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fancygirl
09-13-2006, 11:03 AM
Sorry to go off topic
Umm but why? (the shutting up part I mean) and who are you referring to when you ya ALL need to shut up? Sorry but i found that kinda rude and it was actually only one member who stated that she hope's Leilani get's sued. If you post this kinda stuff on a PUBLIC board then you have to accept that fact that people are going to give their opinion's (otherwise why post ?) regardless of whether it's to you liking or not. Its nice that your defending her and all but it's not really your place to be telling peeps to shut up ya kno'?.
Leilani you really should seek some kind of counseling to prevent this from happening again. This is how people end up commiting murder, sometimes they also just snap. Also I wouldn't just be worrying about being arrested you better watch your back when you go to school.
Seraya.
Actually, a lot of the early responses were negative, and maybe it was just because I had read the OP's post in BB but the original post wasn't being treated as a person coming to you guys with a problem. People responding to it were acting as if this was a person who WANTED to be violent, and I felt that their posts were totally ignoring the fact that Leila saw that she had a problem and was surprised by what happened.
And if people are allowed to give their opinions, the I'm just as equally able to offer my bit of advice to "shut up and consider what it would be like." My point was that I wanted people to be quiet for a second and think before responding because it was obvious that they weren't absorbing all the facts-- not that I didn't want them to respond at all, but I did want them to use their brains so that maybe this post wouldn't become negative and useless--which it was fast becoming.
You're welcome to your opinion that I was rude, but I also felt that everyone else was being rude-- we just have different ways of expressing that.
And to answer you're question about who "ya'all" was referring to:
So someone insulted you so you threw them to the ground and stomped on them with your heels because you're 'better' than them because you have Gucci and Prada.
Well. Now they have a reason. And a potential lawsuit. And a criminal case against you. And now you have zero ground to complain when someone thinks you're a bitch.
That was a dumb move you made and I hope that girl presses charges. Maybe youll learn you cant go around beating people up for talking shit about you.
Wow, you really sound like a class act.
Wow...and to think people stereotype strippers.
Get some counseling. But, I do have to say...I hope that girl fucking sues your ass off for what you did. Smooth...really, really smooth.
But, I like how you try to make it all of their fault..."But officer...she RAN into my fist...she MADE me punch her and all..."
Grow up.
^ These were the negative comments I was responding to. I actually respect the opinions of a lot of these posters most of the time, but this time I was disappointed. And that disappointment and frustration that everyone was essentially kicking the OP when she was down was why I stuck up for Leila.
I don't know if I'm just overly sensitive to the fact that it's the five year anniversary of 9/11 but NO ONE WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT FACT IN RELATION TO THIS STORY! It doesn't give Leila a free pass to do whatever the hell she wants, but can I understand it? Yes. Do I think it's cool for people to make fun of her and say "I hope she presses charges" or "I hope she sues you"? No. They're welcome to their opinions, but I also view this website, first and foremost, as helping each other out and trying to understand each other, NOT ganging up and tearing someone apart no matter how badly they're trying to communicate their very serious problem. So, go play miss manners with those people Seraya FIRST and then I'll consider your advice to me.
Classic'sMontana
09-13-2006, 11:40 AM
I think I have learned some lessons from this thread....
1-Try not to associate with hoes. Garden rakes, maybe. Shovels, sure. Hoes...forget about it.
2-When a group of people vaguely do something that makes you mad, try to avoid throwing them to the ground. And definitely try not to stomp their face with your 4 inch heels.
3-Try to be discrete when flaunting your BabyPhat accessories so as not to piss off other hoes.
4-Get counseling if I feel like I can't do the above.
Ow! Ow! Ow! My damn side hurts.
Just when I thought it couldn't get better...
That gem ala' Hyde-hyde-ho (pun intended) sorry... }:D }:D :faint:
Don't kick my ass. ;)
Yekhefah
09-13-2006, 11:44 AM
This thread has to be a joke. The bad grammar and ghetto slang with the extremely ghetto nature of the incident described... no one is really THAT ghetto. Right?
TigersMilk
09-13-2006, 11:58 AM
Fancygirl this is a public forum where we can voice our opioins openly on various topics. This topic is one of them. Yek, I think she's sadly for real.:-\
Sometimes people need to be put in their place and realize their actions are inadmissible. Whether it be the legal system or a few posters telling them what exactly what they think. The actions done by the OP were very immature when there were plenty of other ways to handle the different situations. Instead she took the wrong direction and decided to beat the hell out of the other girl.
Criminal acts are never means to an end.
stripperMBA
09-13-2006, 12:28 PM
A lot of urban community colleges can be just like high school. I took a summercourse once at Cuyahoga Community College (it's in Cleveland.) and I will NEVER do so again. There were foodfights in the cafeteria and fights regularly across campus. And the worst thing is that you would always have a group of people surrounding them cheering them on. The hallways needed to be stocked with security guards in order to keep the peace. It was sad and pathetic that grown adult people literally needed babysitters to make sure that they would behave.
Leilani if this is the type of school you go to then you need to transfer!!!!! Try going to a community college in a better suburban area. It may be a drive for you but it would be woth it. College should not be filled with ghetto or barrio people.
Dottie Rebel
09-13-2006, 12:40 PM
This thread has to be a joke. The bad grammar and ghetto slang with the extremely ghetto nature of the incident described... no one is really THAT ghetto. Right?
Wow. Not everyone was raised in Pleasantville.
There is a lot of racism in this thread.
sander8son
09-13-2006, 01:00 PM
Wow. Not everyone was raised in Pleasantville.
There is a lot of racism in this thread.
sure is, but i'd like to think of it as constructive racism. calling ignorant people out for being ignorant isn't bad.
what's so racist about hating BEV(ghetto speak)? It's a language of pure ignorance and stupidity and there are only three true careers for people who speak it: hip hop, sports, hooking. chances of making it in either of the first two, SLIM.
fancygirl
09-13-2006, 01:21 PM
Fancygirl this is a public forum where we can voice our opioins openly on various topics. This topic is one of them. Yek, I think she's sadly for real.:-\
Sometimes people need to be put in their place and realize their actions are inadmissible. Whether it be the legal system or a few posters telling them what exactly what they think. The actions done by the OP were very immature when there were plenty of other ways to handle the different situations. Instead she took the wrong direction and decided to beat the hell out of the other girl.
Criminal acts are never means to an end.
Agreed. But I get to say "shut up and consider what it's like" just like you guys are able to do your thing. You and I have a difference of opinion. I think that she very likely snapped. You think that at that point her emotional and mental state weren't so out of control that she couldn't control her actions. -shrug- only Leila knows which is for certain.
Yekhefah
09-13-2006, 01:31 PM
Where is the racism? I have no idea what race the OP is, and I don't see why it would matter.
TigersMilk
09-13-2006, 01:33 PM
Ok last comment on this issue:
She chose to let her emotions come to physical blows.
She chose to hit her more than once and stomp her with her heel. Excessive much?
Now, she did try to report them. Which was the right thing to do. Sometimes people dont listen when they should have had. If there is a case she can rightfully say she tried to do something about it and no one listened or took much action. OP, I hope you get help and see to it that this doesnt happen again to you.
fancygirl
09-13-2006, 01:41 PM
What she posted in BB, along with the information that these girls have been harassing her, and that her friend died in 9/11 and that she’s really emotional because of it leads me to believe that she did not CHOSE to react in any way-- she just did, which in my mind signals that she wasn’t in control of her actions. I’m not saying she shouldn’t take responsibility for it; I think she needs counseling to ensure this doesn’t happen again. But I don’t think there was a choice on the Ops part (though I might be wrong-- but that’s something Leila needs to work through to figure out what happened.)
Here are the posts, along with the ones here in the lounge that are leading me to think this:
"--Have anybody ever had they emotions just go all out of control because of thier repress memories, if so do you think that its a sign that something wrong.
--I mean I enjoying beating the shit out of a girl today! It help realse the hurt and all the emotional pain i was going thru! But Once I was done i felt bad. Maybe me taking that bad memory out on her was a sign that maybe i need to talk to someone about that memory. Even thought she is a stupid hoe. I did not have no control over my emotion at the time. Isnt that bad
--Yea Thats what I thought! But she was provoking me, when I look at her like you just dont stop dont you, She made the statement what you going beat my ass. I know thats not no excuse but I think I still need to talk about my emotion. I had never acted like that before!It was just not like me! I think i was just suppressing this emotion and I am concern about it and I think i need to nip it in the bud now"
Once again, TM, difference of opinion.
PleasureVictim
09-13-2006, 01:46 PM
Wow people...judgemental much? :-[
For future reference, I guess you should write 'properly' therefore you won't be subjected to the replies you've received. It's funny how people would have responded differently in that case.
Classic'sMontana
09-13-2006, 01:48 PM
http://www.forumspile.com/Thread-Sucks-Come_for-Arnold.jpg
PleasureVictim
09-13-2006, 02:03 PM
^^^Ahhh I love that movie!!
"I ain't got time to bleed"
madmaxine
09-13-2006, 02:06 PM
I wasn't going to say anything, but hell, if you grew up in the barrio you'd understand. If you don't step up you get stomped on. Some people don't listen unless you beat their a*ses. Sorry. That's life.
twisterinAZ
09-14-2006, 12:30 AM
Wow.... Clearly a communal nerve was touched here.
stripperMBA
09-14-2006, 02:16 AM
I wasn't going to say anything, but hell, if you grew up in the barrio you'd understand. If you don't step up you get stomped on. Some people don't listen unless you beat their a*ses. Sorry. That's life.
I do understand. I used to live in the barrio. Leila the reason I advised you to leave that school is because you need a positive place to get your education. You don't need no drama while trying to better yourself. If you around other people who are looking to better themselves and don't cause drama it will help you. I know what it is like, and how you have to stand up for yourself in the barrio or everyone will beat you down. But it does not have to be that way. In my old neighborhood all that fighting and shooting never solved anything. It just was an endless circle. Nothing good ever came out of it. That was what kept most of us down economicaly, and emotionally. But that is another topic. I will keep you in my prayers. Leila I hope you find the peace you deserve to get out of life spiritually, and physically.
Madcap
09-14-2006, 02:56 AM
Maxie's flat right on the nose. Granted, beating someones ass because "you're better" makes you no better at all (no judging, tho, i wasn't there and am not a mind reader), but if someone makes your life harder in a mean way i see nothing wrong with a good thumping.
Hell, sometimes a good thumping is just what the doctor ordered. Best thing you can do FOR the ass you are beating! Some people think that they can just do anything they want. There *needs* to be consequences. Fact of life: You can say anything you want. Another fact of life: You say something that pisses off folk too much, you just might get a broken nose.
Scorpio mentioned that violence is not the way of civillized people... He's right. BUT, a quick perusal of the century we just got out of shows that we are NOT, in fact, civillized. Mass extermination, religious intolerance, forced conversions, slavery, torture... Are we talking about 1043 A.D. or 1943 A.D.? 777 A.D. or 1977 A.D.? Times change, people do not. You cannot just bend over for these types. Peace is a nice idea, but others do not share it. They need a good talking to before they realize that they can't just do what they want.
I see what folk are saying. But sometimes you just gotta roll up the sleeves and kick an ass. It's as simple as that.
Yung1
09-14-2006, 05:31 AM
The last time I snapped on someone, I spent 3 months in a juvenile detention facility, got 100 hrs community service, and probation. I espescially enjoyed the picking up trash on my weekends! But - Lesson learned. I do have to say that beating her ass was so bittersweet, afterall she was fucking my man in front of me and everyone else! And he got his too!
In relation to this thread- maybe a little "time" will be good for you, you'll definetly think twice the next time you start to swing at someone for talking smack. It has certianly had that effect on me.
Miss_Luscious
09-14-2006, 06:26 AM
Well I see why she did it and I would have to say I would do the same thing. These girls have tried to hurt her before and when they approached her this time, she had to decide between fight or flight. Fight won. It's a natural response to a threat.
I'm really glad many of you ladies are so much above the rest of us that you would not even think of hitting someone even if that person had try to hurt you before and they were threatening (right there in you face) to do it again. I guess you all got beat up a lot as kids....
Classic'sMontana
09-14-2006, 07:11 AM
It is often expected for "kids" to squabble and scrap.... Its called adolescence and JUVENILE behaviour .
When adults do it... its called aggravated assualt.... even when it occurs under stress.
I am sorry to give this thread a bump, when all I really wish for is its timely death....
BUT I don't support violence. And some of the later responses about how "Some of think they are above it" etc, etc... I resent the implication that a reaction of dismay over violence above and beyond self defense suggests that myself and others like me must be cowards or wimps.
I don't/didn't get my ass kicked for being non violent. If someone were to threaten me I would perpare myself for being hit... If I was picked on or made fun of, I would feel angry and scared and upset. But... I wouldn't not hit them. If they hit me, I would probably push them away and run... then get on the phone and call the police (yes I would go there) and watch with pleasure as they were hauled away...
I Love that we are diverse and (most of the time) pleasent community; I enjoy reading different views... Being on public forum sometimes raises issues that are going to be debated.... I am not suggesting that people are wrong for reacting and feeling the way they feel regarding the OP... but sheesh ladies... don't jump all over each other over a fight that didn't even happen near us.
:eyebrow: :twocents:
Now.....
In other news....
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/becauseallmyfriendsjumped/ngbbs4431ed357a017.jpg
Last POST from me on this thread.
SWEAR
Yung1
09-14-2006, 07:51 AM
And in the future- make them swing first!!! That way you'll only be charged with self defense-no time!
leilanicandy
09-17-2006, 04:06 AM
This is an update!
I went to school the next day. I spoke with the student sevices. The girl I had attack with physcial violence. She had two warrents out for her arrest. She had also been arrested for physically beaten a young lady, with the help of four other girls. Which had left the young lady in the IC unit. I also recieves apolgies from my school. They apolgies for not doing anything about my complaints about this girl. I am currently trying to get all or partial compensation of tutions because they didn't do anything about all the complaints and this contributed to not only a hostile learning environment but was very detrimental to my mental and emotional health.. I am transfering from this school. I had seek and found a counslor.
When I first wrote about the girl. I was very emotional, and thier where so many thoughts running in my head. I did not tell you guys the whole story. My grammer and spelling was so bad. The girl had been bothering me for a long time. First I ignore her, when she started following me. I made complaints to the school. She only did this at school. Then she had made numerous threats, saying she was going to put me in the IC unit. The teacher and I had complain numerous times on this girl. She tried to attack me with four other girls. I was lucky sercurity came when she made a lot of attention! I have done nothing to this girl. I feel she dont like me. Only because I wear gucci, prada, and high heels. I feel this way because she had tease me about his stuff! She had said so many horrible things too me. She just will pick on me. I still think me beating her, the way I had beat the girl. Was not the right thing to do!
Mastridonicus
09-17-2006, 06:24 AM
I'm glad it all worked out and you'll be ok. You feel it was the wrong thing to do which seems to be the most important thing ;)
It's unfortunate, but people like this do exist. And they hate you because you have symbols of success to them who normally suffer in a pool of self pity till they have to act juvenile.
Don't get too down over yourself on this. We're only human after all.
Mast.
JustJayda
09-17-2006, 07:00 AM
I don't see what the relation to "ghetto" has to do with anything that the OP wrote. Bad grammar, certainly. Good for you if you have a better mastery of English than her.
I didn't see her writing anything about stabbin a sucka on the iron horse, or icin' anybody on the Westsiiidee, so how they fuck is it "ghetto" slang??
Like FG said, she came here for HELP, not a language/grammar tutorial. Cheez and Rice!
Very, Very judgemental.
Further, if the girls tried to whip her ass before, and she was saved by security, and then this time the same situation was in front of her and no security came....I see it as self-defense. Self-defense doesn't always require you to be struck first. If someone threatens you, and you believe there is a definate imminent danger to your person, then they have committed assault (at least in my state), and you can get physical to defend yourself. I went throught that shit with the bouncer at my old club, so I do know a lil' about it.
Yes, she could have gotten, and should have gotten a restraining order. It's not wussy to do so, IMHO. It also puts you a tad closer to having card blanche if one of the bullys messes with you once the order is in play.
If some of us choose not to fight back physically when presented or threatened with violence, good for you. I'm not being sarcastic at all. Some of us subscribe to Dr. King's methodolgy, and other of us are more like Malcom X (just an analogy for this instance..not entire lifestyles, so don't start any shit please).
I'd rather not wait to have some low-life chicks rip the earrings out of my ears, or cut/stab and scar me for life. The girls the OP wrote about sound like the types that would get joy from disfiguring an attractive girl out of pure jealousy!
Good luck Leilani, and get the heck away from that environment please. Chicks like that don't have shit, and they don't want you to have anything nice either. They probably don't have much going for them, or much to lose.....they are the most dangerous types.
seraya
09-17-2006, 11:21 AM
I went to school the next day. I spoke with the student sevices. The girl I had attack with physcial violence. She had two warrents out for her arrest. She had also been arrested for physically beaten a young lady, with the help of four other girls. Which had left the young lady in the IC unit. I also recieves apolgies from my school. They apolgies for not doing anything about my complaints about this girl. I am currently trying to get all or partial compensation of tutions because they didn't do anything about all the complaints and this contributed to not only a hostile learning environment but was very detrimental to my mental and emotional health.. I am transfering from this school. I had seek and found a counslor.
When I first wrote about the girl. I was very emotional, and thier where so many thoughts running in my head. I did not tell you guys the whole story. My grammer and spelling was so bad. The girl had been bothering my for a long time. First I ignore her, when she started following me. I made complaints to the school. She only did this at school. Then she had made numerous threats, saying she was going to put me in the IC unit. The teacher and I had complain numerous times on this girl. She tried to attack me with four other girls. I was lucky sercurity came when she made a lot of attention! I have done nothing to this girl. I feel she dont like me. Only because I wear gucci, prada, and high heels. I feel this way because she had tease me about his stuff! She had said so many horrible things too me. She just will pick on me. I still think me beating her, the way I had beat the girl. Was not the right thing to do!
That’s good news hun!
I would definitely get your butt out of that school retaliation is WHAT you don't need! And like Jayda just said a restraining order should be sought, if she has been threatening you like this.
Also as I said before most definitely look into some sort of counselling so that you will be able to work out the emotions you are dealing with over the loss of your friend.
Take care.
seraya.
cinammonkisses
09-19-2006, 06:36 PM
Goodness gracious! I just sat here in disbelief while I read this entire thread. Leilani, I'm glad to see that things are finally starting to look better for you. The sun will shine again! I agree, I really hope you get the counseling that you need. It's always nice to be able to talk to someone who you have a connection to, and they can understand where you are coming from.
Peace and blessings,
CK
kitana
09-23-2006, 03:12 PM
No, I am not in HighSchool. In fact I transfer out of UIC, because I could not afford thier prices. I've decided to go to another College. Where I would finish school, for a nursing degree. Which I am going to call College (A). ( The school I am attending now)! I now see that I would have been better off, If I solds things on Ebay. To help pay that tution at UIC.
If you are in college, then you are supposta act like an adult.
Going around beating someone's ass that talks shit about you, IS NOT acceptable adult behavior.
Sorry, but it's not.
Losing your ability to be a nurse is the LEAST of your worries.
Facing jail time and a damn felony is what you should be concerned about.
while I understand how hard it is to loose someone, especially when it's close to their death anniversary, that is NOT a reson to physically assault someone.
You need counsulling ASAP. Go talk to a school counseler or something. If you dance, there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to pay for a few sessions in one week of work.
kitana
09-23-2006, 03:17 PM
sure is, but i'd like to think of it as constructive racism. calling ignorant people out for being ignorant isn't bad.
what's so racist about hating BEV(ghetto speak)? It's a language of pure ignorance and stupidity and there are only three true careers for people who speak it: hip hop, sports, hooking. chances of making it in either of the first two, SLIM.
You forgot dealing drugs!
That can be a fairly "lucrative" career for those people as well!