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21stcenturyfox
01-28-2007, 03:45 PM
i took it for 10yrs every weekend and never had a problem. nor was i addicted to it. my lifestyle was that of a clubber and i took other mind altering drugs during this time. sometimes i would take as many as 6-10 pills in 48 hours. you do crazy things wen youre a kid.
this doesnt mean its okay to take it. It IS a recreational drug.
people dont die from taking ecstacy (unless there are bad chemicals cut into it). they die from over heating or dehydration while on it because it raises your heart rate.
my point is, millions and millions of people around the world take it every weekend. it is NOT like heroin or cocaine.
Ive had absolutely amazing experiences on it and dont regret taking it. But everyone is different. Each to their own. It has not made me a bad person or badly affected my life in any way.
This is just my side of the story.
The best place for drug reference is this website: www.erowid.org
Hope that helps :)
KamrynAnne
01-28-2007, 03:54 PM
this may be a dumb question but can u drink alcohol or any other liquid when u do it?????
sxc_gia
01-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Well, in my expiriences I drank water. Lots of water. LOTS. Lol. You become dehydrated. Alcohol isn't recommended though, cause it dehydrates you even more.
21stcenturyfox
01-28-2007, 04:29 PM
this may be a dumb question but can u drink alcohol or any other liquid when u do it?????
i used to drink alcohol.
Do not take MDMA if you are currently taking prescription MAOIs. MAOIs are most commonly found in the prescription anti-depressants Nardil (phenelzine), Parnate (tranylcypromine), Marplan (isocarboxazid), Eldepryl (l-deprenyl), and Aurorix / Manerix (moclobemide). Ayahuasca also contains MAOIs (harmine and harmaline). MDMA and MAOIs are a potentially dangerous combination.
Avoid taking MDMA if you are currently using the protease inhibitor Ritonavir. This may be a life-threatening combination.
Individuals with a history of heart ailments, high blood pressure, aneurism or stroke, glaucoma, hepatic (liver) or renal (kidney) disorders, or hypoglycemia may be at higher risk. Special consideration should be taken when combining MDMA & Viagra (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health7.shtml).
Avoid other strong stimulants in combination with MDMA.
MDMA use can exacerbate depression in some users and cause depressions with heavy or frequent use.
MDMA use can cause severe crashes (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects2.shtml) and hangovers (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_effects_hangover1.shtml) in some users.
Avoid high doses and frequent use. Over the last 15 years, many studies have shown that the higher the dose and more frequent the use, the worse the long term after-effects may be.
A small percentage of users seem to react with extreme sensitivity to MDMA and experience overly strong effects at normal doses. Although it was previously speculated that sensitivity was related to the liver enzyme CYP-2D6, there is mounting evidence that CYP-2D6 does not play a critical role in sensitivity or adverse reactions. See the CYP-2D6 & MDMA Pharmacology Page (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_pharmacology1.shtml).
Overheating: MDMA use can lead to hyperthermia (overheating) especially in those who are exerting themselves for long periods of time. It is important for users to pay attention to their bodies and make sure they aren't overheating. Take breaks from dancing. Step outside for a moment if the temperature in the room is high. Make sure to drink enough, but not too much, water.
Hyponatremia / Water Intoxication: Some ecstasy users overreact to the overheating and dehydration issue by obsessively over-drinking. When drinking large amounts of water it's important to mix in sports drinks or salty snacks to avoid the very real dangers of hyponatremia (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health_water.shtml) (low salt), which can cause serious health problems including death. MDMA can cause changes in the body's diuretic hormone, leading to much higher susceptibility to hyponatremia. Drink water, but don't drink too much.
Neurotoxicity: (http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity.shtml) Risk of long term changes to serotonin increases with dose and frequency of use. Controversial.
exotisch23
01-28-2007, 04:49 PM
::grumbles about the war on drugs
Seriously, this is supposed to be a free country. Educate people and then let them be.
Check out the show Intervention sometime. You can't just educate someone and except them to make all the right choices.
21stcenturyfox
01-28-2007, 05:29 PM
I think I was lucky that all my partying took place in a country that was pro-education. In South Africa at every club and rave, there were people called RAVESAFE and they had a little stand with posters that told you the consequences of mixing certain drugs and with pamphlets etc etc. So basically I was educated in how to take drugs responsibly. In 7yrs I heard of only one person who OD'd.
Then I moved to the UK and they dont have anything like that and I heard about people dying on drugs all the time. The same drugs I was taking and it was because they were never taught how to take drugs responsibly.
Drug education is the same as sex education. If you dont know that sleeping around unprotected will earn you STDs and HIV, then you are at a greater risk.
Same goes for if you dont know that mixing alcohol and GHB makes it highly likely for you to OD and die because its a lethal combination. A lot of people died in the UK so others could learn that lesson. I read it on a poster when I was 16.
xBlackBettyx
01-28-2007, 05:37 PM
i took it for 10yrs every weekend and never had a problem. nor was i addicted to it. my lifestyle was that of a clubber and i took other mind altering drugs during this time. sometimes i would take as many as 6-10 pills in 48 hours. you do crazy things wen youre a kid.
this doesnt mean its okay to take it. It IS a recreational drug.
people dont die from taking ecstacy (unless there are bad chemicals cut into it). they die from over heating or dehydration while on it because it raises your heart rate.
my point is, millions and millions of people around the world take it every weekend. it is NOT like heroin or cocaine.
Ive had absolutely amazing experiences on it and dont regret taking it. But everyone is different. Each to their own. It has not made me a bad person or badly affected my life in any way.
This is just my side of the story.
The best place for drug reference is this website: www.erowid.org (http://www.erowid.org)
Hope that helps :)
Just because you didn't get addicted doesn't mean everyone else won't.
TheSexKitten
01-29-2007, 12:43 PM
MDMA in reasonable doses is not addictive. If it's cut with heroin or meth, it might be a different story, though.
21stcenturyfox
01-29-2007, 03:17 PM
hey im not advocating the use of any drugs at all, im just saying it isnt as bad as a lot of people think regardless if that is hard for some people to understand :)
funlatina82
01-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Well, the weekend came and went and my little bro didn't end up doing it. I'm still gonna keep an eye out tho. I would really like to be there if he ends up trying it.
Katrine
01-29-2007, 06:01 PM
I've done it lots of times over the years and never got hooked on it. However, I have had problems with other drugs. You never know. A bunch of my friends took it this weekend for a birthday party, and I had absolutely no desire to do it.
Growing up, some of my crew would do it every weekend for months at a time, and come out as human zombies. It definately zaps the seratonin.
xBlackBettyx
01-29-2007, 07:04 PM
MDMA in reasonable doses is not addictive. If it's cut with heroin or meth, it might be a different story, though.
I consider a mental addiction a pretty big part in drug addiction. Granted, you may not be physically dependant on the drug, but that doesn't mean you won't get addicted in some way, shape or form. You'll have a shit hard time finding pure MDMA anyways.
I don't think people who say "It's not as bad as you think" has obviously never dealt with a drug problem or a loved one who has dealt with a drug problem. I'm not saying everyone will become addicted to a drug(s), but why take that chance to have fun you could have without them....
Sirona
01-29-2007, 07:34 PM
You'll have a shit hard time finding pure MDMA anyways.
Unless you're lucky enough to be good friends with a chemist. ;D
Djoser
01-29-2007, 08:00 PM
I don't think people who say "It's not as bad as you think" has obviously never dealt with a drug problem or a loved one who has dealt with a drug problem...
In my case, not true at all. I have seen all kinds of addiction, and lost a couple friends to it.
My stepfather is an alcoholic who has spent years battling it with great success until my mom died, and now he is struggling a bit.
But when I see the anti-drug propaganda on TV--or hear it spewed back out at me from people who don't know any better (not meaning to include you in there, of course)--it either makes me want to laugh or vomit, depending on my mood.
One thing is clear, certain kinds of people should not take drugs (or alcohol) at all.
Certain kinds of people need to be careful when taking drugs.
Certain kinds of people seem to be quite safe when they take the occasional drug, so long as it is pure, of course.
I totally agree that the best high is natural--but I see nothing wrong with an occasional supplement, lol. And i do agree that clinical use of X could be helpful to many people--the problem is usually it isn't taken with the proper foresight to make that result predictable.
VegasPrincess
02-01-2007, 01:05 AM
Trust me, smacky pills have heroin in them. Just, seriously, tust me on this one.
PaigeDWinter
02-01-2007, 03:15 AM
Egads this is a drug I have always been curious about. This thread is like a rollercoaster in my tummy... if that makes sense? It's like Eeee I wanna try but eeeee it scares me but eee... LOL
TheSexKitten
02-01-2007, 01:59 PM
I won't lie, I enjoy it. I have a close friend who is a distributor and have done it twice... 6 months apart.
It's totally fucking awesome. :X
Vyanka
02-01-2007, 02:17 PM
Egads this is a drug I have always been curious about. This thread is like a rollercoaster in my tummy... if that makes sense? It's like Eeee I wanna try but eeeee it scares me but eee... LOL
hjaeportjlrzxdhfse... me too. but i feel like that with every drug(except pot), i'm too chicken shit to experiment just once.
christian211
02-01-2007, 02:50 PM
I've done it lots of times over the years and never got hooked on it. However, I have had problems with other drugs. You never know. A bunch of my friends took it this weekend for a birthday party, and I had absolutely no desire to do it.
Growing up, some of my crew would do it every weekend for months at a time, and come out as human zombies. It definately zaps the seratonin.
True!!! I remember leaving the after hours and looking around thinking everybody looked like a damn zombie. It was quite a site at six in the morning, sun shining. Disturbing/:O
lexXe
02-01-2007, 06:42 PM
True!!! I remember leaving the after hours and looking around thinking everybody looked like a damn zombie. It was quite a site at six in the morning, sun shining. Disturbing/:O
Oh the good old days lol I used to go to this after hours Sunday morning after the Sat night clubs closed that was open all day and night till Monday morning. It was always very interesting leaving that place at 8am and watching people as they went to work.
christian211
02-01-2007, 07:09 PM
Oh the good old days lol I used to go to this after hours Sunday morning after the Sat night clubs closed that was open all day and night till Monday morning. It was always very interesting leaving that place at 8am and watching people as they went to work.
It's prob not MA( even though I got no location from your avatar) , but we'd go to Boston, then after hours @ pulse in Prov., even the last couple of years it's a strictly gay club and not really catering to the after hours crowd. However, the few times we roll a year, we're hitting the Avalon/Boston. Fun enough, though we don't hit rolls like i used to;)
flickad
02-01-2007, 08:51 PM
hjaeportjlrzxdhfse... me too. but i feel like that with every drug(except pot), i'm too chicken shit to experiment just once.
In alot of ways, you're better off being chickenshit *nods*.
madmaxine
02-01-2007, 09:10 PM
*Maxine whips out her gat & jacks the thread*
I have a weird philosophy for not doing X. I never want to take a drug that makes me like people more than I would normally. I enjoy being a misanthrope.
I understand what Bill Hicks said about drugs fueling creative art, but frankly, if someone is not creative enough to make something interesting without chemical influence...Why should I be sold on that? It's almost fraud.
(Best of all kids, now pain & mutilation is a drug [suspensions, scarification, etc.] You can score for free if you just f*ck yourself up!!!)
*OK back to touchyfeelyhappytime rolling*
scorpio
02-02-2007, 12:25 PM
There is no heroin in extacy. period. full stop. end of story. It is not orally active in small amounts and it is expensive. I have personally tested hundreds of pills, no heroin ever. meth? yes. Amphetamines? Yes. Dxm? yes. Coke? never. The website dancesafe.org (I don't know if it's still up) has tested THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of pills from all over the world. No heroin. Evar.
Just like there is no strychnine in acid.
21stcenturyfox
02-02-2007, 11:45 PM
what about ketamine? im sure ive had pills with ket in and since spending a year as a big fan of ket, im pretty sure i was right.
as much as i loved ket, it is a nasty, dirty drug. whoever is worried about their brother taking E, you should be worrying about him doing Ketamine.
i will never touch that drug again. i loved the experiences i had on it, but it is so volatile and so much more dangerous and this is comeing from a seasoned recreational drug user.
christian211
02-03-2007, 07:43 AM
what about ketamine? im sure ive had pills with ket in and since spending a year as a big fan of ket, im pretty sure i was right.
as much as i loved ket, it is a nasty, dirty drug. whoever is worried about their brother taking E, you should be worrying about him doing Ketamine.
i will never touch that drug again. i loved the experiences i had on it, but it is so volatile and so much more dangerous and this is comeing from a seasoned recreational drug user.
Ooooh, I had friends who did K and that's why I never would touch that, evar!!! That's what I was thinking from Scorpio's post, though. There's no herion in a roll, but maybe it's K or another seriously hardcore depressant. I think that would make it smacky-ish, lol.
scorpio
02-03-2007, 11:02 AM
the "smacky" is meth laced pills. Sometimes, pure MDMA, really pure stuff (super rare) feels smacky too. I actually like when there is a small amount of speed in the mix, because pure MDA or MDMA is sometime too mellow and overwhelming.
Djoser
02-04-2007, 03:30 AM
In Daytona everyone was doing 'beans', which supposedly had heroin mixed with Ex. But if it's scientifically impossible to put heroin in a pill, I guess not.
Could it have been oxycontin instead--that comes in pills, so it would work, I imagine.
velvet
02-04-2007, 07:03 PM
There is no heroin in extacy. period. full stop. end of story. It is not orally active in small amounts and it is expensive. I have personally tested hundreds of pills, no heroin ever. meth? yes. Amphetamines? Yes. Dxm? yes. Coke? never. The website dancesafe.org (I don't know if it's still up) has tested THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of pills from all over the world. No heroin. Evar.
Just like there is no strychnine in acid.
truth... THANK YOU
also those brain scans they were putting all over the media a few years back of holes in the brain caused by x. were later proven to be scans of a METH users brain. it does deplete seritonin. however it will come back unless you are a cronic user.
testing is key. the dmx pills are NASTY
djoser, urban myth. "beans" are just a slang name no herion added!
Tigress
02-05-2007, 05:57 PM
I have only tried X once.
I loved the buzz. But I found that it made me VERY warm. Raised my core temperature.
That wasn't cool.
lexXe
02-05-2007, 06:11 PM
what about ketamine? im sure ive had pills with ket in and since spending a year as a big fan of ket, im pretty sure i was right.
as much as i loved ket, it is a nasty, dirty drug. whoever is worried about their brother taking E, you should be worrying about him doing Ketamine.
i will never touch that drug again. i loved the experiences i had on it, but it is so volatile and so much more dangerous and this is comeing from a seasoned recreational drug user.
Yeah, K is definitely something you have to ease, you can't do too much in a short period of time. I used to love K and E together.
xBlackBettyx
02-06-2007, 02:13 PM
Unless you're lucky enough to be good friends with a chemist. ;D
Well that's true, but I doubt many people know a lot of street chemists (lol). Although, I guess it's not that weird to know someone that makes/used to make and distribute drugs. I know a guy who used to have a meth lab...before he got 30 years in jail (only ended up serving 5 or something though).
xBlackBettyx
02-06-2007, 02:15 PM
what about ketamine? im sure ive had pills with ket in and since spending a year as a big fan of ket, im pretty sure i was right.
as much as i loved ket, it is a nasty, dirty drug. whoever is worried about their brother taking E, you should be worrying about him doing Ketamine.
i will never touch that drug again. i loved the experiences i had on it, but it is so volatile and so much more dangerous and this is comeing from a seasoned recreational drug user.
Damn, I had yet to meet a Ketamine fan. They do say the high is great, but you're sick for days after doing it. I still have an interest in it for some reason.