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sasee
11-22-2012, 12:58 AM
When you are doing lots of dances for a customer, always get your money up front or after every few dances.
Just remember to get your money either up front or after each couple of dances.

If the dances are $10 it helps to say we are at $30 now do you want to keep going. I always hold up my fingers for the number of songs that it will be if he wants another and say do you want to keep it going? That way he can't pretend like he did not know. Always let the guys know how much the dances are up front so they will not choose you as their target to rip off. Always tell a bouncer about a custy who trys to get out of paying because he will keep ripping off other girls until you do and other guys will hear about it and do the same. Never just say he will get his karma. You make sure he gets it immediately.

sasee
11-22-2012, 01:21 AM
We can not stress enough how important being sober is with this job, you will save yourself SO MANY mistakes that you WILL regret later in life.
***Dont sacrifice your MORALS, EVER!!! You will go much further in this business if you can sleep at night knowing you stuck to your guns on your rules and YOUR body***

***IF YOU CAN'T DO THE JOB SOBER, YOU CAN'T DO THE JOB!***

Being a dancer does NOT make you a bad person, hold your head high, do this the right way, and you will go far.
On the other hand, being a stupid crazy druggie whore stripper is a problem, and a DANGEROUS one. Most dancers are loving people wanting love and acceptance, unfortunately the influences in the business are generally negative and you have to have a support group to get through it. I think we are like that for each other on here :)
This is like group therapy and knowledge of psychology is very important. But it takes more than knowledge. Reaching out to others who understand is a very big deal. We can learn from each other.

sasee
11-22-2012, 08:14 PM
This is from an inactive thread "The pole is your friend, but don't rely only on the pole, because the customer are seated by the edge of the stage. If you can do pole tricks that's a great advantage, but don't give it all of your attention because its not the one giving you money." My business license says eRotic entertainer not eXotic dancer. I see so many girls who seem angry that the pole is not a customer because they remember when they USED to make money off of customers who watched their pole dance routines. They really are talented dancers who would make great physical fitness instructors or dance instructors. My friend who does not dance anymore but used to work in the late 90's and early 2000's, said that really high end gentlemens clubs did not have poles. She made a lot of $$ and bought her own house by SELLING lap dances and vip and just acting sexy on stage aka eRotic ENTERTAINMENT.

SweetJulia
03-27-2013, 05:28 AM
Wanted to bump this and add my tips, sorry if they have been mentioned before:
1-Lock your car and never tell customers which car in the parking lot is yours.
2-Don't get wasted at work. At best, you'll act like an idiot and pass out. At worst, you may just break your front tooth with a glass and get a 2K cap(someone I know).
3-Only use burner phones with customers and never share any personal info. with customers.
4-Watch your drink. Never leave it.
5-If possible, park in the front and encourage other employees to do the same. It makes the club look busier and gives you strength in numbers.
6-Never stop at any business within a mile of your club coming to or leaving from work.
7-Take different ways to get home and notice when a car has been behind you too long.

I may come up with more tips :)

AmyLynne
04-20-2013, 05:41 PM
never trust customers. they are only income!

never trust other dancers

know your surroundings

have fun! make money!

ChunkyDunk
04-27-2013, 12:06 AM
when confronted by an attacker or a customer who just plain creeps you out, KEEP EYE CONTACT. do not look afraid. if you look calm, you'll actually lessen your chance of being attacked.

if you're walking to your car, even if you're with a bouncer, if you see someone in the parking lot looking at you, look right back at him and let him notice you watching him. a guy won't try to sneak up on you if he knows you're aware that he's there. don't glare or give anyone the "don't fuck with me" look though, they'll take it as a challenge.



Haven't started on this exciting new career yet but I'll be damn sure to read everything I possibly can before I do. Thanx so much for this thread y'all. I love what you said about being and calm and STARING back. I say go one step further though. If you see a creeper watching you...especially if the bouncer is with you, draw attention to him by giving him a "polite" and LOUDER than necessary shoutout lol. Something as simple as "Hey hope you enjoyed your night, have a safe ride home." or "Were you waiting for someone?" while smiling showing all of your pearly whites ;D to let his creepy ass KNOW that you see him and everyone else sees him to. That should send him home with his tail behind his legs :P


ETA: Even though screaming for help is a given.. I heard that its way more effective to scream fire. No one wants to help you fight off a psychotic killer but everyone wants to save there ass from a 3rd degree burn.

aj4friends
10-15-2013, 03:32 AM
Very useful tips here..... I woman I though was my friend accused me of taking money out of her purse when I held it for a while as she got the bags out of her car.... To settle it somehow I ended up paying something close to $ 500 to her or else she had called her boyfriend and was threatening to hit me.....

Jasmine.Doll
10-15-2013, 04:55 AM
Don't be a biatch. Especially not your fellow strippers. Don't go apeshit if someone plays your song. Don't talk shit about the other girls. Not turn into the Hulk if someone uses your brush without asking. "MY BRUSH!! YOU TOUCH? I SMASH FACE!"

Play nice. Whenever I go to a new club, I make it my personal mission to get the craziest hoe there on my good side. This is my preemptive strike against drama and its very effective. I'm sweet and humble to the girls. I go out of my way to not step on toes, avoid people's die hard regs and try to "seduce" the girls as much as I do the custies. This strategy has saved my ass more times than I can count. When a guy kicked me in the stomach and ran away with my purse, 3 of those most hood chicks at my club (who don't like 99% of the other girls) chased that dude to the parking lot, whacked him over the head and got my $ back for me. On my first night at a new club in Vegas, a girl I'd complimented and purchased an outfit from earlier, removed a drink from my hand. She said the guy who bought it for me had roofied a girl the last time he came in.

And besides safety issues, I make more $ when the girls like me. They chat me up to customers, bring me into groups for dances, etc. They encourage guys to tip my stages. Plus, just having them around me, makes me look fun and friendly to the custies, I think.

I do everything I can to keep my girls happy. I listen to their issues without judgement. I remember their kids B-days with little gifts. I bring food, all the time. I watch for guys who try to take their photos on stage. I let them borrow my clothes. I intervene when a guy is being a d-bag. I once cracked a chair over a dudes head after he'd forced a wasted girl into a broom closet and was trying to rape her. I provide 1st aid and amature medical advice... I hold peoples hair when they puke. I find community resources for whatever the ladies need. And most importantly, I really do care about the girls I work with.

I don't invite them for Christmas with my family. I'm careful to keep appropriate stripper/real life boundaries. But having good relationships with the other girls makes stripper safer, more profitable and more fun.

CreoleGoddess
11-12-2013, 12:41 AM
so ummm what do non-drivers or people without cars do?

That's what I'm trying to figure out...

CreoleGoddess
11-12-2013, 01:14 AM
And does anybody actually have a good time doing this??

Ladies?
I do. But I didn't start doing this till I was "older" (read not college age) and I had already had my share of challenges and learned a lot about keeping myself safe before I started this. I also love to dance. period. So yes I have fun. But I also know I need to be safe. So don't be scared. Just be willing to truly get to know yourself. Because once you start doing this you will be forced to "evaluate your place in the universe".

My advice on that... just remember we are all the center of the universe and that has scientifically been proven. So don't let anyone tell you different.

KikiGem
02-10-2014, 11:08 AM
1) Protect your stuff. I have a small purse that I carry with me EVERYWHERE at all times. I put my keys, my medications, and my cash in it and when it's time for me to dance, I bring it to the stage with me. We have cameras in our dressing room so if someone stole my clothes she couldn't get away with it, but I don't risk having my truly important things get stolen.

2) We don't have bouncers at my club, so walking to my car is.. not fun. I keep my keys in hand, so in case anyone approaches me I can swipe them across the face with my keys. Invest in mace, too. And park in front of the club so you don't have to walk far.

3) Be vigilant! At all times. Keep an eye out for who is entering and leaving the club, especially when its your time to leave. Especially note anyone who was creepy with you, or you got bad vibes from. I've learned my instincts are usually right and if not, I have nothing to lose by being suspicious anyway.

4) Don't step on the dancers toes. You never know who is looking for any reason to go off on somebody or worse. If you've done something to piss someone off, no matter how insignificant the 'offence' may be, just apologize. Listen to them, make them feel heard, and express remorse. Arguing is futile, especially if you are physically smaller and weaker than most people like I am. This doesn't make you a wimp; it makes you a professional and an adult.

mia_noxx
03-13-2014, 05:03 PM
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Bespoke
05-19-2014, 07:53 AM
DON'T EVER TAKE ANY PICTURES IN THE CLUB, EVER!! This newbie faux-pas almost cost me my job in a well-known Houston club. One of the guys I was sitting with had a camera and asked me to take a picture of him and the rest of his group. I didn't think anything about it until a senior dancer (who was also with the group) ran off and tattled on me to the floor manager. I got my butt chewed out and then had to pull my sad self together to go on stage. Not a fun night!

Hustler Kelly
05-23-2014, 01:52 AM
Great tips!

kirakonstantin
06-16-2014, 12:40 AM
1. Do not, under any circumstances, carry a weapon that you do not know how to use. Ever. Pepper spray can easily be taken from you and used against you. Don't brandish it unless you intend to use it right that moment and use it wisely. If you carry a firearm or a knife, do what they teach you in every gun safety class about what to point your weapon at and what to do with it after you've brandished it. If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't carry a gun until you do. The talk about shooting in kneecaps... no. Bad idea.

2. Never, ever talk about how much you make dancing with other dancers. It's none of their damn business and it'll just cause problems. My best friend and I will talk about it OTC. ITC we only speak in general terms, lest someone over hear it. Similarly, my personal info is nobodys business. Nobody knows where I live, I have multiple fake names and everyone knows that I'm lying about everything ITC. Also, mind your own business. Keep your head down and don't get involved in other people's lives. The less you know, the better off you are.

3. You do not live alone, even if you do. You live with friends, family, roommates. People who will immediately miss you if you dont come home. Psychos like girls who won't be missed right away, because it makes it harder for law enforcement to investigate.

4. Conduct yourself with dignity and class. Acting trashy will let people know that they can treat you like trash. Also, you are who you chill with. If you know a dancer who's a junkie, extras girl, thief... stay away from her. If you know or suspect that certain customers are dealing drugs, stay away from them. People will just assume that you're shifty if you hang out with shifty people.

5. I personally do not eat or drink anything with custys or dancers. I eat in a back corner of the club and, when I get a soda from the bar, I finish it immediately. It's really easy to have your food or drink drugged or poisoned.

6. Know where your local police station or fire station is. If you feel scared or are afraid that you're being followed, drive there and honk your horn in the parking lot. If you're far away or feel like you're in immediate danger, drive like an idiot. Speed, drive erratically, flash your lights... attract as much attention as you can. At that point, you want to get pulled over.

7. Find somebody that you trust and check in with them. Call when you leave work and again when you get home. Have a plan in place. If im not home by 3 am, my mom will call me. If I don't answer and don't call back in 15 minutes, she will call the police and report me as missing. The faster law enforcement gets involved, the more likely you will be found alive.

8. Be very upfront about rules and limits with every customer, even if they seem like they know what to expect or are regulars. For all you know, the last dancer they got a dance from let him get away with a lot more than you want to allow. By setting clear boundaries, you're letting customers know that you're in control and avoids the "I didn't know" crap. Stick to your limits with every customer very time.

9. Invest in health and disability insurance. For a very small monthly premium, you can save yourself from financial ruin if you're injured and can't work. Our bodies are our stock in trade and every dancer needs to protect her health and well-being. Get checkups, establish care with a doctor you can trust and be honest about your occupation with and keep on top of your physical and emotional health.

10. Don't be afraid to ask for help. This is an extremely hard job and it will take an emotional toll on even the most hardened veteran. Things will happen, no matter how careful you are. If you don't know where to turn for help, post here and someone will point you in the right direction.

Aniela
06-24-2014, 01:47 PM
6. Know where your local police station or fire station is. If you feel scared or are afraid that you're being followed, drive there and honk your horn in the parking lot. If you're far away or feel like you're in immediate danger, drive like an idiot. Speed, drive erratically, flash your lights... attract as much attention as you can. At that point, you want to get pulled over.

I agree wholly w/ everything except for this ^^^^. The part abt driving erratically, specifically.

It IS important to be aware of sm1 who may be tailing you -- I have had it happen myself & it can be fking scary. The problem w/ driving erratically is, esp if you are paying more attention to the car behind you than to where you are going, you could end up lost in a bad neighbourhood. You could hit a curb, drift off the road, or sm animal picks This Damn Moment to dart in front of you & you end up in a bad enough accident to disable your vehicle.

Remember, as long as you are in your car, you are safe. If you are that certain of being in immediate danger, call the police. Keep a cell phone on you & always have a working car charger available.

B4 leaving for work that day, add a little gas to your tank. Pilots are required to maintain a 45-min reserve of fuel in case of emergency, mainly if smtg comes up & they have to divert to sm where other than the planned airport. I took this requirement to heart when I started dancing, & in 5 yrs needed it twice.

Be mindful of other cars if you catch a red light -- you do not want to get boxed in. Re: pulling into a lit parking lot -- find a gas station or ANYWHERE lit, even if there is apparently no attendants, go to the middle of the lot where the following vehicle can't trap you, & stop only long enough to take down their plate number. Then jet back onto the road & call the police if you haven't already.

Also, don't know if sm1 else mentioned it already, but check under your car b4 leaving the club. Not just for the possibility of a creep waiting under there, but for anything left under the tyre. One club I worked at, had to do this every single nite bc customers would leave glass bottles under my tyres (club was byob & they would often drink in the parking lot as well). You don't want to roll over any sharp debris if you can help it, then lose a tyre at the worst possible time.

CuriousSeeker
06-25-2014, 01:09 AM
you are who you chill with. If you know a dancer who's a junkie, extras girl, thief... stay away from her.

Cannot emphasize this enough, particularly on the stealing part, bc it will easily be assumed you are also sticky-fingered, which means it will be easy enough for someone (oooooo, let's say a suspicious house ma, a dancer having a bad night, or a rejected, drunk customer) to blame you for lost goods or money if you are connected with someone who might "borrow" things or help herself to her "tips."

Have a disability fund. Start saving right away - seriously, you don't need those designer jeans and shades right away. You need 6 months of rent, groceries and meds ready to go (I use CDs for this that I can break into easily with a low penalty).

I buy the best health insurance available, and I push myself to work like a freak so that I can pay off all the premiums at once and have my mind at rest. That way, if I'm hurt, I have access to the very stuff I need most: the best medical care to get back on the horse faster without lingering problems.

I tackled the debt first that was most likely to hurt me the most. For most, it will be credit card debt. For me, it was my Sallie Mae private student debt. SM is a shark, so I wanted out asap.

Consult a good finance person to start planning your retirement. Great hustle, conservative spending, and excellent planning mean that the benefits of stripping can extend to you in your senior years.

Don't skimp on a tax professional, and pay your taxes. When I got hurt in an accident that wasn't my fault, I could sue for my stripper wages because my CPA taught me good bookkeeping, and I had a solid tax record that matched up with my club's record of my earnings (keeping track of nude vs. topless dances and courts). When I went to look for a mortgage, my years of dancing (plus my investment in my education and my other businesses) allowed me to fare well.

kirakonstantin
06-25-2014, 01:22 AM
When I say drive like an idiot, I mean... be safe, but do things that will attract attention. Run a red light after checking that nobodys coming, straddle the lane, speed enough to get pulled over, that kind of thing. You want to get police attention and having other drivers calling the cops on you isn't a bad thing either. I've been in more than a few car chases in my day (psycho ex) and it saved my ass when the cops saw us blowing through a red light going 80. Then again, I used to race cars, both legally and... not so legally, so maybe its easier said then done. But if someones tailing you, getting pulled over is a good thing.

sfbaygirl
07-08-2014, 10:40 PM
How do you keep all personal information private when the club asks for ID & your SSC in order to let you dance there?

simone87
07-08-2014, 10:48 PM
^ well, you can't keep it private from the club..this is a real job with paperwork in a lot of places..do not lie about your info on there! but that doesn't mean they are going to show it to any tom dick or harry that wants to spy on you.

Aniela
07-08-2014, 10:54 PM
How do you keep all personal information private when the club asks for ID & your SSC in order to let you dance there?

Most mgrs have a lot more important things to do than dig up your info for whoever wants it. They deal w/ ALOT of girls, between 'house girls', travelling dancers & all the hordes of girls who try it out & only last a wk or a month then nvr come back. Many of the mgrs I have known couldn't even keep girls' stage names straight, forget trying to dig thru that big cabinet of dancer files to find her real info.

jillstar
10-24-2014, 08:14 AM
Thanks this was very helpful

toddkim
10-18-2015, 11:57 AM
Thank you for sharing this to us. I always keep in my about safety. Safety first.

ScarlettSouthernX
02-17-2016, 04:41 AM
This is a really good tip because you also just really don't want to stir up drama in the club or make the other girls not like you. At my club, being sisters with all the girls is really important to surviving and it helps you make more money.

Scarlett56
04-14-2016, 11:14 PM
Hey it s good thread.. I am glad to read it..
Thanks for it..
I am new here..
Hope have a good time here.

punker_barbie
04-26-2016, 08:09 AM
Make a separate email and social media accounts to make sure your online identity stays safe! :)

EastCoastDancer01
04-27-2016, 03:04 PM
NEVER let a customer be physically rough with you in the VIP dances. If he hurts you in any way, scream at the top of your lungs and end the dance immediately. Let the manager know what he did so hopefully he will get kicked out of the club. Make sure the club staff protects you in cases like this...if managers let customers get away with treating the girls badly, you need to switch clubs ASAP!

Angelheart
01-25-2017, 09:06 AM
Thank you, I made the mistake of telling people the city I live in but luckily no one knows my real first name. I'm ready to come up with an entire fake life and persona.

Lucida
02-09-2017, 02:05 PM
Use Uber or Taxify. You can report the driver of any wrong doing. Plus the tracking service is good for safety.

Don't get too friendly with staff. Try to be invisible. And always complain about being broke or being poor so people won't feel threatened by your making money.

Don't ask anybody for favours. Favours always have to be returned--and usually at a loss to you.

Please tell your family. Please. If you don't turn up home, You want your loved ones to know where to look.

Be honest about your job and get income protection and retirement. You might fall off a stage or a ceiling-high rotating pole. Get a financial plan to look after you when you can no longer look after yourself financially. Most exotic dancers are not going to become college graduates. For most of is, this is the night of our earning potential. Face the fucking reality.

If you want a boob job, please don't be cheap. You might regret it. And if you do, go big or go home.

The most effective fighting tactic is the silent treatment. It works every time.

Not all customers are bad. Come on. Don't be that paranoid. I've made some great friends who were customers. One girl was given 20% of everything owned by the customer by the customer. Be open minded. You never know who is going to change your life and take you out of this hopeless job.

Try to start a non sex work business, like a clothing line or something. Even though you just think about the money you need or want, remember that you are better than this job. And this industry will not reward or award you for your contributions. So save up and have an exit plan.

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beha
12-18-2017, 09:39 AM
There are a lot of tips about not telling anyone what car you drive, but my club has a valet service while customers, bouncers, and dancers wait around in the front parking lot. Isn't that risky? I live 50 minutes from work.

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Bikinibabe
06-05-2018, 11:53 AM
Set a schedule for yourself so you don’t get burnt out have goals for saving your money. Have goals period and write them down! Or you will be doing this for years wondering where has time gone? Where has money gone? Set savings goals and life goals

Bikinibabe
06-05-2018, 11:57 AM
Also remember that you are unique for a reason, if you’re thicker than other dancers don’t let that discourage you or if your less “curvy” than others don’t let that discourage you. Every guy is different and they have a different taste so just because you might not Appeal to one customer doesn’t mean you won’t Appeal to another. Don’t change yourself (your looks) until you’ve been sure for a long time about it. Love yourself! This job will build your confidence and give you a thicker skin.

webcamer
06-11-2018, 07:57 PM
Wow really nice tips for newbies (: By the way I tried to post my presentation but the content from the forum is so good!

Sophia77XO
06-11-2018, 08:17 PM
Not sure if anyone has said this, but don’t be afraid to walk away and say what’s on your mind. I look so innocent, but I don’t take bullshit and I tend to walk away a lot of times. I get our job is to listen, but I’m not going to sit there and take shit from a guy that’s being insulting to me.

MollyTaylor
04-15-2019, 11:29 PM
Safe and secure storage of your firearm is one of your most important responsibilities. It is a full-time responsibility. You must always secure your firearm and ammunition separately so that they are not accessible to children or other unauthorized persons.

feelingthisout
04-16-2019, 03:34 PM
# Whatever -) Dont make this job your life...have hobbies outsite the industry...It keeps your sanity!

THIS! When I danced, I was always in that ego and I ended up losing myself, doing things I would never do, and being someone I didn't want to be. I'm lucky to have gotten out when I did. Making this your whole life is exhausting and just bad for your mental health. On that note, keep your home and strip life COMPLETELY SEPARATE! It's along the same veins and also is important for safety reasons.

rihamhanna
11-13-2020, 07:43 AM
When it comes to your comfort level, never give a customer an inch--he will always take a mile.

indiegirl
11-14-2020, 01:22 PM
Money upfront and try to get a tip for everything you can. I reached a point I would ask a tip for my time after conversation when I wasn't making what I needed and they declined a dance LOL.