View Full Version : Is there anyone on here that's an extra's girl?
Jenny
11-26-2006, 04:48 PM
you're so right. I don't believe that out of all the members on this board not one is an extra girl. No one will admit it.
Well, many, if not most, of the girls (including moi) have admitted to "extras" on at least on occasional basis. I will easily admit to doing extras (colloquially understood) a couple times in my dancing career; it's not, however, on my regular "menu". It doesn't really surprise me that most girls on here may not be "extras girls". I mean, if nothing else, after reading all the posts regarding the blatant stupidity of walking around a club in high heel for up to 9 hours, propositioning guy after guy to do the same work and make the same money that you can discreetly arrange through email and do in a couple of hours would make ME reconsider. "Hey," I might think, "maybe this isn't the best business plan for me, considering I'm so comfortable exchanging fluid with strangers."
Damia
11-28-2006, 04:29 PM
Well i definitely feel better
Xiomara
11-29-2006, 11:53 PM
Ive never done anything in the club. not enough money and not something i want family to hear about when they bail me outta jail.
but when i first started, and was really hurt for money, i did keep one customer around who would pay $600 to spend a night with me. gosh it was so awful and it makes me sick now(made me sick then but had to deal), but i had to do what i had to do back then. wont do it no more!
and i know alot of girls that do that same thing,have one guy they can call for that exhange when money is tight. they just dont admit it.
anyways...whatever u decide,be careful.
Victoryx0x0
11-30-2006, 09:45 AM
Ok... IM GOING TO VENT- because Im sick of this shit= its fuckin up my money and when you fuck with my money your insulting me= anyone whos ITALIAN will understand where I am coming from= when it comes to our money we do not play.
The extras in my club are considered hjs, bjs, fingering an F*kn.
LADIES- This is UNACCEPTABLE. Its nasty- and unsanitary- and just trifling. There are a few girls in my club who do this and it is really disgusting- makes my stomach queasy and my coochie cringe. There are cameras in our lap dance rooms- but girls have managed to get around that or try and be sneaky. Now what really pisses me off- is these girls are putting the OTHER GIRLS AND MANAGERS in danger for getting arrested for consent to prostitution- if one girl in the club gets arrested for it- and any one else was around or they see there are cameras in the room- they will load EVERYONE in the paddy wagon. YES EVERYONE.
IF i GET Arrested for that b.s LET IT BE KNOWN i will also be arrested for ASSAULT for beating the girl up who did it. TRUST ME.
I spoke with our township cops (who have come in and some are my regulars) and they have verbally agreed- the whole club will get arrested for CONSENT to prostitution if one girl is caught doing it. THATS NEW JERSEY FOR YOU.
LET ME REMIND YOU AGAIN: IS YOUR FAULT I HAVE TO FIGHT OFF THESE DIRTY PIGS WHO ARE EXPECTING ME TO DO WHAT YOU DO IN THE LAPDANCE ROOM.
luckily I have a buzzer in the lapdance room=- and when they whip it out- I press the button- security comes- kicks them out- and I still get paid.
Yeah I am talking real bold- cuz Im sick of it...
JustJayda
11-30-2006, 01:30 PM
^^^^Sounds like the Playhouse, lol
Jenny
11-30-2006, 01:37 PM
Thank you for finally saying it. I mean, nobody else here has ever had the guts to put forth that point of view. Thank god you registered here to let us know. Further I really think this posting is going to help create an environment of frank and open discussion about the topic. I mean channels of communication are so important in a business that we hope to maintain as self-regulating, and you have just helped us make giants strides forward.
Thank you, once again. Really. Sincerely.
Jenny.
Ok... IM GOING TO VENT- because Im sick of this shit= its fuckin up my money and when you fuck with my money your insulting me= anyone whos ITALIAN will understand where I am coming from= when it comes to our money we do not play.
The extras in my club are considered hjs, bjs, fingering an F*kn.
LADIES- This is UNACCEPTABLE. Its nasty- and unsanitary- and just trifling. There are a few girls in my club who do this and it is really disgusting- makes my stomach queasy and my coochie cringe. There are cameras in our lap dance rooms- but girls have managed to get around that or try and be sneaky. Now what really pisses me off- is these girls are putting the OTHER GIRLS AND MANAGERS in danger for getting arrested for consent to prostitution- if one girl in the club gets arrested for it- and any one else was around or they see there are cameras in the room- they will load EVERYONE in the paddy wagon. YES EVERYONE.
IF i GET Arrested for that b.s LET IT BE KNOWN i will also be arrested for ASSAULT for beating the girl up who did it. TRUST ME.
I spoke with our township cops (who have come in and some are my regulars) and they have verbally agreed- the whole club will get arrested for CONSENT to prostitution if one girl is caught doing it. THATS NEW JERSEY FOR YOU.
LET ME REMIND YOU AGAIN: IS YOUR FAULT I HAVE TO FIGHT OFF THESE DIRTY PIGS WHO ARE EXPECTING ME TO DO WHAT YOU DO IN THE LAPDANCE ROOM.
luckily I have a buzzer in the lapdance room=- and when they whip it out- I press the button- security comes- kicks them out- and I still get paid.
Yeah I am talking real bold- cuz Im sick of it...
tootsie
11-30-2006, 03:13 PM
Well, many, if not most, of the girls (including moi) have admitted to "extras" on at least on occasional basis. I will easily admit to doing extras (colloquially understood) a couple times in my dancing career; it's not, however, on my regular "menu". It doesn't really surprise me that most girls on here may not be "extras girls". I mean, if nothing else, after reading all the posts regarding the blatant stupidity of walking around a club in high heel for up to 9 hours, propositioning guy after guy to do the same work and make the same money that you can discreetly arrange through email and do in a couple of hours would make ME reconsider. "Hey," I might think, "maybe this isn't the best business plan for me, considering I'm so comfortable exchanging fluid with strangers."
not to be rude, but extras are hj's bj's etc, not touching the arm, leg etc. beating around the bush is what it sounds like to me: " define extra" give me a break. we all know what extras are. so my post was meaning no one on here will admit to hj's bj's etc.
Victoryx0x0
12-01-2006, 08:43 AM
^^^^Sounds like the Playhouse, lol
Yes it is :) Your good :)
lunchbox
12-01-2006, 12:27 PM
Thank you for finally saying it. I mean, nobody else here has ever had the guts to put forth that point of view. Thank god you registered here to let us know. Further I really think this posting is going to help create an environment of frank and open discussion about the topic. I mean channels of communication are so important in a business that we hope to maintain as self-regulating, and you have just helped us make giants strides forward.
Thank you, once again. Really. Sincerely.
Jenny.
I think it is time you got back to the circus :P
JustJayda
12-03-2006, 01:13 AM
Yes it is :) Your good :)
Sorry babe, you're NOT going to win this one. The Playhouse is very protected/connected. Maybe I will eat my words one day, but I don't think it will be in the next 10 years, lol
As long as you have the Kianni's and Sireni's and Mila's etc. The Playhouse will be the type of club that it is. Either you worry about your self and make your clean-money or you do extras and bank out the ass, or you move to another club.
Ain't nobody going to jail up in that motha-phucka, sorry Victory.
Benzes, Jag's, stores on South street, apartment buildings, and 500k homes etc. have been bought by MANY of the girls that dance there. Its not going to change. I got fired from the Playhouse, but it damned sure wasn't for extra's. I did some shit that I don't regret to an extra's girl!
I often think about that place, cuz I'd be rolling in the dough right now, if I'd had the guts to do half the shit those chicks do up in that place. Or maybe I'd have AIDS.
Anyway, good luck and use bleach!
Melonie
12-03-2006, 07:14 AM
Now what really pisses me off- is these girls are putting the OTHER GIRLS AND MANAGERS in danger for getting arrested for consent to prostitution- if one girl in the club gets arrested for it- and any one else was around or they see there are cameras in the room- they will load EVERYONE in the paddy wagon. YES EVERYONE.
IF i GET Arrested for that b.s LET IT BE KNOWN i will also be arrested for ASSAULT for beating the girl up who did it. TRUST ME.
I spoke with our township cops (who have come in and some are my regulars) and they have verbally agreed- the whole club will get arrested for CONSENT to prostitution if one girl is caught doing it. THATS NEW JERSEY FOR YOU.
FYI it's not just Jersey ... in fact it is rare that the cops will only bust girls who were actually caught 'white handed' ! Far more common is, as you say, for the cops to simply bust every dancer in the club - drag them all down to the local holding tank, run wants and warrants, take personal info and fingerprints, and force them all to cough up $500 or whatever in bail money (or the clubowner to cough up $500 per dancer) in order to be released the next morning. Even if the charges are dropped or plea bargained at the local level, this still sucks big time for those dancers who were more or less acting within the law but who got dragged along with the 'extras' girls. This is one of the major reasons that I retired from live dancing, because quite frankly it is a risk / hassle / expense that I simply wasn't willing to deal with any more !!!
Also, these days you can't really 100% count on 'the fix being in' with local politicians, DA's and cops i.e. bust-proof clubs. Between the conservative christians, eminent domain, and greedy public servants, these sort of arrangements can now turn on a dime if political storm clouds start to gather, if a new developer starts throwing around big contribution money, if some neighborhood group gets the media's ear etc. What's the now famous quote ... " in the good ol' days, when you bought a politician ( or judge or whatever), the son of a bitch STAYED bought !" ... no more !
Casual Observer
12-03-2006, 08:30 PM
Thank you for finally saying it. I mean, nobody else here has ever had the guts to put forth that point of view. Thank god you registered here to let us know. Further I really think this posting is going to help create an environment of frank and open discussion about the topic. I mean channels of communication are so important in a business that we hope to maintain as self-regulating, and you have just helped us make giants strides forward.
Thank you, once again. Really. Sincerely.
Well done, Jenny. I'm truly touched by your candor--I'm shedding a Blue Side tear.
:)
<S> Jenny
Victoryx0x0
12-04-2006, 11:10 AM
Sorry babe, you're NOT going to win this one. The Playhouse is very protected/connected. Maybe I will eat my words one day, but I don't think it will be in the next 10 years, lol
As long as you have the Kianni's and Sireni's and Mila's etc. The Playhouse will be the type of club that it is. Either you worry about your self and make your clean-money or you do extras and bank out the ass, or you move to another club.
Ain't nobody going to jail up in that motha-phucka, sorry Victory.
Benzes, Jag's, stores on South street, apartment buildings, and 500k homes etc. have been bought by MANY of the girls that dance there. Its not going to change. I got fired from the Playhouse, but it damned sure wasn't for extra's. I did some shit that I don't regret to an extra's girl!
I often think about that place, cuz I'd be rolling in the dough right now, if I'd had the guts to do half the shit those chicks do up in that place. Or maybe I'd have AIDS.
Anyway, good luck and use bleach!
Ugh That makes me sick Jayda= Im glad you told me that and kept it real!
and yeah it is all those Brazilian girls in there who do the extras-
I wish I knew the percentage of aids among brazilian women... thats wrong but i remember hearing some kind of epidemic about that...
They just fired about 4 american girls in the past 3 months. There is only about 10 non brazilians among 40-50 girls...
They have never ever fired not ONE brazilian girl in the past 3 years FOR DOING EXTRAS (the bouncer said that)
They fired one of my friends for cursing out a brazilian girl because she stole her social security card... and a few days later a new brazilian came in who was friends with all the other ones. .. hmm strange timing isnt it?
Most of those girls are working from 12 in the afternoon to 2am. Lemme remind you they barely ever touch the stage (when they do- it is terrible 2 step dancing OMG its nuts)
francescadubois
12-04-2006, 11:51 AM
Sorry babe, you're NOT going to win this one. The Playhouse is very protected/connected. Maybe I will eat my words one day, but I don't think it will be in the next 10 years, lol
As long as you have the Kianni's and Sireni's and Mila's etc. The Playhouse will be the type of club that it is. Either you worry about your self and make your clean-money or you do extras and bank out the ass, or you move to another club.
Ain't nobody going to jail up in that motha-phucka, sorry Victory.
Benzes, Jag's, stores on South street, apartment buildings, and 500k homes etc. have been bought by MANY of the girls that dance there. Its not going to change. I got fired from the Playhouse, but it damned sure wasn't for extra's. I did some shit that I don't regret to an extra's girl!
I often think about that place, cuz I'd be rolling in the dough right now, if I'd had the guts to do half the shit those chicks do up in that place. Or maybe I'd have AIDS.
Anyway, good luck and use bleach!
So wait, they're doing FS in there? Did you make any money in there, Jayda?
VegasPrincess
12-04-2006, 02:17 PM
I don't think there is anything "morally" wrong with extras, but I don't do them and I don't want them done in my club. (by EXTRAS I mean, sex, blow jobs, hand jobs, grinding on some guy with the intention of making him blow his load, or letting some guy finger you. Of course, if someone is spending enough money, I am going to let them touch my boobs and I'm going to give them a dirtier dance, but I stop there)
Extras cheapen a club. If a guy knows he can fuck some girl in the back room for 500 bucks, that's a lot better deal then paying me 400 bucks to dance around. I don't want to be expected to compete with sucking and fucking, and I don't want my money to suffer because other girls are doing that shit.
Many girls feel lke me and you will probably catch a lot of shit and get fired if you try doing extras at work sweetie. You don't have to do that shit to make money, so don't do it!
$$$magnet
12-04-2006, 03:45 PM
Extras in the club fuck with my money. But I'm also going to say that ADVERTISING those extras you will do outside of the club while at work is also a no-no. This is something that occurs at my club quite frequently.
I am not going to judge what some do outside of the club, but even advertising these things while at work hurts me tremendously....
*Victoryx0x0, thanks for laying it all out on the table girl!:highfive:
JustJayda
12-05-2006, 02:08 PM
So wait, they're doing FS in there? Did you make any money in there, Jayda?
Yes ma'am, FS is available from certain girls, and so is take-out. Yes, I did make some money, but I started to do shit I didn't want to, like participating in a 30minute tittie sucking session.
That was my one regular that refused to let you dance for him, he just wanted to suck your tits, and then would have the same length sessions with two more girls everytime he came in, which was at least twice a week...GROSS!!!!!
I never hid from the camera, and I NEVER got approached by Charlie or any manager. My reg dropped major loot up in there (prolly still does), so it was never a problem. I say that to agree with the fact that the Brazilian girls are untouchable, cuz they make the money for the club on a whole.
You will not work dayshift there (best shift), if you don't consistently sell at least 20 dances per shift. At least that's how it was when Linda was there.
PH was the first club I danced at for more than a few nights. I was pretty green, and etc...
V, you may wanna try Erotic Cafe in Pennsauken, I had heard they'd cleaned up their act, dunno.
Victoryx0x0
12-06-2006, 09:50 AM
Thanks Jayda I will def. go check that out...
Charlie says our club is the worst its been in 10 years as far as business goes...
And yeh- ugh a lot of the guys in the club to try to suck on your tetas- I found out a trick that really works to keep them OFF of them- cuz its nasty and unsanitary... you put rubbing alcohol on your tits so they taste NASTY lol.
I dont think Linda is there anymore... Its run by Angie during the day- and there are basically NO GIRLS allowed on day shift that arent already working that shift- when I come in around 7-8 they are just leaving and their stack is FAT. Im like woooow... its easily $1500 or more. The night shift, we all get the cheap stragglers coming in- I jujst hustle extra hard... I have been checking out other clubs so far The ones Ive seen are even worse... (sugar and spice, red raven, risque, illusions) I like the staff there they have always been nice to me, its only one house mom Kathy who gives me problems, Ive gotten in numerous arguements with her because she is simply RIDICULOUS... (one time she grabbed me on the arm in front of a customer and told me to pay the house - it was 10:30 and house is due by 11) Charlie was like - Ignore that B*TCH. LOL thats my homie.
But I will def. check that spot out. Cuz I am just sick of the PH.
NatalieFRPhilly
12-06-2006, 11:52 AM
Screw new jersey all together and just go to NYC or Philly. there are dirty girls at both cities but you can still make a decent amount being clean. From all girls I have talked to it's not worth bothering with NJ.
VegasPrincess
12-06-2006, 12:26 PM
[QUOTE=sassfire;888046]Excuse me but a lapdance shouldn't involve touching, period. In fact you can't even touch yourself during a lapdance. If you deliberately touch a guy then that is an extra. Some states have laws against touching in clubs. I think the only place you can touch is his arms, go to his chest or groin area and that is illegal. Lapdances are supposed to be airdances. Strippers and customers don't like it but it's true. The laws are so tight ass that the rules have to be bent. For strippers who complain so much about customers touching you, you have no qualms about touching them. Sounds ironic to me.
Uhh, what the hell are you talking about??? Where do you dance? I have worked at air dance clubs before, now I don't, but I hardly consider it an "extra" to touch a man. In fact, I rub my ass on their crotch area because I give a lap dance!! Viva Las Vegas hunnny
PleasureVictim
12-06-2006, 12:42 PM
After reading the last few comments it's not surprising that Playhouse is usually in the top ten list on tuscl.com.
The top club in the state I dance in never drops under #5- and thats because all the guys know they can get laid IN the club. Anything they want is available in the champagne room.
lexXe
12-06-2006, 01:28 PM
Extras cheapen a club. If a guy knows he can fuck some girl in the back room for 500 bucks, that's a lot better deal then paying me 400 bucks to dance around. I don't want to be expected to compete with sucking and fucking, and I don't want my money to suffer because other girls are doing that shit.
I completely agree with this. Extras in clubs cheapen the entire industry making it harder and harder to make money overall. The worst thing is these women do things for dirt cheap which makes no sense to me.
JustJayda
12-06-2006, 02:53 PM
After reading the last few comments it's not surprising that Playhouse is usually in the top ten list on tuscl.com.
The top club in the state I dance in never drops under #5- and thats because all the guys know they can get laid IN the club. Anything they want is available in the champagne room.
Exactly PV!!! You wanna know which clubs are dirty, check tuscl's top 10 list. Playhouse is ALWAYS there, lol
However contrary to what some gals in the thread have said, the girls are not doing it for dirt cheap.
If they were only selling one or two dances, yeah..cheap. However, they are selling blocks of 10 or 20 or 30. I am not making this up, nor am I trying to make the club sound good. These are just facts, many a night you'll hear over the lapdance PA "Dick-Suckarella, that's number 42".
There's a person that keeps time, and announces through all the rooms which dance # you're on, so u and the custy both know. What's amazing is, the dances have nothing to do with the music being played in the club, so this "dancekeeper" keeps track of all the girls doing "'dances" separately!
Anyway, I guess I'm off topic;)
sassfire
12-16-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sassfire
Excuse me but a lapdance shouldn't involve touching, period. ... I think the only place you can touch is his arms ...
All right, sweetie, here's the problem. You're wording your points very poorly. Mine is a constructive criticism. See the problem with these two sentences in the excerpt of your post? They contradict one another when interpreted literally. No touching PERIOD means not even on the arms. I believe what you meant to say was no touching of the genitals period. That wording would cause your observation to make more sense. (Btw, I'm not trying to nitpick about spelling and grammar here; I'm talking about clarity of meaning that helps avoid arguments arising from misunderstandings.)
First don't insult me by calling me "sweetie" that is just a bitch's way of saying bitch. Okay SWEETIE. I'm happy that you passed English Composition class, so I will give you credit for my error. There should be no deliberate touching of the custy and the dancer. That means there are places that you can't help to touch, such as his knees and shoulders. Other places are off limits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sassfire
Lapdances are supposed to be airdances.
Again, poorly worded if you're trying to communicate what I think you are. I think you're attempting to say, "Lapdances aren't supposed to be performed because they're illegal; the private dances are supposed to be airdances only." As others have observed, the laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction so that may not always hold true, but I think this is the general point you were trying to make. The way you worded it, however, well, that's tantamount to saying dogs are supposed to be cats. When interpreted without a little extra implied meaning, your statment is contradictory.
Where and when did I say that lap dancing was illegal? What exactly do you think an "extra" is? An extra for strippers is doing or allowing something that is not the norm and/or is illegal. Are you confusing giving good customer service, with doing something that is not supposed to be done?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sassfire
For strippers who complain so much about customers touching you, you have no qualms about touching them. Sounds ironic to me.
I'm sorry but it seems to me you're just baiting, trolling for emotional reaction, with this remark. Because I refuse to believe you don't actually understand that the complaints are about touching without consent, and no one approves of that. To trigger no complaint, it has to be mutually consensual.
Well since I obviously haven't swallowed the "In order to post here you must agree with everyone" pill, I guess I will be a troll. What of it? That title is oddly very easily given anyway. Yeah I understand the complaints about touching without consent. I do not understand or have sympathy for the complaints of touching without consent while the dancer is performing and/or allowing extras for a custy. If you open a door, no matter how narrow the opening, don't be alarmed if something bad comes in. The custy is at fault and the stripper is at fault. Is there degrees to the level of fault sure, but there is no innocent person in either situation. If the stripper is a new, then she is just naive and didn't know the consequences. If not, then she just gamed by her own game. That's why I don't suggest new strippers should even do extras. Then of course, extras shouldn't be done at all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sassfire
As for you Damia, why are you asking if you can be a prostitute in a strip club? At first I thought you wanted to at least try to work clean, but I guess not. Regardless of what these ladies say here fucking and sucking in a club is not extras that is a one way ticket to jail for prostitution.
Yeah, now you appear to be rewriting history. See why people deem you a troll? The poor communication could be given a little leeway if it's truly unintentional, but mischaracterizing what others said seems disingenuous. She didn't ask if she could be a prostitute, did she? Turns out, after things were clarified, we found out she was inquiring about the various degrees of contact allowed. And, find me a quote if I'm wrong, but no one said fucking and sucking for money is not prostitution. You're locked in a superficial semantics debate over whether prostitution is a subset of extras or a category wholly apart.
Yeah, I will ask that question again and again. I saw in other threads where poster are giving her tips on how to do hustle an extra. Do you expect me to believe that, Damia a former(?) prostitute thinks an extra is a mere pat on the ass or a touch of a breast? Fucking and sucking and sticking is illegal and will be considered a form of prostitution.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sassfire
Did a co-worker tell you that you can do exactly what you do on the streets (or where ever), it's much safer, and no pimp (if you have one)? If you do prostitute like things in a club you are still a prostitute. It is safer in a club, but not that safe and managers are pimps.
You've now touched on the one reason I actually accept as an answer from a woman wanting to prostitute in the club. It's somewhat safer. I realize the negative impact it has, but I have a hard time telling one of my sisters that she should go back out where it's more dangerous when no one else, especially not the State, will take an active role in trying to make it safer.
So you condone prostitution in clubs? I bet that a lot of legit legal strippers would not appreciate that. Strip clubs are strip clubs, not brothels. If she wants to work some place safe and be a prostitute, she should work in a brothel and not a SC.
_______
Many of you said that the laws are different in other states. That is true, but every law has a base. Any extra whether it be touching in legal zones or blatant sex is grounds for arrest or prostitution. The rules of the mgt have nothing to do with actual state laws. You all are allowed your opinion. Yet, I bet that many of you will do a dance completely different if you weren't sure a custy was a cop.
evan_essence
12-18-2006, 01:46 AM
First don't insult me by calling me "sweetie" that is just a bitch's way of saying bitch. Okay SWEETIE. I'm happy that you passed English Composition class, so I will give you credit for my error.Ah, but so begrudingly. You're welcome anyway. As I stated, it wasn't a matter of non-standard composition; it was a matter of making no sense without decoding what you meant to say.
Where and when did I say that lap dancing was illegal?Oh, you didn't. What you said, "Lapdances are supposed to be airdances," made absolutely no sense whatsoever, so I was trying to make some sense of it. But let's start over. If my interpretation of what you meant to say was incorrect, rephrase your statement so it communicates something that can be understood. As I said, lapdances are supposed to be airdances makes as much sense as saying dogs are supposed to be cats.
Well since I obviously haven't swallowed the "In order to post here you must agree with everyone" pill, I guess I will be a troll. What of it?Well, in my book, that's not the defining element of a troll. The defining element of a troll is a failure to contribute in a manner that the community finds constructive and/or entertaining.
Yeah I understand the complaints about touching without consent. I do not understand or have sympathy for the complaints of touching without consent while the dancer is performing and/or allowing extras for a custy. If you open a door, no matter how narrow the opening, don't be alarmed if something bad comes in.Some customers think that taking your clothes off is opening the door for them to do whatever they want, but we rightly complain if they try something.
I'm thinking the bottom line is, regardless of where the boundary is drawn, it's the dancer who draws it, not the customer. The customer is out of bounds when he isn't willing to adhere to the dancer's boundaries. And what I allow doesn't have to be equitable. I take my clothes off, the customer doesn't. In a one-way contact club, I touch, the customer doesn't. So, yeah, I think it's legitimate to complain if the customer steps over the boundary.
Yeah, I will ask that question again and again. I saw in other threads where poster are giving her tips on how to do hustle an extra. Do you expect me to believe that, Damia a former(?) prostitute thinks an extra is a mere pat on the ass or a touch of a breast?Honestly? I would expect you to be unsure of what she meant. And to post accordingly. Honestly. Former(?) sweetie.
So you condone prostitution in clubs? I bet that a lot of legit legal strippers would not appreciate that. Strip clubs are strip clubs, not brothels. If she wants to work some place safe and be a prostitute, she should work in a brothel and not a SC.First off, no, I don't condone working outside the norms of the club. I think that's bad for business reasons. But let's put that aside for a moment so I can pursue the point, which was that I have reservations about telling a fellow sex worker to go practice their craft someplace less safe. You said yourself a SC is safer than the street. Perhaps it's safer than a brothel or out call, I dunno. A strip club has ..how can I put this accurately.. somewhat more legitimacy in the eyes of the law than a brothel. We know a brothel is outlawed outright (except in Nevada), whereas strip clubs are not. So I'll ask you the crux of the issue I'm raising. Do you think a woman is less likely to come to harm and/or be arrested performing acts of prostitution in a strip club as opposed to other venues?
The rules of the mgt have nothing to do with actual state laws. You all are allowed your opinion. Yet, I bet that many of you will do a dance completely different if you weren't sure a custy was a cop.True that club rules, policies or norms have no resemblance to what the law allows or prohibits. However, I bet everyone would avoid dancing at all for a customer if they thought he was a cop. I mean, there's some interpretational latitude (if not downright dishonesty) on the part of the enforcer that makes it smart to be more conservative or shy completely away, isn't there?
-Ev
Lipstixx
06-18-2007, 06:42 AM
^^i think extras are extras. a bj, a hj, fucking. all one in the same in a SC, in that they don't come standard with a lap dance. right?In some places, (where no contact is involved) grinding on a customer would be considered "extras"
LuckiCharm
06-18-2007, 09:20 AM
Wow...This is an old thread-like....7 months old....
UtahMike
06-18-2007, 12:17 PM
Very interesting reading.
FWIW, there are customers who has absolutely NO interest in cumming in their pants or even getting particularly hard. And If I knew that extras (HJ, BJ, FS) were being given in some club, that would be a club where I would not go. Looking and touching (not groping), yeah that's just fun. But anything more, sorry, but is more than anything with which I'll associate.