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dayzed
01-24-2007, 08:07 AM
I have been doing a bit of hand wringing over this issue recently, and am curious as to the outlook of the local cognoscenti.

BTW I didn't submit this question to "Sex Talk" because this ain't "free sex" that I'm talking about here.

Jenny
01-24-2007, 08:40 AM
Wow. I just totally had to google "Cognoscenti".

lawofficeofjaj
01-24-2007, 10:16 AM
Jenny I guess that you are no expert in etymology.

Jenny
01-24-2007, 11:29 AM
I think the question is in the poll.

Ljaj - I'll have you know that my mother says that I'm a GENIUS. The entire point was that I was impressed. If you weren't - I'm okay with that. I stand by my initial assessment - way to go, dayzed.

dayzed
01-24-2007, 02:02 PM
Is there some place where I can get information on the parameters of what can and cannot be discussed here? thx.

FBR
01-24-2007, 09:45 PM
I've never had a blow job ITC. OTC with strippers, several. All were BB.

FBR

Casual Observer
01-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Not into ITC action myself, but all oral action, irrespective of venue, should be BBBJNQNS anyway.

dayzed
01-25-2007, 01:16 PM
Not to sound matronly or something, but I am a little surprised at the absence here of any concerns re: chlamydia, gonorrhea and the like...

I do understand though that this is a risk wtih which many have likely made peace, and are therefore disinclined to analyze with much energy.

xdamage
01-25-2007, 02:03 PM
All valid concerns, which is a factor in why I don't do certain things in a SC. Although I really don't know what the risks are of getting a disease from BJ or HJ.

Yea, I know, the same risks apply OTC with a stranger, but as with any risks, people make their decisions based on what they perceive the risks to be, and I like to think, how well they can block out the costs from their mind. What I mean by that is that most people ultimately take a significant risk because they fundamentally believe that whatever the the cost, it won't happen to them.

Like I said, the same risks apply OTC with a stranger, but the risk of getting one of these diseases is a function of how many risks you take, and how many risks your partner takes. The more risks you or your partner takes, the more likely you are to end up with a disease. You know your own risk level, and you can test yourself. You don't know someone else's risk level, but... what you do know is if a stripper is doing something for you she is probably doing it for others, and probably many others, possibly many times a day. You can't be 100% sure, and of course we'd like to tell ourselves we are the exception, but the reality is probably that it's part of her normal repertoire of services. Factor in that you're not going to wait for her to get tested, the smart thing to do is wrap it up.

mr_punk
01-27-2007, 06:24 AM
I have been doing a bit of hand wringing over this issue recently, and am curious as to the outlook of the local cognoscenti.well, the sc dumpster isn't filled with wadded cocktail napkins because PLs are spilling their drinks. on a side note, who in the fu#k are all of these skankmongers..er..cognoscenti? i mean, considering the type of question. i would have estimated between 4-7 total votes. i guess it's the power of the anonymous poll.

Not to sound matronly or something, but I am a little surprised at the absence here of any concerns re: chlamydia, gonorrhea and the like...well, if it makes you feel any better. i'll tell you about the time i thought i caught a STD from a stripper. long story short, my sore willy wasn't due to a STD, but a mistimed stroke, impatience (due to my horniness), lack of lube and two minutes of relentless jackhammering.

but hey, on the bright side. all my carefully planned machinations for damage control was all for naught. my willy was in dry dock for six weeks. also, the pictures (penile fractures) my urologist showed me of "what could have been" were a real treat.


I do understand though that this is a risk wtih which many have likely made peace, and are therefore disinclined to analyze with much energy.exactly, if you want to avoid the risk and be 100% totally safe. keep it in your pants or in your handhttp://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif......http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/masturbanana.gif permanently.

Richard_Head
01-27-2007, 01:11 PM
my willy was in dry dock for six weeks.ouch!


also, the pictures (penile fractures) my urologist showed me of "what could have been" were a real treat.double ouch!!

evan_essence
01-29-2007, 03:57 PM
I ... am curious as to the outlook of the local cognoscenti.To be deemed cognoscenti on the subject, wouldn't the respondents have to possess an ability to assess risk realistically? Which pretty much excludes anyone who would answer the question. So I think you mean you're curious as to the outlook of delusional fools.

-Ev

mr_punk
01-29-2007, 06:11 PM
To be deemed cognoscenti on the subject, wouldn't the respondents have to possess an ability to assess risk realistically?no, at least, not in this instance. it's a man rule, baby. since, men lack the enough blood to keep both heads functioning at once. we usually go with the little one when it comes to pussy. sh#t, if men were actually able realistically assess such risk. why, there would be no such things as psycho biatches, ex-wives, divorce laywers, etc. in fact, you should be on your knees thanking us, while licking our collective scrotums because without this phenomenon. your g-string wouldn't even get you a cup of coffee.

dayzed
01-29-2007, 08:50 PM
To be deemed cognoscenti on the subject, wouldn't the respondents have to possess an ability to assess risk realistically? More to the point, could the cultivation of knowledge of this particular subject, no matter how rich or specialized, ever elevate one to the status of cognoscenti? No? Then the term must have been intended ironically.

So I think you mean you're curious as to the outlook of delusional fools.Fools, maybe, degenerate, definitely, but certainly not delusional. That demographic will be no help at all.

Katrine
01-29-2007, 09:34 PM
I asked this question when I was posting on aspd a while back. Everyone simply replied that BBBJ is their requirement from a provider, and that's that. Health and safety seemed to dissapear into air and the site mods already hated me so I didn't incite debate.

One provider did disretionarily message me and told me she did slip on a rubber when she was giving them a BJ, and shared some of her tricks to make it as subtle as possible. Now, I'm presuming that getting a BJ from a hooker in a hotel rooom is the same as getting one from a stripper in the club.

But yeah, all the whoremongers started to high-fiiiiive each other about how good it felt to get their dick sucked, and nothing got resolved.

Even girls on the pink side admit to going to work with cold sores/blisters. The lightening is oh so dark, and it just feels so right. Oh yeah baby, for only $60 more, she'll let you come in her mouth. Then how many months of Valtrex prescriptions will you be paying for the rest of your life?

Are you scared yet? Punk? Anyone?

jannisary
01-29-2007, 10:25 PM
Katrine, you make a good point. Herpes is my main concern when getting bj regardless of who is giving it to me. A woman could be infectious without even having a visible sore. I wish I could say that this concern has prompted me to always practice safer sex but it hasn't. Pay for play is probably more risky than with the non-pros but none of it is risk free. Getting a cbj doesn't bother me but I'll admit I prefer bbbj and will keep getting them.

The last time I got a cbj the girl was very enthusiastic, so much so that she even sucked and licked my balls.....kinda defeated the purpose didn't it?

Katrine
01-29-2007, 11:35 PM
Pay for play is probably more risky than with the non-pros but none of it is risk free. Getting a cbj doesn't bother me but I'll admit I prefer bbbj and will keep getting them.


There you go. Obviously you aren't really that concerned are you.

yoda57us
01-30-2007, 08:57 AM
Almost always BB for me. There was a period years ago immediately after HIV and herpes surfaced when you couldn't get a BBBJ even from a street prostitute.
Nowadays it seems most high end escorts offer BBBJ with everything else covered. I freely admit to not having done any research on this. I am putting my self in the hands, and mouth, of some reasonably intelligent women who appear to be comfortable giving a BBBJ and make a good living at it. I don't complain if a new gal puts a wrapper on but it's rare. If a provider gets a rep on TER for CBJ she won't get top dollar.
As far as ITC BJ's specifically my only current BJ girl is strictly BBBJ w/ covered FS. There is a really skanky club in Providence that has been operating as pretty much a brothel for the last couple of years. The girls have figured out that the easiest way to compete for business is to spread rumors about which STDs the other girls have.

Jenny
01-30-2007, 09:19 AM
Well, regarding herpes specifically, think about the comparative risk: she could, possibly, contract oral herpes and you could, possibly, contract genital herpes. Her incentive for the risk is financial gain. Your incentive is gratification. So the cost-benefit analysis is significantly different. Her hands may not be the safest place for the good health of your genitals. Just something to consider. You might want to do some googling.

That said - who has numbers on both the serious and minor STI/STD that one can contract from oral? What exactly IS the risk? I neither pay nor get paid for oral sex, but honestly, I really dislike the taste of latex. So I take the risk (although never with open cold sores; although I've ALWAYS been the one to point the cold sore and say "Really, you don't want my herpes ridden mouth around your penis right now." Katrine is right - guys are retarded about this issue. I mean the infection is RIGHT THERE, highly visible and they are still, inevitably, willing and even really desirous, of going right on ahead. )

gameover
01-30-2007, 04:42 PM
Well, regarding herpes specifically, think about the comparative risk: she could, possibly, contract oral herpes and you could, possibly, contract genital herpes. Her incentive for the risk is financial gain. Your incentive is gratification. So the cost-benefit analysis is significantly different. Her hands may not be the safest place for the good health of your genitals. Just something to consider. You might want to do some googling.

That said - who has numbers on both the serious and minor STI/STD that one can contract from oral? What exactly IS the risk? I neither pay nor get paid for oral sex, but honestly, I really dislike the taste of latex. So I take the risk (although never with open cold sores; although I've ALWAYS been the one to point the cold sore and say "Really, you don't want my herpes ridden mouth around your penis right now." Katrine is right - guys are retarded about this issue. I mean the infection is RIGHT THERE, highly visible and they are still, inevitably, willing and even really desirous, of going right on ahead. )

Not all guys, thx :)

Katrine
01-30-2007, 09:39 PM
What about when you've given a BBBJ in the club, or BB DATY to an escort, then the next day start coming down with something and develop a cold sore/fever blister?

Who knows how long you've been infectious, right? What do you do then? What if you don't even know this person's name? Have you infected them? Are they married? Can they infect their spouses and children? Giving birth with a herpes outbreak is very dangerous to the child. Herpes is a permanent immuno-depressant virus. It opens up the body's susceptibility to other disease and illness.

How far have we all gone? And that's only one STD example, albeit a very common one.

jannisary
01-30-2007, 10:29 PM
I can't argue with you Katrine, you're right.

Am I really concerned? Yes, I am even though I have continued and probably will continue in the activity. That in itself causes me worry.

I've been with women who insisted I had to wear a condom for intercourse and blow jobs but then wanted me to DATY and didn't even think about protection. Hopefully if I had noticeable sores they wouldn't have let me do it but I could have been infectious anyway. How many women always make use of dental dams for DATY? Not that many I bet.

Maybe its the very fact that herpes is so common. I think the cdc says 1 in 5 Americans have genital herpes, not sure how many have oral herpes but I'm guessing even more. How do you avoid it? Even if you're not seeing pros or providing there is still a pretty good chance of coming across it.

Even insisting on a condom every time isn't foolproof. You can catch herpes from other contact areas not covered by the condom. Heck you can even spread it from one area of your body to another.

I know safer sex reduces the risks. Knowing it and always practicing it though are two different things. If anything at least this thread might encourage me to do that.

rozz
01-31-2007, 07:52 AM
What about when you've given a BBBJ in the club, or BB DATY to an escort, then the next day start coming down with something and develop a cold sore/fever blister?

Who knows how long you've been infectious, right?

You're generally infectious from 1-2 days before outbreak (when you're obviously infectious) and 1-2 days after. If there is an outbreak, anywhere in the boxer-covered region, condoms will help, but they are not herpes-proof. Herpes can live anywhere, on the testicles, near the rectum, on the thighs... many areas not covered by a condom.

It could just the the health educator in me, but I believe in getting tested before any type of sexual activity. On my campus, the major STI is herpes, followed closely by HPV. Failing a monogamous relationship and testing, everyone should be using condoms.

Oh, and please remember that herpes can be passed from mouth to genitals, genital to genital, and genital to mouth. There are two types, and they are not restricted to simply one area. Sexy.

evan_essence
01-31-2007, 08:46 PM
... if men were actually able realistically assess such risk. why, there would be no such things as psycho biatches, ex-wives, divorce laywers, etc. in fact, you should be on your knees thanking us, while licking our collective scrotums because without this phenomenon. your g-string wouldn't even get you a cup of coffee.So we dismiss the risk and the possibility of lowering the risk with rationalization and humor. You guys use humor and needling to peer pressure everyone into avoiding certain PL behavior. But high risk sexual contact isn't PL behavior? It isn't deserving of the same concern to preserve your health as your concern to preserve your wallet?

In a sane world, health risk would be the reason that stopping short of flesh-to-flesh contact should be a perfectly viable strip club business model. That's a selling point.

And for the record, yeah, I've been way wreckless before, too. I'm betting most of us have. I'm lucky I didn't wind up paying more toll for it. (Well, actually, that's not entirely true but that's a long story for another time.) Regardless, it's not something a wiser me can justify. Sheesh, some of you guys are old enough that youthful naivete isn't an excuse. Maybe it's because I live with a chronically ill person and not only do I not want to be in that position, I can't afford to be. Consequently, I'm much sluttier in my head than loins.

-Ev

xdamage
02-01-2007, 01:09 PM
Am I really concerned? Yes, I am even though I have continued and probably will continue in the activity. That in itself causes me worry.


That's what I meant by somehow people block it out vs really coming to grips with the risks. But on the other hand I can understand the heat of the moment and why we take risks. I think I'd be more inclined to take the risks myself if I was single, but I don't want to risk her health. If I'm going to take the risk for myself that's one thing. If I'm risking someone else health too without them even getting the pleasure out of it (let alone the CHOICE), that does feel fairly rotten to me. Even rotten fuckers have limits.

xdamage
02-02-2007, 08:57 AM
BTW, there should be a 3rd choice to this poll:

o Neither, BJs with prot aren't worth paying for, and BJs without are too risky.

mr_punk
02-02-2007, 07:04 PM
So we dismiss the risk and the possibility of lowering the risk with rationalization and humor.what were you expecting? lip service? look, i'm not dimissing anything. it's like i told dayzed, there's no free lunch. so, whether one decides to wrap or not with whomever. one still has to be able to deal with and accept the possibility. otherwise, keep your zipper or thighs closed.

In a sane world, health risk would be the reason that stopping short of flesh-to-flesh contact should be a perfectly viable strip club business model. That's a selling point.and not a very novel one. ironically, it's also the selling point for tighter sc restrictions or eradication.

And for the record, yeah, I've been way wreckless before, too. I'm betting most of us have.<gasp> what!? you? skanking it up? no way! why, i never would have guessed and all this time i thought you were the salt of the earth. now, this is a selling point for keeping girls away from the brass pole.

xdamage
02-02-2007, 10:58 PM
ironically, it's also the selling point for tighter sc restrictions or eradication.


Exactly.

evan_essence
02-03-2007, 12:00 AM
and not a very novel one. ironically, it's also the selling point for tighter sc restrictions or eradication.There are numerous cases of industries establishing self regulation and touting that self regulation as having value for consumers. That's a business strategy they take to successfully avoid government restrictions or eradication.

-Ev

mr_punk
02-03-2007, 08:52 AM
There are numerous cases of industries establishing self regulation and touting that self regulation as having value for consumers. That's a business strategy they take to successfully avoid government restrictions or eradication.i don't disagree, but often it occurs by arm-twisting rather than being a voluntary business strategy. for example, take MLB recent knee-jerk reaction on steriods (i still say roids won't help one put the bat on the ball) due to congressional grandstanding. talk about overkill. ironically, for years MLB, congress, the press and the public, winked and nodded at amphetamine use, which is more widespread and has a longer history than steriods.

AkashaM
02-07-2007, 07:00 AM
Almost always BB for me. There was a period years ago immediately after HIV and herpes surfaced when you couldn't get a BBBJ even from a street prostitute.
Nowadays it seems most high end escorts offer BBBJ with everything else covered..
My god! What started this horrible trend of sex workers giving blow jobs uncovered?! BAD BAD BAD!!!
Besides herpes (which is incurable btw) gonhorrea can EASILY PASSED via oral.
EX: custy #1 has got the clap. Gets blown by hooker A. Hooker A gets the clap IN HER THROAT and it resides in the mucus there (yes this is possible, 2 of my friends got it like this) and she may have no knowlege of it because its often asymptumatic like this. Hooker A blows custy #2. TA-DA! now you have 3 dumbasses who have it.>:(

Yeah, a little antibiotic makes it go away, but who wants to risk becoming sterile if its unchecked?

(I personally wouldnt want to taste mass amounts of strange dick on any given. Nope.) :D

Wake up boys!

Furthermore, why is this thread called "when getting a bj from a stripper"?wouldnt it be appropriate to say "hooker"?

Or do you ask b/c getting bj's OTC is generally risky b/c they may not be able to carry condoms like a "full time" pro would?

(not trying to incite a disscussion on extras, just trying to understand the OP)

Forgive me for being so long winded on the boy's board, but this just really disappointing to read, considering that many of us have seen how things went down in the 80's and early 90's.

Now that AIDS is a "managible chronic disease" (like diabetes) in eyes of people who are in thier tweens & teens today--no one seems concerned anymore b/c there are no "living skeletons" (Freddy Mercury & Gia Carrangi for example) that showed what STDs can do to our bodies when left untreated...esp since its something that we can avoid and have tons od knowlege on.

I'm a little suprised considering the ages of people here...everyone has lived thru the 80's.

xdamage
02-07-2007, 08:36 AM
My god! What started this horrible trend of sex workers giving blow jobs uncovered?! BAD BAD BAD!!!


It's what sells. It takes two, a seller who wants money and is willing to do it for money, a customer who wants a BJ and is willing to pay for it.



Furthermore, why is this thread called "when getting a bj from a stripper"?wouldnt it be appropriate to say "hooker"?


/shrug. I'd say take that to the girls board. Let the girls fight among themselves over the terminology. I think the men get the difference, we just aren't as focused on the labels. The topic he raised is what is interesting here, and the reality is it's happening in SCs around the country. Changing the labels won't change the reality of what is going on. I realize that those girls who don't engage in this behavior would rather not have their job label associated with it, but that's a separate topic and still won't change the fact that it's happening in SCs around the country.



Or do you ask b/c getting bj's OTC is generally risky b/c they may not be able to carry condoms like a "full time" pro would?

(not trying to incite a disscussion on extras, just trying to understand the OP)


I don't think he was asking to place judgement or to justify behavior either way, just sometimes us men like to explore topics and find out the reality (we can do so objectively, without emotions preventing us from discussing what is, even if what is has negative implications).



Forgive me for being so long winded on the boy's board, but this just really disappointing to read, considering that many of us have seen how things went down in the 80's and early 90's.

I'm a little suprised considering the ages of people here...everyone has lived thru the 80's.

I guess I'm not surprised. People's basic nature hasn't changed in the last 20-30 years. Education matters, but there are always going to be people who make decisions more based on feelings (or what feels good) rather then on what they know intellectually is best.

lopaw
02-07-2007, 09:14 PM
How many women always make use of dental dams for DATY? Not that many I bet.

You are absolutely right. I don't use one, and I have never had a dancer ever offer to use one on me. Of course it was very risky behaviour of which I do not indulge anymore. I consider myself lucky to have walked/limped away relatively unscathed.

CheetahTim
02-08-2007, 01:23 AM
Should I be so lucky! Assuming this isn't a joke, just for the record, HIV can be spread through unprotected oral sex. No glove, no love. (Ok, so I haven't always followed this advise but I was lucky.)

mr_punk
02-09-2007, 10:19 PM
My god! What started this horrible trend of sex workers giving blow jobs uncovered?! BAD BAD BAD!!!sheesh, the only thing missing from this thread is a "hysterical and cautionary tale" from laura love.

I personally wouldnt want to taste mass amounts of strange dick on any given. Nope.umm..you don't need to taste mass amounts of strange dick to get a STD. strangely enough, you can get it from one very familiar dick that's been to places you never knew about...imagine that. but hey, everyone plays within their own definition of "safe".

Furthermore, why is this thread called "when getting a bj from a stripper"?wouldnt it be appropriate to say "hooker"?<shrug> stripper...whore. we'll leave the eyeball clawing and hair-pulling..oops..artistic differences to you broads.

Or do you ask b/c getting bj's OTC is generally risky b/c they may not be able to carry condoms like a "full time" pro would?LOL..what? no, i don't think that's what he was asking at all. still, talk about your question from left field.

Forgive me for being so long winded on the boy's board, but this just really disappointing to read, considering that many of us have seen how things went down in the 80's and early 90's.well, you must recall the promotion of a certain misconception during that time. specifically, the popular slogan of Safe Sex. technically, there's no such thing. yet, this idea still persists today. anyway, it's always been risk reduction not elimination.

sander8son
02-10-2007, 07:50 AM
stripper/hooker. same thing. some strippers just provide more sexual services than others. in this thread we're focussing on strippers who suck dick in or out of the club for a fee.

question for the board:

Why is it considered more risky to get sucked off by someone for money than for drinks? I feel more comfortable with a pro than a skank. The fact that I don't believe in aids helps too.

mdiver
02-10-2007, 10:09 AM
question for the board:

Why is it considered more risky to get sucked off by someone for money than for drinks?

I have never understood this either. All of the women that I have met at regular night clubs were willing to let me fuck them with out a condom, I wrapped it up anyway. On the other hand I have only come across one pro who wanted me to fuck her with out one.

I don't see what makes a "regular girl" out drinking with her friends cleaner then one who charges for services rendered. They all offered BBBJ.

threlayer
03-05-2007, 04:35 PM
Speaking of drinks, does alcohol kill those little buggers? If so, it might be a reason to keep a little C2H5OH in the mouth, but not continue to the CIM stage.

Moneywise
03-18-2007, 04:01 PM
In my 30+ years of existence I have been one lucky bastard. I keep getting this feeling that one day something is going to hit me really really hard. I guess it's a good thing that widsom comes with age because I was a crazy ass MF back in my 20s.

Howie
03-18-2007, 09:12 PM
Not into ITC action myself, but all oral action, irrespective of venue, should be BBBJNQNS anyway.

I understand BBBJ, but whats the rest of that mean?

lestat1
04-10-2007, 09:43 PM
My wild guess from no experience in this matter whatsoever:

I think in this little "cost-benefit" analysis, both sides of this argument pretty much agree on the cost (i.e. the risk involved), but the benefit is estimated much higher those here who have a penis.

I'd want it covered (I'm so paranoid about getting my girlfriend pregnant I use a condom even with her on the pill) but I admit that my willpower is not infinite. I'm fairly sure that if Carmella DeCesare, Jenna Haze, or Britney Spears (early Britney, before she became a psychology textbook case study) wanted nothing more desperately on this Earth than to blow me for three hours straight but she lacked a condom, she'd eventually get her way.

KentuckyMysteryMan
05-18-2007, 05:16 AM
Btw, getting a bj from a stripper is no more of a risk than say, getting a bj from a sorority girl. Seriously...

xdamage
05-18-2007, 05:47 AM
Btw, getting a bj from a stripper is no more of a risk than say, getting a bj from a sorority girl. Seriously...

I disagree. My view of it is that when it comes to sexually transmitted diseases, the risk, like gambling, is a measurable odds game. The odds are related to how many partners you engage with in risky behaviors, and how many partners your partners engage with in risky behaviors, and how many risks their partners partners engage in, and so on down the line. Multiply all of those together and that's your risk factor.

Where the stripper is probably taking the risk several times a day, 5-6 days a week with many different customers (each of which has their own set of risky behaviors which the stripper never asks about or factors into her decision), the sorority girl is almost assuredly not taking same level of risk in terms of frequency at least, and possibly not in terms of how many risks her partners are taking.

Also if any of these diseases (e.g., herpes, gonorrhea) have short term life in the back of the throat, mouth, lips, the stripper is far more likely to have one of these from the last customer that just walked out the door then the sorority girl.

That's not to say you can't get a disease from the sorority girl, but the odds of it happening are lower.

There is nothing wrong with taking risks if you want, however if you are going to do it, do it with your eyes open. If you are doing it under the belief that the risk is no different then doing it with a sorority girl I'd say you are misinformed.

mr_punk
05-18-2007, 06:31 PM
the sorority girl is almost assuredly not taking same level of risk in terms of frequency at least, and possibly not in terms of how many risks her partners are taking.in our day, we might have settled for a chaste kiss on the cheek after the sock hop and a ice cream soda, but it's a whole different world today. oral sex among the younger generation is as prevalent as a handshake. in general, one of the largest risk demographic for STD are young people.

xdamage
05-18-2007, 07:52 PM
in our day, we might have settled for a chaste kiss on the cheek after the sock hop and a ice cream soda, but it's a whole different world today. oral sex among the younger generation is as prevalent as a handshake. in general, one of the largest risk demographic for STD are young people.

True, just my attitude is pretty simple. Do whatever you want in the SC, but do it like a man who knows what the fuck is going on vs a weiner or boy living in a fantasy world. You want a BJ, get a BJ, but don't for a second be a dumb fuck about it and think you are "special" and she is only doing favors for you or only with a few special guys. Just figure she has blown a few dozen flutes before you in that very same day.

LibertyPowers
05-19-2007, 03:10 PM
This makes me wonder exactly what desperation and what depths of it one would have to be at to not demand that all recipients of any commercial oral pleasure wear protection,if not for their own safety then for the safety of onesself??? I cannot imagine what would motivate somebody giving the BJ to not demand that protection be worn,I understand that the recipients might be selfish and in a momentary blindness of pleasurable anticipation,but what person would risk their long term health for what,if thought about rationally,is so little money??????

xdamage
05-20-2007, 06:50 AM
This makes me wonder exactly what desperation and what depths of it one would have to be at to not demand that all recipients of any commercial oral pleasure wear protection,if not for their own safety then for the safety of onesself??? I cannot imagine what would motivate somebody giving the BJ to not demand that protection be worn,I understand that the recipients might be selfish and in a momentary blindness of pleasurable anticipation,but what person would risk their long term health for what,if thought about rationally,is so little money??????

I don't know, but I don't see many answers forthcoming. Afterall, what sex workers is likely to admit to such thing, particularly on a stripper forum where they would just get reamed for admitting to doing extras? I can only guess some combination of depression, desperation, or ignorance. I suppose it's possible though that there are some people born that really just aren't wired in a way where their brains worry about STDs and just see it as money, and don't really care if they get an STD or pass one on. /shrug It seems that there may well be customers that have this blind spot as well. Sexual pleasure trumps the risk for them. I don't know.

mr_punk
05-20-2007, 12:39 PM
True, just my attitude is pretty simple. Do whatever you want in the SC, but do it like a man who knows what the fuck is going on vs a weiner or boy living in a fantasy world. You want a BJ, get a BJ, but don't for a second be a dumb fuck about it and think you are "special" and she is only doing favors for you or only with a few special guys. Just figure she has blown a few dozen flutes before you in that very same day.okay, but my point (the one you are agreeing with) is the rate of transmission isn't higher than the general population. in fact, sex workers actually use condoms with greater frequency than the civilians out there hooking up. so, if there's little difference between the sex worker and the sorority girl at the football team's kegger. it sounds like your attitude is more madonna-whore in nature. i'm just saying.

smartcookie
05-29-2007, 01:52 PM
okay, but my point (the one you are agreeing with) is the rate of transmission isn't higher than the general population. in fact, sex workers actually use condoms with greater frequency than the civilians out there hooking up. so, if there's little difference between the sex worker and the sorority girl at the football team's kegger. it sounds like your attitude is more madonna-whore in nature. i'm just saying.

Problem is, most strippers, especially the ones that put out (in this country, anyway) don't self-identify as sex workers and aren't particularly well-informed or proactive on the subject of STDs.

I'm surprised no one thought to mention gonorrhea's recent reclassification as a "superbug". Like staph, gonorrhea is increasingly antibiotic-resistant. And gonorrhea of the throat isn't a freakish occurence.

pinups4
05-29-2012, 03:05 PM
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