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Pamela
12-21-2006, 09:00 AM
For what it's worth, I love Ann Rice. IMO she was the best, if not the first, at romanticizing the Vampire.

Thread jack over!

Right! Any lady i feel in the adult biz. should read Ann Rice. I have MY Secret Garden, (womens fantasies) Men in Love, (mens fantasies) Forbidden Flowers (more up-dated womens fantasies) and My Mother My Self!

All great reads. A few others i can't remember the names...kinda boring i thought, so i did not buy them.

Bridgette
12-21-2006, 10:01 AM
Um, I didn't forget to mention that you'd changed, Pamela. That was my whole point.

From my experience, most strippers don't really change all that much from their beginning stages throughout their careers. Of course most don't dance all that long either. But even the long-timers I've known didn't really change THAT much. I sure haven't.

I guess I just think it's interesting how drastically you changed your own position on the subject, which is pretty unusual you must admit.

Pamela
12-21-2006, 10:10 AM
Um, I didn't forget to mention that you'd changed, Pamela. That was my whole point.

From my experience, most strippers don't really change all that much from their beginning stages throughout their careers. Of course most don't dance all that long either. But even the long-timers I've known didn't really change THAT much. I sure haven't.

I guess I just think it's interesting how drastically you changed your own position on the subject, which is pretty unusual you must admit.

Not at all. I am simply not you. If you last 20 yrs and 5 moinths stripping, great. I did! I am now out. Also people change all the time. Hey, i am a risk taker. I am no fool either. I do as i please with my life, not what others see as it should be.

I can be one of the dancers you never knew could do it. But damn proud i did. And wish you to do the same.

Sure, i am not a team player. But...if you knew me, you would know for a fact how many adult jobs i have taken and how they change you! Money will change a person into wanting more. That's all that happened to me.

I LOVE money. I made my money. I was waiting for the jobs (hospital and stripping) to end, as they have.

May i say dance longer, and you will see i am NOT the only one to change ALOT!

21...c'mon i was a babe in the woods. 30's i was into alot! Now i am settled, out of the biz. Ran my course and proud of what i have done for me.

I know your close to me in age...but again because you have not done what i have...that makes it not do-able? No. Sadly you are wrong. People change all the time, and some change alot, as i have.

8)

Bridgette
12-21-2006, 10:35 AM
Pamela, you aren't getting it. I was simply making an observation. Not trying to fight or make you look bad. Of COURSE you aren't me, or anyone else.

I just may dance 20 years, before it's over. hehe. I'm certainly not stopping anytime soon.

I can say I've changed in one way since I started stripping: I used to think I'd never dance that long. Now I say I may dance aLOT longer.

I'm well aware people change over time. Sure. But it's fairly unusual for most people to make the very BIG changes you did, especially in such a (relatively) short time. That's all I'm saying. Your attitude about dancing was way different 4 years ago - not 20, but 4. I'm saying that's interesting, because most girls I've known don't change that much in that amount of time. It's not a slam. In fact, I'd say it's admirable really - that someone can go from one extreme to another and make the best of BOTH ends.

I have respect for you as a stripper, what little I could know from a message board. Shit I have respect for ANY woman who can do this job 20 years! So please don't take what I'm saying here as an insult.

Pamela
12-21-2006, 11:11 AM
Never Bridgette. It's all good.

Keep up the good work hun!

sassfire
12-23-2006, 01:00 AM
My curiosity has gotten the best of me.

How do you hustle when you are giving extras?

You are joking right? How do you hustle? As if you don't know, you are a prostitute, their whole job is to hustle. You don't have to offer up too much of an hustle when your intention is to suck and fuck dick. Are you worried about getting busted? Whoring in SC may not have the same risk of arrest as on the streets, but sooner or later it will catch up to you.

Once again I will say this a 1,000 times:

"Why the fuck, are you asking how to be PROSTITUTE in a strip club?"

And people here get pissed at me and say I am not for strippers. Yet a former prostitute can come on here with this bullshit. Whatever, you all just continue to give her tips on whoring. I know that a few threads later someone will create a stupid thread titled "Why do guys keeping asking me if i will suck them off?:'( "

Stripping and prostitution is two entirely different things. Prostitution in clubs is a plague and should not me tolerated in any means. It is unfair to legitimate strippers and causes them to loose money. I have worked in a club where prostitution had taken over 65% of the club. On my orientation tour the hostess even suggest I bring a box of Kleenex in the VIP room. They even had a suggested whore who would kindly take on request that you did not want to do. I didn't work there long. Too many custies coming just because of the club's reputation.


I thought this was Stripperweb not Prostituteweb.

Pamela
12-23-2006, 09:17 AM
NO this is OTHER WORK. And she has a right to ask for answers. Many ladies perform extras, and there could be many reasons she is asking, perhaps curious as to WHY? Or how to do it?

I for one will continue to give all the help i can....please don't forget this is "Other Work" where we can and wil post about extras etc. and should be able to talk freely about it. I don't care for extras in the clubs...no way. But you see many clubs will turn a blind eye knowing the stripper may bring in more $$$$, and that means more for the club too. It's reality.

Thank you.

sassfire
12-23-2006, 03:15 PM
NO this is OTHER WORK. And she has a right to ask for answers. Many ladies perform extras, and there could be many reasons she is asking, perhaps curious as to WHY? Or how to do it?

I for one will continue to give all the help i can....please don't forget this is "Other Work" where we can and wil post about extras etc. and should be able to talk freely about it. I don't care for extras in the clubs...no way. But you see many clubs will turn a blind eye knowing the stripper may bring in more $$$$, and that means more for the club too. It's reality.

Thank you.

Clubs (i.e.: club management) turns a blind eye to a lot of things. That is another thing, the real question is should strippers turn a blind eye to illegal prostitution. There is a place for prostitution and it is NOT in strip clubs. Yes, it brings in money but at what cost. I don't post threads whining about the way custy treats strippers, then at the same time telling a prostitute how she can practice her craft in the clubs. What exactly do you think is going to happen if a custy gets a real stripper? He will assume that she will do the same shit as a prostitute will.

I smiled with glee whenever I witnessed whores getting arrested in strip clubs. Flush the bitches out I say. Good riddance.

By the way, your concept of other work is different from mine. What does this section have threads on how to make meth or how to do a proper drug deal or how to be a common thief.

Pamela
12-23-2006, 04:58 PM
We had a Meth thread! And the chick gave advice about it! However, many of what strippers ask are related to earnings when it's about extras, umm we all know how to steal clothing if we really want to, is easy.

First, how do you know SHE actually wants to be an extras girl? Second, why feel the way you do. If you are a damn good hustler, she will not affect your earnings.

I, like you do did not care for the extras in the clubs i danced...And turned my share in.

She has not given her story...so we should not be so nasty as to assume, when we really don't know what her intentions are.


But please this is a forum...Other Work. I really don't think we will toerate anyone who is a theif with the "How to Steal dancer wear while she is on stage" theory. Seriously. Sorry if her message makes you upset.

Honest question. Deserves answers as to why not do it. But not be bitched at.

cameronfl
12-23-2006, 08:40 PM
If you are a damn good hustler, she will not affect your earnings.




I'm going to have to disagree here. If you have one or two extras girls ...maybe. But here, when 95% are hard core(BJ, HJ, FS) extras prostitutes..it DOES definately affect my earnings. I cant tell you how many times I've heard..."you're the prettiest and my favorite here...but she'll give me a blow job so I'm getting my dances with her". It has become so rampant, guys expect it most of the time and if all you are going to do is dance...well, thats not why most guys are there anymore. Why get a dance from me when almost all the other girls there will do a WHOLE lot more for the same price. (and we're a full contact club...so my dances arent even air dances)Before the extras whores took over the clubs i made crazy money...now I have to go out of town to pay my bills.
I know my hustle is still good, because the second I step into a club where that crap isnt going on...I bank.


I have no actual problem with prostitution...it has its place in society and if thats what you want to do...have at it and best of luck. Just dont do it in my club.

Pamela
12-23-2006, 08:59 PM
I'm going to have to disagree here. If you have one or two extras girls ...maybe. But here, when 95% are hard core(BJ, HJ, FS) extras prostitutes..it DOES definately affect my earnings. I cant tell you how many times I've heard..."you're the prettiest and my favorite here...but she'll give me a blow job so I'm getting my dances with her". It has become so rampant, guys expect it most of the time and if all you are going to do is dance...well, thats not why most guys are there anymore. Why get a dance from me when almost all the other girls there will do a WHOLE lot more for the same price. (and we're a full contact club...so my dances arent even air dances)Before the extras whores took over the clubs i made crazy money...now I have to go out of town to pay my bills.
I know my hustle is still good, because the second I step into a club where that crap isnt going on...I bank.


I have no actual problem with prostitution...it has its place in society and if thats what you want to do...have at it and best of luck. Just dont do it in my club.

I see you dance south Fl. That is where i danced. 95% is a very high number of extra ladies to be working around. It was not that bad three yrs. ago. We always had them. But many men don't want that shit either.

How sad how clubs have changed for the worse.

If you feel shoot me a PM, i would love to hit the club your at! I am a good tipper too ;)

JustJayda
12-24-2006, 04:10 AM
I think Jada said it best ;) I so wanna steal that as my signature haha

you are more than welcome to;)

sassfire
12-24-2006, 06:27 AM
I know of one club in Vegas that turned 90% plus whorehouse. A few I think are only 40% to 50%. Most clubs are just 10% to 25%, but even that is bad. Another bad thing is that they bring the cops in more often. When an undercover knows that illegal shit is going on they will set up a raid. Sometimes strippers who are legit get arrested in the mix of prostitutes. I have seen that myself. The poor girl got hustled into doing a dance with a prostitute (who did all the hustling while she wasn't there) and got arrested too. That's why when I worked I stayed far away from them.

PhillyDancer1982
12-24-2006, 10:54 AM
Damia, as a few people already pointed out...WHY do you want to do extras in the club? Why don't you become an escort(it's a little classier than being a prostitute on the street corner) instead? Why do you want to sour the strip club environment by doing extras, which will ultimately result in the guys becomming "spoiled" and expecting more "bang for their buck"(pun intended)? There are many long-term bad effects of doing extras. For example, if a club has a reputation for giving out extras, then it will result in attracting a cheaper, trashier clientele and ultimately the classy business guys(the ones who will pay you for a fantasy that involves no extras and little work at all!) will go elsewhere. And then these cheap, trashy ghetto guys that are left, will expect to get handjobs for a few dollars in tips. You will ultimately have to lower your prices for the extras.

Plus, you might get a disease and THAT is a very expensive health expense. And then when you try to apply for individual health insurance(we have to provide our own healthcare, since strip clubs don't offer group plans), you will have to pay a much higher rate if you have a chronic STD or a history of healthcare claims related to STD treatment.

Please please please realize that extras in the strip club is no good! If you have to, become an escort! I don't even agree with the idea of meeting customers outside the club for paid extras. Because the long-term effect of that will be, a bunch of cheap customers who will say "But I don't want a lapdance, I want to take you somewhere outside the club." And I know that we all love these guys!(total sarcasm) ::-) If you're gonna do extras, become an escort. Check out erosgirls.com(sp?) or a site like that to see what I'm talking about.

sassfire
12-24-2006, 11:00 AM
I don't know why she doesn't work at brothel in Nevada. They make loads of money and the owner seems really nice on TV. Damia, send them an email, save your money and fly there. I think you would be happier.

cameronfl
12-24-2006, 11:19 AM
I see you dance south Fl. That is where i danced. 95% is a very high number of extra ladies to be working around. It was not that bad three yrs. ago. We always had them. But many men don't want that shit either.

How sad how clubs have changed for the worse.

If you feel shoot me a PM, i would love to hit the club your at! I am a good tipper too ;)

It is VERY sad. Its changed 180degrees from when I started 6 yrs ago. The club I'm at now the money is so-so, but its literally the ONLY clean club I've found here.

I sent you a PM....I'd love for you to come see me! I'll even give you a free dance!(has to be table since they take the money for our frictions at the door)

Pamela
12-24-2006, 01:24 PM
It is VERY sad. Its changed 180degrees from when I started 6 yrs ago. The club I'm at now the money is so-so, but its literally the ONLY clean club I've found here.

I sent you a PM....I'd love for you to come see me! I'll even give you a free dance!(has to be table since they take the money for our frictions at the door)

Your a DOLL!!! After the 1st i will able to come on in!!! :) :) :) :)

One free...nah, Don't do that. You are there to make $$$$$ ;)

*checking pm*

cameronfl
12-24-2006, 03:11 PM
Your a DOLL!!! After the 1st i will able to come on in!!! :) :) :) :)

One free...nah, Don't do that. You are there to make $$$$$ ;)

*checking pm*

Bah...A cpl bucks wont kill me! Besides... I so rarely get to dance for a hot blonde!

Pamela
12-24-2006, 03:27 PM
Lol....well then don't be so quick to walk away from the table without looking back ;)

I wont be alone. My roomate wants to come. He is very cool. Kinda shy of clubs, so i will buy him dances....Got ya....Can't wait!!!!!!

P.

stripper01
01-03-2007, 04:27 PM
I can't speak of 'extras' like sucking dick etc. But can talk about making a man cum while dancing. I was a contact dancer. I made great money!


:-* oh my god !

Damia
01-10-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm still researching the places I want to work at. I've picked a few places in SF and NV. I can't really go far for too long right now. I haven't been back in a club for months because i'm stablizing my day job.

For everyone wondering why I'm asking all of these questions is simply because of the fact that I like dancing as a hobby. But, i need to make as much as i can in as little time as possible. I understand that most extra's girls won't fess up in public but i feel that i along with a lot of other newbies wonder about this particular side of 'dancing.' If i can't ask question (whether or not the topic is taboo) what's the point of even being on stripperweb?

Damia
01-10-2007, 05:46 PM
Oh and thanks Pamela!

Kaylinn
01-10-2007, 06:52 PM
For everyone wondering why I'm asking all of these questions is simply because of the fact that I like dancing as a hobby. But, i need to make as much as i can in as little time as possible. I understand that most extra's girls won't fess up in public but i feel that i along with a lot of other newbies wonder about this particular side of 'dancing.' If i can't ask question (whether or not the topic is taboo) what's the point of even being on stripperweb?

Heres the thing about extras. If you had a good enough hustle, you wouldnt need to give extras to make as much money as you'd like. Extras are only for weak dancers who do not have a good enough hustle to carry them, so they have to offer more.
So instead of illegally putting out in a strip club, either
A. Brush up your hustling skills, and dance clean or
B. Work at a brothel in NV where it is legal. of course, if you want to you can do
C. Illegally offer extras in a club until you dance for the wrong person, get caught by Vice, go to jail, lose your lisence, get a big fine......

Pamela
01-12-2007, 12:41 PM
Oh and thanks Pamela!

You're welcome ;)

Please first a few things to remember:

I danced around extras girls. I was one who turned my share in. They put the club (and you) at risk.

You do run the risk of disease. Guys in strip clubs don't do condoms (99%) why should they.

There are many more reasons. Go legal hun. You WILL BANK! You will be required to have a man wear condoms too ;)

If you want to go a bit over the edge as i did. I danced in clubs where i was allowed (never a bust) to give naughty lap dances by way of alot of friction. Is easy to do without many other dancers knowing! I was not breaking any law as far as i ever knew. I danced for a ton of men over the years, and i would be a fool to think i never had vice under my lap! ;D

Be careful..Try not to break laws for the sake of other dancers trying to make a living. I say do your best to go legal! You sound like you would be great. And yes i do know people CHANGE ALOT, when you are money hungry you wonder how far you can go for say....an extra $200 for 10 minutes. I DID! Only way of nude nasty stage shows...and lds that grind.