View Full Version : Anyone Have A Sugar Daddy?
PrettyCurlieQ
08-07-2007, 07:00 PM
I've never had a sugar daddy, but there are a ton of girls in my club that have them. Our door girl even has one, he's like 87 years old, super millionaire. From what I understand, some girls are sleeping with these guys, some are not. But they're all being taken care of very nicely. My dream sugar daddy would either be Brad Pitt, or some guy I never have to talk to that just makes lots of money magically appear in my bank account whenever I want. But that's just greedy, wishful thinking..lol
Melonie
08-07-2007, 08:10 PM
I think a very small, select group of sugardaddies may rise to the level of gentlemen and be able to conduct themselves in a way that shows respect, affection and admiration for women rather than thinly-veiled contempt and manipulation.
In the nineties the select group was very small. Today it is essentially non-existant. The vast majority of today's sugar daddies are less like philanthropists and more like bankers. When you first sign on to the deal you get a 'sweetheart' introductory package, receiving lots of goodies on 'credit' . As a little bit of time passes, the 'sweetheart' introductory phase mutates into a 'tit for tat' business transaction i.e. if you want to continue to 'receive' you must also 'give'. And if you want to get out of the deal early or if you refuse to 'deliver', today there can even be attempts to extract an 'early withdrawl penalty' (i.e. issuing the ex-'sugar baby' a 1099, anonymous tip to the IRS, tipping off local cops re your 'escort/ prostitution' business etc.)
I have found that most potential sugar daddies know enough about business and law to realize that today's 'strippers' have no credibility with the courts. Thus if the deal comes unglued they can claim just about anything - especially that THEY were the victim - to save face and their own reputation at the girl's expense. After all, anything an unhappy ex-sugar daddy may want to claim will almost certainly be believed vs the word of a 'stripper'.
I was never into sugar daddy deals even in the 90's. I sure as hell wouldn't enter into one now !!!!
All Good Things
08-07-2007, 08:54 PM
My dream sugar daddy would either be Brad Pitt, or some guy I never have to talk to that just makes lots of money magically appear in my bank account whenever I want.
You do know that this is, uh, exactly what I do for many dancers here on the site. Right? But by long-standing tradition we've sort of agreed that it has to be a case of real need. And I've requested that the dancers not publicly acknowledge, individually, that I am the source of these "gifts." It's enough that the two of us know. And every single dancer has held up her end of the deal and not revealed the source on the site.
I think this general practice of mine has been alluded to enough in cryptic ways that this is not a huge shocker, so I can post it here in SG where, oddly enough, I've always felt warmly welcome over the years.
Oh, and you can get away without talking to me, but you have to at least text me. There is just certain information I need for a bank wire or a same-day WU cash transfer.
I won't even get into the challenge of reading your mind. I can do it, but it requires a whole different set of skills. :)
Lysondra
08-07-2007, 08:59 PM
You do know that this is, uh, exactly what I do for many dancers here on the site. Right? But by long-standing tradition we've sort of agreed that it has to be a case of real need. And I've requested that the dancers not publicly acknowledge, individually, that I am the source of these "gifts." It's enough that the two of us know. And every single dancer has held up her end of the deal and not revealed the source on the site.
I think this general practice of mine has been alluded to enough in cryptic ways that this is not a huge shocker, so I can post it here in SG where, oddly enough, I've always felt warmly welcome over the years.
Oh, and you can get away without talking to me, but you have to at least text me. There is just certain information I need for a bank wire or a same-day WU cash transfer.
I won't even get into the challenge of reading your mind. I can do it, but it requires a whole different set of skills. :)
Well, HELLO! P:
Just kidding.
My ultimate sugar daddy is a well-to-do man who can spoil me with conversation as well as gifts. Someone who will wine me and dine me while discussing the fabulous wines of the near valley in great detail. When he takes me shopping he also dines me... we buy a lovely fancy dress that he thinks looks amazing on me, probably in satin and then takes me out to a place that night where I can wear it to show off... all while discussing politics and fine foods eagerly without argument but with a soft heated debate that ends up turning us both on.
Of course I'd probably end up marrying this figment of my imagination, since he appears to be effing perfect. Hmm.. can I do that? *toddles off to marry her figment*
Darcy Foxx
08-07-2007, 09:09 PM
The only sugar daddy agreement I'd ever enter into would be one where I a) don't have to do anything and b) get lots of money for it. lol
I used to have this disgusting, repulsive 65 year old customer who'd take me out to lunch and pay me hundreds of dollars and then take me shopping and let me buy whatever I wanted. But I'd have to sit and watch him spit while he talked, and listen to him rant on and on in graphic detail about how he's such a STUD because he paid some 18 year old girl $5,000 and she had sex with him. Oh god, he was foul. I couldn't deal with it. I'd rather not have the money and clothes and not have to assosciate with him. Ick. If I was more of a whore, I totally could've made a fortune from him.
But yeah, if I could find someone who'd just pay me money occasionally when I wanted things... like a new tv, or a boob job, whom I didn't really have to hang out with and who wasn't crazy, that'd be neat. I wouldn't really want someone to pay my rent and shit, I'd rather do that myself because I like feeling like I'm working and earning my own way... but televisions and big boobs would be great haha. But considering the chances of that are slim to none, I shan't hold my breath! :P
Circe
08-07-2007, 09:20 PM
I'd like this type of arrangement...if the man was a true gentleman and we had a good rapport. But that's quite rare, I'm sure...so I'm not holding my breath.
RoseLeigh
08-07-2007, 11:24 PM
Of course I'd probably end up marrying this figment of my imagination, since he appears to be effing perfect. Hmm.. can I do that? *toddles off to marry her figment*
Your figment sounds awesome! I wish there were enough guys around like that. I always get bored with the guys who seem to be looking for a sugar daddy/baby thing. If they could at least hold up a conversation, it would be better.
buffie06
08-08-2007, 01:20 AM
i have a sugar daddy, and i play mind games with him in order not to lose his business. (such as "oh (name) i miss you! it's been a while, and i totally was thinking about the last time we were in the VIP, and how you blha blah blah") but the good thing is, he is in florida and i am in philly. so there really is no normal sugar daddy behavior. when he comes into town it's on business and we usually get together for dinner and *conventiently* i have to work right after. so there's no time for any funny biz. and when he comes in i make sure he knows that i cant just sit and chat because im at work and i have to make money there. and if he's not spending it i have to sit with someone else because "i have my mortgage to pay," or "car payment is due monday". the idea that he wont be spending the evening with me will snap him back to stripper customer mode and out of i give you my time on the phone for 5-10 a day for free mode.
also, when i broke my foot and wasn't dancing i "didnt have enough money for bills" and he would send me checks. but this situation is rare. very rare. i have had other sugar daddies and in the end they want sex, so i just tried to make it last until that point.
This sounds like a regular, not a sugar daddy. I was under the impression that with the kind the OP is talking about, sugar daddy actually is like a boyfriend that spends on you etc.
miabella
08-08-2007, 02:39 AM
Well, HELLO! P:
Just kidding.
My ultimate sugar daddy is a well-to-do man who can spoil me with conversation as well as gifts. Someone who will wine me and dine me while discussing the fabulous wines of the near valley in great detail. When he takes me shopping he also dines me... we buy a lovely fancy dress that he thinks looks amazing on me, probably in satin and then takes me out to a place that night where I can wear it to show off... all while discussing politics and fine foods eagerly without argument but with a soft heated debate that ends up turning us both on.
Of course I'd probably end up marrying this figment of my imagination, since he appears to be effing perfect. Hmm.. can I do that? *toddles off to marry her figment*
i married that guy myself. except he defers to my views on wines, since i know the good ones better than he does.
Lysondra
08-08-2007, 03:22 AM
^ Well colour me jealous.
ViolaStrings
08-08-2007, 10:31 AM
All the good sugar daddies are unhappily married guys who won't get divorced because it'll cost them BIG bucks. The money spent on a sugar baby to amuse them is way less than how much a divorce would cost. They understand the arrangement if you do, but god help you when you get caught - which you will.
Believe me, I've been there.
cameron_keys
08-08-2007, 10:50 AM
You do know that this is, uh, exactly what I do for many dancers here on the site. Right? But by long-standing tradition we've sort of agreed that it has to be a case of real need. And I've requested that the dancers not publicly acknowledge, individually, that I am the source of these "gifts." It's enough that the two of us know. And every single dancer has held up her end of the deal and not revealed the source on the site.
I think this general practice of mine has been alluded to enough in cryptic ways that this is not a huge shocker, so I can post it here in SG where, oddly enough, I've always felt warmly welcome over the years.
Oh, and you can get away without talking to me, but you have to at least text me. There is just certain information I need for a bank wire or a same-day WU cash transfer.
I won't even get into the challenge of reading your mind. I can do it, but it requires a whole different set of skills. :)
Sigh....lucky girls...
RoseLeigh
08-08-2007, 10:56 AM
Sigh....lucky girls...
LOL Seriously!
Katrine
08-08-2007, 06:57 PM
You do know that this is, uh, exactly what I do for many dancers here on the site. Right? But by long-standing tradition we've sort of agreed that it has to be a case of real need. And I've requested that the dancers not publicly acknowledge, individually, that I am the source of these "gifts."
Why do you continually have to divulge and discuss this? You are a classy gentleman and this really makes me uncomfortable to read such things.
All Good Things
08-08-2007, 07:54 PM
Why do you continually have to divulge and discuss this? You are a classy gentleman and this really makes me uncomfortable to read such things.
To the best of my knowledge, and I may be wrong, this is the first time I've ever explicitly said it -- as applied to dancers personally -- on the public boards. Are you sure you are not confusing it with all the PMs flying around during and after SF Las Vegas? The latter is the only time I think it ever surfaced, and that was, in terms of public disclosure, only about an event, not about individuals. We surely talked about it a lot then.
I accept that I may be totally wrong about this, but I don't think so.
The only thing we've regularly talked about on the public boards -- and this has been a recent phenomenon -- is my financial support for the site itself, and I had never commented on that in public at all until Pryce divulged it for the first time last year. And most of those discussions have been buried away in Site Issues, which nobody seems to read.
I'm sure you know that making you uncomfortable is pretty close to the very last thing I want to do. Especially you, maya dorogaya! If I've done so in any way, I truly apologize! :-\
genesia
08-08-2007, 08:17 PM
OK i CLEARLY need some help in this area... :-[
ALL THESE men wanna get with me, on a relationship level, and they always SAY that they are going to "help me out" or "take care of me" ..(blah blah BLAAAH).. but when i givee them half the time of day, or indulge in meaningful convo with them, or go out with them, or whatever... they don't come off a gaht-damn DIME, yet while i'm sitting here with no money, struggling to make ends meet, with no phone, no power, yada yada yada, they talk about their timeshares, or their Escalades, or their $5,000 necklaces... what the FUCK?! How do you guys get these SOBs to come up off the cash? Do you come right out and ASK? Clearly, hinting isn't a big hit with the men.. what do you do? I am considered the most coveted woman in my area, yet i can't get SHIT from these guys.. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?? Or what SHOULD i be doing?? I don't want a millionaire SD or anything even close to "extreme".. just a few hundred dollars to get me out of a rusty station wagon, or a shopping spree or two:'( ... Maybe i'm just nieve? Please offer some insight/advice.. and please, please be brutally honest...
scarlett_vancouver
08-08-2007, 08:23 PM
Why do you continually have to divulge and discuss this? You are a classy gentleman and this really makes me uncomfortable to read such things.
No. Kidding.
Maybe it's the first time you've said it explicitly, but alluding to the fact is pretty much what half your posts are about. It's like, not only are you bragging, but you're also like "nyah nyah" to 99% of the board. SO not classy.
Ya, I hear you're great, really nice, blah blah, but I'd have a whole lot more respect if you classed it up and talked less about your sugar-daddiness.
How does someone even interact on an equal plane with someone who immediately skews the dynamic like that?
Probably doesn't need to be said that I don't do the sugar daddy thing, lol. In theory it sounds great, but I don't have the patience to deal with that^ kind of attitude.
All Good Things
08-08-2007, 10:11 PM
Maybe it's the first time you've said it explicitly, but alluding to the fact is pretty much what half your posts are about.
Well, at least the other half are about sex. :)
I may be terribly mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I personally have never even alluded to providing monetary support to individual dancers on the site in crisis or need, most of whom I have never met and never will. You do understand that I'm not talking about dancers I've met or I've known from the clubs, right? The cryptic comments I was referring to above were not ones I had made. And asking these dancers not to talk about it publicly or identify me as the source seems like something one would request in order to keep it from becoming too public, I would think. And that has been the overwhelming historical norm.
What I have done, and what I think you are talking about, is discussed my club spending on dancers I've known both ITC and OTC in terms on a scale that you've often found objectionable, offensive, generally overbearing, and, well, let's admit it, totally obnoxious.
Perhaps you've not noticed, but I've pretty much stopped posting about my club spending habits or contributing or commenting on any thread that talks about customer spending in the clubs. For whatever reason, to a small group of dancers, and you in particular (I just knew you were going to rap my knuckles next in this thread!;) ) I've just not been very successful in striking the right balance between objective fact, club dynamics of customer behavior and a sense of humor designed to make the entire mix more interesting, if not more palatable.
It's like, not only are you bragging, but you're also like "nyah nyah" to 99% of the board. SO not classy.
I would be the first to agree that bragging is the polar opposite of classy.
It's certainly not been obvious how much has been going on behind the scenes to keep the site up and running over the last two years, all of it out of public view, and without attribution, or more precisely, without accurate attribution. Thankfully, there has been a humorous side to this, as I used to smile at the dancer clothing banners that read, "site access made possible by.." when in fact site access was made possible by, well, a guy who is "not only bragging, but is also saying nyah nyah to 99% of the board." You would think that behavior, if true, would be consistent in my posts, even though I never said a single public word about any of my financial activities that kept the board up and running until Pryce first disclosed it after SF Las Vegas. I didn't do it because it was simply not a very classy thing to do. I am not asking for any special dispensation on this point other than to suggest that I may not be as hopeless a basket case as you may think at first glance. Or maybe I am, and that's just a stupid excuse.
As much as you dislike me now, would you believe that you are going to dislike me even more beginning this weekend? Now that it's public, we are going to sort of admit it, so I am bracing myself for the inevitable Scarlett "TOO is an obnoxious twit" thread. :)
Ya, I hear you're great, really nice, blah blah, but I'd have a whole lot more respect if you classed it up and talked less about your sugar-daddiness.
I've looked deep inside my soul and realized there is nothing I am ever going to do that will earn your respect. It's sad, too, because I'm sure that if I ever met you in person, you would so completely charm my socks off that I'd be hopelessly and aimlessly enamored of you every second I was privileged enough to be in your orbit. I mean this totally seriously. And it would make no difference to you at all. All you would say at the end of the night would be, "God, what a hopeless PL." ;)
Andygirl
08-08-2007, 10:54 PM
yet while i'm sitting here with no money, struggling to make ends meet, with no phone, no power, yada yada yada,
I am considered the most coveted woman in my area, yet i can't get SHIT from these guys.. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?? Or what SHOULD i be doing??
Do you have a job at a club? If so, how is it that you can't pay for this stuff? Even dancers who make $100 a shift should be able to afford basic rent, utilities, car, etc. If you are spending all of your time sitting with broke men then I can see why you aren't making any money.
My advice to you is go read Hustle Hut and learn to work. Forget the idea of a sugar daddy or any one guy who is going to pay your way through life. That sort of situation comes with the inevitability of all kinds of problems, including the one where he gets bored with you and stops giving you money. Then what would you do?
Independence and not being indebted to anyone is one of the best things that stripping can give you. Yes, you have to work for it, but that's life. If you are the "most coveted" woman in your club then it should be no problem for you to pull a consistent income.
Stop hanging with the losers and start working the crowd. If you've sat for 15 min. and the man isn't getting dances or forking over cash, then move on to the next one. Those guys with Escalades and "bling bling" are never going to be the sugar daddies you are looking for. And if they sit and talk about taking care of you that means they want to date you outside of the club, and I seriously doubt that's going to include a monthly stipend. While you are giving them meaningful conversation it is ok to ask them for dances or tell them that you are there to make money. If they don't pay they shouldn't get to play. Don't give your time away for free.
scarlett_vancouver
08-08-2007, 11:25 PM
As much as you dislike me now, would you believe that you are going to dislike me even more beginning this weekend? Now that it's public, we are going to sort of admit it, so I am bracing myself for the inevitable Scarlett "TOO is an obnoxious twit" thread. :)
I don't sit around building up hate for you, I don't even really dislike you- I don't know you. I just (really) disagree with how manipulative you are with the girls here, and will leave it at that. I appreciate the support you provide to SW and wouldn't want to say anything to jeopardize that. So I'm done.
Alaska
08-08-2007, 11:37 PM
Oh yea, just to say...I've never met anyone from this board (yet) and have no clue, but to TOO, I've had that suspicion...well suspicion is a bad word. Just reading inbetween lines is my forte is all...maybe you have never *factually alluded* to it (please allow me that Arielism cuz it's so true) but yr posts just...make it seem like you would be...the person to do such things.
Alaska
08-08-2007, 11:37 PM
Btw, Big Mistake methinks, regarding yr outright admittal of it....I see lots of PM's flying in the future, and more of weird crazy varient, TOO.
Guess yr looking for subtle ways to get out of future transactions!
Lysondra
08-08-2007, 11:51 PM
If TOO wants to secretly donate money to me he can. >.> <.<
I mean, after all, I'm still homeless. >.> >.>
Or he can just come to Australia and we can visit a wine orchard. P: That sounds fun.
cameron_keys
08-09-2007, 12:36 AM
[QUOTE=Lysondra;1165067]If TOO wants to secretly donate money to me he can. >.> <.<
/QUOTE]
Seriously....where do I sign up for that!!! Hey TOO...I need a financial backer to shoot my pilot...,wannt get in on my tv show!!!
TOO I live in a van and I need 90k to buy land and build a cabin. I promise I won't tell anyone if you give me money. :-)
genesia
08-09-2007, 01:22 AM
Do you have a job at a club? If so, how is it that you can't pay for this stuff? Even dancers who make $100 a shift should be able to afford basic rent, utilities, car, etc. If you are spending all of your time sitting with broke men then I can see why you aren't making any money.
My advice to you is go read Hustle Hut and learn to work. Forget the idea of a sugar daddy or any one guy who is going to pay your way through life. That sort of situation comes with the inevitability of all kinds of problems, including the one where he gets bored with you and stops giving you money. Then what would you do?
Independence and not being indebted to anyone is one of the best things that stripping can give you. Yes, you have to work for it, but that's life. If you are the "most coveted" woman in your club then it should be no problem for you to pull a consistent income.
Stop hanging with the losers and start working the crowd. If you've sat for 15 min. and the man isn't getting dances or forking over cash, then move on to the next one. Those guys with Escalades and "bling bling" are never going to be the sugar daddies you are looking for. And if they sit and talk about taking care of you that means they want to date you outside of the club, and I seriously doubt that's going to include a monthly stipend. While you are giving them meaningful conversation it is ok to ask them for dances or tell them that you are there to make money. If they don't pay they shouldn't get to play. Don't give your time away for free.
Ok, i think you mis-took what i was asking... just to clarify, before you get all judgemental.. NO I DO NOT WORK IN A CLUB RIGHT NOW. I assumed that this thread was related to men that you meet ANYWHERE, not just limited to the ones you "meet" at work..
My bad. Maybe i should not have interjected my question. I digress. Please accept my apology. I expect no further response, as clearly i asked something i should not have.:-\
Alaska
08-09-2007, 01:32 AM
NO I DO NOT WORK IN A CLUB RIGHT NOW. I assumed that this thread was related to men that you meet ANYWHERE, not just limited to the ones you "meet" at work..
My bad. Maybe i should not have interjected my question. I digress. Please accept my apology. I expect no further response, as clearly i asked something i should not have.:-\
No need to have a shocked response to the fact she thought you worked in a club.
genesia
08-09-2007, 01:42 AM
LMAO .. Key word being "RIGHT NOW"
This is not my thread, so i won't turn it around on me, but before you JUDGE, you need to realize that you don't know everyones current situation, or if, like me, WHY someone is not dancing at the MOMENT.
In my time here, i have always been respectful, and expect the same respect in return. Honestly, i do not feel like that is asking too much. Sorry if you disagree. ;-)
Now back to the sugar daddies..
genesia
08-09-2007, 02:13 AM
No prob:-*
Andygirl
08-09-2007, 10:01 AM
Who's judging you? I assumed you were a stripper because this forum is called STRIPPERWEB. Since you aren't, I don't know what to tell you about obtaining a sugar daddy.
Bridgette
08-09-2007, 02:40 PM
TOO, you've bragged several times on here about "wire transfers" and "helping girls out" around here, for quite some time. This instance may be the most overt, but it's by far not the first time you've brought it up. We got the message long ago: you like giving away money. Cool. But if you REALLY wanted it to be so private though, you wouldn't keep bringing it up here in public. Because talking about it only makes it look like you want us to swoon endlessly over what a swell guy you are, etc.
I wonder what are these many PMs you're talking about. Do you have secret access to all of our PMs, or are you just going by heresay and assumption? Seems like the latter to me. I'd be careful how much stock I put in that...
Finally, once again we all appreciate your support of this site. Truly, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that. But it makes people uncomfortable when you bring up sending money to nameless girls. Frankly, I think most of us would rather not know (well, unless of course they're wanting some of it for themselves LOL).
Katrine
08-09-2007, 03:36 PM
I really don't want to know about. Ladies, you're strippers, make your own money! Grrr, entitlement...
Lysondra
08-09-2007, 03:54 PM
I really don't want to know about. Ladies, you're strippers, make your own money! Grrr, entitlement...
Aww I was joking. I'm making my own money!
I'm a fond believer in working for yourself and doing your best. I'd only want a sugar daddy if there was an attraction.. which is why it'd probably never work for me.
All Good Things
08-09-2007, 05:27 PM
TOO, you've bragged several times on here about "wire transfers" and "helping girls out" around here, for quite some time. This instance may be the most overt, but it's by far not the first time you've brought it up. We got the message long ago: you like giving away money. Cool. But if you REALLY wanted it to be so private though, you wouldn't keep bringing it up here in public. Because talking about it only makes it look like you want us to swoon endlessly over what a swell guy you are, etc.
Oh come on Bridgette, you've never swooned over anybody. Admit it. :)
I'm a bit overwhelmed with my current swoonage IRL, so I honestly am not seeking any here. You're right that I've made comments about wire transfers, but never explicitly about where they are going, or why. These occasional comments have been a good thing, too, because when kept at low volume, they tend to attract people when they are in desperate straits and have no other options. It's not that I "like giving money away," I just like making a difference when people are truly scared, see no way out and have no other options at all. I grew up living like that, as you know.
I wonder what are these many PMs you're talking about. Do you have secret access to all of our PMs, or are you just going by heresay and assumption? Seems like the latter to me. I'd be careful how much stock I put in that...
It's far worse than you think. I have secret access to all your hopes and fears. On a day with good reception, I can pick up your dreams and fantasies, too. ;)
The PM exchanges I'm referring to are the ones where I was one of the participants. There was a huge volume around the time of SF Vegas, which is why I was thinking Kat may have been referring to those.
Finally, once again we all appreciate your support of this site. Truly, and I think I speak for everyone when I say that. But it makes people uncomfortable when you bring up sending money to nameless girls. Frankly, I think most of us would rather not know (well, unless of course they're wanting some of it for themselves LOL).
My PM traffic would suggest that a very appreciable number of dancers on this board are not bothered by it in the slightest. In fact, I'd say the most common response is a long note that is, well, exhaustively appreciative. And that leaves out all the public posts that just have a little fun with it.
I recognize that I'm never going to keep everybody happy, all the time, even you. But I can live with the fact that I'm doing my very best to find the right balance. :)
Vyanka
08-09-2007, 07:10 PM
My ultimate sugar daddy is a well-to-do man who can spoil me with conversation as well as gifts. Someone who will wine me and dine me while discussing the fabulous wines of the near valley in great detail. When he takes me shopping he also dines me... we buy a lovely fancy dress that he thinks looks amazing on me, probably in satin and then takes me out to a place that night where I can wear it to show off... all while discussing politics and fine foods eagerly without argument but with a soft heated debate that ends up turning us both on.
Of course I'd probably end up marrying this figment of my imagination, since he appears to be effing perfect. Hmm.. can I do that? *toddles off to marry her figment*
Never had one, but one like this I would consider. :)
miabella
08-09-2007, 07:45 PM
on this site, every category of poster (customer, dancer, and anything else) is snippy and defensive if their particular set-off topic(s) turn up.
genesia
08-09-2007, 07:54 PM
^^ I think you're right.. :-\
I just have a problem with being overly nice (or nieve' ..however you look at it) and yeah, i think i got a bit defensive.:-[
I have a ton going on..and my first period in THREE YEARS isn't helping matters i presume.:'(
Sorry about that.. i prolly shouldn't have posted my initial comment any damn way simply because i work my ass off and i hustle like hell, so i don't even WANT the bullshit of dealing with a "sugardaddy" ..or any other type of man at this point! *uuuggghhrrhh* <----They are all the same, and the reason i guess i never GOT anything from them is b/c i never GAVE anything.. and i sure as hell ain't ASKING for it!! .....but on the same note, i guess had it been a hustle-in-the-club-situation, the story would be very, very different b/c i have no problems getting custys to come off what i want... but in "real life" i suck at it:( ..
But my Gurl who said "make your own damn money" is right (when pertaining to outside-the-club-situations)
holiday
08-09-2007, 09:32 PM
^I think you were harassed a little unnecessarily, and you already did apologize if you did overreact.
Anyway, has anyone seen this site before? http://www.seekingarrangement.com/?gclid=CPe6lbaN6o0CFSm3hgod4BoswQ
It's advertised on craigslist sometimes.
KiwiDan
08-09-2007, 09:33 PM
i could do with a suga momma... I'd sit at home and play my new xbox 360 on my new plasma screen with my new stereo surround sound going while someone was out working and earning money to give to me. I like Italian shirts and could do with a rolex. And I guess I could force myself to have sex with her...
PaigeDWinter
08-09-2007, 09:36 PM
Lately I've been wishing for a platonic sugar daddy/mama... if only to assist with the medical expenses of late. I could very well see it being short term, just so I can get ahead... then I'd be quite content in working for my own again! :D
^I think you were harassed a little unnecessarily, and you already did apologize if you did overreact.
Anyway, has anyone seen this site before? http://www.seekingarrangement.com/?gclid=CPe6lbaN6o0CFSm3hgod4BoswQ
It's advertised on craigslist sometimes.
I haven't seen this one...hhhmmmm...may have to check it out...LOL!
Okay...maybe I shouldn't have looked, I think I may have found my ideal... :P
alani.girl
08-09-2007, 10:22 PM
My ideal sugar dad would be one who actually cared about me. You now, he would be someone who had empathy and wanted to see me achieve my dreams and goals -- someone who for whatever reason, wanted to see me do well in life. Ideally, we would be friends so he would like my personality and vice versa. I mean, I would really want to have a friend for life in him. He would help me out moneywise, he would also surprise me with creative gifts on the side because he actually enjoyed it. Oh, and he would hate to have me ask for anything. Talking much about money would bother him, so he would just give I guess, and that would be that.
I mean, is it too much to ask to find someone who feels good making me feel better? Maybe some ex-bad person who's changed his life around and to recharge his karma, wants to do good by me, *sugarbabe.*
I would want to be able to come to him for advice like an older brother or god parent. Ideally we would be so close that physical intimacy wouldn't matter one way or the other.
I have heard fables of men like this...but alas, they were fables. It's nice to day dream though!
LuckiCharm
08-09-2007, 11:33 PM
I wish it wasn't so hard to find a sugar daddy who you can tolerate. All the men willing to be sugar daddies aren't that attractive to me...or at least I haven't found one yet!
EEEPPP! I really think I found one that piques my interest on that site that holiday posted. He doesn't live around these parts, either, which is an added bonus as well. What to do? What to do? :-\
daniella_maria
08-09-2007, 11:40 PM
on the subject of the thread, I prefer not to have sugar daddies.... they are usually more trouble than they are worth.
Nicolina
08-10-2007, 12:05 AM
Jeez, guys.
I understand that it's a little offputting when someone says, essentially, "I donate to charities anonymously!" (prompting the question, why bother to do it anonymously if you're gonna talk about it!?!)
Okay, yes, I get that.
However....manipulative????? That seems a bit...ridiculous. How, exactly, does TOO manipulate the behavior of the women on this board, other than encouraging some, perhaps, to e-flirt a little more intensely, to PM him, maybe to post about their personal tragedies in the vague hope that he might take notice and help them out? I'm not sure that really counts as manipulation on his part. Even if it does, couldn't you say that the manipulation might, in fact, be mutual?
Yes, a significant disparity in means can certainly "skew the dynamic" in a real-life relationship. It can be difficult to navigate that. But my understanding is that he was speaking primarily of people he has no relationship with outside of this board. (I should say that he doesn't discuss any details with me. I know about as much as you guys do re: these transactions. I'm okay with it. It's part of who he is.)
And y'know, that's the bottom line. He's being who he is. Would you call JZ or GenWar "manipulative" for portraying themselves as great guys, ideal low-maintenance customers who understand the game, who any of us would love to have as regulars? I bet they get a lot of flirty pm's, too, just for being who they are. Would you call mr. punk "manipulative" for goading Jenny and Ev into smackdowns over on the blue side? That's just the way he is. (And I bet he doesn't get a lot of flirty PM's!) The generosity thing is a little tricky, though, isn't it? In RL, in SC, you can convey that you are generous by simply being generous. On a message board, not so much. Unless you mention it. If it weren't such a big part of who he is, I might not be so understanding. But it is. Is it a little pathological? Yeah, probably. But you know what? Feeling compelled to be generous toward people who are hurting is not, imho, the worst personality flaw a guy could have. And that's all I have to say about that. :-X
Sorry for the threadjack.
(On the original topic: I never did the sugar daddy thing when I was dancing. It seemed that you had to give away too much of yourself...not sexually, but in other ways. Or maybe I just wasn't cute enough to pull one. ;))
Callyish
08-10-2007, 12:33 AM
Hmm... I don't see how TOO manipulates girls... Personally I think hes a wonderful guy *shrug*
Though I know him openly talking about helping girls out and sending money n what not can make things a bit uncomfortable and over whelming :(
*steps back out of thread and goes to have her way with Nicolina*
miabella
08-10-2007, 12:47 AM
if TOO is generous with those who are hurting, he is not far removed from many strippers in affect if not method.
Vyanka
08-10-2007, 07:27 AM
EEEPPP! I really think I found one that piques my interest on that site that holiday posted. He doesn't live around these parts, either, which is an added bonus as well. What to do? What to do? :-\
LOL. I was looking through there too, and i'm just as clueless. :-[
At the same time, IDK. I'm kind of scared to meet somone off the internet.