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ajbaer
01-22-2007, 05:51 AM
I went to the site, it seems very interesting. A couple girls have mentioned it. Once I get back home and get my pole up I will have to call. I'm in Maryland so I'll have to do the online course. I know NOTHING at this point and would like to know as much as possible so that when I begin dancing I don't feel like a "floppy fish" on stage.
Thanks alena!

alenadowns
01-23-2007, 10:38 AM
Believe it or not....currently 80% of my students are online students!!! My online classes are via Video Conferencing, therefore live!

My student literally come from all around the world....every corner!! lol.

You do know something...you know that you want to learn how to pole dance! :)

Not all my students are dancers, but for those who are....I specialize my classes to include stage presence and floor moves, not just pole!

Let me know when you are ready!!! ;)

ajbaer
01-24-2007, 06:40 AM
Alena,
I wanted to Private message you, but I haven't been on stripperweb long enough and I'm not sure how to just from a post.
I would like to know what the price is (you can PM me back on that) and what I need to have other than a pole, a webcam and attitude :p
I had looked into lessons in MI when I lived there, and I remember them recommending a certain type of clothing. What would you recommend to wear?
Also, should I sign up now for an upcoming class since my pole should be here soon, or should I wait and get used to it first? You're the pro so I'll do anything you say lol

ahmeerah
01-25-2007, 07:52 PM
I just got my super pole from platinum stages yesterday. My cielings are high though so I'm going to have to get help completing the set up.

I'm pissed I didn't spend the extra $40 for brass instead of stainless steel.

I stopped dancing a few years ago and was tempted to get back in it JUST for the darn pole.

blaze_n_hot
01-28-2007, 08:08 PM
Ajbaer, check out Xpose Fitness (www.xposefitness.com). They teach pole dancing, and they're in Maryland and Virginia. I've been taking classes with them for about a month, and I highly recommend them!

aerialgoddess
01-29-2007, 03:48 AM
Guys I am a newbie in this site and inexperience in this field. I am a dancer (ballet etc..) and an aerialist. I am JUST starting to learn pole and because of my very busy schedule, I need to self teach myself. MY upper and lower body is strong and I know I would be able to pick up the art hopefully sooner than later since I want to use these in the shows I do.

I want to buy a pole but really don't know what kind..... where (I am from Southern California) and somewhat I know that when I graduate from higher levels, I don't have to buy another pole to adjust to my level. I've read so much but really can;t keep track of what brand.... what specs.... etc. to look into. I don't sweat a lot, but from my experience in Aerials, I need to put rosin and alcohol to get good grip... so brass, chrome... stainless steel.. which one? rotating or not???? etc... I plan to stick this in my 10 feet living room with carpet. PLEASE HELP ME. I would like to order one.... also would like to see the possibility of getting this at Home Depot without too much in the set up ( I dont have a man to help me with this one and I am tiny - 4'11 80 lbs.) Need to also take into consideration the cost of the pole :) if you know what I mean... I am a starving artist!

alenadowns
01-30-2007, 09:26 AM
If anyone requires help setting up the PS SuperPole...let me know! I hve done 15 online setups here already!!

Ajbaer...how did it turn out??

Aerialgoddess... I do stunting...as well as choreographed pole. I can use any type of pole.

10' ceiling??? You are better off with a PS Multipiece Superpole. Easy to go up and down, travel with...etc. I am 5'3", and hve no problem setting them up!

You will not need to upgrade your pole! www.platinumstages.com check them out! Sassysummer sells them (so do I, but she is closer!)

evolqt
01-30-2007, 01:42 PM
I am new to this site, but love it love it love it so much already. I have been scouring the web for the past couple of weeks looking and hunting for reviews on poles for my house.

So after sifting through all of your messages....I come to the conclusion that it's either the xpole or the lil'mynx to chose from. I'm pretty sure my ceilings are 8ft standard, but I'll check that again tonight.

I'm not a professional dancer, I actually take Sheila Kelley's sfactor class. I have reached level 2, and week after week, I love it even more! All I want to do when I get home is swing on a pole, so I need to get one asap!

If any of you could give me some advice for a pole you think would be appropriate for me...

1. I want a removable pole that I can eventually do anything on...hang upside down and do crazy things.

2. I weigh about 110 lbs

3. I have been trained on the stainless steel which I do agree is quite slippery, but I think...better to practice on that and use rubbing alcohol.


Thanks for any advice you girls can give me!

Cheers!

Empyrean
01-31-2007, 08:31 AM
Hello Evolpt!

I highly recommend the Xpole. At your size you can do very close to any move on the LilMynx, but the Xpole is stronger and more secure.

LM works on a spring loaded action - like a shower curtain rod. This means you unwind it so that it is longer than the ceiling height, then, placing it against the ceiling device, you squeeze it into place. The bottom is then susceptible to sliding.

I am about 145 pounds and could not do all of my moves on this pole as the base would slide out.

X-pole is rated to sustain over 300 pounds of lateral pressure - no pole is that strong. There are so many great features to the X-pole that I cannot list it all here but you can read about it on my website.

Unfortunately, I've had a one-piece PS pole snap and break on me after using it for 3 days with the platform stage. One of my students had a multi-piece PS pole break at the threaded section after 6 months of use (she is around 100 pounds)

Also X-pole has great news! They are now stocked in the US and will begin shipping next week! So the cost of shipping has come way down from the original prices when shipped from the UK. Xpole starts at $259 for the Chrome and $299 for Titanium.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me by pm, phone or email.

ahmeerah
01-31-2007, 08:45 AM
I'm 4'11 and 110lb. I've been using my PlatinumStages for the past few days and love it! My guy friend played on I with me after helping me install it too. It can take lots of abuse is all I can say. I'm pretty aggressive.

I have the removable spinner. LOVE it! I can't wait to get my strength back up for more interesting pole work.

blaze_n_hot
02-02-2007, 11:57 AM
I was wondering about the safety of removable poles. I have a brass one that has slipped twice already! I've only had it a week, and I'm thinking of selling it. I weigh 145 lbs, but the vendor said that it was safe for up to 200 lbs! The first time that it slipped was my fault, because I hadn't tightened it fully. But the second time (last night), I had just tightened it about 3 hrs before! I'm kinda pissed because it broke my bookcase when it fell, and I'm bruised up.

So... what are the safest poles? I'm afraid that a permanant pole will pull the cieling down if it slips.

alenadowns
02-03-2007, 10:41 AM
does it have a lock nut??? you need to make sure that one is tight too, not just the raise bolt!

I have NEVER had a pole fall down...EVER!! I am not sure what you are using.

blaze_n_hot
02-03-2007, 03:36 PM
It does have a lock nut. I had been concentrating on making sure the raise bolt was tight, and I haven't really paid as much attention to the lock nut. I know that it was screwed down, but it may not have been screwed tight enough. Maybe that explains why it fell.

I'm afraid to put it back up, because I may not as lucky if it falls again. I only got a few bruises and a broken bookcase, what if next time it falls on my television or cat!? I wonder if I'm just too heavy to use a removable pole? :( Empyrean mentioned weighing 145 lbs (the same as me), and she said that she's had friction poles slide out from under her also.

alenadowns
02-03-2007, 05:29 PM
One of my students is 165lbs...so I am not sure that is the issue!

I hae MANY students who weigh over 150, so I highly doubt that weight is the issue. If you are over 170lbs, then I would be concerned!

Is your pole a PS?? One of my students had a problem installing her one piece removable, but it was strictly due to her not tightening the lock nut. Without that nut tightened, it does not matter how tight the raise bolt is...it will come loose and fall!

Poles must be retightened every use...sometimes during usage if you are on longer than a hour!

ALSO...MAKE SURE YOU ARE LEVEL ON ALL 4 SIDES.....if you are out, you increase the chance of your pole falling.

Empyrean
02-04-2007, 09:27 AM
It does have a lock nut. I had been concentrating on making sure the raise bolt was tight, and I haven't really paid as much attention to the lock nut. I know that it was screwed down, but it may not have been screwed tight enough. Maybe that explains why it fell.

I'm afraid to put it back up, because I may not as lucky if it falls again. I only got a few bruises and a broken bookcase, what if next time it falls on my television or cat!? I wonder if I'm just too heavy to use a removable pole? :( Empyrean mentioned weighing 145 lbs (the same as me), and she said that she's had friction poles slide out from under her also.

Hi Blaze...

I wanted to refer directly to whatever post I mentioned falling so that I knew for certain what you were referring to but I couldn't find that on this forum. So I'll try to explain my experiences with poles sliding out while using them.

My first pole to do that was the PS pole when I first started using it. It slipped away from the ceiling and fell over when I was inverted. I found myself on the floor with a broken ceiling plate - the center piece and ball bearings had fallen out but I didn't know if it had broken to cause my fall or I had fallen because it broke. After I affirmed I was only bruised I called PS and unfortunately was given the run around as the guy there was only worried about being defensive and insisted their poles "dont' fall" so I had to do "something" wrong.

A couple of weeks later, I'm using my new Poledanzer pole and doing a front hook the same thing happens - this time the pole went right through my wall!

However, when I called PD, after they asked FIRST if I was ok, Robert went over how to install the pole and use it safely.

First, yes, you have to re-tighten it regularly or the ceilings and floors can shift or settle causing the pole to loosen. Also that locking nut that Alena referred to is very important in keeping your pole stable so that it doesn't unwind itself while you are spinning on it. Making certain your pole is level is imperative as well.

Also, you have to make certain that you are tightening that pole almost as tight as you can possibly crank it! When I put mine up, I usually hear the ceiling joists creak! If it's under the stud and you don't have a previously damaged or weakened ceiling, it will not go through the ceiling.

I test my pole regularly as well...grabbing it at mid point and then up high, while simulataneously jumping up and pulling away from the pole to make sure it is wedged in nice and tight.

I've recently dropped but have used my poles at 165#. I have trusted my Xpole and Poledanzer poles for students over 200#. Incidently, X-pole is now rated for over 300 pounds of lateral pressure!!!

The pole should not fall if correctly installed on a secure ceiling.

Plat. Stages is probably secure, but I have concerns about quality control after having one break in half while using it.

LilMynx is a decent pole, however it will not stay in place well for people over 150# in my opinion. They are rated for more weight, but the reality is, if that person swings hard, is clumsy while learning a new move, or does an intense spin that applies a lot of lateral force, that pole is going to slip across the floor - even more likely if installed on a smooth/tiled/wood floor.

If you've ever seen Katie Coates (from the UK) "electric leg switch" move - she could not do it on the LM pole when we were in Vegas last month and got to try the LM poles. Any pole that relies on a spring mounted pressure to hold it in place will not be as strong as those that extend and tighten with a threaded adjuster rod and wrench.

The good thing about the LM semi permanent pole is that it is secured at the ceiling portion by a mounted bracket so the worst that happens is it slide out across the floor at the base and you fall but that is a lot different than having a pole fall away from the ceiling and crashing over while you are on it.

One other consideration - X-pole is designed with a "dome" shaped ceiling plate as well as a "3 degree angle lock" design to the base - I can 't explain this feature well but they work together to help keep the pole from tipping completely over if it does slide away from the ceiling. It will slip (if not installed correct or has come loose) but is likely to catch on the edge of that ceiling dome, so it will be leaning but usually will not fall over.

Incidently...in addition to female students over 200 safely using my X-pole. my husband who is around 230# tests it as I described above and can spin on it and my son who is around #180 can give it quite a work out with spins, flips and inverts.

blaze_n_hot
02-04-2007, 09:47 AM
Thanks for the help y'all! I had been playing on it for a few hours without retightening it, so I think that's what caused the fall. My pole is 9.5 feet tall, and retightening it every hour is going to be a hassle. I'm gonna have to break out the ladder every time!

I got my pole from Xpose fitness ( www.xposefitness.com ), and other than the falling thing (which was most likely my fault), I love it. It's removable and made of brass, and it only cost $300!

Anney Dancer 2
02-08-2007, 10:13 AM
I have a X-pole and its a friction mount spinning/static powder coated model.
I can do inverts etc on it and its very sturdy.
I would add tho that i am not happy with the finish. I have almost stopped using it because i feel its slippy. I have tried cleaning it with clear alcohol, watered washing up liquid, and Cilit Bang but its just not like the club poles.

I may sell mine and get a brass finish plain pole from somewhere instead!

Bubble
02-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Powder coated X-pole?
I've never heard of it. They only do Chrome and Titanium as far as I know.

Empyrean
02-09-2007, 11:52 AM
As far as I know they do not have powder coated X-poles for sale and never have.

Sophia_Starina
02-09-2007, 03:48 PM
I like the idea of having a brass pole but i dont think that X pole makes a brass model. What are the characteristics of Chrome & Titanium. Which has a better grip? Which is closest to brass?

Empyrean
02-10-2007, 06:00 AM
Hi Sophia!

The chrome pole is comparable to a stainless pole, just a bit grippier. The S-pole's titanium is a gold tone so that it looks like brass. It also grips just like bras as it absorbs the oils from your skin. There is an advantage as well because it doesn't tarnish so it does not require polishing like brass does.

Sophia_Starina
02-12-2007, 09:09 AM
Can anyone else describe their experiences with Titanium? It sounds pretty good to me me. So why does everyone go for brass?

Empyrean
02-13-2007, 05:12 AM
I hope you can get some more opinions on here with the titanium, but it's not been available that long and only X-pole uses it now so you may not hear from too many others. Part of the reason that others have bought brass.

phoenix9
02-14-2007, 11:18 AM
I have the super pole from platinum stages and absolutely LOVE it, it spins and locks and there is no drilling/mounting required, very little assembly.

vidadiva
02-14-2007, 11:50 AM
I have two poles: Lil Minx(LM) and Platinum Stage(PS) 1-piece super pole. I love both, but I won't recommend a PS pole for a beginner. It's more slippery than the LM, and the chances of injuries occurring are much higher, and a beginner may not know the best way to treat those injuries when they do happen. Even for a seasoned pole dancer a PS pole is a challenge, but like someone mentioned to me before, once you master a PS pole you can master any pole.

KaliDean
02-15-2007, 01:08 AM
I am a 5 foot 3, 110 pounder and I am contemplating getting a PS with a brass pole. I also want to get wheels on it. I am a VERY aggressive pole dancer and I love to go upside down and te like. Do the wheels lock and make it secure? I live in an apartment so a permanent pole is out of the question. There isn't a lot of space here so I would like a pole that I could "move into position" for those workouts.

Also what floor works best for PS or does it not matter?

KennedyWinters
02-15-2007, 02:36 AM
i got the lil mynx original and it rocks! it rocks to so much i broke my toe smacking against the wall before I moved it to another stud. ha ha ha...
my landlord is coming to looking at something in the next few days.

"whoops...thats uhmm..not permanent sir"

Zabrina
02-15-2007, 02:54 PM
I've just got a lil minx pole and am about to install it. Something seems weird, I'm not sure if this is normal or if they may have cut my pole too short. The length of the chrome, exterior pole is about a foot short from my ceiling. This seems a little much. I know the interior black pole comes out and adjusts to reach the top, but should there really be a whole FOOT of unusable pole space at the top? My ceiling is a tad short at just under 8 feet, is this normal?

I've looked but can't seem to find a pic of the top portion of anyone's pole.

Should I put this baby up or pack it and sent it pack for a longer pole?

sassysummer
02-16-2007, 10:52 AM
I am a 5 foot 3, 110 pounder and I am contemplating getting a PS with a brass pole. I also want to get wheels on it. I am a VERY aggressive pole dancer and I love to go upside down and te like. Do the wheels lock and make it secure? I live in an apartment so a permanent pole is out of the question. There isn't a lot of space here so I would like a pole that I could "move into position" for those workouts.

Also what floor works best for PS or does it not matter?

If you live in an apt, a stage may not fit...especially with the wheels. Most apt ceilings aren't over 8 ft, and with the wheels, you'll need at least 8 ft 3" or so.

You don't need a permanent one. Just get a PS brass super pole. You don't need to drill anything. I've never had one fall on me. I use one in my studio and it's great! At home (well in my studio also) I have the stainless super pole...Pantera uses the superpoles...I'll have to find our pics of her using our brass one at our grand opening...she was wowing the crowd! lol And she's probably one of the most aggressive "polers" in the world! lol

I love my superpoles!

PANTERASPOLE
02-16-2007, 01:34 PM
Hello Everyone,
Man this is a crazy long thread!

So my first choice is always permanent. Not only for the single reason you will never have to worry whether or not it is going to fall or if it can hold you.

Brass poles are always the best choice. Stainless and chrome tend to become slippery really quickly. Not to mention metal flakes in your hand do not always feel good.
Mounting your own pole is super easy. Look in a phone book under brass. Most places around the world will have some kind metal specialty company.
You can either get a solid or hollow. They are usually sold in 12' sections so make sure you know the length before you go. Most places will cut it for you.
If you get a hollow one, be sure to get a piece of dowel to put through the center for added security.
Home improvement stores will normally carry wall mounts, which are usually used for plumbing pipes through walls and such. Be sure you get the right size to fit the diameter of your pole.
Put the mounts on either end and screw it into the floor and ceilings into a stud and you are ready to rock.

I have been on almost every kind of pole in the world. Not to mention I have broken almost every pole I have tried. I should hire myself out as the ultimate pole tester! HAHAHAHA

The X-pole isn't a bad pole. The crhome is slippery and I brought mine down within the first week I had it. Ripping the rubber straight off the dome and stripping the all thread. It's mounting design is very similar to most portable poles out there. The only difference is the top portion which is a huge dome which limits things you can do near the ceiling. When performing, this sucks.
It is very difficult to get apart at times. So if you are super secret pole dancer it might not be the fast put away you're thinking.
The wrench it comes with rounds out and the breaker bars bust. Leaving you with using a screw driver which is the common tool used in other assemblies.
The titanium model is WAY better. I think it more sturdy and grippy then chrome. The gold color does tend to fade and the pole ends up looking two tone. Neat if you're into two tone.
I don't know what the situation is for the x-pole as far as distributors here in the states, but it can be shipped all over the world. I think it may be the most expensive portable pole on the market and with shipping it can be a killer.

I've been on Platinum Stages super pole, not only at the Bombshell's grand opening but I was also allowed to give one a test run at my house and I have yet to have a problem with it. I haven't been able to try the brass (hint hint Platform Stages HAHAHA), but as brass is the best thing on the planet I'm sure it's even better than it's chrom/stainless counter parts.
I've never tried to take it apart since it hasn't come down so I don't know the difficulty here.
I have also tried the stages. Which are quite nice and not difficult to assemble at all. The freestanding bit is a little uncomfortable at first, but it definately does the trick if you need to set up fast. It's also awesome for clubs with false ceilings or owners who are uncomfortable with putting anything against their ceilings.
It is a little heavy so it would be a good idea to have someone with you to help. that's what BFs and guys are for though ladies. MANUAL LABOR!! AHHAHAHAHAH
The club I'm running a promotion through even bought a PS super pole becuase of it's inexpensive cost and it has run through two of Seattle's finest pole dancers two weeks in a row without a glitch. I even had it on spinny this last Wednesday and gave it a good go and not even a budge. I think I reached maximum velocity!

I really like the Lil Mynx also. Mainly because it is a partially permanent pole. It's crhome doesn't get as slippery as the x-pole either. It's design leaves the ceiling open for whatever you want to do and it is removable. Leaving a plant hook where the stud is. Multi purpose, Americans love that! HAHAAHA

There are some poles that are complete sh*t so I'd suggest sticking with the bigger name operations. Safety is key and these companies didn't get big with poles that fall down and injure people.

So if you have anymore questions just hit me up on myspace!


Every one have a fantastic weekend!!!!!

PANTERA :O

sassysummer
02-16-2007, 05:09 PM
I haven't been able to try the brass (hint hint Platform Stages HAHAHA), but as brass is the best thing on the planet I'm sure it's even better than it's chrom/stainless counter parts.

PANTERA :O


silly, yes you did! the one at the front of the studio that you were on was a brass superpole..we just had the top hidden in the ceiling!

thanks btw for coming and doing mini lessons! lol everyone was super impressed..even my husband..who never gets impressed! lolol

StarrGrrrl
02-17-2007, 12:15 AM
Yep yep, our instructor pole is indeed a brass "Super Pole" baby!

I haven't read all of this thread, but I have to add my two cents.

Something that I have come to find about poles with a coating... such as chrome, or powder coated. It seems to me that they tend to give you grip for a few minutes, and then become a bit unpredictable as your hands moisten, even more than stainless. I recommend bare metal poles such as brass or stainless for sure.

I have 6 Platinum Stages "Super Poles" in the studio, and they are awesome! 5 stainless, and one brass. They are all cut to fit our ceiling, so they aren't the multi-piece. I definitely don't recommend using a brass pole in freestanding fashion unless it is reinforced with a stainless insert, like my outside freestander was. If you've not seen pics of the outside freestander, I will post one :)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/reddfoxxxfiregrrrl/5eb054f9.jpg

Empyrean
02-18-2007, 09:28 AM
Interesting...I now own 6 X-poles, having received my first one I believe last April it was. I've never noticed a loss of grip over time and can even compare that to the newer X-poles as I received my most recent purchase only a couple of months ago. I never felt that the old poles were any less grippy than the new ones.

Now, in my opinion, the stainless is so slippery in comparison that when I recently used stainless at Fawnia's studio I couldn't hold on like I usually did with my chrome pole, and had to use the powder coated poles she had.

As for chipping...out of all those poles and a lot of use - the only time my chrome poles have been chipped or splintered was when I use to be careless and let them bump together or hit other objects when I was setting them up...then the edges would chip and yes, the chrome would splinter off. I use my poles for parties so I am transporting, setting up and taking down my poles all the time.

Now that I realized what I've done, I am careful and don't toss them around and they have not flaked any of the chrome off since then.

Since the Xpole is rated to withstand over 300 pounds of lateral pressure it will not come down if it is installed correctly and your ceilings/floors are secure without shifting or previous weakness. Unless of course you weigh enough to put over 300 pounds of pressure on the pole when you use it.

I give my poles quite a workout too. I had my brass stage pole break - actually it shattered - after using it for only 3 days on the stage! The brass poles I've seen have a thinner wall than either the steel or the chrome poles. I wouldn't use a freestanding brass pole without a steel - reinforced lining as Stargrrrl mentions whether it's a stage pole or set up the way her's is in her picture above.

The titanium is great...as I've stated it is JUST as grippy, if not more so, than my brass poles. I've truthfully only had my titanium for about a month so I cannot address whether it fades.

Also, now that the X-pole is stocked in the US...the price of shipping has come down. Since the X-pole has always cost less than most other poles, with local distribution it's now cheaper or the same as the others. Shipping runs about $50 and the pole is $279 for chrome $315 for titanium.

StarrGrrrl
02-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I wasn't rating brands, I was giving my personal opinion on the different types of materials used in making the surface of the pole.

Brass = grippiest (because it is a porous surface), and also is the SOFTEST material... hence the breakage when used as freestanding. No matter what brand, a brass freestander would have broken on you, unless you weigh very little & are extremely gentle in your swinging... which none of us are. My pole in the photo is freestanding brass, however it is re-inforced (and I only weigh 109lbs) Brass is meant to be permi mounted.

I didn't come over here to knock brands, I've used the x-pole, and the x-pole titanium as well. Nice poles. I bought Platinum Stages poles because personally, I liked them enought to put 11 of them in my studio (only 6 are super poles but they all came from PS, Kim at PS is a goddess! They other dude is a jerk... yeah, we all know.).

I have both brass & stainless poles. 5 permi brass, 5 stainless super poles, and 1 brass super pole (One piece) I think it's good to have both, because your students will get stronger quicker if they learn on stainless as it takes much more effort to manipulate your weight... esp. if the pole is cold... Presto- workout!

I like both myself, but am definitely partial to brass for upper level monkey work. stainless allows my nicely callused hands to slide more freely with my spins... hey better yet, GIVE ME A POLE!!! ANY POLE! I'll use anything :)

I have to admit not liking poles that have a coating. Be it chrome or powder. I definitley prefer the bare metal poles. Powder coated, as I said earlier, is a bit unpredictable for me. Not to mention the nice scar I have on my leg from ripping my skin off of my shin on a powder coated. Yes, I use that much pressure.

Brass & stainless = StarrGrrrl LOVE!

X-pole, Super Pole, nameless bare metal pole ... what's the difference really.

T-10
02-19-2007, 04:45 PM
My old friction mounted pole doesn't fit my new ceiling height and since my husband was never very comfortable with having it against the ceiling I want to get one of the platinum poles with the little stage.

I have a couple of questions first before I decide for sure and I thought someone here could help so here goes:

does the stage require extra support weights inside? If so, what kind and how much weight is recommended to be safe for a 5'5" - 135 lbs woman to do basic inverts?

are the quick release bolts for just removing the pole or are there some to brake down the stage part quickly too?

is the spinning kit really worth and additional $100+ especially for someone who has never used a spinning pole before? It sure looks like fun but it bumps up the total price to nearly $700 which imo is pretty darn pricey for what is mostly an adult toy or piece of excersise equipment.

how much more slick should I expect a stainless pole to be verses my old powder coated one?

If anyone can answer some of all of these questions, especially the first one I would find it very helpful.

Thanks!

StarrGrrrl
02-19-2007, 06:07 PM
SassySummer would be the "go to" girl to answer your question. No doubt she will probably pop her head back in here soon :)

PANTERASPOLE
02-20-2007, 08:28 AM
silly, yes you did! the one at the front of the studio that you were on was a brass superpole..we just had the top hidden in the ceiling!

thanks btw for coming and doing mini lessons! lol everyone was super impressed..even my husband..who never gets impressed! lolol

HAHAHA - WELL YOU HAVE ELEVEN OF THEM!!!!!

I'M WITH YOU ON THE WHATEVER STARR. I'VE DEVELOPED A FONDNESS FOR TELEPHONE POLES AND LAMP POST MYSELF! I EVEN DANCED ON SOME WEIRD PVC POLE A FEW YEARS BACK.

THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE GET THE POSITIVE AND THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF ALL THE PRODUCTS ON THE MARKET. IT'S GOOD TO BE DIVERSE AND UNBIASED WHEN GIVING PEOPLE YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. THEY'LL BE SURE TO GET ALL THE INFO THEY NEED TO MAKE AN INFORMED AND INTELLGENT DECISION.

alenadowns
02-20-2007, 10:41 AM
T-10....
Inverts are not the concern for additional weight...the spins and momentum swings are.

I use 4 sandbags for demos on a portable stage. I am 5'4, 105lb....but like Pantera...I am nasty hard on them.

If I am not mistaken, the stage does disassemble rather easily. The ones I have and not manufactured by PS.

Spinning Kits.....not essential, but if you are a Junkie like me..ya got to have it...just for a challenge.

Expect ALOT of extra slip on the PS pole in comparison to a brass. Easy solution...Gillette Shaving Gel! One dab'll do ya..2 drops of water, apply to hands thighs and calves.

But remember...it is good for holds, lessen the amount for swings.


but it bumps up the total price to nearly $700 which imo is pretty darn pricey for what is mostly an adult toy or piece of excersise equipment.

You would pay in excess of $1000 for either the sex toy (swing) or fitness equipment (tread or ellyptical)!! So realistically $700 is not that expensive...although it seems to be high in comparison to what I charge for mine!!!

Also...Hello to Pantera...you are a lady I love to see perform...Incredible strength and control on the pole!!

T-10
02-20-2007, 01:27 PM
T-10....
Inverts are not the concern for additional weight...the spins and momentum swings are.

I use 4 sandbags for demos on a portable stage. I am 5'4, 105lb....but like Pantera...I am nasty hard on them.

If I am not mistaken, the stage does disassemble rather easily. The ones I have and not manufactured by PS.

Spinning Kits.....not essential, but if you are a Junkie like me..ya got to have it...just for a challenge.

Expect ALOT of extra slip on the PS pole in comparison to a brass. Easy solution...Gillette Shaving Gel! One dab'll do ya..2 drops of water, apply to hands thighs and calves.

But remember...it is good for holds, lessen the amount for swings.



Thanks so much for the advice and information. I'll see if I can get my husband to find me some sandbags. I figure if you need 4 at your weight I'll probably need 6 or 8. Does that sound about the right amount for my height/weight to you?

alenadowns
02-20-2007, 03:18 PM
Honestly...4 would work for anyone!! I am very aggressive on the pole at times, doing full body extension swings, so you can add a whole lot of weight due to the momentum.

If you find that you are still concerned with the stability...add more! :)

sassysummer
02-20-2007, 03:52 PM
t-10 to add to alena's post

i agree you won't need more than 4...135lbs is hardly heavy! lol

I used both of my ps stages at an expo last october and they worked beautifully! We had people of ALL sizes on them...we even has a few men on it that were at a minimum close to 200lbs and they couldn't budge the stage.

starrgrrrl and i have also been on my stage spinning TOGETHER at the same time..our combined weight is roughly 235lbs, and we only had 4 bags underneath.

You can get just regular play sand in 50-60lb bags at any home improvement store. I even have a few bags of small pebbles that are the same bag size as the sand because they were out of sand.


the quick release bolts are supposed to make it easier to take the stage apart and put back together, however, i found that the regular bolts are just as easy, if not easier to put on/take off...HOWEVER, the if you are leave it up for a while, or are going to be doing heavy spinning, then go with the quick release, because unlike bolts, you will not need to retighten them, so it keeps the 2 pieces of the stage together better. Once those babies are tight, you're not gonna loosen them by spinning!


edited to add...

yes, compared to brass, it's much more slippery. however if you're coming from powder coated, it won't take THAT much adjustment to switch to stainless because unlike brass, neither the pc or stainless "soak" up the oils in your hands, everything just sits on top...plus, if you can do it on a stainless...you can do it on ANY pole!

T-10
02-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Sassy,

Thanks for your reply and for making me feel not so much like a fatty, lol!


When I read that Alena is just a little shorter than me and only 105 lbs. I said to myself that it was seriously time to go on a major diet. :bullwhip:

I have been wanting to take off the 10 lbs I've gained since I quit stripping anyway. I saw some pics of her on her website and man is she ever tight, I'm totally jealous. Now though after reading your comments I realize it was over reacting. I think I'll just stick to trying to lose that 10 and not the 15 or 20 I was considering earlier today.

Both your and Alena's responces have been very helpful and I hope I can return the favor someday on some other subject matter.

T-10
02-22-2007, 10:46 AM
Here is a little information update that I thought others with a similar question as I had about the Platinum stage and additional support weight.

Platinum Stage wrote back to a email question I sent in regarding this issue and informed me that they include two sandbags with the order of one of their stage and pole sets.

I am planning placing an order sometime this weekend and in the spirit of this topic I will update further as things progress.

sassysummer
02-22-2007, 01:29 PM
you get the bags...but you have to fill them yourself. you still have to go to home depot and buy them. but they are less than $4 a bag, so it's no biggy. ask for 2 extra bags when you order though, those bags are great for keeping the sand inside because the bags the sand comes in are kinda weak and can't take a beating and will probably bust/rip open.

also, is you put in the code "pdxpoledivas" and choose one of their video's and you'll get it for free!

StarrGrrrl
02-22-2007, 10:56 PM
sassysummer's mood is "Yeehaw"

... awesome! ...

Empyrean
02-23-2007, 06:12 AM
Here's another tip...if you live in cold weather areas, at this time of year at the hardware store, ask for the bags of sand that they sell for the back of pick-up trucks to help weigh them down in the snow. These are made of the similar fabric but even heavier than the bags PS sends but are pre-filled with around 75 pounds of sand and stapled closed with heavy duty staples so they will never leak.

I use four of them plus the two bags from PS and that is just about right for holding the pole steady. I could probably get by with just the 4 large bags with how hard I work the pole but figured I'd use the two extras that came with the pole as long as I had them.

T-10
02-23-2007, 02:42 PM
I placed my order today. It takes up to 48 hours to process and I was told 5-10 days for shipping.

I ordered the most basic stage with pole model they have available. My total was just over $500, including shipping.

I will update on my experience after it arrives. I hope it is soon!

I have one more kind of dumb question to ask about Home Depot and the sandbags. Is there a special kind or do I just look or ask for plain old sandbags?

I have plenty of sand around here and was thinking of filling them myself. We have a staple gun too. do you all think that will work ok?

sassysummer
02-23-2007, 03:38 PM
no special sand needed. you can even use a bag of pebbles. it's just the weight you need.

if you have sand around there, then by all means fill it up! make sure it's dry though before you do! the bags you get have a tie at the top, if you staple it, you're likely to rip the bag, so i wouldn't do that.

but for ease, i'd just go to home depot. go in the garden department..that's where the sand is. if you need help, just tell them you need sand bags, whatever's cheapest, that weigh around 50lbs give or take

T-10
02-27-2007, 04:06 PM
Anyone know what to use and how to add a "skirt" to a stage/pole set like the one which can be seen in this video clip?

sassysummer
02-27-2007, 04:50 PM
just get some black fabric and hem it to 12" high x 16ft wide. put some elastic..at least 1 inch wide, in the hem at the top and you can just slip it on, then put the edge protectors over it. you can also use velcro to stick it on.