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Katrine
11-03-2006, 06:57 PM
I read Memoirs and really liked it. The movie was on the other day, but it was already sucking, so I stopped watching. She has grey eyes in the novel, there isn't anything race-specific about that.
mollyzmoon
11-03-2006, 09:18 PM
The book was amazing; the movie sucked so hard. Like, honestly. Gong Li should've had more screen time. That woman is breathtaking.
Lysondra
11-03-2006, 09:39 PM
I just kept wondering why there was only one Japanese actor in the whole film. Wasn't the main character a Chinese actress? Wtf? It offended a lot of my Japanese friends. 'Oh we all look SO alike, you can interchange us!' Sorry people, but even I can tell normally.
TheSexKitten
11-03-2006, 11:36 PM
I just kept wondering why there was only one Japanese actor in the whole film.
Umm, the Japanese people in the film included:
Ken Watanabe, Karl Yune, Suzuka Ohgo, Koji Yakusho, Youki Kudoh, Kaori Momoi, Hiroyuki Tagawa...
The big-name factor did kind of irk me too, because Ken W. is a big enough name to draw quite a bit of attention to the film for American audiences.
/begin rant! and if the others can't be bothered to learn Japanese, or how to speak in a Japanese accent, or at least to lose a damn Mandarin accent (ZHANG), they shouldn't be bothered to be in a movie about a sensitive cultural Japanese tradition. /end rant!
The discrepancies in the authenticity of the hair and makeup upset me most. Very watered-down. :(
greentea
11-04-2006, 03:37 AM
Asian strippers rock!
BlackSheEp3
11-04-2006, 08:08 AM
Asian strippers rock!
lol out of the blue...
RoseWhite
11-04-2006, 09:58 AM
^^^That just sums up the thread, right? After the initial exchange about where to find them, why he likes them and so on, a lively discussion develops - mostly between dancers, but a few customers offering insights as well - about the nuances of various cultural influences, family dynamics, and the often complex if sublte differences between all the ethnicities that sometimes get clumsily lumped together underneath the "Asian" umbrella. Maybe we've all even learned a little something.
And then the original poster chimes in again, after the above discussion, to add his $0.02, and what does he have to add to the lively conversation?
"Asian strippers rock!"
I'm just sayin'.
greentea
11-04-2006, 06:22 PM
^^^That just sums up the thread, right? After the initial exchange about where to find them, why he likes them and so on, a lively discussion develops - mostly between dancers, but a few customers offering insights as well - about the nuances of various cultural influences, family dynamics, and the often complex if sublte differences between all the ethnicities that sometimes get clumsily lumped together underneath the "Asian" umbrella. Maybe we've all even learned a little something.
And then the original poster chimes in again, after the above discussion, to add his $0.02, and what does he have to add to the lively conversation?
"Asian strippers rock!"
I'm just sayin'.
lol
Im just posting the bottom line,which is "asian strippers rock!"=)
All the other stuff about cultural differences,interracial dating etc was all irrelevant to this thread.The original thread was about why there arent MORE Asian strippers because clearly Asian strippers got it goin on =) maybe I should open up my own Asian strip club? now thats an idea! ;)
sassfire
11-04-2006, 07:02 PM
In conclusion, we have learned according to some that we should all live together in harmony. That it stupid to seperate people according to their creed, race, or religion. That parents shouldn't question who their children brings home. Yes, we should all spill out the "lovey dovey hippie" rhetoric. Yet someone pops up and makes me come to one important conclusion. What people utter from their mouth is one thing, and what people ACTUALLY THINK is another thing.
Everyone is prejudice, it is human nature. So be it.
Windy
11-05-2006, 02:05 AM
i live in hawaii, and there are plenty asian dancers. myself, for one :)
at my club, its mostly all asians.
Emily
11-05-2006, 10:57 AM
So.... read the book or see the movie? Does one enhance the other, or just ruins it. Anyway I read 3 books about asian families (chinese). 2 of Tan's, the Joy luck club and another titled husbands something. I read White Orchid one of the better ones. Just sharing useless info.
I think the movie was difficult to follow if you hadn't read the book.
I mean, you can tell by the title that it's about character development and not really the plot. So definitely the book is worth reading.
And another note about the blue eyes. They were important in the story because it was why she was considered so striking as a child (and thus why the Okiya bought her.) It was also how the chairman recognized her years later.
greentea
11-05-2006, 12:02 PM
i live in hawaii, and there are plenty asian dancers. myself, for one :)
at my club, its mostly all asians.
Wish your club was in So.Cali ;)
mark069
11-05-2006, 05:20 PM
I just wanted to follow up on the preference for Asians some men have because I noticed the men who liked Asian dancers were being stereotyped as having an "Asian Fetish". Yeah, there are some men who have a fetish but those are usually men who haven't ever dated an Asian women....
Anyway, many men have a preference for Asian looks just like some men prefer the "blonde barbie doll" type look. I personally prefer petite women also so if the Asian women is taller than say 5'8" (pretty rare) I find that less appealing.
So if there are any black, hispanic or caucasian women who:
- Have that beautiful Asian tan skin tone
- Have really soft skin and never have to shave her legs
- Have alluring almond shaped eyes
- Beautiful feet
- Petite perky boobs with erasor nipples
- Naturally have very little body hair so their pussy looks trimmed (without them having to trim it!)
- Full lips and high cheekbones
I would also be attracted to them - so you see it actually has nothing to do with a preference for Asians....
sassfire
11-05-2006, 08:31 PM
None of those things you mention are unique onto asians. Plus some asians, just like some women have opposite characteristics to what you mentioned in that list. In hairstylist magazines for black women, asian women are also featured. This isn't done to better up or pretty up the magazine, it is done because they want to feature a style on her hair. All in all, when a woman is on the stage for you. She is beautiful. God, genetics, and/or mother nature made her beautiful. Not because she was born from parents who are from an asian country. Show her that you appreciate her beauty by giving her a tip or 2 or 20.
greentea
11-05-2006, 09:52 PM
None of those things you mention are unique onto asians. Plus some asians, just like some women have opposite characteristics to what you mentioned in that list. In hairstylist magazines for black women, asian women are also featured. This isn't done to better up or pretty up the magazine, it is done because they want to feature a style on her hair. All in all, when a woman is on the stage for you. She is beautiful. God, genetics, and/or mother nature made her beautiful. Not because she was born from parents who are from an asian country. Show her that you appreciate her beauty by giving her a tip or 2 or 20.
It doesnt matter if those charactaristics are "unique" to Asians or not,some people just prefer Asian girls,end of story.
mark069
11-05-2006, 11:25 PM
None of those things you mention are unique onto asians. Plus some asians, just like some women have opposite characteristics to what you mentioned in that list. In hairstylist magazines for black women, asian women are also featured. This isn't done to better up or pretty up the magazine, it is done because they want to feature a style on her hair. All in all, when a woman is on the stage for you. She is beautiful. God, genetics, and/or mother nature made her beautiful. Not because she was born from parents who are from an asian country. Show her that you appreciate her beauty by giving her a tip or 2 or 20.
Like I said, if I find a woman who has all of the characteristics I mentioned, I would be very attracted to her. Asian women usually tend to have MOST of those characteristics I mentioned but I don't ask them if they are Asian. I see a woman who I am drawn to physically and that's it.
You know that there are also a lot of Asian girls who are attracted to white guys and they catch a lot of crap for their preference also. Likewise black guys who prefer white women also get stereotyped.
When a woman is on stage she would be beautiful (in my opinion) if she had the physical characteristics I am attracted to. SHE would get my attention and my tips. When a woamn I am not attracted to is dancing, I am generally no where near the stage so it's unlikely she will get tips from me. Of course, if I get stuck at the stage between the dances of two beautiful Asian women (occasionally happens in San Francisco) I will tip the woman dancing as a courtesy....
miabella
11-05-2006, 11:36 PM
preferences aren't born in a vacuum. you didn't just tumble out of the womb 'preferring' one sort of ethnicity over another. that line of reasoning is total BS.
pinkkitten
11-06-2006, 12:40 AM
I'm just glad mark069 has posted some actual reasons. it helps to satisfy my curiosity. and they make sense to me.
sassfire
11-06-2006, 01:22 PM
It doesnt matter if those charactaristics are "unique" to Asians or not,some people just prefer Asian girls,end of story.
That's nice. All strippers enjoy your $ so tip her. You don't have to get a vip or lapdance with her, but give her a tip.
mark069
11-06-2006, 09:50 PM
preferences aren't born in a vacuum. you didn't just tumble out of the womb 'preferring' one sort of ethnicity over another. that line of reasoning is total BS.
I guess not. The college I went to was 50% Asian so that's probably when I first started to realize I preferred Asian features and looks....
kittenkat
11-06-2006, 10:30 PM
MOAG rant on/
FYI, the book in terms of any cultural accuracy is... really distorted. Please don't read MOAG and think that it's factual- a lot of things are pure fiction in there. That's what I hate about the book- ppl read the damn thing and think they know all about Geishas. Sorry, the book is fiction, and there's tons of fictional accounts and cultural misrepresentation, so enjoy the story. I'm ranting because I've had so mny people correct me about things they read about X in "MOAG"... Jesus, I studied Japanese culture and Geisha culture in college, in addition to being Japanese. ARGH.
/MOAG rant off
The thing is, a lot of women would get pissed if a guy said "I'm an ass man. I'll date you only 'cuz you have a fine ass." To most asian women, when a guy says, "I love asian women. That's all I date" it's a similar type of *YUK* response. Most guys that are so fixated on having a certain kind of "look" isn't worth my time for the most part anyway. I've had my share of guys that tried to pick up on me for no other reason than being asian, and it gets fucking old after a while.
Women get flak from men for doing whatever seems inconvenient, whether it's dating within, outside or your race/class/religion or having sex or enjoying sex or not having sex or what have you. Dating in or out of your race gives no indication of anything. It's the reasons why you date inside or outside your race that points to whether you're a self-loathing, a dumbass, a racist or actually a thoughtful human being. Some of the biggest misogynist racists I've ever met in my life were the non-asian guys that "only dates asian." BARF.
sassfire
11-07-2006, 08:46 AM
MOAG rant on/
FYI, the book in terms of any cultural accuracy is... really distorted. Please don't read MOAG and think that it's factual- a lot of things are pure fiction in there. That's what I hate about the book- ppl read the damn thing and think they know all about Geishas. Sorry, the book is fiction, and there's tons of fictional accounts and cultural misrepresentation, so enjoy the story. I'm ranting because I've had so mny people correct me about things they read about X in "MOAG"... Jesus, I studied Japanese culture and Geisha culture in college, in addition to being Japanese. ARGH.
/MOAG rant off
The thing is, a lot of women would get pissed if a guy said "I'm an ass man. I'll date you only 'cuz you have a fine ass." To most asian women, when a guy says, "I love asian women. That's all I date" it's a similar type of *YUK* response. Most guys that are so fixated on having a certain kind of "look" isn't worth my time for the most part anyway. I've had my share of guys that tried to pick up on me for no other reason than being asian, and it gets fucking old after a while.
Women get flak from men for doing whatever seems inconvenient, whether it's dating within, outside or your race/class/religion or having sex or enjoying sex or not having sex or what have you. Dating in or out of your race gives no indication of anything. It's the reasons why you date inside or outside your race that points to whether you're a self-loathing, a dumbass, a racist or actually a thoughtful human being. Some of the biggest misogynist racists I've ever met in my life were the non-asian guys that "only dates asian." BARF.
Just when I think no one sees my point, along comes someone who does. I am light skinned black woman with hazel eyes. I know the black men who prefer white women ONLY consider me because they THINK I am mixed (both parents are black).
TheSexKitten
11-07-2006, 11:35 AM
MOAG rant on/
FYI, the book in terms of any cultural accuracy is... really distorted. Please don't read MOAG and think that it's factual- a lot of things are pure fiction in there. That's what I hate about the book- ppl read the damn thing and think they know all about Geishas. Sorry, the book is fiction, and there's tons of fictional accounts and cultural misrepresentation, so enjoy the story. I'm ranting because I've had so mny people correct me about things they read about X in "MOAG"... Jesus, I studied Japanese culture and Geisha culture in college, in addition to being Japanese. ARGH.
/MOAG rant off
The thing is, a lot of women would get pissed if a guy said "I'm an ass man. I'll date you only 'cuz you have a fine ass." To most asian women, when a guy says, "I love asian women. That's all I date" it's a similar type of *YUK* response. Most guys that are so fixated on having a certain kind of "look" isn't worth my time for the most part anyway. I've had my share of guys that tried to pick up on me for no other reason than being asian, and it gets fucking old after a while.
Women get flak from men for doing whatever seems inconvenient, whether it's dating within, outside or your race/class/religion or having sex or enjoying sex or not having sex or what have you. Dating in or out of your race gives no indication of anything. It's the reasons why you date inside or outside your race that points to whether you're a self-loathing, a dumbass, a racist or actually a thoughtful human being. Some of the biggest misogynist racists I've ever met in my life were the non-asian guys that "only dates asian." BARF.
For each paragraph I give you a huge AMEN!
Sums up everything,
mark069
11-08-2006, 12:37 AM
I reiterate what some else has said earlier: What men seek in a strip club is usually solely based on fantasy and what men seek in a relationship (i.e. dating) is usually NOT based on fantasy at all.
This debate is so rediculous because EVERY stripper is selected by men in the club based on her looks. There's men who like really specific physical traits like blonde hair, big tits, long legs and there's men who look for a certain type of look be it exotic Asian type or blonde Swedish type or Ebony Goddess type. If as a stripper, you get offended because a guy selects you for a lap dance becuase of your "look", you are probably in the wrong profession....
Eevee
11-08-2006, 11:15 AM
This debate is so rediculous because EVERY stripper is selected by men in the club based on her looks.
Exactly. People are always so keen to play the race card, "Oh I'm not getting dances because I'm of this colour or this race," when they should just step back and take a good at themselves as a person.
greentea
11-09-2006, 12:11 AM
That's nice. All strippers enjoy your $ so tip her. You don't have to get a vip or lapdance with her, but give her a tip.
Why should a guy spend his hard earned money on a tip for a girl he doesnt find attractive?
tips shouldnt be mandatory or expected.
I will only tip dancers I am attracted to,if your not my type then Im sorry than my money isnt for you.Tough breaks,but some other guy will be more than happy to tip you,and no I dont feel bad at all.
sassfire
11-09-2006, 03:19 PM
Okay then.
screamqueen2000
11-09-2006, 05:30 PM
interesting post. i am asian and i danced for about a year and a hafl at the end of my college career (graduated may 2006) now i have a very good full time job which i dont enjoy very much but hey its money. anyways i danced at about 2 clubs and i did mostly private work and i was always the only asian dancer and because of that i made pretty decent money. i dont really understand the fetishes that some guys have towards asian women, but whatever i mean it helped my business so i sure aint going to complain. i was never offended when someone told me how they loved asian women or anything i was just flattered. i have a great boyfriend now who is white and has admitted to me that he did alwyas find asian women attractive but i know now that it doesnt mean he finds ALL asian women attractive. i come from a very traditional, immigrant (i moved to the country when i was 10) family and it would be literally the end of hte world if my family found out that i did this. soooo i dont know, just wnated ot put my 2 cents in!
forcefit
11-09-2006, 10:02 PM
The reason women get peeved is that a man that truly chooses women by race & assumed behavioral traits is a short-sighted person & they don't want much to do with him.
EDIT: (after thinking back on dating experience) He probably has emotional problems too.Well, women racial-profile when dating or socially-interacting too...so get over it.
Maybe you have, but every full blooded Asian I have ever known were forced by their parents to date only-Asian, and not only Asians; specific Asians from specific provinces.Lol, American-born Asians outdate the most out of any race in the US. I think many Asian parents would prefer their kids dated Asians (for reasons already stated like being taken in later on, higher non-Asian divorce rates, etc), but hardly force them to. The statistics (http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial2.shtml) bear this out too, so I don't know how you can make that ridiculous exaggeration, unless you have some personal axe to grind or issues to project...
greentea
11-09-2006, 10:16 PM
interesting post. i am asian and i danced for about a year and a hafl at the end of my college career (graduated may 2006) now i have a very good full time job which i dont enjoy very much but hey its money. anyways i danced at about 2 clubs and i did mostly private work and i was always the only asian dancer and because of that i made pretty decent money. i dont really understand the fetishes that some guys have towards asian women, but whatever i mean it helped my business so i sure aint going to complain. i was never offended when someone told me how they loved asian women or anything i was just flattered. i have a great boyfriend now who is white and has admitted to me that he did alwyas find asian women attractive but i know now that it doesnt mean he finds ALL asian women attractive. i come from a very traditional, immigrant (i moved to the country when i was 10) family and it would be literally the end of hte world if my family found out that i did this. soooo i dont know, just wnated ot put my 2 cents in!
I think its so cute your dating a white guy =) I know some people in this thread would look down on it and tell you to stick to your race,but I think its way more romantic when love conquer racial lines =) good for you guys!
Im white and my girl is asian too (pinay)
kittenkat
11-09-2006, 11:19 PM
^^ Your comment says it all. It's not "cute" for any race to be dating people of same or different races. I don't care what race people date- as long as they're not assholes about it. I've seen X folks act like they're all that because they only date X- and I've also seen Y folks act like they're a special snowflake because they only date outside of the race. IMHO, they're both idiots marching to a pretty similar drummer of idiocy. It's not "way more romantic" when love conquers racial lines, it's simply what it is.
Insinuating that folks here that happen to have partners of the same race as having a relationship that's less "cute" and "romantic" is really asinine. Relationships take a lot of work, and any challenge that comes with it is what is it- the need to flaunt their "superiority" or shove down other ppl's throats regarding their dating choices sicken me. It's really sweet that you need other couples to reflect and approve your relationship, but that points to your ass being rather needy and shallow. It's a private issue, keep it private and gloat to your own fucking self because anyone with a fucking brain could care less about dating choices of other people. I've dated guys from my own nationality, race and also outside of my race. You can't please veryone- someone ends up being pissed. Again, as women- and esp minority women- women will always get flak from men regardless of what they do.
Yeah, I'll call you a dumbass for over-romanticizing (and in the end, trivializing) interracial dating with your bitbrained comments. Actually, it's overbearing and insecure jerks like you that cast a negative light on interracial couples that aren't assholes.
i was never offended when someone told me how they loved asian women or anything i was just flattered.
Good for you, my miles varied greatly. My friend is a blonde stripper, and she makes bank of all the guys that tell her they love blondes and only date blondes. In real life, she sticks to men that appreciate the whole package- not get blinded simply by her platinum highlights. I don't get offended when a guy of any race says that he finds many asian women to be attractive per se- I do get offended when "being asian" takes the top of the list (and you eventually find out that it's often for all the wrong reasons) and becomes fetishistic. I'm not a shoe, car or an inanimate object- I'm a fucking human individual. If you can't understand that racial fetishism is inherently racist, you're a dumbass that I'm not gonna waste my time talking to. There's tons of fetishes, race is just one of them, and it fucking sucks (thought some women do benefit from it).
greentea
11-09-2006, 11:26 PM
I think it takes alot more love and passion from each person to date interracially knowing they are gonna get crap for it,but still want to do it.Than simply dating your own race which is the "safe boring thing" to do.In my opinin I think its more romantic to date outside your race,its bascially saying "yea Im gonna get heat for it,but I love this person so I dont care"...something a same race relationship can't relate to.
its kind of Romeo and Juliet-ish...2 different people from 2 different backrounds,but love each other so much they try to make it work,thats how I see interracial couples.
forcefit
11-09-2006, 11:42 PM
kittenkat - Careful, you're destroying all of greentea's stereotypes of Asian women as easily-patronized/flattered and manhandled children!
its kind of Romeo and Juliet-ish...2 different people from 2 different backrounds,but love each other so much they try to make it work,thats how I see interracial couples.Actually, the White geek/Asian girl combo is pretty commonplace and accepted these days due to mainstream racial stereotypes. You are actually going with the grain there, not against it.
Nonetheless, opposites may attract, but likes last. I'm guessing you're still in your early 20s, because Romeo & Juliet is really a childish fairytale that doesn't appeal to mature adults.
You grow up the day when.... (http://nordicandtex.blogspot.com/2006/10/you-grow-up-day-when.html)
5. The day "Romeo and Juliet" was no longer a classic love story of “two star-crossed lovers,” but instead you think: thank God they died when they did, because if they had stayed together, a week later Juliet would sit up after sex and say “what now?” Fucking dumbasses don’t know the first thing about each other except “she’s pretty I think I’m love with her I think she’s my soulmate.” Right. Because love at first sight is real. ATTENTION NAĎVE DUMBASSES: LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT IS A MYTH PUT OUT BY PLAYS LIKE THIS. There is only lust at first sight. It is impossible to love someone without knowing anything about who they are except “pretty.” So, yeah, one week later, Romeo and Juliet would be saying “Well, fuck.” Pretty much up shit creek.
“Well-we have one thing in common- Want to talk about the ancient feud, or should we search for a new topic? You’re twelve, so….awkward, yeah….thank God we died in the end.”
kittenkat
11-10-2006, 12:38 AM
You're a dumbass if you think same-race couples can't go through major hurdles, you moron. My friend is old Charleston money, her soon to be husband is from a very poor family. What she's gone through to make things work for her has dwarfed any challenges I faced in my interracial relationships. Another friend of mine and her same race husband has stuck together despite his massive injury, which has left him seriously disabled and unable to work as a firefighter. Ditto. Another friend is from a devout catholic family- her parents had the biggest shitfit I've ever seen when they found out her new BF is Buddhist.
Ha! Romeo and Juliet! I take it you're planning on double suicide? I'll write the obituary for you.
Again, I've dated in and out of my race- and all relationships are hard in their own way. Lemme give you a hint pal- your relationship (nor mine, for that matter) is really not any more special because of the race of your partner. You're not fucking special for dating in or out of your race, and your choice of Romeo and Juliet to describe your relationship is hilarious in its stupidity and speaks volumes for your (lack of) insight.
greentea
11-10-2006, 08:31 AM
wow kitten,you sound bitter lol chill out.Take a deep breathe,its gonna be ok ;)
sassfire
11-10-2006, 10:03 AM
I do get offended when "being asian" takes the top of the list (and you eventually find out that it's often for all the wrong reasons) and becomes fetishistic. I'm not a shoe, car or an inanimate object- I'm a fucking human individual. If you can't understand that racial fetishism is inherently racist, you're a dumbass
Fucking brilliant!!! You summed it all up for me. What a way to put out the truth, :great: .
kittenkat
11-10-2006, 10:08 AM
Greentea,
It's the guys that you that make interracial relationships look bad. I'm not bitter, I just had to deal with morons like you once too often. Working as a bartender wore away my patience for human beings fairly quickly.
*snort*
Romeo and Juliet. So juvenile...
sassfire
11-10-2006, 10:13 AM
As for the Romeo and Julliet comparison, I don't think you ever read the play or saw the film version. Neither Romeo nor Julliet knew who each other was. Remember that they first met at a masqerade ball. They fell for each other because of their first interaction to each other. Their family status, race, or etnic background did not play a part in their attraction to each other. Romeo when first meeting her didn't say "I like Julliet because she is Italian", he didn't know what she was. Romeo wasn't seeking out an Italien or refusing to get to know another race. According to your thinking, Greentea, you wouldn't even give Julliet the time of day. You wouldn't even be at the masquerade party. Why would you go to a party if you can't purposely see who you are hunting for. Your form of interracial dating is intentional, others are more by circumstance. They happened to fall in love with someone who was a different race.
greentea
11-10-2006, 07:14 PM
Greentea,
It's the guys that you that make interracial relationships look bad. I'm not bitter, I just had to deal with morons like you once too often. Working as a bartender wore away my patience for human beings fairly quickly.
*snort*
Romeo and Juliet. So juvenile...
so because I prefer a certain type of woman that makes me a moron? I guess having a "type" isnt allowed? get real.
EVERYONE has preferences,wheather its race,hair color,height etc...so if I prefer Asians so what? how does that make me a "moron" yet the guy who prefers blondes is ok? come on.
greentea
11-10-2006, 07:18 PM
I do get offended when "being asian" takes the top of the list (and you eventually find out that it's often for all the wrong reasons) and becomes fetishistic. I'm not a shoe, car or an inanimate object- I'm a fucking human individual. If you can't understand that racial fetishism is inherently racist, you're a dumbass
No your not a inanimate object,but your a stripper,and strippers are there to look pretty and make money.Your being judged on how you look,whether that means your judged on your body,race,smile etc.It goes with the terrority of being a stripper,sorry but lets face reality here.So be thankful there are guys out there that like Asian girls,otherwise you wouldnt be able to pay your rent :)
and quite frankly I couldnt care less if you dont "approve" of my preference,I like what I like.
greentea
11-10-2006, 07:23 PM
As for the Romeo and Julliet comparison, I don't think you ever read the play or saw the film version. Neither Romeo nor Julliet knew who each other was. Remember that they first met at a masqerade ball. They fell for each other because of their first interaction to each other. Their family status, race, or etnic background did not play a part in their attraction to each other. Romeo when first meeting her didn't say "I like Julliet because she is Italian", he didn't know what she was. Romeo wasn't seeking out an Italien or refusing to get to know another race. According to your thinking, Greentea, you wouldn't even give Julliet the time of day. You wouldn't even be at the masquerade party. Why would you go to a party if you can't purposely see who you are hunting for. Your form of interracial dating is intentional, others are more by circumstance. They happened to fall in love with someone who was a different race.
Yes my form of interracial dating is intentional,just like how some guys happen to always end up with blondes etc becaue that is what they find attractive...you know,its called having a TYPE.Maybe youve heard of it.
TheSexKitten
11-10-2006, 07:24 PM
:umbrella:
I guess you could say I have a fetish for Indian guys, but being Indian doesn't make a guy attractive nor do I limit myself to finding Indian men attractive. I guess in my case at least, it's just cool when a hot guy happens to be Indian. It's more rare/exotic.
So I suppose by your logic I am inherently racist. :(
greentea
11-10-2006, 07:28 PM
:umbrella:
I guess you could say I have a fetish for Indian guys, but being Indian doesn't make a guy attractive nor do I limit myself to finding Indian men attractive. I guess in my case at least, it's just cool when a hot guy happens to be Indian. It's more rare/exotic.
So I suppose by your logic I am inherently racist. :(
How dare you find a certain race attractive! you should ask kitten or sass if thats allowed.Apparently they are the "race dating police".
screamqueen2000
11-10-2006, 08:00 PM
kitten, i know where you are coming from. but as dancers, or a former dancer in my case, we represent fantasy to the customers that come in and we exploit their fantasies to make money off of them. I dont mean for that to sound bad in any way, but that is what we do - we play the role of whatever fantasies the customers have in their minds when they pick us for a dance or a vip whether or not we are aware of what the fantasy might be. and if their fantasy is an asian women, i'm happy to oblige because that will make me money. i never once betrayed my values when i was a dancer, i was just in a different mindset. in real life, if someone at a bar came up to me and said, i love asian women - well i wouldnt exactly throw a drink in his face but hes just not going to get anything real from me.
my boyfriend and i have the same problems as any relationships. for example we are in a ridiculous long distance relationship (after graduation he got a job in Cali and me in Jersey) and thats been a strain in our relationship. our race hasnt exactly been a problem but i dont consider us extraordinary or more romantic just because we are in an interracial relationship (although, greentea, we are cute!)
i think everyone has their preferences. while it is peculiar to prefer someone by race only, i dont see it any different from saying that im attracted to tall guys. i think most of the offense that we take as asian women in the "asian fetish" is the fact that asian women are largely portrayed in a negative light in pornos and such - the stereotypically subservient meek little girls who can't speak english but will please a man at the drop of a hat. but we know better (at least i hope) than to think that all asian women are like that, and maybe next time give a guy the benefit of the doubt when he says he is into asian women. maybe he likes hte fact that we are mostly HOT haha jk but seriously, i have to say that being asian definitely helped me when i was a dancer and im not about to lecture the guys who picked me just because i was asian and showered me with hundreds on the underlying racism of it all.
sassfire
11-10-2006, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sassfire
I do get offended when "being asian" takes the top of the list (and you eventually find out that it's often for all the wrong reasons) and becomes fetishistic. I'm not a shoe, car or an inanimate object- I'm a fucking human individual. If you can't understand that racial fetishism is inherently racist, you're a dumbass
No your not a inanimate object,but your a stripper,and strippers are there to look pretty and make money.Your being judged on how you look,whether that means your judged on your body,race,smile etc.It goes with the terrority of being a stripper,sorry but lets face reality here.So be thankful there are guys out there that like Asian girls,otherwise you wouldnt be able to pay your rent :)
and quite frankly I couldnt care less if you dont "approve" of my preference,I like what I like.
I didn't say that, sexkitten said it. Wish I did though, she is a smart cookie.
So be thankful there are guys out there that like Asian girls,otherwise you wouldnt be able to pay your rent
WTF?!?! Gee I'm sure that the asian dancers are grateful that men like you are doing them a favor. According to you, a custy won't buy dances from them if they are not asian. Luckily there are some men who don't give a damn if she is asian, white, black, and latino. Don't fool yourself, you are not doing asian dancers a favor by solely buying dances from them. They will make money regardless. Who the hell made you the asian savior.
To the asian dancers be sure to thank men like greentea. Without them, you ladies will be homeless;) .
kittenkat
11-10-2006, 08:23 PM
I guess you could say I have a fetish for Indian guys, but being Indian doesn't make a guy attractive nor do I limit myself to finding Indian men attractive. I guess in my case at least, it's just cool when a hot guy happens to be Indian.
You don't limit yourself to Indians guys, and you also haven't said things like "interracial relationships are more romantic than same-race relationships. Oooh, like Romeo and Juliet.
kittenkat
11-10-2006, 08:27 PM
Again, it's one thing to respond to a clientele on a business front, scream queen. My blonde friend gets blonde fetishists all the time as a stripper. What she doesn't do is date blonde fetishits. Would a guy that says "I only date asian women because I like the way they look?" Or would that come off creepy to you? You may dance for a guy that says that, but dancers dance for guys they don't care about. It's how you make money. Just because you dance for them, doesn't mean you have to like or agree with their attitude. I'm not down on women that dance for any guy- that's how you make money. As a bartender, I didn't throw drinks in the guys faces. My job is to serve drinks. That's not to say that I can't speak out against shitty attitudes I see with some men. I'm not down on women that date interracially. I've done so on different occasions. I'm not down on the women, I'm down on men that have racist fetishisms - and not all men that date out of their race are fetishists or racists. However, men like greentea that have this savior and romaticizing complex about saving us poor asian women and being a knight in shining armor from mean asian parents, can go screw themselves on a splinter-filled pole.
If you read carefully, I'm not again interracial relationships or same-race relationships. I'm against people that assume one is better than the other- and you don't, unlike this greenpee here.
kdogg247
11-10-2006, 08:52 PM
So someone who likes Asian women is racist against every other race?
sassfire
11-10-2006, 08:56 PM
No they are doing them a favor, because they wouldn't make any money with them.
kdogg247
11-10-2006, 08:59 PM
No they are doing them a favor, because they wouldn't make any money with them.
That may be true, but how is it racist to prefer Asian women over other women?