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Bridgette
12-05-2006, 10:16 PM
I think it's all just a reflection of the state of our economy overall. Like I always say, that bullshit GeeDubya's drones like to spew about the economy getting better and being better than ____ is all b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t. The housing boom was manufactured by the powers that be lowering interest rates, mortgage companies pushing bullshit loans and real estate companies stirring up false competition among buyers. Without all that crap overinflating demand and consumer buying power, real estate prices would've stayed pretty stagnant. It was all hype, and unfortunately alot of people bought into it - which got some money circulating for a while, but as we've seen it couldn't last and now we'll have to pay the price. We're living on borrowed time in this country IMO, and the current shitty state of the stripping industry is a big fat look in that mirror.

Our industry won't ever return to anything remotely close to what it was unless and until our ECONOMY returns to something like it was before.

Emily
12-06-2006, 01:04 AM
On a positive note, now there's Stripperweb. It's likely that many who stripped in the 90's don't have much to show for it now.

yes! I don't think I would have started dancing if not for sites ont he internet, like the feminist stripper site. And I wouldn't be half as good as I am without Stripperweb. So maybe the internet didn't ruin stripping completely!

NinaDaisy
12-06-2006, 03:58 PM
Our industry won't ever return to anything remotely close to what it was unless and until our ECONOMY returns to something like it was before.

You're right, and I just don't see it happening in terms of going back to what it was. Economies are always evolving, but the 20th century was generally one of prosperity for America in large part due to industrialization and good Union manufacturing jobs that just don't exist anymore. The rich do keep getting richer, but they're not the typical audience for SC's. By "rich" I don't mean someone making a quarter or even half a million a year, I mean multi-multi millionaires that have gotten even richer with the crazy bull market we've had lately. The stock market has been very, very good the last couple of years. The middle class - as usual - keeps getting screwed and is just barely hanging on to their "status".

One huge problem also (which I think pertains to Birdgette's comment about "borrowed time") is that credit card debt in this country is hitting critical mass. And especially with the new and much stricter bankruptcy laws, the people who took advantage of the old laws and just spent too much and blew it off (of course I'm not referring to people who went bankrupt because of "real" things like medical bills they couldn't pay) can't pull that shit anymore. You'd think that would result in lower credit-card interest rates, but the CC companies keep getting more and more sketchy and giving more and more credit to subprime applicants who can't pay their bills but still want that Escalade or vacation to Cancun or shopping spree at Bebe.

Anyhow, that's all also contributing too.

Another big problem is outsourcing of good, well-paying manufacturing jobs in this country. A lot of the smaller clubs that girls could still bank at were frequented by blue collar guys that had jobs that paid well, had benefits and a pension. Now it's next to impossible to find jobs like that as they're often outsourced.

The manufacturing job guys are gone from smaller clubs and expense accounts are gone for the corporate bigwigs, who frankly have enough of their own money to burn at a club. I guess they're spending that money now paying off their wife's Neiman Marcus bill.

Now it seems all that you see at clubs are kids with no money (as Tina's often said, scaring away the target demographic of guys in their 40's-60's who WANT to spend money) and sketchy guys who assume a handjob for $20 is par for the course since they're too chickenshit to get a streetwalker (I guess that way they feel they're not "paying for it"? Whatever. ::) ) and too many girls that will give them that HJ.

Like I was saying in my earlier post, it's a vicious cycle with no end in sight.

Aine
12-06-2006, 10:20 PM
Stripping in the 90's and stripping now are two very different jobs. Not only was there no internet competition, there weren't even TV's in the clubs. No video games, no cell phones. There was absolutely no contact then, and we were discouraged from talking to customers.
On a positive note, now there's Stripperweb. It's likely that many who stripped in the 90's don't have much to show for it now.

From my own personal stand point as someone who danced in the early 90's, the clubs I danced at had tv's and video games. There was no contact in most clubs, though there were a few that bent the rules that I didnt stay at, and we were never discouraged from talking to customers. The hustle was the same and the head games were played then just like they are now, we just didnt have email to make it that much easier. And I've plenty to show for the time I did put it in. And I did have internet in 94 which was the last year I danced, but we were connecting then at whopping speeds of 2400 and got all excited when we went to 28.8..lol.

sensuality
12-07-2006, 08:24 AM
Holy crap!!!!
It's uber-rare to make $1000 on a night at my club. If that was a "good" pretty common night for me, I would be in heaven :)

shakti
12-07-2006, 10:58 AM
From my own personal stand point as someone who danced in the early 90's, the clubs I danced at had tv's and video games. There was no contact in most clubs, though there were a few that bent the rules that I didnt stay at, and we were never discouraged from talking to customers. The hustle was the same and the head games were played then just like they are now, we just didnt have email to make it that much easier. And I've plenty to show for the time I did put it in. And I did have internet in 94 which was the last year I danced, but we were connecting then at whopping speeds of 2400 and got all excited when we went to 28.8..lol.


Yeah, everyone's club was different then, as they are now. I can only speak from my experience, and not having all the other distractions in the club (TV, video games, cell phones) made a difference. Just dancers in their glittery costumes under the flashing lights, nothing else for the customers to look at. Here (in the Southwest) "wanna dance" has always prevailed and there was a rule for us that you couldn't sit with customers and you were discouraged from letting them get to know you at all. It kept things moving and it kept things distant. I've also danced in Dallas, Portland, OR and NYC but I chose to return here because I liked the style better. Albuquerque, being a bit behind larger cities, had a very innocent strip club scene for my first few years of dancing, I realize I was lucky to have experienced that, as it's no longer the case.

I didn't at all mean to insinuate that dancers in the 90's having nothing to show for it. I do. Then as now, some do, some don't. My point was that the information now available on Stripperweb can help dancers make it a worthwhile experience, even though clubs are rougher and the money is lower than in the 90's. Also, to let dancers now know that though they may have missed out on the better days of stripping they can benefit from the money management/ hustling tips on this site in ways that dancers 10 years ago could not.

Aine
12-07-2006, 07:16 PM
I totally agree Shatki...Stripperweb I believe has helped many a dancer be wiser about their money and the smart wannabes hopefully find their way here before they step in a club, so they go in knowing what to expect, have tips on how to hustle, and learn to handle their money well!

Bridgette
12-08-2006, 01:37 AM
though they may have missed out on the better days of stripping they can benefit from the money management/ hustling tips on this site in ways that dancers 10 years ago could not.AMEN!!! I think back on my earlier days, when the money just seemed to fall out of the sky, and I watched the more experienced girls literally get hundreds from guys in a matter of minutes and move on to someone else to do the same thing. I wondered how the hell they were doing it. WTF they were saying. I was making great money but the more experienced girls back then were making RIDICULOUS money. Just ridiculous! I WISH we'd had SW back then or something even remotely close. Thankfully we have it now so we can benefit from a whole lot more accumulated knowledge with which to keep us all from starving. LOL ;D

21stcenturyfox
12-08-2006, 08:45 AM
wow that would be awesome to average those huge $$$$$$
yet customers still come in and assume i must be rich coz im a stripper.
one guy even asked one of the other dancers that i work with if she drove a lamborgini?? yeh right maybe if customers started spending again.

I used to get that ALL THE TIME. customers thinking we're rich cos we strip. Er honey, YOU have to spend on ME for me to be rich? didnt you do maths in school?

If the customers arent rich, neither are we. In England, people have less money than in the US and we dont have nice things like tipping rails... :o/

Im going back to dancing next week and I am hoping I can come home with at least £200 a night. My dream is to make £1000 a week working 3 nights a week. Im hoping this is possible once im in the right club and have my hustle down perfect...

I just read on a UK stripper forum that its been the quietest christmas period in this one girl's 9yr dancing career! :( Not happy...

Looks like I will have to get a regular job just to support my stripper job, how much does that suck!?

21stcenturyfox
12-08-2006, 08:58 AM
so basically, what we need to figure out is - WHERE IS THE MONEY NOW?

If its not in stripping or any place else it used to be, where has it gone?

I know of a girl in London who is a "travel companion" to extremely wealthy men but she only sees one gentleman per month for AT LEAST two days and charges £6000 per day. And she chooses them very carefully.

If the money to be spent is available only to fewer and fewer people these days, maybe its time to find a way of getting to those people?

Membership only strip clubs?

21stcenturyfox
12-08-2006, 09:02 AM
ps: maybe we should also start carstrating men, that way we can carstrate their expectations.

I saw a good quote the other day:

"Men are such cocksuckers aren't they? You don't have to answer that. It's true. They're scared. Their dicks get limp when confronted by a woman of obvious power and what do they do about it? Call them witches, burn them, torture them, until every woman is afraid. Afraid of herself... afraid of men... and all for what? Fear of losing their hard-on."

and

"No man ever died of an erection--though many women have."

I know theyre very feminist quotes, but it got me thinking...