View Full Version : Scores & Penthouse clubs raided
Eric Stoner
01-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Sophiemarie- WHERE is this hard, clear line you think exists between escorts and dancers ? I am NOT saying that they're "all the same" or interchangeable. I don't mean to imply that in the slightest BUT in today's reality- some escorts strip; some dancers escort. And for a lot of reasons detailed here and elsewhere there has been an explosion of "extras" in NYC strip clubs over the last 2 or 3 years, at least ! What used to be rare or even non-existent has become more and more common.
As for Scores status, for right now they are open and in business. The future is cloudy and uncertain. Assuming they do not do their own investigation , the SLA will piggy-back on the NYPD's. Without convictions they would have trouble making charges stick BUT the SLA is a NYS Administrative body entitled to hold its own administrative hearings. The burden of proof is lower- it's NOT "beyond a reasonable doubt " and certain hearsay evidence might be admissible. Additionally, I THINK ( not 100% sure) that there is a category of charges along the lines of " permitting immoral conduct " which could, if proven , provide grounds for suspension or revocation of Scores Liquor License.
It should be kept in mind that DESPITE all the foregoing and what's been reported, in order to suspend or revoke the SLA has to show that the owner or holder of the License was involved ( just knowing and doing nothing MIGHT be enough) with any illegal activity. In other words, that Scores was getting a piece of the illegal action and that is doubtful at present.
You NYC dancers tell me- how successful would Scores be as a "juice bar" i.e. w/o a Liquor License ? Wouldn't there be a huge drop-off in business ? That's why it's in their interest to get these charges dismissed, ACD'd or pled down to violations. It's why the dancers currently jammed up have a weapon to use against Scores= "you help me out with a top-notch lawyer and I'll keep my mouth shut . Otherwise I might have to roll over."
precise212
01-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Sultry T,
Ok, got your point, bit don't you think that "Quardian Angel" thing kind of OVER? I am talking about Sara' husband. I've heard, the ex one, actually. Plus in term of money for protection, her earninig have dropped significantly from 3-5 years ago...,partually to her greedy techniques even with her own customers, who stoppped using her services with HQ. The only thing she can possibly survive is the drug sales she widely practices...
Tinkle
01-29-2007, 01:27 PM
Fuck!! This sucks!!!!!! I am sick of the nasty shit in the rooms as well. It just demeans us and make us all look like cum-guzzlers. I just had this conversation with a couple of girls I work with and we are tired of all this shit. Now we are being raided! Great. Something has to change and fast!
Precise and SultryTemptress. I know Sara Conner from back in the day and she is quite a piece of work i have to say. Quite the enterprising madam she is. She always seem to come away squeaky clean and unscathed. But her girls - we all know what they are doing, staight from the horse's mouths BTW- are making BANK! But I cant get down with that program. yuck.
Good Luck with all of this my NYC dancers. We need it.
NYChaos--what do you think of this??
Ebony
01-29-2007, 05:48 PM
I feel for all you NYC girls. A friend of mine from when I danced in NJ was thinking of jumping ship. Even though she does great in NJ she believe if she works in NYC she will be making 2K a night. What a myth! Anyway I guess I have to foward her these articles and tell her to stay put!
nychaos99
01-30-2007, 08:55 AM
Hey Chaos, here's a question for you. Did the task force 'investigators' ask to see dancer job applications / citizenship ID's / work schedules etc. ? You don't send 17 'agents' into one business just to make prostitution busts - and vice cops don't have any reason to ask to see business records. I smell the NYC Income Tax Dep't using the prostitution sting as a probable cause excuse to gain access to club business records so that the REAL investigation can shift into high gear !!! After all, it's no secret that billions of dollars in bonuses were just paid out to Manhattan stockbrokers, bankers etc. and that a fair amount of that money wound up being spent in upscale Manhattan strip clubs !
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Hi Melonie,
Yes, they did request certain records. They specifically asked to see each and every girl's photo identification. It is against the law to work in a public assembly place and not have identification. So,they were checking each girl, but we also keep record of everyone too- but this information isn't stored in this building, but in another office, where the payroll is done. The 'task force' went so far as to tell us to make copies of everyone's ids and keep them in the club, so if this 'happens again;) ' and an entertainer doesn't have her id, then we have a record on hand.
And no, they were not here solely to bust us for prositution. They were asking for health code forms/certificates and checking for violations. They were checking for fire code violations, you know, all that sort of paperwork and permits...
How annoying!
nychaos99
01-30-2007, 09:08 AM
Not to stir anything up here about the club...but you say they did record and it was police in that vehicle. Okayyyyy...either way, don't you think it's BAD practice to just open the door of a vehicle without permission? Dark windows...and police would have had the doors LOCKED.
I heard a different story. The door of a police vehicle did not open..one was not to even be seen....
Really....lucky if this did happen that the person who opened the door on a raid check would not be shot...and it would have been perfectly legal. These days you just do not open others car doors....that is asking for trouble.
Again i just heard different. No door was opened to see police tapping a cop inside with a stripper.
Could be wrong...it's neither here nor there. But stop the club from walking up to vehicles and just opening doors. I bet if this happened, those doors are locked...or they seen that person coming../:O
Hi Pamela-
I never said it was a police vehicle or that there were police in the vehicle. It was just a car, and a guy inside with a recording device.
And in NYC, cars pull up to buildings all the time, and a doorman automatically comes and opens your door. It happens at my residence, my mother's residence, my sister's, etc, too many clubs to mention, and our place, PEC. So it is definitely not unusual for a car to pull up and a doorman kindly opens the door for the person getting out. When have you ever seen someone roll down their window and say, "hey, could you open my door?" ;)
Secondly, I never said they were recording a cop with a stripper. I'm assuming that is what went on, but I'm not making any claims. We never found out what the recording was for or about.
And, you are absolutely right: why in the world would the car not be locked? It makes no sense, but it would appear that the guys got out of the car to do their thing, and forgot to relock it. Shit, maybe a guy ran out to get a donut or something....:P
Eric Stoner
01-30-2007, 09:29 AM
NYC Chaos- What you have described and detailed was an "INSPECTION". Of course they were "annoying". That was obviously the point of their "visit". It seems to have been MORE a part of the general NYPD club crackdown than specifically related to Scores- admittedly conjecture on my part. It would not be a bad idea to tell the known "extras girls" to cool it. ( Fellow dancers make better enforcers than mgt. sometimes.) At least have them confine themselves to known and trusted "regulars" or best of all- take it OTC where it really belongs !
nychaos99
01-30-2007, 09:56 AM
Fuck!! This sucks!!!!!! I am sick of the nasty shit in the rooms as well. It just demeans us and make us all look like cum-guzzlers. I just had this conversation with a couple of girls I work with and we are tired of all this shit. Now we are being raided! Great. Something has to change and fast!
Precise and SultryTemptress. I know Sara Conner from back in the day and she is quite a piece of work i have to say. Quite the enterprising madam she is. She always seem to come away squeaky clean and unscathed. But her girls - we all know what they are doing, staight from the horse's mouths BTW- are making BANK! But I cant get down with that program. yuck.
Good Luck with all of this my NYC dancers. We need it.
NYChaos--what do you think of this??
What do I think about the raids? WHat do I think about the narly private room scenerios?
Well, I don't know what to say about the raids. We have a lot of guys who work on the inside, you know, like policemen that are friends of friends, lawyers, etc. Normally, SOMEONE would have warned us about the raid or at least tipped us off. It's funny, because the day after it happened Harvey (from Scores) actually called MY boss--- and was like, "hey, did you guys get raided last night?" I don't know the scoop on why he called or what the exact conversation was, but that's how we found out about the arrests and exact details on what went down that night.
What do I think about the private room stuff? I think it's crap. I think the extra girls are ruining our (all clubs) business and giving NYC strip clubs a worse name than they have.
When I first started working here, and I was here the day we opened, there was NOTHING going on in the rooms. NOTHING. And if you did something and got caught, the customer and/or the entertainer was told to leave.
Ahhh... the good ole days. When I could walk around high and proud.
Then, slowly but surely, a few bits of nonsense would slip through the cracks. You know why? Because the guys paid BIG TIME to do it. It's difficult for the guys in this club to turn away all that money and see a customer leave. Or, what happens, is that a 'top entertainer' gets caught, and they don't want to fire her because she has SOOOO many customers. I mean, there are a million scenerios that lead a club into being dirty. I will say this, it didn't happen over night, it was a slow process.
So, what do I think...hmmm... I HATE IT. I hate the fact I have to hear about it. I hate going into the private rooms during the day and feeling diseased from the grossness, I hate looking into the eyes of customers and seeing dirtbags, I hate the owners turning a blind eye (if not paritcipating), I hate that it brings in negativity and bad business, I hate that 'good girls' are affected... I could go on and on.
Maybe the raids are a good thing. Maybe things will change.
And just for the record, not EVERY girl here is bad, and there are more good entertainers in this place, thank goodness. I'm just venting over here. If it were that horrible, I don't think I could work here. Thankfully, there are a lot of great customers and entertainers that make this place worth while.:)
precise212
01-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Sultry T,
Of couse , i meant " Hell Angels", not "Guardian Angels..."
sophiemarie
01-30-2007, 03:33 PM
Scores sucks and is PLAYED out ike last nites trash.
Donna Karan and her daughters were seen ther Staurday nite .
So celeberties are still supporting them, even the fashion industry is.
WOW
SultryTemptress
01-30-2007, 09:50 PM
Scores sucks and is PLAYED out ike last nites trash.
Donna Karan and her daughters were seen ther Staurday nite .
So celeberties are still supporting them, even the fashion industry is.
WOW
This is what I mean about business can go either way 50/50 $$$$$.
I happen to know first hand that Donna Karan is gay however she is the nicest sweetish most respected designer I've ever worked for. I've modeled for a number of top designers here in NY & Paris and Donna Karan was the only designer that came to each model and shake everyone's hand and said thank you for being here, some designers treat you like a hanger. I'm guessing that she tip the dancers at Scores very well and all this after the scandal... Was she at the eastside or westside club? Guys will always go where there's beautiful girls they think they can have and I was right when I guessed it was a disgruntled customer. }:D
sophiemarie
01-31-2007, 10:34 AM
What is PEC like? I think I might audition there. At least you don't have to worry about hookers like you do at Scores.
This wa in the post about DKNY. I have no idea which Scores they were at.
Melonie
01-31-2007, 01:13 PM
They specifically asked to see each and every girl's photo identification. It is against the law to work in a public assembly place and not have identification. So,they were checking each girl, but we also keep record of everyone too- but this information isn't stored in this building, but in another office, where the payroll is done.
Well, I don't know what to say about the raids. We have a lot of guys who work on the inside, you know, like policemen that are friends of friends, lawyers, etc. Normally, SOMEONE would have warned us about the raid or at least tipped us off. It's funny, because the day after it happened Harvey (from Scores) actually called MY boss--- and was like, "hey, did you guys get raided last night?" I don't know the scoop on why he called or what the exact conversation was, but that's how we found out about the arrests and exact details on what went down that night.
^^^ This little fact (which I assumed from the beginning - 99% of the time there is a 'direct line' between local cops and local clubowners as long as their 'contributions are up to date LOL), combined with the unmarked cars and 'plainclothes' investigators, the recording equipment, the 'investigators' specifically asking for the personal info on record for every Scores dancer even though it was kept off premesis etc. now make me much more certain about my original conjecture ... that the authority behind this 'inspection' or raid or whatever you want to call it comes from a much higher level than local cops and city hall.
PS I don't want to unduly alarm any Scores dancers, but it might be a very wise idea to 'clean house' and make sure that your taxes are up to date !
PPS I'll also remind everyone that, where proof of criminal activity re the NY Liquor License is concerned, the Scores owners are already in court over a 'misappropriation of funds' charge (putting it tactfully)
sophiemarie
01-31-2007, 06:39 PM
There needs to be a UNION for strippers in NYC period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have to stop this bullshit from the clubs. Gray Davis made some great regulations in San fran. The same ones need to be made here.
I am tired of this BS in NYC.
Emily
01-31-2007, 06:44 PM
haha, you go, Norma Rae.
Just curious, how do you feel about splitting your earnings with other dancers?
sophiemarie
02-01-2007, 09:36 AM
Split my money with the girls? How about splitting your money with the club??And that is what happens here in the rotted apple.
This is what needs to be stopped.
Emily
02-01-2007, 10:03 AM
I meant all girls pool their money together, and then the club still keeps what it wants, and then you divide up the rest equally. Is that okay with you? Because if you were an employee, the club would have the right to keep all your dance money.
What about working when they want you to work and for 40 hours per week?
You gotta see the forrest from the trees. The union doesn't do squat except make sure the fat, ugly, dumb, old strippers earn as much as you.
sophiemarie
02-01-2007, 10:22 AM
NYC needs regualtions on house fees and fees to the house mom, make-up artist-hairdresser, the DJ (Hustler/ Ricks) and even floor host, valet parking and whoever else you have tp tip out.
he tip out fees are crazy. At Scores West, if you don't use the make up artist you still have to pay her 5 but if you don't pay her by 12 am then it's 10...... What is that? You end up having to give her a funny money peice. (Because you got no cash)
A $180 house fee at Scores East is highway robbery.
Dancers are taken advantage of point blank......
Emily
02-01-2007, 10:29 AM
Dancers are taken advantage of point blank......not disagreeing, but a union is not the answer
nychaos99
02-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Ahh.. but you all are getting way off subject...
There are plenty of House Fees threads.......
Emily
02-01-2007, 10:32 AM
Ahh.. but you all are getting way off subject...
There are plenty of House Fees threads.......
that's what sophie does! Yesterday she posted about how her fat Egyptian cat prefers Fiji over Poland Springs in a thread about the South Beach diet.
sophiemarie
02-01-2007, 10:35 AM
I am just talking about a prognosis for the problem....
How can this be solved so everyone is happy? No one gets arrested--no criminal charges--just people making money as entertainers---the way it was and is suppose to be.
Some sicko money hungry person changed the entire game and the fun of it all.
And ruined it for everyone.
This isn't off the subject its people concerned who make their money off of it. It's survival baby.
Melonie
02-01-2007, 10:43 AM
^^^ in NYC, it can't ! For starters, if laws were actually enforced 1/3rd of the clubs would be forced to close over zoning issues. Next, if laws were actually enforced customer spending would drop significantly with dancer earnings dropping even more significantly (since the club would still charge the same stage fees !).
Asking that some laws be enforced but that other laws still be ignored is NOT going to happen. You can have very lax law enforcement (as it is now, on all counts), or strict law enforcement, but not a selective list where ignoring some laws allows you to earn more money but enforcing other laws allow you to 'save' money.
Eric Stoner
02-01-2007, 10:53 AM
Sophie- The power to REGULATE becomes the power to DESTROY ! Be VERY careful what you wish for in this area. You don't seriously want another government agency getting involved with the skin biz. Just in NYC you already have: The NYPD;The IRS; Immigration ( whatever it's "new" name is ); The FBI plus The SLA;Consumer Affairs; Building Dept. State AND City Health Depts. and I'm probably leaving out one or two.
Unionize ? It almost always ends up rewarding the mediocre and lazy at the expense of the hard workers. You really want to lose your independence ? or Have to share your hard earned money ?
You want to "clean up " your club ?- Good Luck ! There's too much money in extras.The lure of possible extras draws custies making money for the club on door fees and VIP's. The bouncer/hosts LOVE the tips. The extras girls LOVE the money. I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle. At best, you & your fellow "clean" girls MIGHT be able to persuade the known extra providers to take it OTC.
sophiemarie
02-01-2007, 10:53 AM
Melonie, then how did former Governer of Cali get the bill signed for the San Fran and Bay dancers?
It can happen it's just how.
That is the question..
Any input on that?
Eric Stoner
02-01-2007, 10:55 AM
Sorry. I was drafting while Melonie was posting. What SHE said !
sophiemarie
02-01-2007, 10:57 AM
I beg to differ for various reasons.
Eric Stoner
02-01-2007, 11:31 AM
What are your "reasons" ? and please try to keep it realistic.
nychaos99
02-02-2007, 09:54 AM
Unionize ? It almost always ends up rewarding the mediocre and lazy at the expense of the hard workers. You really want to lose your independence ? or Have to share your hard earned money ?
You want to "clean up " your club ?- Good Luck ! There's too much money in extras.The lure of possible extras draws custies making money for the club on door fees and VIP's. The bouncer/hosts LOVE the tips. The extras girls LOVE the money. I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle. At best, you & your fellow "clean" girls MIGHT be able to persuade the known extra providers to take it OTC.
You said it!
(crap, now I am going off-subject myself...)
A union would only create problems, like the fact that an entertainer would HAVE to work 40 hours (max) a week, but it is up to the club to decide how few hours you can work, and if any club has half a brain they'll make you work all 40 hours. Next- they tell you WHEN you work. And if you don't show, they can fire you, put you on probation, etc.
NEXT (and what's WORSE)- is that technically all of your earning's are the clubs'. All the entertainers have to work and put their money together at the end of the night. The club takes their share (whatever they want) and the rest is SPLIT between everyone.
Can you imagine? You work your ass off and make a ton of money, some lazy fat bitch doesn't do squat, and you have to share your earnings with her! YIKES!
Tinkle
02-02-2007, 11:18 AM
Yeah, Hell no--whose bright idea was it to start a union anyway??? My $$ is my$$ not the clubs. I like my freedom. And Ms." Becky Sue" will NOT be getting a cut of my hard work!!!!
Man are we way off topic. hmmmm.....
sophiemarie
02-02-2007, 11:26 AM
A union does not have to work in this manner. the union protects the dancers not the rip -off scam artists owners/managers.
I have enough political coonects in NYC and lawyer friends. If there is a will there is a way. This "hookin" BS needs to stop. Those girls need to take that to 42nd St or to the agency.
Why such dirty girls? American girls are not good enough I see, we actually have some pride........................
Eric Stoner
02-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Sophie- Most of us agree with you that "extras" can mean long term pain for short term gain. That they don't belong in the clubs. How is a union going to help ? Extras will be a violation of "union work rules" ? All I can say is to suggest that you keep on "working clean". I know it seems unfair. I know that extras have the potential to ruin it for everybody. The reality is that there is too much money involved.
Here's a Q I don't know the answer to because I've been much to busy to inquire or check it out myself ( working on selling my company so I can enjoy semi-retirement).Anyway, here goes- what effect has the Scores bust had on the other clubs ? Any drop-off in business ? Have the extras girls cleaned up their act ? At least for now ? I have HEARD that Scores West saw a major drop-off in business but don't know for myself. The only Scores girls I know work the East Side. I'd be curious to know.
sophiemarie
02-02-2007, 03:22 PM
How can we get these immigrant girls to do what's right when they don't know what's right from wrong.
The immigrant girls are screwing it up for everyone. And
Eric Stoner
02-02-2007, 03:32 PM
Sophie- Have you tried talking to them? If they're Brazilian or from the D.R. they're coming from countries where prostitution is LEGAL. Where extras are expected of every stripper. Compared to most countries with strip clubs the U.S. is totally provincial.
sophiemarie
02-02-2007, 04:19 PM
That is why there needs to be some sort of regulations because these girls can hardly speak English. It is sad and something needs to be done.
short skirts
02-02-2007, 04:57 PM
A few years back in Detroit there was a group of Russians working the clubs. The day after authorities came in to check on the situation the club was burned to the ground. The girls worked 7 days/week every shift. It i rumored that they had pimps who made them work that much and took all their money. I worked with a couple
these girls most likely don't have working visas so somebody should check into it
Eric Stoner
02-02-2007, 05:15 PM
The Citizenship and Immigration Service ( the old INS ) is supposed to check into it. What would you like them to do ? Raid your club ? The owners are supposed to make sure dancers have Green cards, work permits or are citizens. Uh huh. How many really do ? I know many can't speak English well- " you vant lip-dans ". How many times have I heard that or some variant. I know many Russian & Ukrainian girls are exploited by some really disgusting pimps. What would you like done about it ? Are YOU going to be the one to drop a dime ? Things are what they are. Get used to it and learn to live with it OR try to do something about it. If I knew HOW to change things; I'd tell you.
sophiemarie
02-02-2007, 05:24 PM
More than %50 of the dancers in NYC are not US born citizens and most do not have their green card. Alot of girls come and visit NY from London or what not and dance while they are visiting.
INS really needs to investiagate this. These ladies are not paying taxes and taking jobs away from American Born dancers who are suppoerting a family and school or both. It is just not fair.
There is a club in Queens that won't hire you unless you are an Eastern Euro immigrant.
Chrissy68
02-02-2007, 05:32 PM
That is why there needs to be some sort of regulations because these girls can hardly speak English. It is sad and something needs to be done.
Alot of girls come and visit NY from London or what not and dance while they are visiting.
they come from London? no wonder they can't speak English well! ::)
precise212
02-02-2007, 05:42 PM
Wow,Sophie, slow down about taxes, honey!
You are CONSTANTLY attacking immigrants on a various issues,but such an outregeous statement as them "not paying taxes"....! Somebody needs a sensitivity training...You know, magically some Columbians, Brazilians and Russians are actuallly US citizens and Green Card holders with valid SSN who are loyal taxpayers just like you.
You know, Nazi scapegoated Jews too and we all know what happened. You scapegoating foreigners.
You are WAY OFF the subject in this thread ...
sophiemarie
02-02-2007, 05:57 PM
It's not off the subject it is how this town seems to be ran, by people who don't care. If you ndon't live or have never lived or are even from NY then your opinion is null.
ExoticEngineer
02-02-2007, 06:07 PM
Sophie, don't you think you're being a wee bit vile over there? "your opinion is null".
precise212
02-02-2007, 06:10 PM
Ha-ha!
I happen to live in NY for a long time and everything is fine with my American values. You are in Brooklyn,on other hand, and cand stand your Russian neighbors... Ha-ha-ha! And it takes you an hour to get to the city...Somebody's a bigger null .
Melonie
02-02-2007, 06:18 PM
Melonie, then how did former Governer of Cali get the bill signed for the San Fran and Bay dancers? It can happen it's just how. That is the question.. Any input on that?
This didn't actually start with legislation, it started with class action lawsuits brought against clubowners by dancers (and their pro-bono ACLUesque attorneys). Then the judges began 'interpreting' how certain provisions of existing Cal state labor laws should be applied to Cal dancers i.e. the infamous 'California Employee Dancer' law. If the Cal Franchise Tax Board actually starts enforcing the not so attractive aspects that go along with dancers being considered employees, the more attractive aspects will be rapidly overshadowed.
On the subject of illegal eastern european dancers in the NYC area offering super high mileage, this isn't a matter of conjecture. Several guys have already been convicted of setting up bogus agency businesses in NYC in order to obtain work visas for eastern european girls, then forcing them to work as quasi-hookers in NYC area strip clubs once they got here and discovered that the bogus agency didn't actually have any work for them, then taking most of their strip club money, plus threatening them with deportation if they complained.
Eric Stoner
02-02-2007, 06:27 PM
Ladies Please ! Venting is O.K. I understand the frustration out there in stripperland BUT let's NOT get personal. No need for it.
Precise- I think Sophie's problem is with ILLEGAL immigrants; not immigrants in general.
Sophie- This thread is supposed to be about the recent Scores & PEC interactions with the NYPD. I agree ILLEGAL immigrants can be a problem by crowding out legal residents but I have to tell you, at MOST clubs I know of the problem is not so much that "illegal" girls are working there; it's that they are often more "liberal"than the American girls. Was this a particular problem at Scores ?( Note how I'm subtly trying to bring this thread back on track ). Not that I know of. It's more of a problem at some lower echelon spots in Manhattan , in the outer boroughs and N.J.
Eric Stoner
02-02-2007, 06:31 PM
Melonie's referring to a well noted recent case of a Russian pimp farming his girls out to Jersey strip clubs including Delilah's Den. Horrible case of brutal exploitation.
I'm pretty sure it was a Federal RICO prosecution.
pinkcandyx
02-02-2007, 08:25 PM
I can't take it anymore!!! Spohia/Dasha whatever you want to call yourself now, get off your crack pipe and delusional chair. I'm sick of you talking shit about immigrants, especially knowing that you only date immigrant or ethnic men. And stop calling dancers whores, since you where caught giving Tommy a "free" bj at ScoresW, hoping you could be one of the bj girls, and they still fired you and don't want your face in there, ever. And when you worked at HQ you wish you could have been one of Sara's girls, and you weren't innocent there either before you got fired, I mean who gets fired from HQ? No club in Manhattan will ever hire you because you have no ass and a bad attiude. You've only been in Nyc for over a year and don't know the city that well or have connected friends. I know I'm no angel but I am well liked and took all my nauthinees OTC, I'm retired now from dancing and don't care what people think anymore. Sorry to burst your bubble....
Chrissy68
02-02-2007, 11:13 PM
*applause for pinkcandyx*
PorschaM
02-02-2007, 11:27 PM
.Anyway, here goes- what effect has the Scores bust had on the other clubs ? Any drop-off in business ? Have the extras girls cleaned up their act ? At least for now ? I have HEARD that Scores West saw a major drop-off in business but don't know for myself. The only Scores girls I know work the East Side. I'd be curious to know.
I would think there's been some drop. According to what I heard on Howard Stern the press was camped out and filming people going into the clubs. They said they didn't show faces, but still. How many custy's are going to risk being seen on the nightly news (or god forbid cable news) going to a strip club?
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