View Full Version : Major Guy Don'ts
toomuchhomeworklately
02-18-2007, 09:48 AM
This has been said before but PLEASE don't try to kiss me or lick/suck/etc my nipples. Why are some guys so adamant on attempting these things? I've asked pushy customers, "If I was the type of girl that kissed her customers, why would you Want to kiss me?" "Well, whats-her-name let me kiss her last night." Yeah, and I'm sure you weren't the first or last she played tonsil hockey with last night. Since when do guys not mind sloppy seconds? Ick.
pheno
02-18-2007, 11:32 AM
After reading the above thread and all the anti-women customer posts, all I can say is damn, I'm sorry.
Not sure if this fits, but it's a guy/club thing...
Guys, please, let me enjoy my dances in peace. I'm there for the girls, not part of the entertainment. (Yes, I'm actually one of those hot femme lesbians.) Don't touch my hair or any part of me that you can reach from your chair. Don't make comments to either me or the dancer. Don't put your arm around me when I'm tipping the stage dancer.
I know guys are about the girl/girl thing... but damn that's rude and really creepy. I don't have problems with men, just idiots.
cameronfl
02-18-2007, 06:24 PM
seriously... when a non-paying customer gets a free grope, my blood absolutely boils. i want to just grab their sneaky disgusting little hand and break their fingers off!!!
Yeah...I've done that. Not exactly non-paying, but might as well have been. During a $10 table (read..air) dance a guy kept trying to grab my crotch. I told him once to stop, the second time I told him I would break his finger if he did it again(the bouncers at this particular club were useless) the third time he made a grab I bent his finger back until I heard it snap. He deserved it...he got TWO warnings...in the "real" world..thats attempted rape..or at least sexual assault.
And no, I didnt get in trouble for it.
jaizaine
02-18-2007, 06:30 PM
n the "real" world..thats attempted rape..or at least sexual assault.
Yes it is. Im not sure about in the US but in Australia digital penetration meets the definition of rape and attempted penetration is attempted rape.
It should apply to strip clubs as we are in a far more vulnerable position to be assaulted.
UtahMike
02-18-2007, 08:39 PM
Yeah...I've done that. Not exactly non-paying, but might as well have been. During a $10 table (read..air) dance a guy kept trying to grab my crotch. I told him once to stop, the second time I told him I would break his finger if he did it again(the bouncers at this particular club were useless) the third time he made a grab I bent his finger back until I heard it snap. He deserved it...he got TWO warnings...in the "real" world..thats attempted rape..or at least sexual assault.
And no, I didnt get in trouble for it.
Just out of curiosity--did he pay the $10 before or after you broke his finger?
cameronfl
02-18-2007, 08:42 PM
Just out of curiosity--did he pay the $10 before or after you broke his finger?
LOL!! Before! Other days I would have just walked away since I had already been paid...but this was a last straw kind of deal that day and i snapped. Doesnt mean he didnt deserve it though!
Kaviyd
03-02-2007, 12:46 AM
I recall seeing a mention of spanking a dancer's ass as a serious no-no but -- spanking a dancer's ass is not something that I have any particular desire to do, but some dancers of my acquaintance have asked me to do just that, so I complied. Curiously, these have turned out to be the exact same dancers who showed the most evidence of being turned on during my dances with them. What is up with that?
BrianG
03-25-2007, 06:54 PM
I'm a little confused. What kind of pants are considered acceptable? I wear Dockers-type pants because I've read that blue jeans are rough on dancers' skin. Am I the sleazy bad customer? :(
I'm glad this older thread came back up. It was informative and fun to read. I bet this one hasn't been mentioned yet. While on vacation in Wisconsin I went to a full nude bar. Now it was a little dark in there but while doing the leg splits for this really old guy he pulled out a pin light and shined it right on her crotch. He was then told to leave. I guess freaks come in all ages.
I do have a question and I hope it gets seen on this thread. My regular club closed so I went to a new place. It's a big change going from a pastie bar to a nude, full contact, grinding allowed club. I apologise for being graphic with this question, but if the dancer is on you thrusting and grinding, and you thrust back, is that what you are talking about when he is humping on you?
toomuchhomeworklately
03-26-2007, 12:57 AM
I'm a little confused. What kind of pants are considered acceptable? I wear Dockers-type pants because I've read that blue jeans are rough on dancers' skin. Am I the sleazy bad customer? :(
Dockers are perfect. What everyone is complaining about are those super thin nylon jogging-type pants. A lot of them have those snaps on the side & they're about as thick as a paper towel. I don't need to know THAT much about what's going on down there...
thirdworldgigolo
11-28-2007, 06:25 PM
^^^ Indeed, wearing shorts at all.
8. Needy or clingy.
9. Worrying endlessly about whether the dancer "really likes you" or "is all about the money."
10. Overanalyzing the experience to try and figure out what the dancer "really meant."
I have to confess, I'm the no.9 and 10 guy. Are they that bad?
zxcire
11-28-2007, 06:33 PM
I have to confess, I'm the no.9 and 10 guy. Are they that bad?
Yes. Yes they are. :)
SundayMorning
11-28-2007, 10:48 PM
I have to confess, I'm the no.9 and 10 guy. Are they that bad?
Just by asking the question, you're proving how much a #10 you are. It's business. Keep it businesslike and everyone's happy.
MinahSky
11-28-2007, 11:12 PM
If you are super big, TIP, you fat b*stard. Not everyone can dance 20 songs for you and the amount of the songs alone WILL NOT CUT IT.
I had a REALLY BIG customer who used to come in once a week and get like 25 dances, 5 at a time (he had to take a break and breathe in between, no joke). And the next day my thighs would feel like I just did the Boston Marathon. I was glad to get the dances, but in all reality between the girls who WOULD dance for him and the girls who COULD dance for him, he wouldn't have anyone to dance for him if I didn't.
I wasn't in one night and a coworker of mine tried to dance for him....HER words, not mine! She was short and she told me she got worn out after 2 songs...I had the legs and the stamina to work around each one of his 400 pounds for 20 minutes at a time.
But seriously...if you are hard to dance for, tip the girl. I mean, it takes a lot for you to sit there for multiple songs telling us to move our legs here, put our *ss there, etc without us putting our heel through your face. You know when it's hard for you to find someone to dance for you if you've got unique tastes or requests. Tip the girl who caters to it.
buffie06
11-29-2007, 04:43 AM
I HATE when I sit on someones lap(its rare that i do) and they try to pull both my legs across their lap, it is not comfortable and I don't enjoy being manhandled. I also extremely dislike customers who constantly touch at my face or play with my hair. I am so oc about my hair and they like to put their hands up on the back of my head for some reason and "massage" my head. I AM NOT A DOG!!
pookie
11-29-2007, 06:26 AM
pppppst... this thread is not new
thirdworldgigolo
11-29-2007, 10:51 AM
Just by asking the question, you're proving how much a #10 you are. It's business. Keep it businesslike and everyone's happy.
WOW, that hurts.:'(
zxcire
11-29-2007, 10:53 AM
WOW, that hurts.:'(
It shouldn't.
Man you really are #10!!!:P
gingerlee
11-29-2007, 11:25 AM
Man you really are #10!!!:P
:rotfl: :rotfl: Sorry, that's fuckin' funny!
cameron_keys
11-29-2007, 12:29 PM
Whats withthe old thread revivals lately? (and I agree with ginger...that IS really funny!)
SundayMorning
11-29-2007, 12:56 PM
I think this one had pretty good info, always useful for customers to keep in mind. As was just demonstrated.
doc-catfish
11-29-2007, 02:31 PM
Well, as long as this as been bumped up, we might as well have some fun with it.
WOW, that hurts.:'(
Oh, no my friend. this (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62631) hurts, not to mention this (http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85245). And those guys DID keep it businesslike.
Flint Beastwood
11-29-2007, 04:47 PM
Is it cool that people draw in the bar? I've always wondered if it would be ok. Just a small sketchbook. Or is that a bad idea???
zxcire
11-29-2007, 04:49 PM
Is it cool that people draw in the bar? I've always wondered if it would be ok. Just a small sketchbook. Or is that a bad idea???
Well, what are you drawing? If it's nakie women, no, that's not cool at all.
If you're just sketching like trees and a little house, I see no problem, but really no reason.
cameron_keys
11-29-2007, 05:57 PM
Is it cool that people draw in the bar? I've always wondered if it would be ok. Just a small sketchbook. Or is that a bad idea???
Why would you draw in a strip club? If you are drawing the girls...thats creepy. If you are just drawing random things...wierd, but acceptable
lestat1
11-29-2007, 06:06 PM
How odd. When I took basic drawing in college, we had nude models come in, since that's such a classic form of art. Way different context, I know, but it seems frugal/cheap to me, as opposed to creepy. As in, instead of hiring a live model for probably a decent bit of money, he's just drawing the dancers at cover charge + tip pricing. Assuming he's an artist, that is.
zxcire
11-29-2007, 06:29 PM
How odd. When I took basic drawing in college, we had nude models come in, since that's such a classic form of art. Way different context, I know, but it seems frugal/cheap to me, as opposed to creepy. As in, instead of hiring a live model for probably a decent bit of money, he's just drawing the dancers at cover charge + tip pricing. Assuming he's an artist, that is.
Well no it's not creepy to draw a nude model posing in an art class.
It is creepy to draw nude or mostly nude dancers in a strip club.
It's the context.
Flint Beastwood
11-29-2007, 06:46 PM
haha gotcha. Leave the drawing stuff at home. It's just whenever I go to the club it's with a large group of friends and we're all sort of cartoon people. I'm not talking lifedrawing or anything like that. Just us having fun.
iambonbon05
11-29-2007, 07:51 PM
I don't know if this has been said, but please don't sniff/blow on my cooch. It's strange.
It's a good idea to put your beer where I won't accidentally knock it down.
DON'T say you'll "get a dance later" and then disappear. Just grow some balls and say NO (nicely) so I don't wast time on you.
Don't get up and leave in the middle of my set, or if you have to at least leave a couple bucks behind.
And it's kind of rude to just sit there and text message at the rack, although I guess if you were tipping well I guess I wouldn't care. We ARE performing, and it's rude.
Andygirl
11-29-2007, 09:32 PM
I know this is an exaggerated wish list, but some of y'all are really particular about what the guys do or don't do during a dance. As long as they aren't touching where they were told not to, not wearing silky pants, and non-aggressive, I am pretty much ok with whatever. I expect them to get hard ons, want to smell my hair, move around under me, make sexual comments, etc.
They are paying for the dance and I think they're entitled to enjoy it however they want, as long as they aren't doing anything to physically bother me. I can deal with dirty talk and a lot of other weird things. Don't get me wrong, I don't love it, but that's why I get paid as well as I do. Money can really raise my tolerance for socially awkward weirdos.;D
This does remind me of a guy I danced for the other night. He got 20 dances at $20 a pop, so I put up with it, but the entire session was like a wrestling match. He wanted to control the dance by pulling on my arms and shoulders and he'd always want to have his hands on top of me rather than me having my hands above his, if that makes any sense. He wasn't trying to get me to do anything perverted, but he was just really intense with the pulling on me. Had he not been a big spender I probably would have cut the dances short because it was absolutely exhausting to dance for him.
UtahMike
11-30-2007, 07:52 PM
Why would you draw in a strip club? If you are drawing the girls...thats creepy. If you are just drawing random things...wierd, but acceptable
There was this SC up in Boise that found a loophole in the law. Nudity was OK if the nude woman was posing for an artist.
So, two days a week, there was no dancing, just posing. Guys would pay the cover and receive a sketch book and a pencil. They then would pay their model to do a series of poses for them as they sketched them.
The city fathers found some way to shut that down. I think they made it illegal to serve liquor and hold an art class in the same room.
Morgan_TX
12-05-2007, 12:27 PM
I have to add in a few of mine:
1: I'll sometimes turn around and grind, facing away from the customer. You want to know my #1 pet peeve? When I stand up and make that turn, and the customer tries to put his hand over his crotch. If I'm not paying attention, I sit back down and get wiggly fingers trying to get at me. FUCKER! (Then if they're real assholes they immediately grab me around the waist and hold me there, trying to keep me from moving.) I swear to God, the next time this happens, I'm going to break a fucking wrist.
2: "The Octopus". If I get a grabby customer, I'll usually warn him AND adjust my dance to where he doesn't have access to the stuff he's looking for. And sometimes, that's fucking difficult, because I end up having to sit for over half the damn song with my ass touching him, my legs together, and my arm over my boobs (which gets uncomfy REALLY quick). But look--if you go to touch a girl and she immediately changes position (thus denying you the easy access to whatever you were trying to touch), DON'T keep trying to get it, or trying to get something else. Dickwad! I've had a few customers that were like octopuses--you start wondering how many freaking hands they have.
I guess the basic premise here is simply this: Keep your mother-fucking hands to yourself. I don't need you to try to finger me, and I don't need you to try to squeeze my boobs until they pop. These are real, honey, and the implants aren't going to pop out if you squeeze hard enough, so quit trying!
ice109
12-31-2007, 01:03 AM
Why would you draw in a strip club? If you are drawing the girls...thats creepy. If you are just drawing random things...wierd, but acceptable
why is that creepy? because he's going to go home and jerk off to the picture he just drew of you? do you know what kind of women traditionally are painted/drawn/recreated naked? i'm talking about venus de milo/aphrodite here. it just seems odd to me considering all that i've read here in this thread and how gentle many of you expect your customers to be that something as reserved and even exultant as getting drawn would be creepy.
i mean like if i used you as a model for this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Botticelli_Venus.jpg
would you be upset?
britt244
12-31-2007, 01:09 AM
^ it's creepy because photos arent allowed so why should a drawing of me be? ESPECIALLY without permission.
ice109
12-31-2007, 01:14 AM
^ it's creepy because photos arent allowed so why should a drawing of me be? ESPECIALLY without permission.
i think there's a difference between an effortless photo and a work of art though. i mean really do you think he's going to get off to it? sell it to playboy art section?
britt244
12-31-2007, 01:18 AM
^ i don't care WHAT he does with it. i don't want pictures taken of me, nor do i want drawings made. you dont know where those things end up, when it might bite you in the ass, or hey, maybe i just don't want it done and if a dude were ever to not listen to that, he'd be out the door.
doc-catfish
12-31-2007, 08:34 AM
why is that creepy? because he's going to go home and jerk off to the picture he just drew of you? do you know what kind of women traditionally are painted/drawn/recreated naked? i'm talking about venus de milo/aphrodite here. it just seems odd to me considering all that i've read here in this thread and how gentle many of you expect your customers to be that something as reserved and even exultant as getting drawn would be creepy.
Oh terrific, we have an artiste in the house. ::)
Its not the act of drawing that's creepy. Its a privacy and consent issue, not to mention a matter of time, place and manner. Note: Strippers are not gyrating their T&A on stage so you can make artistic representations of them. Strip clubs are not art class. If you want to draw naked women, they have models available who specifically do that sort of thing. Who knows, some strippers might not mind posing for you (for a fee of course), but it will in all likelihood be taking place off the premises.
i think there's a difference between an effortless photo and a work of art though. i mean really do you think he's going to get off to it? sell it to playboy art section?
Damn there Michaelangelo, is your skull that thick? Why do you think someone who never gave you consent to draw them in the first place would give a shit about how much effort it took.
:loco:
ice109
12-31-2007, 04:51 PM
Oh terrific, we have an artiste in the house. ::)
Its not the act of drawing that's creepy. Its a privacy and consent issue, not to mention a matter of time, place and manner. Note: Strippers are not gyrating their T&A on stage so you can make artistic representations of them. Strip clubs are not art class. If you want to draw naked women, they have models available who specifically do that sort of thing. Who knows, some strippers might not mind posing for you (for a fee of course), but it will in all likelihood be taking place off the premises.
Damn there Michaelangelo, is your skull that thick? Why do you think someone who never gave you consent to draw them in the first place would give a shit about how much effort it took.
:loco:
::) and it's actually botticelli
Skywalker
12-31-2007, 07:43 PM
I know this isn't the same thing, but my brother is an artist who sketches wherever he goes. I have attended a few outdoor concerts with him where he ended up surrounded by women begging him to draw them. (I don't think he ever took...advantage...of the possibilities) I can see the comparison to the photo feeling, and you are naked, so you're all obviousy within your rights to be pissed, or request compensation, but my brother doesn't ask to sketch anyone. He's sitting there, sees someone interesting, and goes at it. Nobody that I've ever seen didn't take it as a compliment. Of course, while he could easily sell his drawings at concerts, instead he gives the model the drawing (if they request it) as a form of thanks for him being able to draw them (and he's good)