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miabella
10-09-2006, 01:44 AM
or, some girls like it. that's also a possibility. :-P although i am happy to give credence to the acting theory.
pinkkitten
10-09-2006, 02:04 AM
I'm aware i am in the minority but i do not mind grinding, evn if it is for the majority of the song. ok, i admit it, i am lazy and find it easier that dancing in front of the customers. however. i would prefer one way contact, since i do not like being grabbed, groped, squeezed, licked, sucked, pinched, ect, the list of physical abuse goes on. of course, i am lucky that the dances at my club cost 40 dollars and not less and the songs are cut ultra short becuase i am sure i would hate any contact at all for 10 bucks and a whole song. to each their own, but yeah there is such thing as a girl that doesnt mind the grinding. although i had been too intimidated to post that fact on this thread up until now.
Bridgette
10-09-2006, 02:18 AM
Yeah, there's a difference between "not minding" and "liking it". I don't mind it either, but if I had to say whether I REALLY like it, I'd have to say no. I have never in my life heard of a stripper who honestly truly liked the grinding or licking, etc. I understand some choose it out of laziness, but that doesn't really count. That's not choosing it because they LIKE it, but because they consider it EASIER, which is different.
/ arguing :P
Stripper Fan
10-09-2006, 12:14 PM
::) You mean you like a girl who likes GRINDING, right? There's always gotta be a man to downtalk our HYPOTHETICAL wishful thinking ::) Just let us wish, ok? None of us actually LIKE grinding or letting strangers lick or suck on us. Any girl whose eyes express that she likes it, is a really good actress ;)
Then "none of you" should be dancing...
Come to think of it, this is just stupid. Fuck strip clubs. I'm done.
scarlett_vancouver
10-09-2006, 12:32 PM
Hee hee hee.
I love hissy fits!
Then "none of you" should be dancing...
Come to think of it, this is just stupid. Fuck strip clubs. I'm done.
Cally
10-09-2006, 12:41 PM
I actually dont mind grinding... I cant seem to master the whole 'stand in front of a guy and wiggle my hips' thing... I feel like an idiot doing it and honestly I dont like it. I like being able to sit on a guys lap, I like grinding a bit(not excessive) and titty slapping lol. As long as the guy keeps his hands to himself. Though I do like it when a guy puts his hands on my hips or rubs my back while im dancing. As long as he isnt making a grab for my tits or coochie all is good.
Izabella
10-09-2006, 04:43 PM
^^^ sheesh! Poor, poor little stripper fan. It appears we ruined the fantasy: we all just love getting touched by random guys and this is the only way to get our rocks off. Poor, poor, pouting like a 5 year old stripper fan.
As for me, I much prefer one way contact to no-contact. I feel that I give a better dance, I'm not constantly worried about, "am I getting to close and breaking the rules?", and they are easier to sell. I can handle two way contact, but I don't like it.
Kaiyla
10-09-2006, 05:38 PM
HAHAAHA!! None of us should be dancing because we don't like it? What a CROCK.
So basically Stripper Fan is saying is that nobody is entitled to do their job unless they enjoy what they are doing? For example, a janitor who might mop puke off of a cafeteria floor -he shouldn't be entitled to do his job just because he doesn't enjoy it? He should just quit and forget about the family he might have to be feeding with that janitor salary. Real smart rationale.
Imagine if every employed person in the world subscribed to such delusional reasoning, "If you don't like your job then you shouldn't be doing it," half the country would be unemployed!
Ugh, Number One example of "customer thinking" that makes me happy to be retired. ::)
LilSweetVixen
10-09-2006, 07:06 PM
First I voted no because it's easier to make money doing lap dances, and I find them enjoyable, but then I remembered I used to work at a no-hustle club which was perfect. All you did was stage and then sat with whoever who wanted to, customers, dancers, waitresses, or bartenders until your next stage. I plan on going back to that club one day because those were the days.
tootsie
10-09-2006, 07:32 PM
i prefer to lap dance. you make more.
jaizaine
10-09-2006, 10:40 PM
I bet you'd all prefer to to keep your cloths on and converse with men at a rate of $100 per hour...
See, I like a dancer who likes dancing. I can see it in a girls eyes if she doesn't and I'm immediately turned off.
actually id prefer $100 an hour and not having to converse with men lol!
it's pretty unrealistic to think of a dancer as something "special" between you and the dancer and as if she is really enjoying dancing for you, if you weren't paying do u think she would give u a dance for free just coz she enjoys it?
miabella
10-09-2006, 10:47 PM
part of the reason i burnt out so hard with dancing is that i did enjoy contact with many of my customers, and they simply consistently refused to believe that or give it credence. their disbelief chipped away at my affection for them.
evan_essence
10-13-2006, 03:19 PM
Unfortunately, if all clubs suddenly adhered to air dances, many customers would simply stay home and engage in interactive Internet porn. Realistically, some level of contact has to be included for there to be any advantage over the home version. Personally, I always did better financially in a light two-way contact environment that was strictly enforced.
Whatever the level, uniformity, to me, is the key to comfort and efficiency. Even with some contact, it's a whole lot more tolerable when the boundaries are set, understood, enforced and complied with.
-Ev
Chicagoeditor
10-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Even with some contact, it's a whole lot more tolerable when the boundaries are set, understood, enforced and complied with.
-Ev
Are you sure you're a dancer and not a lawyer?
Bridgette
10-13-2006, 03:53 PM
Whatever the level, uniformity, to me, is the key to comfort and efficiency. Even with some contact, it's a whole lot more tolerable when the boundaries are set, understood, enforced and complied with.
-EvAgreed with that. While I might fantasize about being able to make great money with airdancing again, it's just not realistic. The biggest problem in the biz now is the practical free-for-all most clubs have become. No clear boundaries and little or no enforcement, or enforcement only when it's convenient or necessary for the clubowners ::) The best money-making clubs are those that have some clear boundaries and stick to it.
shakti
10-13-2006, 08:40 PM
Agreed with that. While I might fantasize about being able to make great money with airdancing again, it's just not realistic. The biggest problem in the biz now is the practical free-for-all most clubs have become. No clear boundaries and little or no enforcement, or enforcement only when it's convenient or necessary for the clubowners ::) The best money-making clubs are those that have some clear boundaries and stick to it.
Yes, this is what came to drive me crazy and feel very uncomfortable about stripping in the last few years. The free-for-all is unnerving, it's hard to know what to allow, what to charge, not to mention knowing what is actually legal. If two way contact or even blatant prostitution were legal it would be an easier environment to work in because you would know exactly what you could allow and for how much. I feel like there is no longer a clear distinction between what goes on on the floor vs. VIP. Of course you can set your own limits but when the dancer right next to you has different boundaries it makes it harder to upsell. Consistency is the key to a happy and well run club.
The idea of making big money with no contact stripping is such a foreign concept to dancers now they can't even allow themselves to fantasize about it.
Bridgette
10-14-2006, 03:27 AM
The idea of making big money with no contact stripping is such a foreign concept to dancers now they can't even allow themselves to fantasize about it.Which is, of course, the reason for all the posts from girls saying they prefer contact - they're girls who never knew what it was like to make MORE money with LESS contact :O Obviously this is a generalization but I'm betting it's pretty accurate nonetheless....
Milachku
10-14-2006, 09:55 AM
I think the word here is 'tolerate'. I remember when I went to visit my girl at the club she worked at which had only air dances. I was sitting down having a perrier while watching her on stage when I looked over at the table next to me. I saw a dancer sitting with a customer whom I later found out was a regular and very connected in the mafia. He had his arm around the dancer and began giving her kisses on her cheek. Well, there are kisses and then there are kisses. And it was clear he was pushing as far as it would go although I dont think he did land one on her lips.
The thing is that I could see by the look on the dancer's face was that she clearly didnt like it and kept her head down with her arms crossed. I figured that since this guy was rich and well connected then her complaining might get herself in trouble instead of him.
So I understand what you all mean when you say you dont mind it being light one or two way contact, but at the same time if making money in a no-contact club was easier when you lived in a city where most clubs are contact (montreal) then most would be for it.
Pretty_Penny
10-14-2006, 12:01 PM
to all of the "i can tell when a stripper likes to dance for me" types of comments:
there are exceptions, i'm sure, but i can tell you i've heard those lines from at least 75% of the guys i've danced for. "see i like you, i can tell you really like doing this. i can tell you're into me. i know when girls are bullshitting. i'm not stupid like those other guys". and i assure you that i've actually been "into" maybe 1 out of every 60 of them. let me say though, that this is all without saying i want to date them or lying in that way at all. i've known a lot of dancers, and the same is true for all of the ones i've really gotten to know. that doesn't mean i hated dancing for the guys i wasn't attracted to (which is almost all of them). i actually enjoy dancing when the customer is being respectfull/kind and treating me like a person. all i'm saying is that most of the guys i've danced for have walked away thinking i was really turned on by the dance, and most all of them are wrong. what most guys are seeing in the eyes of a dancer, is her level of commitment toward the ILLUSION that is a great private dance. most of the time, enjoying giving a private dance has little to nothing to do with actual interest in the customer. besides of course, that how kind/nice/etc they are is a fact.
miabella
10-14-2006, 10:20 PM
that's pretty funny. i generally was 'into it', and i never got guys telling me they could see i liked dancing for them.