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Howie
01-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Anyone here ever try an ED drug? Went in for a physical and talked the Doctor out of a sample of Levitra. My wife was looking forward to one of those 4 hour erections. I don't think it had any effect on me at all. The only thing I noticed was the side effects. Next day I had a headache, back pains and was pretty much sick to my stomach.

Katrine
01-07-2007, 05:11 PM
Anyone here ever try an ED drug? Went in for a physical and talked the Doctor out of a sample of Levitra. My wife was looking forward to one of those 4 hour erections. I don't think it had any effect on me at all. The only thing I noticed was the side effects. Next day I had a headache, back pains and was pretty much sick to my stomach.

Doctors don't need to be "talked out" out of samples of e.d. drugs. The reps come in weekly and inundate docs with samples and incentives to sell.

What was your problem to begin with, if you don't mind me asking? Couldn't get it up at all, not all the way hard, came too fast, took too long, etc?? Different drugs help different aspects of e.d.

Have you ever asked your wife for prostate massage? That's very effective I hear.

Oh, and I've taken them before too, and it gave me a headache, simply doesn't work for women........

Howie
01-07-2007, 05:39 PM
What was your problem to begin with, if you don't mind me asking? Couldn't get it up at all, not all the way hard, came too fast, took too long, etc?? Different drugs help different aspects of e.d.

Blood pressure was a little high and he asked if I had any erection problems. My complaint was that getting the erection is no problem, but maintaining it sometimes is.

Prostate massage? You've got to be kidding me. Haven't gotten head for 15 years, I doubt if she'd be interested in sticking her finger up my ass.

jannisary
01-07-2007, 06:20 PM
I've tried ED drugs before sort of recreationally you might say. Only side effect I had from Levitra was a flushed face. Viagra gave me one hell of a headache, I won't ever take it again.

Never had a "four hour erection" and wouldn't want one, that would hurt after awhile I'm sure. For me it just made getting and keeping an erection very easy. Sometimes I could stay hard and keep going after coming but other times it just shortened the refractory period.

I_luv_dancers!
01-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Anyone here ever try an ED drug? Went in for a physical and talked the Doctor out of a sample of Levitra. My wife was looking forward to one of those 4 hour erections. I don't think it had any effect on me at all. The only thing I noticed was the side effects. Next day I had a headache, back pains and was pretty much sick to my stomach.

I have experience with Viagra. Works for me. Was having trouble with duration and occasionally with achieving. With V I've got wood for plenty of time for wifey to climax. In fact I can fuck her sore, then rub a few out afterwards.

Doc won't give me Cialis or Levitra due to one of my BP meds.

I've noticed a little headache with it, but really really mild. I hate to call it a headache at all, more like a sensation or pressure. No other side effects for me.

I don't always need it, but when I take Viagra it makes my dick so hard a cat couldn't scratch it. I get good wood for about 24 hours after taking it.

The drug won't make you hard automatically. You still need to be stimulated and aroused. ED drugs help to make it happen and maintain it.

Katrine: If a guy simply can't get wood, PM isn't going to help. It's very frustrating getting all hot and bothered - while no matter what you or your partner does, no wood :-[ . Trust me. With true ED nothing in the way of stimulation will do it. Oral, PM, manual, porn......VEERRY frustrating when it happens.


Oh, and I've taken them before too, and it gave me a headache, simply doesn't work for women........

I've read that some doctors have prescribed it for women and they have had success in increasing female responsiveness. YMMV.

Katrine
01-07-2007, 07:33 PM
Well if your wife hasn't given you a blow job in 15 years, do you think that has SOMETHING to do with it? Shit, I'd make that bitch get her head down there and do some bobbing!

FBR
01-08-2007, 07:54 PM
I take HBP meds but fortunately havent had ED problems. Im not what I was mmmm 20 years ago but the old pecker can still rise to the occasion. To be honest, Ive been intrigued by the advertised benefits of ED drugs and the thought of being a stallion once again but I am paranoid about humping on Miss D, collapsing unconscious from the exertion and then trying to explain it to Mrs FBR as Im laying in the emergengy room. Saying I was at a meeting at the RR probably wouldnt fly :O

FBR

yoda57us
01-09-2007, 06:26 AM
I take HBP meds but fortunately havent had ED problems. Im not what I was mmmm 20 years ago but the old pecker can still rise to the occasion. To be honest, Ive been intrigued by the advertised benefits of ED drugs and the thought of being a stallion once again but I am paranoid about humping on Miss D, collapsing unconscious from the exertion and then trying to explain it to Mrs FBR as Im laying in the emergengy room. Saying I was at a meeting at the RR probably wouldnt fly :O

FBR

I took the meds for about five years before I started having problems. I can still function fairly well without the V but it definitely adds to the experience and increases staying power....To be honest, I don't always use it at home but I wouldn't dream of shelling out three to six small on a hot woman without the little blue pill...

Howie
01-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I'm curious to know if any of the other brands are better or worse than the one I tried. Are they basically the same and can I expect the same side effects? I'd like to fuck like an 18 year old, and I'm mature enough to admit that it ain't going to happen without some help.

yoda57us
01-10-2007, 06:49 AM
I'm curious to know if any of the other brands are better or worse than the one I tried. Are they basically the same and can I expect the same side effects? I'd like to fuck like an 18 year old, and I'm mature enough to admit that it ain't going to happen without some help.

I've only been on the Viagra but I don't think they all work in the same way. Viagra is a short term med. You take it an hour or so before sex. I'm not sure how long it's supposed to last but I've been able to achieve "nail driving" results for up to about ten hours. You are not supposed to take it more than once in a 24 hour period. There are other drugs that supposedly give you up to 3 days to seal the deal. My doctor went with the Viagra as he said it would not cause any problems with my other meds.

Remember, free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it. I know you can get this stuff on the internet or from friends or whatever but I really don't recommend putting yourself on any ED med without a doctor's consultation and prescription. If you need it in the first place that means there are things going on inside your body that need to be attended to.

At six bucks or so a pop, I wouldn't waste a dosage on an 18 year old...I prefer older women who know what to do with a sixty minute erection }:D

xdamage
01-10-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm curious to know if any of the other brands are better or worse than the one I tried. Are they basically the same and can I expect the same side effects? I'd like to fuck like an 18 year old, and I'm mature enough to admit that it ain't going to happen without some help.

Another angle to consider. If your BP meds are having this side effect, you and your doctor might want to consider trying another type (although he may not want to do so if your BP is stable and this is the only side effect). They are several different families of BP meds, and they work very differently; they also have very different side effects (for example, I don't believe ED is a common side-effect of ACE inhibitors, but they have other side effects).

Howie
01-10-2007, 06:33 PM
I'm not on any meds, cause I don't have high BP. It was elevated during my checkup because the Doc was insisting on sticking his finger up my ass, much against my wishes. Told him I wanted to wait until after I turned 50, but he said he'd get a couple of 300lb nurses to come in and hold me down if I didn't submit. I finally agreed to be his bitch. I've been 120/80 ever since. I just wanted to try an ED drug to see what effect it would have on me.

Katrine
01-10-2007, 11:11 PM
Oh relax. The doctor was doing his job and looking out for your health. Waiting until 50 can be too late.

Well I've had boyfriends and customers use the drugs, and the hardon lasts too, long, can't get them to finish. All of my holes are done used up.

Howie, I think you just need a wet sloppy BBBJBNQNS

yoda57us
01-11-2007, 06:03 AM
I'm not on any meds, cause I don't have high BP. It was elevated during my checkup because the Doc was insisting on sticking his finger up my ass, much against my wishes. Told him I wanted to wait until after I turned 50, but he said he'd get a couple of 300lb nurses to come in and hold me down if I didn't submit. I finally agreed to be his bitch. I've been 120/80 ever since. I just wanted to try an ED drug to see what effect it would have on me.

Dude, I've been getting the finger up the butt treatment since I was 40. It's prostate cancer, it can kill you. Besides, he's up there for what? about 20 seconds? Relax.

Now, if you start to enjoy having a guy shove his finger up you butt then you may have something to worry about!

yoda57us
01-11-2007, 06:11 AM
Oh relax. The doctor was doing his job and looking out for your health. Waiting until 50 can be too late.

Well I've had boyfriends and customers use the drugs, and the hardon lasts too, long, can't get them to finish. All of my holes are done used up.

Howie, I think you just need a wet sloppy BBBJBNQNS

It is a pain sometimes but it's preferable to going semi limp in while inside of a woman...a real mood killer.:'(

It can take forever to finish but the feeling is pretty amazing... sometimes the guy has to lend a hand in these cases but it's all good. The two handed twisting hand job works well too...}:D

CarGuy
01-24-2007, 12:27 PM
From those experienced. .....

you take the pill....

an hour or so later, you will get some serious wood...."after" stimulation?

then after the deed is done....it is also easier to regain another erection to go at it shortly after?

I_luv_dancers!
01-24-2007, 08:02 PM
From those experienced. .....

you take the pill....

an hour or so later, you will get some serious wood...."after" stimulation?

then after the deed is done....it is also easier to regain another erection to go at it shortly after?

Not just yes, but hell yes! }:D

CarGuy
02-10-2007, 05:08 AM
**UPDATE**

Purely for research....I tested both Viagra and Cialis recently. I wanted to see what effect they had, as a trial run, not when I was expecting a happy ending.

First up...The blue pill...50mg Viagra tablet.

The night of my party, I popped one of these about 2 hours before the entertainment showed up. It says not to drink, but what the hell if I am going to die, might as well be with some wood.

Only 2 mild vodka drinks in system. About an hour into the pill...I notice the slight indigestion...mild
A little bit of "stuffy head"
About two hours in, and after the ATF showed up...I get the FLUSH face reaction.
During the night I did not notice much effect on my johnson. Maybe mixing even moderate alcohol interferes with the pill.
Fast forward to about 8-10 hours after taking the pill....Can we say HEADACHE! Ouch.

Didn't care for the little blue pill.

TEST 2 Ciallis..20mg pear shaped pill

This one is called the "party" drug. It is supposed to have a lingering effect which carries you through 1-3 days of activities.
I have a SC visit planned with a long time buddy so I figure...hmm..perfect controlled environment test. Take the pill...plenty of stimulation...etc.

This time I take the pill about 4 hours prior to my expected arrival at the SC.

After some minor research it says alcohol doesn't affect this medication. I don't drink much anyway but already it sounds better than the V pill.

Over the 4 hours after taking the pill and before my visit, I notice similar reactions from when I took the Viagra. Similar but way less in severity. The flush face was extremely mild, and slight indigestion.

The real test comes in the club...am I going to get a woody that doesn't go down? Not that I care in the club...anyone embarrassed by a stiff dick in a SC should probably not go to one.

We settle into VIP for my regular hour...two hour...three hour session of "therapy"

Finally a reaction that is positive and welcome!
I don't have a problem with getting it up, or finishing the job but a drug that assists the old johnson is always welcome.

My ATF can easily get me to stand at attention, but we go from periods of dancing to talking to her smoking a ciggy, to getting a shot etc.
The thing I noticed was that normally these interludes would interfere with my stiffness....NOT SO with the little pill. And it was certainly noticed by my girl. I think it made her feel better that she kept it up for the entire vip time.

No headache latter, the next day I could tell the drug was still effective.

Not cheap at $12 a shot, but it is worth it for the confidence factor...even if you do not suffer from true ED.

So the next test will be in a real world sex test.


My vote goes to Cialis by a long hard shot.

Katrine
02-12-2007, 12:14 PM
You used it at the club? Why, to impress your ATF? That's one of the lamest things I've ever heard in my life.

yoda57us
02-12-2007, 12:53 PM
While I'm sure the share holders at Pfizer and Lilly appreciate your patronage I can't really understand the benefit of using an ED drug at a strip club. I don't even take it when I go visit my "sure thing Brazilian extras girl". No dancer really cares how long you can stay hard as long as the cash is flowing.

I guess it's your money and your circulatory system but, if I where you, I'd wait until you arrive at a point in your life where you actually need the stuff. I don't see any sort of voluntary chemical dependancy as being a good thing.

CarGuy
02-12-2007, 01:11 PM
It was merely an experiment. I didn't do it to impress anybody...I don't go the SC looking for sex. The SC is a controlled enviroment...I guess i could have sat in front of my computer looking at nekkid chicks and reported that, however the SC visit was more fun. I don't need, it, but curiosity is never a bad thing.

Lame?? Whatever Kat...OK..it's about as lame as ........


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threlayer
02-12-2007, 02:26 PM
I used it for awhile to make it easier to get hard and stay that way. I crushed up a 100mg and took about 30-35mg per day, which would work for maybe two days each 'dose'. That was GF #1, a several years ago. She was OK but just really learning (not why we parted).

With my current gal of several years, I don't need anything, unless she tries to blow me around 3-5AM and then nothing helps much, probably just not my time of day. I still have some pills left over, expensive, you know.

mr_punk
02-15-2007, 07:16 PM
the funniest thing about the whole subject are guys who don't suffer from ED taking the drug. it's not porn . so, it's okay not to walk around locked, loaded and boning for four hours. but hey, if someone is going to do it. i just hope they pack plenty of lube.

threlayer
02-16-2007, 04:33 PM
walk around locked, loaded and boning for four hours
Seems to me it doesn't work that way. Just makes it easier to get hard when you are starting to get mentally excited, sort of like it was in your early to late twenties. At least it didn't for me and others I've heard reports about. Of course if you walk around playing "pocket pool", you will get a reaction.

FBR
02-16-2007, 09:09 PM
If the ED drugs would make me multi hmmm that would be something but if all it does is give a a boner that lasts for hours but the end result is only one happy ending after an eternity of waiting, no thanks.

FBR

mr_punk
02-17-2007, 07:11 AM
Seems to me it doesn't work that way. Just makes it easier to get hard when you are starting to get mentally excited, sort of like it was in your early to late twenties.or puberty. in any event, a pill making it easier to get hard isn't ED (ie: the inability to achieve or maintain an erection). it's a symptom of what all men suffer from past our sexual peak at age of 18. a slow and steady decline.

If the ED drugs would make me multi hmmm that would be something but if all it does is give a a boner that lasts for hours but the end result is only one happy ending after an eternity of waiting, no thanks.yeah, but i think a lot of young or healthy guys who don't actually have ED, take it with the idea of putting on some kind of impressive display of sexual prowess and stamina.

yoda57us
02-17-2007, 09:44 AM
or puberty. in any event, a pill making it easier to get hard isn't ED (ie: the inability to achieve or maintain an erection). it's a symptom of what all men suffer from past our sexual peak at age of 18. a slow and steady decline.
Viagra makes it easier to get AND maintain an erection. ED has many stages up to but not limited to the complete inability to get hard.


yeah, but i think a lot of young or healthy guys who don't actually have ED, take it with the idea of putting on some kind of impressive display of sexual prowess and stamina.
Agreed, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone who didn't need Viagra would take it just for show....or for"experimental purposes".

Katrine
02-17-2007, 11:35 PM
Agreed, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone who didn't need Viagra would take it just for show....or for"experimental purposes".

No shit!!! My pussy, ass, and mouth still feel twinges of pain when I think about my experience with viagra boy a few months ago. Asshole!

yoda57us
02-18-2007, 06:19 AM
No shit!!! My pussy, ass, and mouth still feel twinges of pain when I think about my experience with viagra boy a few months ago. Asshole!

OK, I get it, I'll half my dosage before we have our "share a hooker" experience.....

Casual Observer
02-18-2007, 01:29 PM
Aside from the fact that I'm a little younger than the target market, and admittedly in much better shape than most men that are my own age, the allure of ED drugs is lost on me. The fear of side effects would outweigh the benefits for me, but then again, I don't even like to take Advil for muscle pain or headaches.

I've accepted that my cock doesn't perform like it did when I was 19, but fortunately as a whole, my performance is much better then when I was 19, so I'm less reliant on sheer force of cock to do the job.

Katrine
02-18-2007, 02:15 PM
Remember boys, we don't really need to be jackhammered for an hour. That's porn, not reality.

yoda57us
02-18-2007, 02:58 PM
Remember boys, we don't really need to be jackhammered for an hour. That's porn, not reality.

Sadly (or maybe not!) for me, it will never be about jack-hammering:'(;D

FBR
02-18-2007, 09:31 PM
Remember boys, we don't really need to be jackhammered for an hour. That's porn, not reality.

Well, I like the concept but I get tired after about 30 seconds :O It sucks to be old.

FBR

yoda57us
02-19-2007, 11:08 AM
Well, I like the concept but I get tired after about 30 seconds :O It sucks to be old.

FBR

FBR. Lol, guys like us are the reason that some poor unsatisfied woman invented cowgirl...Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

xdamage
02-19-2007, 02:31 PM
20-25mins of slow rhythmic action is it for me. If that's not enough, fuck it, let her sleep with the duracell bunny.

yoda57us
02-19-2007, 05:27 PM
20-25mins of slow rhythmic action is it for me. If that's not enough, fuck it, let her sleep with the duracell bunny.

No doubt about it X, you're a giver....

FBR
02-19-2007, 06:53 PM
20-25mins of slow rhythmic action is it for me.


No doubt about it X, you're a giver....

X, you are a man amongst men for taking so much time out of your life.

Heres a typical RR with Miss D after we have disrobed, shes handed over the lotion bottle and shes lying face down on the bed.

A) After straddling her, draw a picture on her back using the lotion as the drawing medium. In the interest of fairness, the picture must be related to something we talked about during our meal beforehand. She gets two guesses. This is our foreplay.

elapsed time: 2 minutes

B) Destroy the picture by smearing the lotion down towards her lower back. Give her a brief but firm lower back massage. Apply additional lotion on her butt and work it in throughly making sure to work some in to her ass crack. Alternate between sliding the fingers up and down there with a knuckle massage on her butt cheeks. Watch carefully for audible or visible indications of her excitement and upon receipt concentrate on the ass crack. She pops.

elapsed time: 4 minutes

C) Apply more lotion on her upper back, shoulders and upper arms. Massage those areas with thumb pressue between the shoulder blades, finger massaging on the nape of the neck and full handed stroking of the upper arms. When signals are again received, apply addition lotion to the butt area, smoothing it in. Lying prostrate on her back, work the excess lotion from her upper arms down on to her lower arms and fingers. Massage each finger individually and hump while doing so. Make sure to be centrally positioned. After an efficient 10-15 humps she pops.

elapsed time: 3.5 minutes

Reverse position and face her feet. Apply lotion generously to the back of her thighs and calf muscles. Massage those areas. Work the excess lotion down onto her feet rubbing some into the heels and using the knuckles to massage the insteps. Lying prostrate again, give each toe a mini massage while humping. When the signals are once again received increase the humping tempo 20-30%. She pops.

elapsed time: 4 minutes

Reversing position again, apply the remaining lotion onto her entire ass area. The thicker the better. Lie on her back, again placing the equipment on her centerline. Hump gently at first for gradually increase the speed. Massage the lower arms and hands. To make it a bit more personal gently kiss her ear, neck and cheek. Whispering sweet nothings is optional and mood dependent. When her legs fold up, lock legs with her. She pops. I pop. If simultaneous, a bonus.

elapsed time: 2 minutes

Total elapsed time: 15.5 minutes with no ED drugs and with due consideration for my blood pressure issues. I like efficiency in all aspects of my life :)

FBR

Jenny
02-19-2007, 07:25 PM
Dude.
That was...
just...
so MUCH information.

I feel a little uncomfortable even looking at you right now.

FBR
02-19-2007, 07:48 PM
Dude.
That was...
just...
so MUCH information.

I feel a little uncomfortable even looking at you right now.

I mean, based on your crisp writing style and overall professional and efficient personna, I assumed you would have given me a thumbs up or a least a conspiratorial wink. X went on about 20-25 minutes. I was just demostrating that a mere 15.5 minutes is ample. And I did kiss her on the neck and nibble on her ear.

FBR

Jenny
02-19-2007, 08:26 PM
I certainly salute your time efficiency; I'm just a little disconcerted by the minute detailing is all. Although, if we're critiquing your performance...

FBR
02-19-2007, 09:13 PM
I certainly salute your time efficiency; I'm just a little disconcerted by the minute detailing is all. Although, if we're critiquing your performance...

Ive been in sales most of my career but I do love accounting. There is something spirtual and magical about numbers.

Id be interested in the critique. From my pov a 4:1 ratio her pop/me pop seems reasonable but upon reflection I probably was being a bit too controlling and probably prevented her from achieving even greater pleasure.

FBR

xdamage
02-19-2007, 10:36 PM
Well, I wish it was simply a matter of being a giver. Unfortunately no. Little-X takes that long to do his thing. What can I say, he is a slacker.

Katrine
02-20-2007, 01:34 AM
20-25mins of slow rhythmic action is it for me.

So are we talking about sex, or modern interpretive dance? :P Some pounding is important too! Damn women, can never please 'em!

yoda57us
02-20-2007, 07:48 AM
So are we talking about sex, or modern interpretive dance? :P Some pounding is important too! Damn women, can never please 'em!

OK, I'm not a math guy so I'm not going to provide an FBR-like breakdown of my current OTC sessions. Let's just say it's two or so fun-filled hours of rubbing, licking, nibbling (a big crowd pleaser), sucking, stroking and pounding(this is where the V comes in handy)...and leave it at that...FWIW, the fav is a math chic and she seems fairly happy with the current breakdown of activities...yeah, yeah, the five or so large per session certainly helps...;)

xdamage
02-21-2007, 07:04 AM
Damn women, can never please 'em!

True! But for some strange reason this is part of the attraction. ;)