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sander8son
10-19-2006, 05:18 PM
Deogol, ever been to a strip club more than once in your life?

**Adendum** So if you're mostly worried about unwanted children, is it ok to give/recieve bj's for money?

Deogol
10-19-2006, 06:13 PM
Deogol, ever been to a strip club more than once in your life?

**Adendum** So if you're mostly worried about unwanted children, is it ok to give/recieve bj's for money?



I have posted my position multiple times and all I am hearing back is how we should sterilize non-whites.

You simply are not that persuasive.

mblank
10-19-2006, 06:17 PM
Sorry to hop in on this debate so late, but here is my .02-

-Prostitution is here to stay

-As was stated earlier, illegal prostitution makes both the John and the Prostitute criminals, therefore, I believe it should be decriminalised. The government shouldn't have a right to tell us what to do with our dicks or vagina's.

-I am not sure I agree with the government legalizing it and regulating it, as the government does a piss-poor job regulating anything

-Prostitutes and John's do not make unwanted babies and spread diseases, only stupid people do

-Sander8son, I believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with two consenting adults exchanging money for a blowjob, provided all measures for health and sanitation have been taken

-Strippers are members of the sex industry, even more so these days, so everyone needs to stop acting "holier than thou" when it comes to prostitution. And by the way, for all you strippers who think prostitutes are ignorant, guess what they think about you?

JMHO

sander8son
10-19-2006, 06:43 PM
You simply are not that persuasive.

obviously, neither are you. :-X

TheSexKitten
10-23-2006, 09:38 AM
hah, she edited "pleasures" to contact after i posted that stripping is providing sexual pleasure. way to be a douche.

excellent points SC

Apparantly, you found a loophole in the way I worded what I said the first time. So, to make my statement more clear, I changed the wording. Calling women douches over a silly argument is a fucking low-life thing to do.

Deogol
10-23-2006, 07:46 PM
obviously, neither are you. :-X

One cannot reason with a rock.

flickad
03-24-2007, 11:14 PM
No, i'm not saying that i'm a prostitute. I am not. Having come from Australia where they have legalized prostitution, i can say that it has affected the stripping industry, and the amount of money made by STRIPPERS as STRIPPERS.
It is all the sex industry.
What do you mean prostitution is bad? Illegal prostitution? Morally? How do you personally see stripping as different from prostitution? How should it be dealt with?
Maybe you should go to preachyasshole.com. Do you even have any opinions that aren't second hand? Let me guess....you're born again :D

Agreed. At least if it's legalised, prostitution can be regulated and many of the abuses removed from the profession. The government can also mandate health checks, as they have in much of Australia, thus helping to prevent the spread of disease.

Prostitutution, bad, good or indifferent, is always going to exist in some form or other. We as societies are best off accepting this and adopting a practice of harm minimisation, which means legalisation.

flickad
03-24-2007, 11:18 PM
if its legal and regulated and licensed like in Holland, then it would be fine but prostitution like in the video must be eliminated completely bec its very bad for society. Plus lot of minors in prostitution that is totally unacceptable.

Of course minors in prostitution is unacceptable, as is unregulated prostitution. But to say that prostitution should be illegal across the board is to promote bad social policy. There will always be men willing to pay for sex, just as there will always be women willing to sell it. To criminalise prostitution without exception is essentially to drive it underground, where it is unregulated and where abuses such as pimping and child prostitution may come into play.

flickad
03-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Prostitution doesn't need to be legalised, it needs to be decriminalised. In the parts of Nevada that have legalised prostitution, conditions are even worse than they are for most illegal hookers. They are banned from being outside after dark, they have no right to say no to a customer, they are forced to have sex even if they're sick or having a bad period, they go weeks on end without seeing their families, they only keep about half what they make... the government can be a pretty nasty pimp.

I say we decriminalise it - just repeal the laws against it and let the free market do its thing.

That may be the case in Nevada, America being a more puritanical country than most in the West, but it certainly isn't in other Western countries that have legalised and regulated prostitution. What's required in Victoria, Australia, for instance, is nothing more onerous than a license, an ABN (for tax purposes), a monthly sexual health check and condoms. There is also the right to refuse a customer in all cases (for brothels to disallow this would be to violate Victorian rape and indecent assault laws) and prostitutes go home at the end of their shift like anyone else. Tax rates are determined according to earnings.

(No, I'm not a prostitute, but I know two girls who have been).

flickad
03-24-2007, 11:27 PM
Should we legalize murder because people have always done it since the beginning?

Murder actually snuffs out a life. There is a clear victim involved. Prostitution, if carried out between adults consensually and safely, is victimless. I think it's often an unhealthy thing for a woman to do, emotionally speaking (though not in all cases), but I don't believe in legislating personal choice where there's no-one actually hurt.

TheSexKitten
03-24-2007, 11:33 PM
You know what? There are plenty of promiscuous men and women out there already, condoms or not. So what's the harm in a little cash transaction? meh

Kalligirl
03-25-2007, 12:51 AM
What is sooooooo wrong with paying for sex?

Do I? No.

But, there are people out there who can't get laid, sex addictions, wife ain't doin it.. so you can go to a strip club and dabble or get a hooker and dive in. I think it would be great if it was legalized/decriminalized whatever.

Are our puritan values still this strong after all these years geeze!

Melonie
03-25-2007, 03:47 AM
I kept my nose out of this debate the 'first time around'. However this latest set of posts bring up all the points about decriminalized prostitution which are pertinent to the American strip club market. In point of fact, some 80% of the American strip club market volume depends on the 'puritanism' that still remains.

Put another way, perhaps 20% of American strip club market volume stems from low / no contact 'show clubs' where guys pay for entertainment, whereas the remaining 80% stems from middle of the road or high contact clubs where guys pay for the 'hope' of getting lucky. If prostitution were to be decriminalized in America on a wide scale, the 80% would quickly change from money being spent in the 'hope' of getting lucky to money being spent in exchange for the certainty of sex being provided.

This change would be fine for girls that don't wish to be sex providers and who are also able to get hired / work in the 'show clubs'. This change would also be great for the girls who already provide sex for money in high contact clubs. However, this change would essentially leave all of the girls wo do not wish to be sex providers, and who cannot get hired / work in 'show clubs', without a place to 'just dance' and still earn more money than a WalMart clerk.