being your biatch is not much of an alturnative for a customer. but hey, if you can get some sucker..er...misguided soul to say "how high" when you say "jump". more power to you. like i said, it's just more popcorn for me.Hey, I'm not about free entertainment for you. I gotta figure out a way to make a commission from that.

-Ev

Mastridonicus
08-04-2006, 05:36 PM
i mean, after you suck his wallet dry and finally fiqures out that you're not going to be his GF. quite the opposite, he'll probably make some bizzare post on SCJ that you're a gold digger who lied and manipulated him. BTW, how can a stripper be a gold digger? isn't that sort of like calling a whore a home wrecker?


No no no, you've got it all wrong. He'll come here and post a thread about how he doesn't THINK she wants him for his money, and how she said things and touched him in ways much to his disbelief because he would have assumed she was after his money but he believes she may not have been, and asking us all for our opinions...

Then 3k more into it, it'll dawn on him, he's not getting that number. And he'll wake up, and hope no one ever revives his thread for a follow up request.

Wait....

That's what I did....

mr_punk
08-04-2006, 10:25 PM
Consolation? For what? He got what he paid for. There's no need for consoling. You're not seriously arguing that I'm not worth the price, are you? Grrrr.no, i'm just saying that he's going to feel like a sap and your having spent time with him isn't going to mean much after the reality check.

Well, goddam-nit, that is what he paid for.hey, don't tell me. i'm not the misguided soul here. however, these things don't happen in a vacuum. there is a reason behind it no matter how misguided it may seem to you. it is what it is.

Hey, I'm not about free entertainment for you. I gotta figure out a way to make a commission from that.oh come on, this stuff is priceless.

mr_punk
08-04-2006, 10:36 PM
But I think if as many man (or human) hours went into male waxing technology as have historically gone into ensuring that women's vaginas smell like rainy spring mornings, or chocolate fudge sundaes we could make it happen.waxing? hold on, you're the sex objects here. so, men don't need to undergo that medevial torture known as the brazilian wax. And it's not because we're pansies afraid pain either. we're just old-fashioned. a hot shower and a razor does the job just fine.

Oh, you totally didn't even read Bridget Jones's Diary, did you? It's not cotton candy - it's like one of those sour candies coated in sugar. Or a wine gum. Hmm. Wine gums. Damn gelatin stopping me from eating stupid wine gums.no, but much to my eternal shame. when it was published, i started to read it while in the bookstore. i had to put it down after about 25 pages because i felt the blood pouring out of my eyes.

Sorry, got distracted. I can't agree to that definition, as it is very limiting and dimunitive to "chicks" and their lit. I would have a much simpler definition - chicklit would be lit written (primarily) for women, by women. Ta da?well, you can't blame this one on the patriarchy. if the phrase "chick lit" is limiting and dimunitive. it's because female authors use the phrase to claw at each other eyeballs like strippers.

And thank you for reminding me... that I'm discussing books with mr._punk. On a website called Stripclubjunkie. Everyone in the world (but most especially everyone reading this thread) has just lost a whole ton of respect (such as they previously had) for both of us. I hope you're happy.oh, i'm not worried about it. besides, i only completely (here i use it the normal 50%) use my primitive lizard brain in a sc. so, it's not like i'm talking to a stripper about books in a sc.

I LOVE comparing the movie to the book - I agree that each can be judged as "good" or "bad" on its own merits, but I think there is some good comparison. Seriously - think "The Ice Storm".sure, but it's only one thinks both are more or less good (or bad i suppose). otherwise, you just end up totally ripping one or the other. for every "The Ice Storm" there are ten movies that turn out like "The Bonfire of the Vanities". BTW, there's a book called the "The Devil's Candy" which shows how Wolfe's novel was drastically mutated during the movie making process. he was pretty diplomatic about the movie. IIRC, he thought it would be rude to trash the film since they wrote him a sizeable check.

Katrine
08-04-2006, 10:37 PM
BTW, how can a stripper be a gold digger? isn't that sort of like calling a whore a home wrecker?

Has anyone take this as their signature line yet? Its pretty sweet. 8)

evan_essence
08-05-2006, 11:30 AM
no, i'm just saying that he's going to feel like a sap and your having spent time with him isn't going to mean much after the reality check.Not mean much to him? That sorta hurts my feelings. Why can't he focus on the good feelings he had? I think I'm going to cry.


oh come on, this stuff is priceless.In the big scheme of things, I think you mean worthless.

-Ev

evan_essence
08-05-2006, 12:31 PM
Has anyone take this as their signature line yet? Its pretty sweet. 8)Kat! :hug: Am I the only one who just now noticed you're back? Is this the appropriate time and place to do the happy dance? :dance:

-Ev

Katrine
08-05-2006, 12:39 PM
As much as I enjoyed the constant masterbation and PBS viewing of an internet-free home, it was time to resurface. I've missed ya mama!! Its just like I never left, lol ;)

Docido
08-05-2006, 10:15 PM
Kat is back! Time to do the Snoopy Dance! 8)