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Emily
12-28-2006, 01:43 AM
Not for nothing, but it's all very fishy like he want to frame you for something. And then he gives you his credit card for you to sign out for him on his behalf? Doesn't that seem odd? And you have a rental car in his name too?

It all sounds so creepy.

DylanAngel
12-28-2006, 01:47 AM
I'm glad you've decided to end this.

Do me a favor. Please continue to post after this is over because now I'm really worried about you hon.

Be safe.

greenidlady1
12-28-2006, 01:47 AM
You mean to cover his ass in the fact that he is somewhere doing something while he is really somewhere else doing something else?

Emily
12-28-2006, 01:48 AM
yeah, or trying to make it seems like you stole his card or something

but in any case, it doens't seem right. If he wanted you to take grammy out on his dime, why didn't he go along? or give you cash?

Bella21
12-28-2006, 01:49 AM
::picks jaw up from the ground::

Green, would you like me to kick this guy's ass for you?

virgoamm
12-28-2006, 01:49 AM
I'm glad you've decided to end this.

Do me a favor. Please continue to post after this is over because now I'm really worried about you hon.

Be safe.

I'm worried too-please keep us updated so we know that everything is okay....

greenidlady1
12-28-2006, 01:58 AM
Who knows Em but I took her somewhere nice. My grandma knows the situation, her and I are extremely close. If he f*cks with me tommorrow which I have a feeling he will be kissing my ass instead than I will nail his ass. I have been telling him that I plan to go work for a major airline and move away or start school to be a physician's assistant which I do plan on doing. I just want to get away so I can get over this crap.

Obenta
12-28-2006, 02:53 AM
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously. I mean, I'm trying really hard not to be insulting but this is just common sense!

Aside from all the legal problems here,
WHY IN THE FUCK IS HE DOING ANYTHING AT ALL FOR HIS EX EVER?
WHY IN THE FUCK DOES HE THINK YOU SHOULD DO ANYTHING FOR HIS EX EVER?

HELLO?!?!

If you stay with this guy for another day, I say you have mental problems. I feel ok saying this because as "insulting" as it sounds, you know what I'm saying is true, else you wouldn't have posted about this in the first place.

As for the gun purchasing, here are some details for you:

1. You do NOT need a "permit" or "license" to purchase a gun. Some places require a background check/waiting period.
2. Guns are not required to be "registered" in most states (CA and NY being exceptions I believe. Check your state laws)
3. There will be a record of who bought the gun (you!)
4. Unless the gun is properly and LEGALLY transferred (with proper paperwork) into someone else's name who is able to own the gun LEGALLY, YOU MAY BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY ACT COMMITTED WITH THE GUN!
5. YOU are responsible for proper transfer of ownership of the gun NOT THE RECIPIENT! That means it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to thoroughly investigate criminal background/mental state/history of the person you transfer it to.
6. There are heavy legal penalties (for YOU!) for supplying a gun to someone who cannot legally own one. This includes felons, mental cases, those who have a restraining order against them and immigrants.

(Disclaimer: Your local laws may vary, but for most states, the above statements are true. Check the laws in your area! Even if what I said doesn't apply for some reason, why would you ever consider doing this??)

JUST SAY NO!

You don't have to give this guy any reasons why you don't want to do it! You don't have to justify or explain shit!

Obenta
12-28-2006, 02:57 AM
Just wanted to add... The permit is for carrying the gun legally on your person. Some locales allow permit holders a shorter (or no) waiting period because they have already been through a state and federal background check when they got the permit. You can purchase a gun without a permit. You do not need a permit to own a gun, just to carry it (again, most states).

mild2wild
12-28-2006, 03:54 AM
Umm if I read correctly, why would he get you a hire car? Doesn't this all seem way to strange?

Seriously I agree with Obenta on this, your a silly silly women if you think this is 'normal'

BTW. Dont get the hire car on his credit card! Imagine he is off doing something illegal and your out there hiring cars, having dinner and god knows what else on his CC he could use this as an alibi!.... Honestly sounds like this guy is dodgy - VERY DODGY!

Good Luck.... CAUSE YOUR GOING TO NEED IT, IF YOU HANG OUT WITH THIS LOOSER!

Classic'sMontana
12-28-2006, 08:32 AM
I skimmed.... only the OP.....


DO NOT DO THIS.

Will
12-28-2006, 09:43 AM
I have a question for anyone that wants to help. My boyfriend wants me to get a pistol permit in my name so that he can purchase a pistol to give to his ex-gf as she returned all of his belongings including his pistol to him. She lives alone and needs a gun. For some reason he doesn't want to change his license address to where he now resides and thinks it would be easier for me to change my address which I do have to change anyway since I moved here. I just feel weird putting a gun permit in my name if I am not buying a gun. Does it matter whose name the permit goes under if someone else is buying it?

Of course it matters!!!!Although the laws differ state to state, DO NOT under any circumstances do what your BF is asking you to do. Any legal problems with that gun will come back to you and only you. Your BF is asking you to take a large legal risk, which in some states can be a MANDETORY year in jail. What you need is a new BF, as the one you have now does not care about your well being. I am a strong supporter of people’s right to own guns, and an even bigger supporter of women owning guns to protect themselves, but your BF needs to pull his head from his you know what. Good luck.

Pamela
12-28-2006, 09:46 AM
I just read the whole thread as it grew over the night.

I only wonder what's up with you and this guy? Really. Wow, tell him to go to hell. Don't take calls from him, and get a restraining order to show him you don't want him fucking with you. Because that is all he is doing fucking with you. Every time you talk to him, you fuel the fire.

Why would a woman..or a person for that fact put up with this.

Keep in contact with him and you may very well end up in some sort of trouble.
Be done.

This is just crazy shit out of movies. Walk.

CuriousJ
12-28-2006, 09:49 AM
Okay first answer no you dont buy anyone a gun in your name . And second maybe you should get your own gun and take some lessons on how to use it . ;)

VenusGoddess
12-28-2006, 12:21 PM
I just wanted to add that its not a felony to back date a separation date. There is no way that anyone can prove/disprove date of separation. One of my friends back dated her separation date to the date that she found out her husband cheated on her...because in her mind...he performed an act that meant he did not take their wedding vows seriously, thus effectively ending the marriage. No problems there and that back date was almost a year.

Back dating your separation date and purchasing a hand gun for someone else are two totally different things. Apples and oranges.

Tell the dude to fuck off...get out of that relationship. This guy has "psycho" written all over him. Get out, now.

Hello_Kitty27
12-28-2006, 06:34 PM
Hope all goes well tomorrow and that you do leave him.

FrustratedBunny
12-28-2006, 09:40 PM
yeah, I hope it all goes well for you too. This dude sound really manipulative. Sometimes it's hard to see it when you are in the situation. The guy I dated a while back (who happened to be a pilot too) I had feelings he wasn't honest and even my friends were telling me that he wasn't and now looking back I'm thinking wtf was wrong with me?!? We never want to believe it but damn, some men can really do a number on your head.

virgoamm
12-29-2006, 12:46 AM
Greenidlady1-How are things going? Are you okay? I've been checking your threads all day because I've been worried about you and everything that is going on. Please update when you get a chance! :grouphug:

greenidlady1
12-29-2006, 02:07 PM
I am fine, I made my boundaries clear and that I would not do this.

Yekhefah
12-29-2006, 02:17 PM
So you dumped the guy too, right?

Emily
12-29-2006, 03:13 PM
what yek said...

it's not a gun permit question.

it's a "why are you with this manipulative douchebag that is still in love with his ex" question...

Bella21
12-29-2006, 03:15 PM
What did he say to defend himself?

Xiomara
12-29-2006, 03:17 PM
It sounds like you are dealing with a man who has not let go of his relationship with this other woman.

It is not your responsibility to take care of his ex. You may want to rethink this relationship and run, not walk, away.

shes right. let her get her own gun.

greenidlady1
12-29-2006, 03:25 PM
When I told him it was illegal and why would he ask me to do such a thing he said I was overreacting and that me "back dating" my divorce was illegal too. He didn't say anything else about it and simply dropped it. I don't really enjoy arguing so I didn't carry on with him about it. I made my father aware of the situation and have backed off. I am very hurt and dissapointed with this individual, he was very coniving and I naively thought the was "the one". But disturbingly so, I am still fascinated by him. I am going to get busy doing other things so I don't think about him or want to see him again. :'(

Emily
12-29-2006, 03:27 PM
When I told him it was illegal and why would he ask me to do such a thing he said I was overreacting and that me "back dating" my divorce was illegal too. He didn't say anything else about it and simply dropped it. I don't really enjoy arguing so I didn't carry on with him about it. I made my father aware of the situation and have backed off. I am very hurt and dissapointed with this individual, he was very coniving and I naively thought the was "the one". But disturbingly so, I am still fascinated by him. I am going to get busy doing other things so I don't think about him or want to see him again. :'(

I like how his manipualtive ass made you the bad guy in this scenario. I'm mean illegal gun crime and back dating divorce. I can see his point. ::)

So you didn't dump him. :-X

You seem like a sweet, pretty woman and want so badly to be loved. It's too bad that you don't feel better about yourself because you really could find love....but you're not going to find it with this guy. He's completely taking advatange of you and your insecurities.

Bella21
12-29-2006, 03:47 PM
I agree with Emily.

greenidlady1
12-29-2006, 03:48 PM
I like how his manipualtive ass made you the bad guy in this scenario. I'm mean illegal gun crime and back dating divorce. I can see his point. ::)

So you didn't dump him. :-X

You seem like a sweet, pretty woman and want so badly to be loved. It's too bad that you don't feel better about yourself because you really could find love....but you're not going to find it with this guy. He's completely taking advatange of you and your insecurities.

Thank you Emily:hug: Your intuitiveness is precise regarding my lack of confidence and courage. Thanks for your encouragement. Maybe I will start to have faith in myself and give myself what I need instead of seeking it out of others.

Tart
12-29-2006, 05:23 PM
Now this is going to sound harsh, but mostly because it is.

you know whats going on is wrong. you arent fucking stupid. However, you know as well ..that remaining with him is stupid as well.

yet you are going to stay.

And what I can say to that is. I dont feel a bit sorry for whatever goes on in that relationship. And the reason being is because you know better. You know right from wrong and you are chosing the "wrong".

you are making your own destiny with this one.

Anyone I have ever read on forums that seeks the help of others , only to turn around and go " okay thanks but i am not going to listen to you guys ". yet comes back time and time again for the same advice just in different ways.

Doesnt deserve the attention nor the time.

This isnt a personal attack to you. I dont know you or your life . Im just going off of what I think and feel and what i've read.

When people sob about their issues yet do nothing to ultimately resolve them, and continue posting the same ole tired ass stories over and over. They come off as attention whores and drama queens that just seek both of those things.

If you want a better life for yourself, ( which you should . ) You should start doing so. saying you know is and then going on to live in the same ole crappy ass situation makes a lot of people lose respect.

Or even see your cries for help as losing importance.

If you said " guys im leaving him, does anyone have a place I can stay for 2 weeks "

I bet you anything there would be someone here that would be willing to help. there are always ways out. its a matter of actually wanting them.

I will state the same obvious fact i've stated time and time again on other threads. you attract and have relationships with people that mirror you. You may not see it now, but its the truth. There is something about him that you relate to in yourself. And thus far he's not coming across as a standup person.

I would take a long hard look at yourself, and fully comprehend how much you are holding your own happiness and life back by remaining in a toxic and unhealthy relationship/lifestyle.

Why torture yourself and make yourself unhappy? because seriously darling he's not the one responsible for either of those. you are. Its your choice. And you are chosing to live a shitty ass life full of worry, regret and drama over having your own happiness ..and possibly in the future a meaningful and worth while relationship.

Best of luck to you. I hope you find it in yourself to quit playing victim and start being a survivor.

Obenta
12-30-2006, 03:45 AM
Now this is going to sound harsh, but mostly because it is.

you know whats going on is wrong. you arent fucking stupid. However, you know as well ..that remaining with him is stupid as well.

yet you are going to stay.

And what I can say to that is. I dont feel a bit sorry for whatever goes on in that relationship. And the reason being is because you know better. You know right from wrong and you are chosing the "wrong".

you are making your own destiny with this one.

Anyone I have ever read on forums that seeks the help of others , only to turn around and go " okay thanks but i am not going to listen to you guys ". yet comes back time and time again for the same advice just in different ways.

Doesnt deserve the attention nor the time.

This isnt a personal attack to you. I dont know you or your life . Im just going off of what I think and feel and what i've read.

When people sob about their issues yet do nothing to ultimately resolve them, and continue posting the same ole tired ass stories over and over. They come off as attention whores and drama queens that just seek both of those things.

If you want a better life for yourself, ( which you should . ) You should start doing so. saying you know is and then going on to live in the same ole crappy ass situation makes a lot of people lose respect.

Or even see your cries for help as losing importance.

If you said " guys im leaving him, does anyone have a place I can stay for 2 weeks "

I bet you anything there would be someone here that would be willing to help. there are always ways out. its a matter of actually wanting them.

I will state the same obvious fact i've stated time and time again on other threads. you attract and have relationships with people that mirror you. You may not see it now, but its the truth. There is something about him that you relate to in yourself. And thus far he's not coming across as a standup person.

I would take a long hard look at yourself, and fully comprehend how much you are holding your own happiness and life back by remaining in a toxic and unhealthy relationship/lifestyle.

Why torture yourself and make yourself unhappy? because seriously darling he's not the one responsible for either of those. you are. Its your choice. And you are chosing to live a shitty ass life full of worry, regret and drama over having your own happiness ..and possibly in the future a meaningful and worth while relationship.

Best of luck to you. I hope you find it in yourself to quit playing victim and start being a survivor.


Wow this post is so good it should be saved forever and stickied by itself somewhere so others can be pointed to it to read. Seriously!

What is said here applies to so many situations I see posted about!

*bows*

greenidlady1
12-30-2006, 10:33 AM
You are right Tart. I told him last night I thought we should stop seeing each other, he was pissed about it and then I left. He has called twice today and I haven't returned his calls. I have been told time and time again I deserve so much from a person but it's hard to find. But I think if I give myself what I deserve than another person can only be complimentary to me instead of essential thus making me less vunerable to hurt. I think my being needy has made me vunerable to some pretty shitty situations. So, I think I will put dating aside and give myself what I need. Unfornuately, in this world I think it's "sink or swim". And I better start swimming.