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flickad
11-11-2006, 01:32 PM
Um, that is probably true for many of the imported women (a smaller %), but it's a very legit choice for most of the local regs. Why would any woman CHOOSE to be a prostitute? Well, same reason overseas as in NV - to make more money easier than they could another way. Just like dancing. This stereotype of women all being forced into hooking is like saying strippers are all being forced into stripping. Gimme a break. I'll bet half the girls there would laugh in your naive face if you asked if they were being held hostage - if not take insult to your assumption.

Anyhow, I'm no expert on the subject, but was simply making an economic observation on the pricing, not a judgement on the profession. And the simple facts are, prostitution is not competitively-priced here compared to the rest of the world. The rest of your rant has nothing to do with my point here.

Actually, sex slavery is common in many Asian countries (generally the poorer ones, though it's far from unheard of in Japan), and not just with trafficked women. If you're interested in the subject, I can point you to Louise Brown's excellent and well-researched book, 'Sex Slaves'. It is certainly far less common in the developed world, and you're correct in stating that many women do choose to be prostitutes, for a variety of reasons. However, it is important to be aware that part of what keeps the cost of commercial sex low (widespread poverty aside) in countries such as Thailand, India and the Philippines is sex slavery. A little research on the matter should convince you that it would be naive to think otherwise.

You're also right in admitting your own lack of expertise.

flickad
11-11-2006, 01:46 PM
OMG. Sorry for the extra post, folks. I just can't believe what a fucking asshole TROLL this obviously is.

Dooooood. Have you not ever read/heard how sex burns more calories than any other form of "exercise"? Fucking moron. Sex is some of the most physically demanding work you can do.

Now PLEASE, yall with the buttons - can ya just ban this fucker? It's not like he contributes anything to this site ::)

I think if he was being pounded 10-20 times a day (by the kind of men who can't get free sex- bad breath, poor hygeine, hefty, hirsute, borderline sociopath), he'd change his mind about the nature of sex work.

flickad
11-11-2006, 01:51 PM
that's male privelege. They can have sex randomly and not get attached, but women then fall in love with bozos who only want to sleep around, or guys who pretend to care. but if most women get emotionally attached through sexual experiences that is their own fault. nature/nurture. who is in the driver's seat? and it's not guys' faults if they understand that sex can just be fun and baggage-free.



Oh woe is me. Do you know you could be insulting prostitutes, who consider themselves sexually liberated and enjoy the idea of having sex with a lot of guys? Many would do it for FREE. They're just like guys.

Yeah they should make as much money as possible, and they have their work cut out for them what with 24-hour shifts and fees, but they're not victims.

And before you think it sucks to make 50 bucks a pop, it's probably easier to be a prostitute in Europe than in the US. In the US, what's the point of a guy going to a SC or a brothel when he can just get off on internet porn or flicks for free? Because he wants "an experience". In Europe all you do is screw them for 15 minutes and move on, you don't have to be an actress. You don't even have to be likeable.


Actually, they do it for the money, same as us. I've talked to and known alot of hookers, and I've met maybe one who actually enjoyed it.

It's also not (I reiterate) 50 bucks a pop in Amsterdam. A Euro is not the same thing as an American dollar, it is in fact a much stronger currency. The troll needs to take conversion rates into account. It is 50 EUROS (ie roughly $100) for 15 MINUTES, which adds up to $400 an hour- not much different from US prices.

Katrine
11-11-2006, 03:04 PM
Actually, they do it for the money, same as us. I've talked to and known alot of hookers, and I've met maybe one who actually enjoyed it.

It's also not (I reiterate) 50 bucks a pop in Amsterdam. A Euro is not the same thing as an American dollar, it is in fact a much stronger currency. The troll needs to take conversion rates into account. It is 50 EUROS (ie roughly $100) for 15 MINUTES, which adds up to $400 an hour- not much different from US prices.

In lived and worked in A'dam, knew a couple of working girls, and of course lots of locals who had walked into a window at some point or another.

50 euros is about 65 USD, so it would be closer to $258 an hour. This is about what average looking Texas girls charge for OUTCALL. Which means the girl has to drive somewhere and meet the client. She must pay for gas, and probably protective transport (although I know plenty of girls who do not.)

Also, girls in the windows charge more for time AND for different positions too. There are lots of ways to make money working the windows. Plus, only a select group of the window girls are very attractive. Some are downright nasty looking. Plus, there are agencies and brothels in Holland and Europe as well.

I guess if I guy like Forcefit can walk into a window, and blow his load in 15 seconds like I imagine, the girl has really only had to work a couple of seconds for that 50 euro. Not a bad deal ;)

stripperMBA
11-11-2006, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=Katrine)I guess if I guy like Forcefit can walk into a window, and blow his load in 15 seconds like I imagine, the girl has really only had to work a couple of seconds for that 50 euro. Not a bad deal ;)[/QUOTE]
Ohhhh Snap!!!! :sweep: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Tart
11-11-2006, 03:16 PM
who says you are actually fucking for your money? There are ways around EVERYTHING. im not going to get into some entire explanation because it seriously would take me all fucking day.

But yes its set up as a lock down place. I didn't mind it. everything I needed was there. and i rather they did search rooms..people were stealing your shit, drugs weren't there. It was kept clean. they are liable for those that do that shit in there.

and listening means no one is raping your ass, or beating you up and girls aren't doing illegal shit for money like unprotected sex or anal. ( they only listen to the agreements )

no money so people dont steal!

and weirdos..well all i can say to that is no one holds a gun to your head. if you dont want to do it you dont do it.

Paris
11-11-2006, 03:23 PM
So people here are going to seriously argue that if a good or service costs $60US in one location and $1000US in another location that there isn't a price disparity? And that this price disparity isn't caused by an artificially created lack of supply(law)?

I'm not going to argue that the price should be $60 or $1000, but i certainly see a price difference for a relatively simillar service. The market dictates the price. In Amsterdam its more of an open market. In the US it is overpriced(just like drugs) due to its blackmarket status lowering supply(of legal prostitution) and increasing the risks/costs of illegal prostitution.

What I don't get is why anyone is price shopping a sex provider? If that is your only concern when shopping for a provider, I'm sure there are plenty of places in the US where you can find cheap whores. Walk down the Vegas strip and talk to one of the illegals handing out the little cards advertizing $29.99 girls to your room.::)

Do you also price shop other service providers? I don't care what my hair stylist charges, I'll pay her [almost] anything she asks because I am so happy with the work she does. Ditto with my personal trainer and massage therapist. I could visit Master Cuts or some other discount chain to get my hair done for $15, but I pick the girl I see because she does a great job EVERY TIME. She charges me $60 for a cut and style before tip, and I feel it is totally worth it.

Maybe I'm missing the point? Isn't hiring a sex provider a luxury? Seems silly to price shop on something as minor as $100 difference between providers. I guess if you aren't too picky, and masturbation isn't an option for you, any old hole would do the trick.

Katrine
11-11-2006, 04:23 PM
How about a ziploc bag and a tube of vaseline? Slippery hole for <$2, with multiple uses!

smartcookie
11-11-2006, 04:46 PM
Sex is priced like any other service: by the law of supply and demand. Since prostitution is illegal here in the U.S., and sexual mores generally more conservative than in Europe or Australia, there's a risk premium, therefore it's more expensive than it is elsewhere.

Any man who complains about the price of sex in this country is putting his money where his mouth is and becoming active in the decriminalization movement, I assume. That would be the logical thing to do, wouldn't it?

sander8son
11-11-2006, 07:07 PM
Thanks Kat, just the thought of this actually happening will keep me hard for about three weeks....}:D

Ya' see Sandy, you can't expect the mountain to come to you...

tell that to people who's houses have been wiped out by mudslides? ;-) and i told you two to do that about a month ago :-P so stop acting so suprised that shes up for it. ::)

sander8son
11-11-2006, 07:12 PM
What I don't get is why anyone is price shopping a sex provider? If that is your only concern when shopping for a provider, I'm sure there are plenty of places in the US where you can find cheap whores. Walk down the Vegas strip and talk to one of the illegals handing out the little cards advertizing $29.99 girls to your room.::)

Do you also price shop other service providers? I don't care what my hair stylist charges, I'll pay her [almost] anything she asks because I am so happy with the work she does. Ditto with my personal trainer and massage therapist. I could visit Master Cuts or some other discount chain to get my hair done for $15, but I pick the girl I see because she does a great job EVERY TIME. She charges me $60 for a cut and style before tip, and I feel it is totally worth it.

Maybe I'm missing the point? Isn't hiring a sex provider a luxury? Seems silly to price shop on something as minor as $100 difference between providers. I guess if you aren't too picky, and masturbation isn't an option for you, any old hole would do the trick.

I've never got a "service provider" before. So i dont price shop or any other kind of shop for them. I cut my own hair, because i paid for a shitty haircut that i had to fix and said, "i can do a shitty job for free."

And are you saying the difference between $1000 and $60 is $100? Maybe my mental calcuator is broken, but I think you're off a tad.

I'm not sure why you responded to me with all that when i was talking about the REASONS for the price differences (as SC reiterated above), not what i look for in a whore.

sassfire
11-11-2006, 09:35 PM
This dancer said she made $10,000 in a week at a brothel. I heard you have to stay there for a week, some sorta law thing. I could never work at one, I mean those places are in the boonies. Nothing around on all 4 sides for miles and miles and miles. When you get to a populated town of 15, you don't want to stay long there either. If you drive down to a brothel fill your car up with gas, it will be lonnnngggggg drive back to civilization.

yoda57us
11-12-2006, 08:10 AM
tell that to people who's houses have been wiped out by mudslides? ;-) and i told you two to do that about a month ago :-P so stop acting so suprised that shes up for it. ::)

Dude, who said I was surprised?

Paris
11-12-2006, 05:50 PM
I've never got a "service provider" before. So i dont price shop or any other kind of shop for them. I cut my own hair, because i paid for a shitty haircut that i had to fix and said, "i can do a shitty job for free."

And are you saying the difference between $1000 and $60 is $100? Maybe my mental calcuator is broken, but I think you're off a tad.

I'm not sure why you responded to me with all that when i was talking about the REASONS for the price differences (as SC reiterated above), not what i look for in a whore.

I was merely pointing out that cheap whores are available right here in the US. I've seen some scary looking girls that have also advertized well over the $1000 mark, and sometimes get it:O.

You proved my point exactly about the service provider. You didn't shop around for a good barber, so you got a shitty haircut. There are good barbers out there in a lot of different price points. It isn't nessessary to walk around with bad hair, you just have to do a little shopping around to find someone who knows about your own personal style and what you want and like.

I think that becomes even more important when shopping for a sex provider. As the dollar amounts are a lot bigger than getting a haircut (usually:-\), it is a bigger hit to the wallet when you have a poor sex provider experience. I also think 99% of what makes a sex provider good or bad has very little with what he/she charges, but whether you two are a good fit. Ditto with the barber.

I just chose the $100 number arbitrarily and was not comparing a $60 sex worker as being only $100 less than a $1000 sex worker. I just pulled a figure out of the air to illistrate that when you are spending that kind of cash that an amount of $100 (as another poster compared euros vs. USD) should make no differene at all.

miabella
11-12-2006, 11:48 PM
i am interested in how tart managed to work in a brothel and never have sex with a customer. even if it was book-length, i am pretty sure lots of other girls would love to know that set of secrets, after all.

cherryripeboy
11-12-2006, 11:55 PM
^^ Well you see she *could* tell you, but then she would have to kill you. I think it would be very messy. ;D EvilLOL

stripperMBA
11-13-2006, 12:04 AM
I cut my own hair, because i paid for a shitty haircut that i had to fix and said, "i can do a shitty job for free." .
Hey, I can relate that is why I masterbate a lot too. :rotfl: :rotfl: