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T-10
02-28-2007, 11:14 AM
Gosh, you pole sellers are so creative and helpful. Thanks, you rock!!!

I don't sew so maybe I could use this old bedshirt I have laying around. I think when the stage gets put together I will cut it into 4 parts to fit each side and then try attaching it with velcro.

sassysummer
02-28-2007, 12:26 PM
yup, a bedskirt will work too. just cut it 12" from the the bottom, that way the hem doesn't drag on the floor. for velro, you need to get sticky back velcro squares and regular "sew on" velcro. the sticky back won't stick well to the fabric. so you use the sticky back velcro on the side of the stage and get a tube of sewing glue (you can get this at any fabric store..it's for those that can't sew! ) and glue on the sewon velcro to fabric.

the best way to do it, is to put the velcro on the fabric first, then attach the sticky back velcro to the velcro on the fabric with the protective back still on it, THEN peel off one backing at a time to attach to the stage. that way it's all even!

T-10
03-05-2007, 12:20 PM
My stage and pole arrived this morning. We haven't set it up yet but I just wanted to add to this thread that the shipping turn around was plenty quick, imo.

A note of caution though is that the box the stage arrives in is quite heavy. I do not recommend a woman without the help of another person try to deal with it.

I prefered to not have anything even touching our ceiling and so that is why I picked the stage with pole over a friction mount pole. Before when we were renting I did have a friction mount pole. Now that I have with experience with both I suggest that for people who do not have that preference a non stage set up would be much easier.

I will report more after my stage with pole is set up and been used a few times.

T-10
03-06-2007, 12:05 PM
Here is a final review from me about the Platinum Stage with built in pole.

My husband was able to get it set up in less than an hour. It seems quite secure for basic spins and inverts even with just the two sandbags included with the stage. I have two more bags on hand for when I get my full strength back and start doing more advanced tricks again.

I got the stainless steel pole and yes it is alot more slick than my old powder coated friction mount pole. Also since about 1 foot of the pole length is inside the stage certian combined move tricks are limited due to lack of pole height as compared to the typical 8 ft or taller pole. Thus this pole is perfectly fine for average polework but not will probably limit extreemly advanced moves.

All in all I am very pleased with my new pole and looking forward to many years of use and enjoyment.

Djoser
03-21-2007, 05:27 PM
Damn, I am running into problems with shipping--anything over 8 feet can't be sent UPS. I need 10 feet.

I may have to go for the X-Pole, if I keep having trouble. What is the X-pole made from? Is it stainless steel?

The one avenue I haven't tried yet is finding out what kind of poles we are putting in our club expansion, and simply getting another one at my expense. This might be the best way to go.

alenadowns
03-21-2007, 06:13 PM
Sassysummer sells the PS Superpole which is a multipiece and can fit up to a 12' ceiling with the extentions!

PS uses FedEx, which seems to have no problem shipping one piece poles!

Djoser
03-21-2007, 06:21 PM
Thanks for the tip--I will talk to her!

sassysummer
03-21-2007, 08:34 PM
i'm here! actually, the multi piece can go to 15' safely! (i've even brought mine to 20 ft for a photoshoot...but didnt' do any spins or anything) the one piece superpole is custom cut to the size you need .

ups SUCKS for shipping. they damage like every package i've ever had come to me. both of the pole companies i sell for won't use them because of that.

also, if you were thinking of ordering brass from one of the 'restaurant" supply companies, be careful. my partner got what they said was a "brass" pole...when really it was a brass coated pole. she said she can tell the difference between that pole and all of our brass ones.

Djoser
03-21-2007, 08:57 PM
I love the idea of the spring-mounted 'go anywhere' poles--but my concern is the way I do the tricks, especially one of them--I just don't see how it could be a strong enough mount.

Unless maybe I lash the damned thing to the beam, as well as having the spring mount, lol--that might do it.

Empyrean
03-22-2007, 05:49 AM
HI Djoser. The Xpole comes in either polished chrome or polished titanium.

The chrome is a bit stickier than polished stainless and the titanium grips just as well as brass but will not tarnish so you have the advantage of not needing to use brass cleaners on it regularly.

Also, Xpole is rated for over 300 pounds of lateral pressure. It's very strong and it will NOT budge when you do your advanced work. This pole will hold up to any advanced work you can do on it and will not budge if it is installed correctly.

They ship by Fedex and you're looking at around $50 to Key West. It includes the carrying case and tools needed in the price and every Xpole has the spinning feature built into it.

Hot2Trot
03-22-2007, 06:11 AM
Unless maybe I lash the damned thing to the beam, as well as having the spring mount, lol--that might do it.

Hey Djoser, looking for a way to secure your ^ "post" ^ (giggling) ?

http://www.thecakelady.ca/lepagesglue/other-krazyglue.jpg http://www.thecakelady.ca/lepagesglue/other-card-tenexine.jpg http://www.pcthiker.com/media/gear/pepsistoveimages/pepsig/materialstools/Krazy=f.jpg

Krazy Glue my friend, Krazy Glue; LoL.

Pic #2 reads: "Yes, fellow citizens, as long as there is a bottle of tenexine (glue) in the land, you will find me sticking to my post."

P.S. Before someone tells me that that is a bad idea, I was just kidding ::) .

:flirt:

sassysummer
03-22-2007, 08:06 AM
I love the idea of the spring-mounted 'go anywhere' poles--but my concern is the way I do the tricks, especially one of them--I just don't see how it could be a strong enough mount.

Unless maybe I lash the damned thing to the beam, as well as having the spring mount, lol--that might do it.


the only spring loaded ones on the market are the lil mynx and the "prancing pole" peekaboo pole.

all others are tension mounted with a large bolt that you turn for the pressure.
most of those are plenty strong to hold you.


you should read pantera's take on poles a page or two back. she is tougher on poles than anyone i've seen!

Djoser
03-22-2007, 08:12 AM
That second guy is doing quite an impressive trick, there. Hot2Trot, you made my day, that's funny.

Thanks, sassysummer and Empyrean. I just talked to the guy that supplied the poles to my club a few years ago. Since we are expanding I know we will need some more, and I will probably try to go in with the owners to see if we can all save a bit. I'm getting a separate estimate, and then will talk to the owners as well.

If that doesn't work out, I will probably get the X-Pole, it looks like what I would want.

leilanicandy
04-04-2007, 09:48 PM
So how do you find the spot where you need to put your pole

sassysummer
04-05-2007, 12:48 PM
So how do you find the spot where you need to put your pole

with a stud finder. you can get them at any home improvement store

Hot2Trot
04-06-2007, 02:34 PM
That second guy is doing quite an impressive trick, there. Hot2Trot, you made my day, that's funny.

LoL Djoser :D .

And you just made mine when I read this;

15 days after you originally posted it (My bad :P ) .

:flirt:

Raphaelle
04-29-2007, 02:13 AM
Hi Everybody, thanks for all the awesome info. I think I may end up going with the titanium x-pole, just because it's like brass but doesn't tarnish. Does anyone know if large apartment buildings (cookie-cutter ones, they're in every city) have joists in their ceilings? Or Do you think that are just concrete? I'm not sure. Also, my pole studio used coated steel poles in the studio and the coating is all worn off (Wish I had known this before I signed up for a whole year!). What's the best grip to use? Right now I'm just using hairspray but a couple of the girls are using the blue chalk. I think it's for violins or cellos or something? I would love to do a lot of the advanced tricks but the grip is so bad that I can't even stay upside-down on the pole without slipping the floor! On most of the poles I can't even do one armed spins, it's too dangerous!

alenadowns
04-29-2007, 10:25 AM
Most apartment building have joists or studs in the construction of the ceiling.

Get a stud finder (about 10 bucks at your local hardware store).

As for a grip aid....I have had incredible response from telling my girls to use Gillete Shaving Gel.....a pea size in your hand with a bit of water. Rub hands and there is still enough for the thighs and calves if you are doing advanced.

starfish
05-01-2007, 03:46 PM
where do i get a stripper pole?

Empyrean
05-02-2007, 05:41 AM
There are several companies out that sell poles...all with different features. I sell X-pole brand which is one of the fully removable poles that require no permanent fixtures to set it up and yet is safe and secure for people well over 200 pounds. You can PM me for my number if you'd like to order one.

Gretchen
05-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Why not to buy a cheap pole:

http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/21899/

sassysummer
05-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Why not to buy a cheap pole:

http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/21899/

yup, good ol' peekaboo pole

Sophia_Starina
05-21-2007, 12:40 PM
Ouch!

Aine
05-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Well, I've had my black stationary powder coated Lil Mynx for 9 months now. Overall I am satisfied with it. The powder coating has taken some getting used to in comparison to stainless steel or brass. I am going to be getting a second pole soon, going for the Lil Mynx stainless that rotates. I'm still looking at other brands too as possibilities but I'll probably go with the Lil Mynx again. I can say this much for Lil Mynx, I've had quite a few partys/get togethers with friends of mine who have never pole danced and they have all had their try with it. My one friend is 235 and I told him, I wouldnt if I were you, I dont know if it can handle your weight. Much to my surprise it handled him doing two extreme spins at high speeds in which he pretty much ran and jumped in to them and then him climbing up and sliding down inverted. So they hold a lot more than I ever thought it would.

nicolette33
06-24-2007, 04:38 PM
I would love to have a pole to practice on. I am about to start dancing but am shy about my abilities as a pole dancer.

unsexylexi
07-10-2007, 11:17 AM
i want a pole so bad ! but i rent a small room

Asurfael
07-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Me and my husband basically share a small room, lol. I have to move the armchairs (no room for a couch!) to have just enough room to spin on my pole, but I do love having it. Just got to make sure I don't break my ankle against a closet or something.

Minette
07-25-2007, 12:34 PM
I've made my goals that I needed to make before allowing myself to buy a pole! I have a few questions about different pole details - my thanks in advance to everyone with answers.

I want a pole that will help me build strength, thus slippery, but I still want to be able to use brass poles in clubs reasonably comfortably. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether stainless steel or chrome is better for this?

How thick is the Superpole multipiece? Is it 2 inches like most club poles?

Does the Superpole multipiece lock and unlock for spinning while assembled and in place?

Also, does it have any kind of tilting action like the X-pole that allows it to fit well on an uneven floor or ceiling?

sassysummer
07-25-2007, 05:51 PM
I've made my goals that I needed to make before allowing myself to buy a pole! I have a few questions about different pole details - my thanks in advance to everyone with answers.

I want a pole that will help me build strength, thus slippery, but I still want to be able to use brass poles in clubs reasonably comfortably. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether stainless steel or chrome is better for this?

How thick is the Superpole multipiece? Is it 2 inches like most club poles?

Does the Superpole multipiece lock and unlock for spinning while assembled and in place?

Also, does it have any kind of tilting action like the X-pole that allows it to fit well on an uneven floor or ceiling?

I find chrome too sticky, i always say, if you can do it on a stainless, you can do it on just about anything!

It's 2" in diameter

Yes it locks and unlocks.

no it doesn't have that "tilting" action, but honestly in all of the houses (which is a lot) that i have brought mine into, there has never been a floor so uneven to need that. honestly i think it's just a gimmick. cause if it really tilted that much to need it, wouldn't it be too much to get enough pressure to keep in place? it just seems like it would slide out, no matter how much pressure you had.

hth!

Bubble
07-27-2007, 09:59 AM
no it doesn't have that "tilting" action, but honestly in all of the houses (which is a lot) that i have brought mine into, there has never been a floor so uneven to need that. honestly i think it's just a gimmick. cause if it really tilted that much to need it, wouldn't it be too much to get enough pressure to keep in place? it just seems like it would slide out, no matter how much pressure you had.
I live in an old converted building. Most of the place is flat, except for RIGHT UNDERNEATH where my xpole is! there's about a 1/2cm difference in height just across the width of the base. the tilting base has been a godsend! It has never budged either!
But like you say, there is such a tiny chance of it ever needing it! I find it strange that it's more likely that your ceiling isn't straight, so you end up with the pole on a tilt to get the upper dome flat (so then you need the tilting base to correct it)

unsexylexi
07-27-2007, 05:22 PM
is brass standard at most club?

Empyrean
07-28-2007, 05:31 AM
The articulating base is no gimmick. After setting up on hundreds of ceilings, I can attest that it's been very beneficial.

Also part of the reason for that base design is so that if the pole is set up incorrectly, or not checked regularly for loosening so that it slips away from the ceiling due to a shift in the floor or ceiling joists (which happens in just hours in most homes) the pole will just slide over and catch on the edge of the dome, rather than come crashing down which is much worse.

Any stories you hear of the X-pole just crashing down are because the pole was installed with extreme carelessness. I've had the pole slip (on an old, weak ceiling) and even my husband who is over 200 pounds, did not crash it to the floor. I've seen Fawnia, Jenyne, Jamilla and Katie all use this pole without ever even making it slip!

We recently got to see a Chinese pole dancer use Xpole without any shift in the pole - this guy, who weighed around 180# flipped from side to side, climbing up the pole to the ceiling. If you're familiar with this move, you'd be very impressed with the stability of Xpole after seeing something like this!

Additionally as Bubble noted, if the ceiling is crooked the tilting base compensates at the other end. It also helps for stability on thickly carpeted surfaces.

I have put these poles up hundreds of times on various ceilings and some have been a nightmare so I've been extremely happy for ALL the special features - even if they aren't usually needed at least it attests to the genious and thought that went into designing this pole.

I use both 2 inch and the "50mm" poles regularly and notice NO difference that affects my pole dancing abilities. Yes, I notice the difference immediately, but it's not enough to affect my skills, even doing very advanced moves.

The chrome is stickier than stainless, but it's not SO sticky that it's difficult to use. It is very similar to the painted (powder-coated finish) of the Lil Mynx pole. Stainless will be more slippery thus building more strength but many great dancers use titanium or brass and that has an even stronger grip. It's a matter for you to decide. If you learn on chrome you will have no problem dancing on brass or titanium as they grip easier.

Empyrean
07-28-2007, 05:31 AM
is brass standard at most club?

It really depends on your region...around here, stainless is more common, but it's not that way everywhere.

Minette
07-28-2007, 04:40 PM
I find chrome too sticky, i always say, if you can do it on a stainless, you can do it on just about anything!


Do you find that since you're used to stainless steel - that dancing on brass poles takes a big adjustment because it's so much grippier, particularly for turns?

Thank you everybody for all the info - I'm all about getting as much info and as many opinions as possible.

sassysummer
07-28-2007, 06:56 PM
Do you find that since you're used to stainless steel - that dancing on brass poles takes a big adjustment because it's so much grippier, particularly for turns?

Thank you everybody for all the info - I'm all about getting as much info and as many opinions as possible.


no, i frequently switch from stainless to brass no problem. i have definitely

ly gotten stronger by using the stainless more often though!

Gypsy74
07-28-2007, 08:16 PM
I'm really paranoid that my pole is going to come crashing down on me one day and cause some major bodily damage. I know it's kind of an irrational fear.. but the pole is about 5 feet from where I sleep. I installed it with the help of my neighbor, we both knocked around on the ceiling for awhile until we agreed where the stud was, we spent a good hour getting it perfectly straight up and down and tightened it as far as it could go. I'm just scared that the place we put it WASNT a stud, and it's going to bust through the ceiling and fall down on me when i'm sleeping. Won't happen right?

justtobenaked
07-30-2007, 12:11 AM
Has anyone had the x-pole fall? It just seems like a winner to buy. There are sellers on ebay selling it...suggestions...early birthday gift...for myself...

sassysummer
07-30-2007, 08:41 AM
Has anyone had the x-pole fall? It just seems like a winner to buy. There are sellers on ebay selling it...suggestions...early birthday gift...for myself...

yes, pantera has. read her post in this thread # 185.


there will never be a fully removable pole that has never fell down. it's just the nature of it.

but if you keep it tightened like you're supposed to, it won't fall.

i have never any pole fall on me. i make sure it's so tight that you can't turn the bolt anymore. i also jerk on the top and bottom of the pole all the way around it to make double sure it's not slippy...then i re tighten again.

guess i'm anal about that, lol.

Empyrean
08-09-2007, 06:35 AM
I've recently heard from two different people that the dome (and one of them said also the base) of the PS removalble poles has been changed and is now made of plastic - is this true????

sassysummer
08-09-2007, 06:38 PM
I've recently heard from two different people that the dome (and one of them said also the base) of the PS removalble poles has been changed and is now made of plastic - is this true????

no it's not true.

maybe they're just thinking of the rubber that's on the bottom??? but that hasn't changed to my knowledge either

StarrGrrrl
08-10-2007, 06:32 AM
I've recently heard from two different people that the dome (and one of them said also the base) of the PS removalble poles has been changed and is now made of plastic - is this true????

That's actually kind of ridiculous. Obviously whoever said that didn't actually have one. Why would a sucessful company downgrade their most popular product? Since I order, sell, and install them all the time I can tell you that they are in fact... still metal. Nice, solid metal.

Empyrean
08-10-2007, 08:19 AM
No...it's actually kind of true! Iin fact, it's exactly true.

In fact, according to Kim at PS whom I just got off the phone with, they have in fact changed BOTH the base and top plate to a "type of plastic" claiming it's stronger than the original metal components.

She stated that the original components would get dents in them if dropped so they tested these for 4 months and they are "much stronger" than the metal. I'm certain they wouldn't say plastic was stronger if it really wasn't...

I guess you haven't seen the new ones?

The people I spoke to had actually purchased and received these poles and one had even already owned EIGHT PS poles and was not happy that they had been changed and she wasn't aware of the new product components until it arrived.

leelabliss
08-10-2007, 08:44 AM
They have changed to plastic. I have 11 poles in my studio, all PS unfortunately. The last pole I ordered was plastic ceiling plate and base plate. When I called to complain I was rudely told that PLASTIC is safer than SOLID STAINLESS STEEL. My metallurgist brother begs to differ, as well as my intuition. I will not be sending any of my 1,200 students to PS to buy poles. X-Pole will be getting all of my business, every last referral will be going to them. I expect to sell 300 poles next year to students. Not to mention I feel like the walls of the PS multi-piece poles has gotten thinner. I can now see the threads through the metal of the newer poles, unlike the poles I ordered in 2006. PS never told me they were changing the plates to plastic, or I would not have ordered from them (I am sure they are aware of that!)

After spending in the thousands last year on PS, my business is now going elsewhere.

By the way, I have never DENTED a metal ceiling or floor plate from PS, ever. They have been dropped from 14', the adjuster rod slammed into them etc...I can't say I would feel great about doing either with PLASTIC.

Their bottom line is telling customers that plastic is SAFER than solid stainless steel. Plain and simple. I would like to know they cost difference to PS in the PLASTIC components being poured into a mold in China or somewhere else... compared to getting the stainless steel machined to their specs.

Enough said...

All the best,

Leela

leelabliss
08-10-2007, 08:49 AM
That's actually kind of ridiculous. Obviously whoever said that didn't actually have one. Why would a sucessful company downgrade their most popular product? Since I order, sell, and install them all the time I can tell you that they are in fact... still metal. Nice, solid metal.

Perhaps they are giving you the old stock of metal components until they run out...and pawning the plastic off on the new customers.

Just a thought!

sassysummer
08-10-2007, 10:07 AM
Ok, everybody CALM DOWN!

when "plastic" was originally said, i knew that if it were what you think as "plastic" it has to be the same material that used on my other poles (fantasy dance poles).

I just talked to kim

Yes, they are changed (the reason it's not on the website yet, is they are completely redoing their website and it hasn't been updated).

It is NOT plastic. It IS stronger than the metal on the older plates. the older plates are NOT solid stainless steel, they are in injection molded metal compound, mostly aluminum. And YES they do dent up, so they are not lying, I am very rough on my poles and have put small dents/scratches in mine, it doesn't bother me though.

a little info on the material.

This stuff is virtually indestructible. it IS much stronger than the previous bases. I know this cause it's the same material as my other poles.

It is mainly used on semi trucks as a buffer between the cabin and the rest of the truck. to help keep the cabin safe.

it is not "plastic". it IS however a lighter material and has the feel of plastic.

I have banged up mine (on my other poles), I have sliced it with a razor, ps has ran over theirs with cars and dropped them. THEY DO NOT BREAK OR SCRATCH OR DENT!

It is NOT A DOWNGRADE!!!! It is actually an UPGRADE from the previous injection molded ones.

This material actually costs more than the using the other bases...I know because I've seen the raw costs.

they know they are going to get some backlash. it is new and it is something that many aren't used to.

they are sending me some base plates to play with. If i have to, i'll make a video showing how much abuse these can take!! like i said i'm HARD on my poles and bases, i drop them and smack them against stuff all the time.

I have every confidence in these plates...especially since I've had experience with this material for over 2 years.

if you want some more info on the material (i can't remember the exact name right now, but i have a call in to get it), i can get it for you.

i would NEVER use a product or endorse a product that I truly felt was unsafe.

leelabliss
08-10-2007, 10:24 AM
Of course you are going to defend a product that has much to do with your livlihood, understood.

When I handle the new plates they feel cheap. Sorry, feels like plastic, looks like plastic and weighs as much as plastic.

Any thoughts on the fact these poles compress so badly the seams start to flare? Even if a pole is overtightened a bit too much once in a while, it should not compress so badly that the seams become unusable (enough to cut flesh open) That didn't happen on my older PS poles, just the new ones, so that leads me to believe the walls are thinner, as well as the fact I can now see the THREADS on the outside. Not the case with X-pole.

My two cents, as I have 11 poles in the studio, all PS, and the quality has gone down the tubes.

Empyrean
08-10-2007, 10:40 AM
First...I am perfectly calm. No reason not to be...it's not my pole nor a product I endorse.

I'm certain you would never endorse a product you felt was unsafe...but it is rather a shame that someone so involved with the company was never informed of such a wonderful upgrade?

Kim refers to it as plastic...Leela has one and says it is plastic...and no one knows the real name of the material? Even Kim said she couldn't remember what it was called when I spoke to her. Everyone seems to keep forgetting what this material is.

leelabliss
08-10-2007, 10:59 AM
I will happily endorse a product that I feel is safe, the company treats me well, and with respect. Informing me of UPGRADES before they happen, or DOWNGRADES before they happen, material changes, improvements etc. That is the way to treat a good customer that buys a lot of product from you and sends you referrals. I am not sure sure companies know how important customer service is for the long haul of the financial well being of their business. I can't tell you how many vendors of mirrors, retail products, dance poles, flooring etc I have come across that suck at customer service...it's astounding. It's my number one priority in my business next to safety.

Needless to say this is why I endorse X-Pole. The people are awesome, the price is great, they treat you with respect and honesty. They have a great product too! I am not affiliated with X-pole.

I am plenty calm, thank you very much. Passion is often mistaken for lack of calmness...If you can't speak your mind, with passion, what's the point of speaking?

I am old enough to know that if it looks like plastic and feels like plastic and is called plastic by a sales rep, it's plastic. "Mystery" substance or not, it's plastic. Ask a metallurgist/engineer about safety of plastic vs metal in this application.

sassysummer
08-10-2007, 11:29 AM
i do agree that you should have been told before hand that it had changed. I also agree that I should have been told, but that's neither here nor there. I told them they need to get something on the website about that. But kim does not have control over the website, so she can only ask someone else to do it and hope that they do.

also, selling these has nothing to do with my livelihood...i really don't sell all that many poles. my main source of income comes from my classes.

i do not 'need' to sell poles at all. I do it because I want to. i don't have to do classes either, i fortunately have a husband that can support our family with his job...again, i do it because i want to.

please don't get mad about my "calm down" statement....it was not meant to be rude or condescending... i just know how quickly people get all riled up over things like this, i've seen it all before. and i don't want people getting all mad over something that hasn't been tested by the majority of the public.

as far as the plastic thing...I've known the product for years and still can't remember the name..it's a hard one to remember. Kim is finding out the exact name of it and I have a call in to the maker of fdp to tell me also.

i do know it can feel cheap when you're used to metal, but please please believe me when i tell you it is not. it is actually an expensive material.

just because it's lightweight, does not make it inferior. it not plastic tupperware type material. like i said this is the stuff they use on SEMI TRUCKS! do you think they would use an inferior material??? they use it because it can take the pressure, heat and stress like metal can't.

please, before you knock it down, give it a chance! beat the crap out of it, throw it across a street, down a building, etc...but this is a case of "don't knock it till you've tried it" thing...you know, kinda like pole dancing :P

as far as the compressing at the seams. i haven't had that problem, so i can't really comment on this. i have 3 brand new multipiece poles, and none of them do that. maybe you got a bad batch? i don't know.

have you called ps about this??

people need to understand, if you have a problem with a product, you MUST contact the company!! how else are supposed to improve a product unless they know there is something that could be wrong! please please if you ever have a problem, tell the manufacturer! that's the ONLY way for them to know.

how do recalls with everyday products happen...by people telling the company, otherwise how would they know that something was defective???

leelabliss
08-10-2007, 11:37 AM
No problem Summer, I see you points as well.

I just haven't been very happy with PS as of late, and perhaps I should have complained more or sent poles back. I need poles to teach classes...and paying for shipping all way back to CA is not cost effective. When I got the last order, it was plastic plates...I called and did not get good explanations other than it was "safer material" I pretty much threw in the towel. After ordering 11 poles and sending countless referrals there I should have been treated better.

Sending poles back ...It means no poles in the studio for weeks...and I have to stay in business. I will eventually replace the PS with one piece poles or x-pole, but I think one piece is the way to go for my application (13') When I buy my own building and can install 20 one piece I may go for brass and stainless mix, ...but the upkeep for brass is hell! I actually like stainless over anything else for dancing/learning. If you can dance on stainless you can dance on anything!

All the best,

Leela