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Bridgette
10-31-2006, 12:54 AM
^^Yeah. It'll take a several more years, and thankfully, more than I'll be able to dance (at least I think and hope). But it's definitely headed for the shitter, and you can thank your asshole clubowners for that. Only bright side is, it will most likely cycle back up again - there will be someone with the bright idea to open a *nice* club, with *nice* girls again, instead of the shitholes that will abound, and there ya go.

calliope7
10-31-2006, 01:45 AM
It seems as house fees have increasingly become a staple of a club's income, the number of girls has gone up and the ultimate quality of entertainment has gone down. I've worked at clubs who will literally let anyone who walk through the door work, without considering whether her looks/personality will drive away business.

The Michigan economy is horrible right now (we're second in unemployment in the nation) but the Detroit area has more strip clubs per capita than any other metropolitan area. Most Michigan clubs have flat fees. Mine has actually gone down and I've heard the same about some other clubs in the area. And the basis for this is that a lot of girls haven't been coming into work as regularly, leaving clubs short staffed. They needed incentive to get girls to come in and work, hence the reduced house fee.

None of the girls purposefully boycotted to reduce fees. But I guess this proves that lack of girls will bring down house fees for clubs to keep them coming in. From what I've heard, though, none of the clubs most notorious for extras have reducedntheir fees.

Andygirl
10-31-2006, 05:59 AM
Ours is reasonable, $25 house fee and 5% to bar and 10% to dj. We tip the house mom at least $5 when she is there, and I always give the door guy a few bucks when he walks me to my car. I think it's a fair system, and the cheapest one in this town.

nychaos99
10-31-2006, 09:06 AM
Shakti,
You are so right. It's NOT like a salon at all. I forgot about the entrance fee and OBSCENE drink prices (a beer here is $11-$12, liquor is $17) - and yes, those prices are PER DRINK.
It's so crazy. Our club makes a disgusting amount of money per year (a number I know, but can't repeat)-
And all they do is figure out more and MORE ways to take our money. Even the floor hosts have to pay the club. If I gave out THAT number I'd surely be in deep shit if someone found out, but I can tell you they pay WAY WAY WAY more than the entertainers.
I just find it discouraging and unfair, and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I swear on my life, if I could open up my own club I'd do it in a heartbeat. I hate working for men, in this industry at least. They have no idea what entertainers have to deal with. And, it's like we're constantly fighting to keep our money.
Bull shit.

shakti
10-31-2006, 01:20 PM
This is the simple truth.:-\

Most of you aren't old enough to remember or understand what I mean but I gotta say we are heading right back to the 70s. If the greed keeps up this will return to being a vile, lowlife job only the most desperate junkie girls would do. There just won't be enough money in it. There won't be entertainers left, just prostitutes.

This is something I've thought about too. When I started dancing it had such a dark and seedy reputation but the reality (at least in the clubs I worked at) was ridiculously innocent. I remember thinking "You've got to be kidding me, this is it?" as I pranced around from table to table with my pasties on. The reality is now on par with its reputation. I guess it just goes in cycles and we're on the higher contact for less money downward slope at this time.

I do think the changes have more to do with the clubowner's attitude than the economy. They could have held strong with club rules and expectations. I recall an old customer who used to take clients to the club telling me it was embarrasing to have a dancer grind on your dick in front of a colleague. There are many men who enjoy the sexy flirty fun aspect of strip clubs and no longer come in. Not all men want to put themselves at risk whether in their relationship or a club bust. Clubs decided to cater to the sleaze and when that didn't show to be more profitable they raised the house fees and hired anyone who walked through the door. It works because whether it's right or wrong "It's more money than you can make anywhere else". I hate that these lax rules put dancers at risk, legally, physically, and emotionally, and that most dancers are paying more in house fees than they do to live in their own homes. I could understand if house fees really were used to improve the dressing room or stage that you rent, but they're not, they're just taken. I don't understand treating your bread and butter that way.

Like Bridgette said in however many years when all the clubs are like Optimist described someone might decide to open a nice club with higher standards that has beautiful and sexy entertainment and the upward cycle can begin again. I hope.

ExoticEngineer
10-31-2006, 02:18 PM
It seems as house fees have increasingly become a staple of a club's income, the number of girls has gone up and the ultimate quality of entertainment has gone down. I've worked at clubs who will literally let anyone who walk through the door work, without considering whether her looks/personality will drive away business.


This is so very true! When I first started at the club I am at now, it was known as The Club to work at....and girls knew to work there you had to be looking your best, have a great attitude and KNOW how to dance!

Now though, and they may be the sweetest girls in the world or they may be the biggest b*tch you've ever met, they are hiring anyone who comes to apply. ANYONE. I don't have a perfect body by far, but you can see that I work at it...not so true of the new recruits. And many of them have NEVER danced before, or what they do isn't stripping, it's WAY beyond. Every year I have been there I have watched it get worse and worse in that sense.

Then I ask around to some of the girls that work in other clubs....same sh*t there too!!!! It's scary I tell ya. /:O

Sophia_DeVega
10-31-2006, 02:59 PM
There are no fees at all at The Kit Kat Club in Sunnyvale, Cali. The house doesn't take any of your stage money or private dance money either. Everything you make, you take. 100% of it.

TigersMilk
10-31-2006, 03:24 PM
^^ How does the club make money then?

Emily
10-31-2006, 03:30 PM
probably from the overpriced drinks and cover. How do bars without strippers make money? :)

When I first started dancing, I worked in a club that didn't charge housefees or per dance fees (they did charge for champagne in the VIP)....but then after time things changed and they started charging more because they realized they could.

sassfire
10-31-2006, 03:40 PM
I always hated when the mgr raised the fees on a whim with no justification to why they were being raised. One day the vip fee would $200 (you get $75/ the house gets $125). The next week the fee would be $250(you still get $75/the house gets $175). The dancer gets the same amount but she has to work harder to sale a vip that cost more. The average customer isn't dumb. While the mgr is busy raising the rates to stuff his pockets the dressing room looks like a deathrow in a 3rd world country, the lapdance chairs are old and gross, and the vip rooms look like shit. Still the dancer has to work without basic improvements while the mgr makes excuses (matter of life or death) to why he needs the extra dough.

Bridgette
10-31-2006, 05:20 PM
^^ How does the club make money then?You see? You younger girls have simply been brainwashed to think that the clubs actually NEED our money to turn a profit. They don't!!! Strip clubs in general have more consistent business than other bars, charge more for their drinks/cover/services than other bars, yet they claim they NEED large portions of OUR money to make a profit. WAKE UP girls! They don't fucking need it!!! They are just greedy bastards!!! They are PIMPS.

Sophia_DeVega
10-31-2006, 05:55 PM
They are PIMPS.

In a way, yes. They are the elite business men of the adult industry.

Bridgette
10-31-2006, 06:14 PM
There's nothing elite about them. They are the SCUM of the business community.

terra
11-12-2006, 08:50 PM
The rising house-fees are making me think of getting another job soon. We're paying more, and there's less money around.